What will low income people do for healthcare if they lose their Obamacare?

[PoliticalChic]

If they're smart, they will doctor themselves. Almost always that is best anyway. Going to a money-grubbing quack doctor should be the last thing you do.

Most people on the ACA make 22000 to 100,000 grand a year, which is more than min wage. What should they do now?? Please tell me.

Even is one makes10 bucks an hour and works full time that is only 20,800, not enough to be on the ACA.

What is your solution??

In the states that have not expanded Medicaid, a family of 3 in texas needs to make less than 8700 a year for Medicaid.

What is your solution??

Give yourself that heart bypass, ok, give yourself that gall bladder surgery. Doctor yourself,

maybe the congressmen should dr. themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I was deeply grieved to read that.

Prayers for you and yours.

 

[TooTall]

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If your are at the point where you need subsidised health care then I have to ask how much are you spending to be on this site ? You have connected to the internet using some type of device, none of this is free.

If you are posting that to me I assure you that my intent was to inform those that may lose their Obamacare that free or low cost healthcare is readily available. I have insurance and can use the VA if necessary.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Let me ask liberals this. Nowhere, in any document, does it state you have a right to free healthcare.

So I'll ask you directly, what are YOU going to do about it? You can't afford it and don't live in 32 states that expanded Medicaid, how is that EVERYONE ELSES problem? I want a new car, but I can't afford it. Should I get the gov't to buy me one?

You don't have a right to free healthcare. You have a right to pay for it like everyone else. Quit blaming everyone else for your problems and get off your ass and work. Make money and buy insurance. If you can't afford it, I'm sorry. This socialist illegal system we have where people are forced to pay for something they dont want and dont need so others can get it for free is coming to an end. It should have never happened in the first place.

Health insurance is like anything else, you get it if you can afford it and good luck if you can't. But you have no right to my hard earned dollars because you can't/don't want/don't have a job.

Being pissed off you're losing healthcare you aren't even paying for and are getting for free by illegal means is like being mad at your husband because he stopped robbing banks to make money and so you can't buy stuff you want. It's the same thing.

 

[tigerred59]

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For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

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They'll do what they did prior to ACA, overwhelm emergency rooms and low cost clinics.

 

[NLT]

What will low income people do for healthcare if they lose their Obamacare?

The same shit they did before obamacare

 

[RodISHI]

If they're smart, they will doctor themselves. Almost always that is best anyway. Going to a money-grubbing quack doctor should be the last thing you do.

Most people on the ACA make 22000 to 100,000 grand a year, which is more than min wage. What should they do now?? Please tell me.

Even is one makes10 bucks an hour and works full time that is only 20,800, not enough to be on the ACA.

What is your solution??

In the states that have not expanded Medicaid, a family of 3 in texas needs to make less than 8700 a year for Medicaid.

What is your solution??

Give yourself that heart bypass, ok, give yourself that gall bladder surgery. Doctor yourself,

maybe the congressmen should dr. themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I was deeply grieved to read that.

Prayers for you and yours.

Thank you. Life was tough back then with worrying about the children and all. It was a learning experience and one more item in the survive the worldly world toolbox. I'll take the time to write it all down in a coherent fashion one day. As far as the chemical BS goes still working on mitigating the damage from it every day. We weren't sure I would survive it all for quite a few years. By having Internet I have been able to do a lot of study on things one can do. Lungs can even be regenerated with the right stuff. I got the Gall Stone deal through doing too much detox at once so another little experience to go by. Don't try to do too much at once I read the hazards cause and effect after the fact. Natural methods do work though. I also learned during all my study that three surgeries over the years could have been avoided. Boy did that piss me off when I found out that the studies were all out there when the docs talked me into having surgery.

 

[TooTall]

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"The 14194 clinics in this database offer medical services (some may also offer dental services) and are free, low-cost, low-cost with a sliding scale based on income, or offer some type of financial assistance. If you're under or uninsured, and looking for a nearby free clinic, sliding scale clinic, or low-cost clinic, where you and/or your family can go for lost cost medical care, NeedyMeds can help. Please note that the clinics listed are not necessarily free.

For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics | NeedyMeds

They'll do what they did prior to ACA, overwhelm emergency rooms and low cost clinics.

How about what they did AFTER Obamacare?

"Three-quarters of emergency physicians say they've seen ER patient visits surge since Obamacare took effect — just the opposite of what many Americans expected would happen.

