What will low income people do for healthcare if they lose their Obamacare?

[TooTall]

The poor will be relegated to free or sliding scale clinics where available. Emergency rooms instead of preventive care. Best advice would be to not get sick or if you do, die quickly, so you don't bankrupt your family.

You best advice is about as ignorant as it gets.

 

[airplanemechanic]

Yet you subsidize the congressmen's HI and all state employees and corporations. I call that socialism. You also pay for school vouchers whether you like it or not, prisons, etc. WE send 3.8 billion a year to Israel, which would cover the deficit for 10 years instead of taking away health insurance for everyone.

I could easily choose not to pay for those things. I don't subsidize anything. Paying for schools betters the community and the future of our nation. Paying for poor people's health care so they can continue to porch sit doesn't help anyone. I don't have to pay for schools if I don't want to. I don't have to pay for ANYTHING if I don't want to. Except that fucking Obamacare. That I HAVE TO PAY FOR, simply because I can fog a mirror.

Just like the car insurance analogy, I don't have to own a car so I don't have to have insurance. I don't have to pay for school or anything else, there are ways around all of it, except that fucking Obozocare.

 

[Weatherman2020]

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For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

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They will rely upon the charity of Democrats.
Ya, they will die.

 

[Penelope]

Yet you subsidize the congressmen's HI and all state employees and corporations. I call that socialism. You also pay for school vouchers whether you like it or not, prisons, etc. WE send 3.8 billion a year to Israel, which would cover the deficit for 10 years instead of taking away health insurance for everyone.

I could easily choose not to pay for those things. I don't subsidize anything. Paying for schools betters the community and the future of our nation. Paying for poor people's health care so they can continue to porch sit doesn't help anyone. I don't have to pay for schools if I don't want to. I don't have to pay for ANYTHING if I don't want to. Except that fucking Obamacare. That I HAVE TO PAY FOR, simply because I can fog a mirror.

Just like the car insurance analogy, I don't have to own a car so I don't have to have insurance. I don't have to pay for school or anything else, there are ways around all of it, except that fucking Obozocare.

So you don't pay taxes because if you do that is where the money goes. I never get a slip asking me where I'd like my tax dollars to go, do you?

 

[initforme]

they should get treated and pay what they can...I'm a nutshell though they are totally screwed. this nation is for the mega wealthy...they own it. the rest of us are here to fight their ears and die for them...no use fighting it as they will not permit it.

 

[basquebromance]

"Rip insurance away " = People choosing not to pay for it anymore.

 

[BoSoxGal]

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"The 14194 clinics in this database offer medical services (some may also offer dental services) and are free, low-cost, low-cost with a sliding scale based on income, or offer some type of financial assistance. If you're under or uninsured, and looking for a nearby free clinic, sliding scale clinic, or low-cost clinic, where you and/or your family can go for lost cost medical care, NeedyMeds can help. Please note that the clinics listed are not necessarily free.

For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

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Can we point out that every individual in America, whether legal or otherwise, has had healthcare- by federal law- since it was mandated by the most successful President in the last hundred years.

"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to individuals seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay."
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia

Totally limited care. Won't treat cancer or any other chronic illness.

 

[WillowTree]

So, when obamacare fails and it wii. What will the pooor people do?

 

[PoliticalChic]

Here is a suggestion to answer the question.

"The 14194 clinics in this database offer medical services (some may also offer dental services) and are free, low-cost, low-cost with a sliding scale based on income, or offer some type of financial assistance. If you're under or uninsured, and looking for a nearby free clinic, sliding scale clinic, or low-cost clinic, where you and/or your family can go for lost cost medical care, NeedyMeds can help. Please note that the clinics listed are not necessarily free.

For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics | NeedyMeds

Can we point out that every individual in America, whether legal or otherwise, has had healthcare- by federal law- since it was mandated by the most successful President in the last hundred years.

"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to individuals seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay."
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia

Totally limited care. Won't treat cancer or any other chronic illness.

1. To clear the air, let's point out that being a BoSox fan proves you're a dunce.

2. What's your point.....that government doesn't do enough for you???
How about you get out of Fenway Park and learn to take care of your own healthcare insurance?

