What will low income people do for healthcare if they lose their Obamacare?

[Carl in Michigan]

A LIE by Omission. Congress always exempts their members from matters required of citizens. Not D Pols, but all Pols are complicit. Even the Republicans.

The Republicans didn't vote for it. You guys own it. The Democrats should be required to live under their rules.

 

[Penelope]

So you don't pay taxes because if you do that is where the money goes. I never get a slip asking me where I'd like my tax dollars to go, do you?

Any taxes I pay I pay voluntarily. Sales taxes, property taxes, anything like that. That's all voluntary. I have no control what the taxes are used for, but I have control over whether or not I pay them.

Really, how is that?

 

[airplanemechanic]

I don't have to buy anything, so I don't have to pay sales tax. I don't have to own property, so I don't have to pay property tax. I don't have to own a car, so I don't have to pay car insurance or gas taxes. If I voluntarily own any of those things then I accept paying the tax. But the tax isn't mandatory unless you own the item.

But Obamacare, I can fog a mirror, so I have to buy it.

 

[yiostheoy]

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I don't see the GOP proposal passing.

That will leave ACA in place as it is.

 

[Claudette]

Unless I've missed something, we do not live in a socialist country. Nor have we amended our Constitution to permit Government (the taxpayers) to pay for healthcare for all.

Hence, we have the observable phenomena that :

People with money tend to eat better than people without money;

They tend to have nicer clothes;

They tend to live in safer, more posh places;

They tend to send their kids to better schools (all the way through college), whether public or private;

They get better healthcare.

To the extent that healthcare is a high priority, people who are "poor" have to seek out whatever resources are available and exploit them to the extent necessary.

But on the whole, people with resources will always get better healthcare than people without resources. AND THAT EVEN HAPPENS IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

So if you don't mind, stop telling me that I am financially responsible to see to it that every poor bastard in this country has "adequate" health care. If you think the Constitution needs changing, and if enough people agree with you to get it done, then I will happily pay my share. But until that happens STFU. Ain't my problem.

I agree and I couldn't have said it better.

People are responsible for themselves and the taxpayers aren't responsible for their health care, their rent, food on their table or anything else.

They need to get off their asses and take care of themselves.

 

[Care4all]

Unless I've missed something, we do not live in a socialist country. Nor have we amended our Constitution to permit Government (the taxpayers) to pay for healthcare for all.

Hence, we have the observable phenomena that :

People with money tend to eat better than people without money;

They tend to have nicer clothes;

They tend to live in safer, more posh places;

They tend to send their kids to better schools (all the way through college), whether public or private;

They get better healthcare.

To the extent that healthcare is a high priority, people who are "poor" have to seek out whatever resources are available and exploit them to the extent necessary.

But on the whole, people with resources will always get better healthcare than people without resources. AND THAT EVEN HAPPENS IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

So if you don't mind, stop telling me that I am financially responsible to see to it that every poor bastard in this country has "adequate" health care. If you think the Constitution needs changing, and if enough people agree with you to get it done, then I will happily pay my share. But until that happens STFU. Ain't my problem.

Did the Constitution have to be amended for Medicare?

 

[rightwinger]

I don't have to buy anything, so I don't have to pay sales tax. I don't have to own property, so I don't have to pay property tax. I don't have to own a car, so I don't have to pay car insurance or gas taxes. If I voluntarily own any of those things then I accept paying the tax. But the tax isn't mandatory unless you own the item.

But Obamacare, I can fog a mirror, so I have to buy it.

Very true

You are free to live as a homeless person
Otherwise you pay taxes

 

[rightwinger]

Unless I've missed something, we do not live in a socialist country. Nor have we amended our Constitution to permit Government (the taxpayers) to pay for healthcare for all.

Hence, we have the observable phenomena that :

People with money tend to eat better than people without money;

They tend to have nicer clothes;

They tend to live in safer, more posh places;

They tend to send their kids to better schools (all the way through college), whether public or private;

They get better healthcare.

To the extent that healthcare is a high priority, people who are "poor" have to seek out whatever resources are available and exploit them to the extent necessary.

But on the whole, people with resources will always get better healthcare than people without resources. AND THAT EVEN HAPPENS IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

So if you don't mind, stop telling me that I am financially responsible to see to it that every poor bastard in this country has "adequate" health care. If you think the Constitution needs changing, and if enough people agree with you to get it done, then I will happily pay my share. But until that happens STFU. Ain't my problem.

I agree and I couldn't have said it better.

People are responsible for themselves and the taxpayers aren't responsible for their health care, their rent, food on their table or anything else.

They need to get off their asses and take care of themselves.

Republican motto

I got mine......fuck everyone else

 

[Claudette]

Unless I've missed something, we do not live in a socialist country. Nor have we amended our Constitution to permit Government (the taxpayers) to pay for healthcare for all.