A poll released today by the American College of Emergency Physicians shows that 28% of 2,099 doctors surveyed nationally saw large increases in volume, while 47% saw slight increases. By contrast, fewer than half of doctors reported any increases last year in the early days of the Affordable Care Act."

Contrary to goals, ER visits rise under Obamacare

 

[PoliticalChic]

If they're smart, they will doctor themselves. Almost always that is best anyway. Going to a money-grubbing quack doctor should be the last thing you do.

Most people on the ACA make 22000 to 100,000 grand a year, which is more than min wage. What should they do now?? Please tell me.

Even is one makes10 bucks an hour and works full time that is only 20,800, not enough to be on the ACA.

What is your solution??

In the states that have not expanded Medicaid, a family of 3 in texas needs to make less than 8700 a year for Medicaid.

What is your solution??

Give yourself that heart bypass, ok, give yourself that gall bladder surgery. Doctor yourself,

maybe the congressmen should dr. themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I was deeply grieved to read that.

Prayers for you and yours.

Thank you. Life was tough back then with worrying about the children and all. It was a learning experience and one more item in the survive the worldly world toolbox. I'll take the time to write it all down in a coherent fashion one day. As far as the chemical BS goes still working on mitigating the damage from it every day. We weren't sure I would survive it all for quite a few years. By having Internet I have been able to do a lot of study on things one can do. Lungs can even be regenerated with the right stuff. I got the Gall Stone deal through doing too much detox at once so another little experience to go by. Don't try to do too much at once I read the hazards cause and effect after the fact. Natural methods do work though. I also learned during all my study that three surgeries over the years could have been avoided. Boy did that piss me off when I found out that the studies were all out there when the docs talked me into having surgery.

God Bless.

 

[Penelope]

If they're smart, they will doctor themselves. Almost always that is best anyway. Going to a money-grubbing quack doctor should be the last thing you do.

Most people on the ACA make 22000 to 100,000 grand a year, which is more than min wage. What should they do now?? Please tell me.

Even is one makes10 bucks an hour and works full time that is only 20,800, not enough to be on the ACA.

What is your solution??

In the states that have not expanded Medicaid, a family of 3 in texas needs to make less than 8700 a year for Medicaid.

What is your solution??

Give yourself that heart bypass, ok, give yourself that gall bladder surgery. Doctor yourself,

maybe the congressmen should dr. themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I don't have gallbladder problems or cardiac, I was merely using them as examples. I have insurance, but its people like you who wont and hospitals are not doctors offices, its for people like you who become deathly sick and need to be admitted.

Do you have Medicaid. With that income you should. I do not trust leaving it in insurance companies hands, they are out to make money.

You are the reason we need healthcare for all, so you do not get so deathly ill. I also get so upset to hear that company got out of paying your medical bills and ongoing medical bills.

 

[RodISHI]

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"The 14194 clinics in this database offer medical services (some may also offer dental services) and are free, low-cost, low-cost with a sliding scale based on income, or offer some type of financial assistance. If you're under or uninsured, and looking for a nearby free clinic, sliding scale clinic, or low-cost clinic, where you and/or your family can go for lost cost medical care, NeedyMeds can help. Please note that the clinics listed are not necessarily free.

For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics | NeedyMeds

They'll do what they did prior to ACA, overwhelm emergency rooms and low cost clinics.

How about what they did AFTER Obamacare?

"Three-quarters of emergency physicians say they've seen ER patient visits surge since Obamacare took effect — just the opposite of what many Americans expected would happen.

A poll released today by the American College of Emergency Physicians shows that 28% of 2,099 doctors surveyed nationally saw large increases in volume, while 47% saw slight increases. By contrast, fewer than half of doctors reported any increases last year in the early days of the Affordable Care Act."

Contrary to goals, ER visits rise under Obamacare

A lot of the cities have clinics along with their hospitals for those who believe a little thing is an emergency. Another thing we need is a means for affordable items like the emergency epinephrine shots. I would have just gave myself a shot if one was available at ten or twelve dollars. I am perfectly capable of filling a syringe and giving self a shot if needed verses not having anything and having no choice but to go to the emergency room at a cost of $600.00 which we still can't pay.

 

[RodISHI]

If they're smart, they will doctor themselves. Almost always that is best anyway. Going to a money-grubbing quack doctor should be the last thing you do.

Most people on the ACA make 22000 to 100,000 grand a year, which is more than min wage. What should they do now?? Please tell me.

Even is one makes10 bucks an hour and works full time that is only 20,800, not enough to be on the ACA.

What is your solution??