3."Many people affected by cancer can’t afford to pay for important health care services. Fortunately, a variety of health care assistance programs are available to help those who have a financial need. Knowing about the most common types of health care assistance programs can help you get the best and most affordable health care available for your situation."

Ways to find health care assistance programs in your area:

• Contact a nearby nonprofit cancer organization or hospital and ask for a patient services representative.
• Search online using keywords and the name of your community. For example, search for "low-income health care, Austin, TX."
• Check listings in the government or business sections of your local telephone directory.
• Talk with a professional, such as a social worker or a representative from the Department of Health and Human Services in your area.
• Call the United Way 2-1-1 telephone helpline that is available in many areas.
• Ask family members and friends."
• Health Care Assistance for Uninsured

4. Stop putting you paw in your neighbor's pocket.

5. Go Yankees.

 

[RodISHI]

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I don't have gallbladder problems or cardiac, I was merely using them as examples. I have insurance, but its people like you who wont and hospitals are not doctors offices, its for people like you who become deathly sick and need to be admitted.

Do you have Medicaid. With that income you should. I do not trust leaving it in insurance companies hands, they are out to make money.

You are the reason we need healthcare for all, so you do not get so deathly ill. I also get so upset to hear that company got out of paying your medical bills and ongoing medical bills.

If doctors are not up on whats available they really become worthless. I would rather people like you put all that effort into cleaning up the corruption and keep the corrupt or idiots like the crooked doctors, lawyers and insurance companies on a string. With all of the medical information online now if people are taught to think verses be drones they can take better care of themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

I don't have gallbladder problems or cardiac, I was merely using them as examples. I have insurance, but its people like you who wont and hospitals are not doctors offices, its for people like you who become deathly sick and need to be admitted.

Do you have Medicaid. With that income you should. I do not trust leaving it in insurance companies hands, they are out to make money.

You are the reason we need healthcare for all, so you do not get so deathly ill. I also get so upset to hear that company got out of paying your medical bills and ongoing medical bills.

If doctors are not up on whats available they really become worthless. I would rather people like you put all that effort into cleaning up the corruption and keep the corrupt or idiots like the crooked doctors, lawyers and insurance companies on a string. With all of the medical information online now if people are taught to think verses be drones they can take better care of themselves.

I agree, people should educate themselves online or find a resource person. , many meds and procedures are not necessary. I don't trust insurance companies, not at all. They will charge for dye when no dye was used, and things like that. One also must insist that all labs and diagnostic tests be done to rule out any other causes of symptoms and they can find online, and always request a copy of the test results . With a good quality family dr and specialists if needed , one should very seldom need to be an inpatient in a hospital unless one needs a surgical procedure or intense IV therapy. Most things can be done out patient now.

When I first started my search after we got Internet back last year I met a doctor who is also a naturalist online. Turned out his whole family is mostly doctors or in the health care field. Rod's has had issues with his heart for years that no doctor has been able to explain. This new friend told me what to try so we did and I found the other things we needed. Rod's health started improving too. The VA doctor he last saw about ten years ago asked me, "What do you feed him?" I said "Food". He says' "No really what do you feed him he has the healthiest blood of any patient I have ever seen for his age." I said again, "Food". The guy smiled and looked at me so I told him, "Real food not garbage".

If the country will get back to the basics and quit modifying everything and trying to perfect humans and nature via made man manipulations everyone will be healthier for it.

I agree and sugar and HFCS is bad, bad. HFCS is metabolized different than regular sugar cane. Its in everything, its caused weight gain more than ordinary sugar, and they, many OB's say that one of the reasons for such big babies today, big does not always mean healthy. Everything we put in our mouth needs to be thought about, I'm not a fanatic, but sugar and HFCS is a no. Nixon started HFCS due to being cheaper and easier to grow than sugar cane.