Hence, we have the observable phenomena that :

People with money tend to eat better than people without money;

They tend to have nicer clothes;

They tend to live in safer, more posh places;

They tend to send their kids to better schools (all the way through college), whether public or private;

They get better healthcare.

To the extent that healthcare is a high priority, people who are "poor" have to seek out whatever resources are available and exploit them to the extent necessary.

But on the whole, people with resources will always get better healthcare than people without resources. AND THAT EVEN HAPPENS IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

So if you don't mind, stop telling me that I am financially responsible to see to it that every poor bastard in this country has "adequate" health care. If you think the Constitution needs changing, and if enough people agree with you to get it done, then I will happily pay my share. But until that happens STFU. Ain't my problem.

I agree and I couldn't have said it better.

People are responsible for themselves and the taxpayers aren't responsible for their health care, their rent, food on their table or anything else.

They need to get off their asses and take care of themselves.

Republican motto

I got mine......fuck everyone else

Nope. I earned mine with work and I unlike you don't expect anyone to give me anything. Everything I have. I earned.

Your limitations are still showing.

 

[rightwinger]

Unless I've missed something, we do not live in a socialist country. Nor have we amended our Constitution to permit Government (the taxpayers) to pay for healthcare for all.

Hence, we have the observable phenomena that :

People with money tend to eat better than people without money;

They tend to have nicer clothes;

They tend to live in safer, more posh places;

They tend to send their kids to better schools (all the way through college), whether public or private;

They get better healthcare.

To the extent that healthcare is a high priority, people who are "poor" have to seek out whatever resources are available and exploit them to the extent necessary.

But on the whole, people with resources will always get better healthcare than people without resources. AND THAT EVEN HAPPENS IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

So if you don't mind, stop telling me that I am financially responsible to see to it that every poor bastard in this country has "adequate" health care. If you think the Constitution needs changing, and if enough people agree with you to get it done, then I will happily pay my share. But until that happens STFU. Ain't my problem.

I agree and I couldn't have said it better.

People are responsible for themselves and the taxpayers aren't responsible for their health care, their rent, food on their table or anything else.

They need to get off their asses and take care of themselves.

Republican motto

I got mine......fuck everyone else

Nope. I earned mine with work and I unlike you don't expect anyone to give me anything. Everything I have. I earned.

Your limitations are still showing.

Given your limited intellect I suspect you got quite a bit of help in life

 

[Pete7469]

What will "poor" people do without obozocare?

 

[Pete7469]

They'll die, because that's the republican way. They will know kick and scream about a fetus but once the fetus is born, you're on your own. So what if you have cancer and can't afford chemo? Or you need a kidney transplant? Too bad for you.

You need a retroactive abortion...

I'd be willing to chip in for that, you wouldn't have to force me to pay a tax.

 

[Claudette]

Unless I've missed something, we do not live in a socialist country. Nor have we amended our Constitution to permit Government (the taxpayers) to pay for healthcare for all.

Hence, we have the observable phenomena that :

People with money tend to eat better than people without money;

They tend to have nicer clothes;

They tend to live in safer, more posh places;

They tend to send their kids to better schools (all the way through college), whether public or private;

They get better healthcare.

To the extent that healthcare is a high priority, people who are "poor" have to seek out whatever resources are available and exploit them to the extent necessary.

But on the whole, people with resources will always get better healthcare than people without resources. AND THAT EVEN HAPPENS IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

So if you don't mind, stop telling me that I am financially responsible to see to it that every poor bastard in this country has "adequate" health care. If you think the Constitution needs changing, and if enough people agree with you to get it done, then I will happily pay my share. But until that happens STFU. Ain't my problem.

I agree and I couldn't have said it better.

People are responsible for themselves and the taxpayers aren't responsible for their health care, their rent, food on their table or anything else.

They need to get off their asses and take care of themselves.

Republican motto

I got mine......fuck everyone else

Nope. I earned mine with work and I unlike you don't expect anyone to give me anything. Everything I have. I earned.

Your limitations are still showing.

Given your limited intellect I suspect you got quite a bit of help in life

Nope. Anything I have I earned unlike you who sucked off the Federal tit you're whole life. You've never earned anything. Its all been given to you courtesy of the taxpayers of America.

Your limitations show through.

 

[WillowTree]

Unless I've missed something, we do not live in a socialist country. Nor have we amended our Constitution to permit Government (the taxpayers) to pay for healthcare for all.

Hence, we have the observable phenomena that :

People with money tend to eat better than people without money;

They tend to have nicer clothes;

They tend to live in safer, more posh places;

They tend to send their kids to better schools (all the way through college), whether public or private;

They get better healthcare.