In the states that have not expanded Medicaid, a family of 3 in texas needs to make less than 8700 a year for Medicaid.

What is your solution??

Give yourself that heart bypass, ok, give yourself that gall bladder surgery. Doctor yourself,

maybe the congressmen should dr. themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I was deeply grieved to read that.

Prayers for you and yours.

Thank you. Life was tough back then with worrying about the children and all. It was a learning experience and one more item in the survive the worldly world toolbox. I'll take the time to write it all down in a coherent fashion one day. As far as the chemical BS goes still working on mitigating the damage from it every day. We weren't sure I would survive it all for quite a few years. By having Internet I have been able to do a lot of study on things one can do. Lungs can even be regenerated with the right stuff. I got the Gall Stone deal through doing too much detox at once so another little experience to go by. Don't try to do too much at once I read the hazards cause and effect after the fact. Natural methods do work though. I also learned during all my study that three surgeries over the years could have been avoided. Boy did that piss me off when I found out that the studies were all out there when the docs talked me into having surgery.

God Bless.

Truly more blessed than most would think despite whatever bad goes down or has gone down through the years. Thank you PC!

 

[Penelope]

If they're smart, they will doctor themselves. Almost always that is best anyway. Going to a money-grubbing quack doctor should be the last thing you do.

Most people on the ACA make 22000 to 100,000 grand a year, which is more than min wage. What should they do now?? Please tell me.

Even is one makes10 bucks an hour and works full time that is only 20,800, not enough to be on the ACA.

What is your solution??

In the states that have not expanded Medicaid, a family of 3 in texas needs to make less than 8700 a year for Medicaid.

What is your solution??

Give yourself that heart bypass, ok, give yourself that gall bladder surgery. Doctor yourself,

maybe the congressmen should dr. themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I was deeply grieved to read that.

Prayers for you and yours.

Thank you. Life was tough back then with worrying about the children and all. It was a learning experience and one more item in the survive the worldly world toolbox. I'll take the time to write it all down in a coherent fashion one day. As far as the chemical BS goes still working on mitigating the damage from it every day. We weren't sure I would survive it all for quite a few years. By having Internet I have been able to do a lot of study on things one can do. Lungs can even be regenerated with the right stuff. I got the Gall Stone deal through doing too much detox at once so another little experience to go by. Don't try to do too much at once I read the hazards cause and effect after the fact. Natural methods do work though. I also learned during all my study that three surgeries over the years could have been avoided. Boy did that piss me off when I found out that the studies were all out there when the docs talked me into having surgery.

God Bless.

That is what Republicans say. May God Bless you. Your little God Bless means absolutely nothing, or I'll pray for you, what he needs is health insurance so he can have a Family Dr and some specialists following him, not Bless you.

 

[TooTall]

If they're smart, they will doctor themselves. Almost always that is best anyway. Going to a money-grubbing quack doctor should be the last thing you do.

Most people on the ACA make 22000 to 100,000 grand a year, which is more than min wage. What should they do now?? Please tell me.

Even is one makes10 bucks an hour and works full time that is only 20,800, not enough to be on the ACA.

What is your solution??

In the states that have not expanded Medicaid, a family of 3 in texas needs to make less than 8700 a year for Medicaid.

What is your solution??

Give yourself that heart bypass, ok, give yourself that gall bladder surgery. Doctor yourself,

maybe the congressmen should dr. themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I was deeply grieved to read that.

Prayers for you and yours.

Thank you. Life was tough back then with worrying about the children and all. It was a learning experience and one more item in the survive the worldly world toolbox. I'll take the time to write it all down in a coherent fashion one day. As far as the chemical BS goes still working on mitigating the damage from it every day. We weren't sure I would survive it all for quite a few years. By having Internet I have been able to do a lot of study on things one can do. Lungs can even be regenerated with the right stuff. I got the Gall Stone deal through doing too much detox at once so another little experience to go by. Don't try to do too much at once I read the hazards cause and effect after the fact. Natural methods do work though. I also learned during all my study that three surgeries over the years could have been avoided. Boy did that piss me off when I found out that the studies were all out there when the docs talked me into having surgery.

I was sorry to read about your health problems but your arm patch suggests you are a veteran. Why don't you go to the VA for treatment? In spite of some of the horror stories I have read about some of the VA's, I can't say enough good things about the Atlanta VA and the Austell VA clinic. They have been really good to me.

 

[Penelope]

The poor had medicaid before ocare. They had medicaid during ocare. They will have medicaid after ocare.