They don't do you any extra good but when you add on everything else that they have put into the environment its like a disaster health bomb waiting to explode. BPA can liners and plastic that are hormone changers are causing more damage than was first (supposedly) considered. I'd have a baby girl grand if it weren't for a daughter-in-law having a screwed up uterus. That odd uterus shape she had goes right on DOW's lap as far as I am concerned. Chemicals are a scourge. Even the animals can't self medicate if a farmer has sprayed the plants that they would generally self medicate with.

 

[BoSoxGal]

They will get sick, they will die, and the Alt Right will yell "yay".

Pretty much the way it is with obamacare, $7500 deductible. Pretty much a death sentence for most.

And the Alt Right will be thrilled. Weren't you the one who was yelling Romney would win in a land slide? Now we are watching the GOP stumble and fumble the US straight into a single payer.

Yeap and the democrats own obamacare 100%. I say republicans should let it fail on its own, and finally show the uninformed voters what liberal policies actually accomplish.

The GOP will fail, of course, and move us ever closer to single payer.

From your keyboard to God's ears!

 

[Weatherman2020]

Win-win. Most low income voters vote Democrat.

 

[Rob37]

Maybe they will start taking better care of themselves. Poor people eat crap.

 

[basquebromance]

our president is an idiot!

 

[basquebromance]

The 24 million uninsured are mostly poor democrat immigrant families who should of never been let into the country.

 

[Weatherman2020]

If Obamacare is so great, why did Democrat politicians exempt themselves from it?

 

[airplanemechanic]

So you don't pay taxes because if you do that is where the money goes. I never get a slip asking me where I'd like my tax dollars to go, do you?

Any taxes I pay I pay voluntarily. Sales taxes, property taxes, anything like that. That's all voluntary. I have no control what the taxes are used for, but I have control over whether or not I pay them.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Unless I've missed something, we do not live in a socialist country. Nor have we amended our Constitution to permit Government (the taxpayers) to pay for healthcare for all.

Hence, we have the observable phenomena that :

People with money tend to eat better than people without money;

They tend to have nicer clothes;

They tend to live in safer, more posh places;

They tend to send their kids to better schools (all the way through college), whether public or private;

They get better healthcare.

To the extent that healthcare is a high priority, people who are "poor" have to seek out whatever resources are available and exploit them to the extent necessary.

But on the whole, people with resources will always get better healthcare than people without resources. AND THAT EVEN HAPPENS IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

So if you don't mind, stop telling me that I am financially responsible to see to it that every poor bastard in this country has "adequate" health care. If you think the Constitution needs changing, and if enough people agree with you to get it done, then I will happily pay my share. But until that happens STFU. Ain't my problem.

It might be your problem. Think about how some very serious disease is transmitted from person to person. Maybe if you never leave your home, and never go to the supermarket or mall or sporting event or music festival or take your car in for service, or ride public transportation, fly, appear for jury duty, attend church, etc. etc.

But if you do, or if your children do, or your parents, aunt Sue or even answer your door bell ... need I write more?

 

[Wry Catcher]

If Obamacare is so great, why did Democrat politicians exempt themselves from it?

A LIE by Omission. Congress always exempts their members from matters required of citizens. Not D Pols, but all Pols are complicit. Even the Republicans.

 

[2aguy]

Here is a suggestion to answer the question.

"The 14194 clinics in this database offer medical services (some may also offer dental services) and are free, low-cost, low-cost with a sliding scale based on income, or offer some type of financial assistance. If you're under or uninsured, and looking for a nearby free clinic, sliding scale clinic, or low-cost clinic, where you and/or your family can go for lost cost medical care, NeedyMeds can help. Please note that the clinics listed are not necessarily free.

For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics | NeedyMeds

Poor people get Medicare. Most of us get our insurance from our employers unless we lose or leave our job. Then if you have a pre-existing condition you can't get coverage. Then if you get sick they can cancel you.

Rightwingnut ignorance would be funny except it's not

And the way you fix that? You increase peoples ability to join into groups outside of work that can provide insurance...then pre existing conditions are folded into the group......unions have plans like this....as do other associations...the last thing you want is the government running healthcare....

Can you explain to us how a poor person on obamacare is supposed to cover a 7,500 dollar deductible.......? Even if they get the insurance premium with the help of hand outs from the government?