Expanded Medicaid is for the working poor, those who work for min wage, 7.25 an hour, one would need to work full time at 11 bucks an hour to even get on the ACA.

 

[Penelope]

If they're smart, they will doctor themselves. Almost always that is best anyway. Going to a money-grubbing quack doctor should be the last thing you do.

Most people on the ACA make 22000 to 100,000 grand a year, which is more than min wage. What should they do now?? Please tell me.

Even is one makes10 bucks an hour and works full time that is only 20,800, not enough to be on the ACA.

What is your solution??

In the states that have not expanded Medicaid, a family of 3 in texas needs to make less than 8700 a year for Medicaid.

What is your solution??

Give yourself that heart bypass, ok, give yourself that gall bladder surgery. Doctor yourself,

maybe the congressmen should dr. themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I was deeply grieved to read that.

Prayers for you and yours.

Thank you. Life was tough back then with worrying about the children and all. It was a learning experience and one more item in the survive the worldly world toolbox. I'll take the time to write it all down in a coherent fashion one day. As far as the chemical BS goes still working on mitigating the damage from it every day. We weren't sure I would survive it all for quite a few years. By having Internet I have been able to do a lot of study on things one can do. Lungs can even be regenerated with the right stuff. I got the Gall Stone deal through doing too much detox at once so another little experience to go by. Don't try to do too much at once I read the hazards cause and effect after the fact. Natural methods do work though. I also learned during all my study that three surgeries over the years could have been avoided. Boy did that piss me off when I found out that the studies were all out there when the docs talked me into having surgery.

How do you regenerate lungs. I am aware that the liver can regenerate but lungs? I know there are meds to help breathing but regenerate lung tissue?

 

[RodISHI]

Most people on the ACA make 22000 to 100,000 grand a year, which is more than min wage. What should they do now?? Please tell me.

Even is one makes10 bucks an hour and works full time that is only 20,800, not enough to be on the ACA.

What is your solution??

In the states that have not expanded Medicaid, a family of 3 in texas needs to make less than 8700 a year for Medicaid.

What is your solution??

Give yourself that heart bypass, ok, give yourself that gall bladder surgery. Doctor yourself,

maybe the congressmen should dr. themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I was deeply grieved to read that.

Prayers for you and yours.

Thank you. Life was tough back then with worrying about the children and all. It was a learning experience and one more item in the survive the worldly world toolbox. I'll take the time to write it all down in a coherent fashion one day. As far as the chemical BS goes still working on mitigating the damage from it every day. We weren't sure I would survive it all for quite a few years. By having Internet I have been able to do a lot of study on things one can do. Lungs can even be regenerated with the right stuff. I got the Gall Stone deal through doing too much detox at once so another little experience to go by. Don't try to do too much at once I read the hazards cause and effect after the fact. Natural methods do work though. I also learned during all my study that three surgeries over the years could have been avoided. Boy did that piss me off when I found out that the studies were all out there when the docs talked me into having surgery.

God Bless.

That is what Republicans say. May God Bless you. Your little God Bless means absolutely nothing, or I'll pray for you, what he needs is health insurance so he can have a Family Dr and some specialists following him, not Bless you.

You really have no clue what I need. Apparently you can't read or grasp the concept very well when it comes to cleaning up the corruption. Instead you want to add to it. At this stage in my life I would have never been in this predicament if corrupt insurance companies, lawyers, politicians and greed mongers would have been kept in check but they were not. I have made a small fortune over the years with my husband's help. Bureaucrats, lawyers, banksters, crooked insurance companies and crooked judges helped steal what we spent years paying for but that is a whole nuther aspect of why I even took a frigging two bit job in the first place. Hell I made more per hour when I worked than most lawyers before I was hurt. I took a crappy lil' job in an attempt again to overcome more fraudulent banksters here.

If they're smart, they will doctor themselves. Almost always that is best anyway. Going to a money-grubbing quack doctor should be the last thing you do.

Most people on the ACA make 22000 to 100,000 grand a year, which is more than min wage. What should they do now?? Please tell me.

Even is one makes10 bucks an hour and works full time that is only 20,800, not enough to be on the ACA.

What is your solution??

In the states that have not expanded Medicaid, a family of 3 in texas needs to make less than 8700 a year for Medicaid.

What is your solution??

Give yourself that heart bypass, ok, give yourself that gall bladder surgery. Doctor yourself,

maybe the congressmen should dr. themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I was deeply grieved to read that.

Prayers for you and yours.

Thank you. Life was tough back then with worrying about the children and all. It was a learning experience and one more item in the survive the worldly world toolbox. I'll take the time to write it all down in a coherent fashion one day. As far as the chemical BS goes still working on mitigating the damage from it every day. We weren't sure I would survive it all for quite a few years. By having Internet I have been able to do a lot of study on things one can do. Lungs can even be regenerated with the right stuff. I got the Gall Stone deal through doing too much detox at once so another little experience to go by. Don't try to do too much at once I read the hazards cause and effect after the fact. Natural methods do work though. I also learned during all my study that three surgeries over the years could have been avoided. Boy did that piss me off when I found out that the studies were all out there when the docs talked me into having surgery.

I was sorry to read about your health problems but your arm patch suggests you are a veteran. Why don't you go to the VA for treatment? In spite of some of the horror stories I have read about some of the VA's, I can't say enough good things about the Atlanta VA and the Austell VA clinic. They have been really good to me.

Its my hubby's patch and yes he can go to the VA. Its a ways from us but if he needs it there is help for him if we can get him there.

 

[Asclepias]

Unless I've missed something, we do not live in a socialist country. Nor have we amended our Constitution to permit Government (the taxpayers) to pay for healthcare for all.

Hence, we have the observable phenomena that :

People with money tend to eat better than people without money;

They tend to have nicer clothes;

They tend to live in safer, more posh places;

They tend to send their kids to better schools (all the way through college), whether public or private;

They get better healthcare.

To the extent that healthcare is a high priority, people who are "poor" have to seek out whatever resources are available and exploit them to the extent necessary.

But on the whole, people with resources will always get better healthcare than people without resources. AND THAT EVEN HAPPENS IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

So if you don't mind, stop telling me that I am financially responsible to see to it that every poor bastard in this country has "adequate" health care. If you think the Constitution needs changing, and if enough people agree with you to get it done, then I will happily pay my share. But until that happens STFU. Ain't my problem.

You must hate national parks and paved roads if you hate socialism.

 

[airplanemechanic]

WTF do paved roads have to do with socialism? LOL

 

[RodISHI]

If they're smart, they will doctor themselves. Almost always that is best anyway. Going to a money-grubbing quack doctor should be the last thing you do.

Most people on the ACA make 22000 to 100,000 grand a year, which is more than min wage. What should they do now?? Please tell me.

Even is one makes10 bucks an hour and works full time that is only 20,800, not enough to be on the ACA.

What is your solution??

In the states that have not expanded Medicaid, a family of 3 in texas needs to make less than 8700 a year for Medicaid.

What is your solution??

Give yourself that heart bypass, ok, give yourself that gall bladder surgery. Doctor yourself,

maybe the congressmen should dr. themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I was deeply grieved to read that.

Prayers for you and yours.

Thank you. Life was tough back then with worrying about the children and all. It was a learning experience and one more item in the survive the worldly world toolbox. I'll take the time to write it all down in a coherent fashion one day. As far as the chemical BS goes still working on mitigating the damage from it every day. We weren't sure I would survive it all for quite a few years. By having Internet I have been able to do a lot of study on things one can do. Lungs can even be regenerated with the right stuff. I got the Gall Stone deal through doing too much detox at once so another little experience to go by. Don't try to do too much at once I read the hazards cause and effect after the fact. Natural methods do work though. I also learned during all my study that three surgeries over the years could have been avoided. Boy did that piss me off when I found out that the studies were all out there when the docs talked me into having surgery.

How do you regenerate lungs. I am aware that the liver can regenerate but lungs? I know there are meds to help breathing but regenerate lung tissue?

Chlorophyll. I started last year with that among other herbs and oils. It was to the point of either try or die and I came across a comment from a woman who had tried it to overcome asthma. She said it took her two years. Couldn't muster enough for more than four months worth but it made a big difference for me. will try it for the full two years first chance I get. I quit waking up choking unable to get air and then puking my guts out at night (sometimes that went on in the day too but usually at night). Plus I felt good enough to take a walk out in our fields. I was going to see if I could dig some roots from another plant here that grows in the field and walked right over the top of a hornets nest with baggy shorts and a sleeveless top on and hair loosely tied up. It gained me at least forty stingers. I ran for the house and four months prior to that would have never been able to run that far.

 

[kwc57]

They will get sick, they will die, and the Alt Right will yell "yay".

I'm going to send them to alt-left Comrade Jake to fill their needs. Since he loves giving away his income in taxes anyway, he won't mind doing it at a personal level.