To the extent that healthcare is a high priority, people who are "poor" have to seek out whatever resources are available and exploit them to the extent necessary.

But on the whole, people with resources will always get better healthcare than people without resources. AND THAT EVEN HAPPENS IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

So if you don't mind, stop telling me that I am financially responsible to see to it that every poor bastard in this country has "adequate" health care. If you think the Constitution needs changing, and if enough people agree with you to get it done, then I will happily pay my share. But until that happens STFU. Ain't my problem.

Yet you have no problem with corp welfare , school vouchers, subsidizing congressmen's health insurance, and paying for cops and firemen, subsidizes all state employees health insurance, using roads, breathing US air and drinking US water.

Cant the median income and poor income those working for min wage of 7.25 get a little help????

Well, is it helping when you drive the costs so high that the middle class can no longer afford healthcare? Serious question!

 

[rightwinger]

Unless I've missed something, we do not live in a socialist country. Nor have we amended our Constitution to permit Government (the taxpayers) to pay for healthcare for all.

Hence, we have the observable phenomena that :

People with money tend to eat better than people without money;

They tend to have nicer clothes;

They tend to live in safer, more posh places;

They tend to send their kids to better schools (all the way through college), whether public or private;

They get better healthcare.

To the extent that healthcare is a high priority, people who are "poor" have to seek out whatever resources are available and exploit them to the extent necessary.

But on the whole, people with resources will always get better healthcare than people without resources. AND THAT EVEN HAPPENS IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

So if you don't mind, stop telling me that I am financially responsible to see to it that every poor bastard in this country has "adequate" health care. If you think the Constitution needs changing, and if enough people agree with you to get it done, then I will happily pay my share. But until that happens STFU. Ain't my problem.

I agree and I couldn't have said it better.

People are responsible for themselves and the taxpayers aren't responsible for their health care, their rent, food on their table or anything else.

They need to get off their asses and take care of themselves.

Republican motto

I got mine......fuck everyone else

Nope. I earned mine with work and I unlike you don't expect anyone to give me anything. Everything I have. I earned.

Your limitations are still showing.

Given your limited intellect I suspect you got quite a bit of help in life

Nope. Anything I have I earned unlike you who sucked off the Federal tit you're whole life. You've never earned anything. Its all been given to you courtesy of the taxpayers of America.

Your limitations show through.

Public school?

Let me guess.....dropped out when you got pregnant

 

[Claudette]

I agree and I couldn't have said it better.

People are responsible for themselves and the taxpayers aren't responsible for their health care, their rent, food on their table or anything else.

They need to get off their asses and take care of themselves.

Republican motto

I got mine......fuck everyone else

Nope. I earned mine with work and I unlike you don't expect anyone to give me anything. Everything I have. I earned.

Your limitations are still showing.

Given your limited intellect I suspect you got quite a bit of help in life

Nope. Anything I have I earned unlike you who sucked off the Federal tit you're whole life. You've never earned anything. Its all been given to you courtesy of the taxpayers of America.

Your limitations show through.

Public school?

Let me guess.....droped out when you got pregnant

Nope. Was way smarter than that.

You, however, weren't.

You're limitations are still showing.

 

[danielpalos]

Yet you subsidize the congressmen's HI and all state employees and corporations. I call that socialism. You also pay for school vouchers whether you like it or not, prisons, etc. WE send 3.8 billion a year to Israel, which would cover the deficit for 10 years instead of taking away health insurance for everyone.

I could easily choose not to pay for those things. I don't subsidize anything. Paying for schools betters the community and the future of our nation. Paying for poor people's health care so they can continue to porch sit doesn't help anyone. I don't have to pay for schools if I don't want to. I don't have to pay for ANYTHING if I don't want to. Except that fucking Obamacare. That I HAVE TO PAY FOR, simply because I can fog a mirror.

Just like the car insurance analogy, I don't have to own a car so I don't have to have insurance. I don't have to pay for school or anything else, there are ways around all of it, except that fucking Obozocare.

some on the alt-left, could easily claim that any militia, needs to be well fed and well regulated. it is for, "national security" reasons.

 

[danielpalos]

they should get treated and pay what they can...I'm a nutshell though they are totally screwed. this nation is for the mega wealthy...they own it. the rest of us are here to fight their ears and die for them...no use fighting it as they will not permit it.

it would work better, if we hadn't been so "conditioned" to avoid taxes.

Should we, "blame the British"?

 

[Mac1958]

The folks who want the "freedom" to pay "their own way" don't realize that, in that system, they're also paying for those who can't, in the form of taxes, higher premiums and higher costs.

Why is this so difficult to understand?
.

 

[RealDave]

Here is a suggestion to answer the question.

"The 14194 clinics in this database offer medical services (some may also offer dental services) and are free, low-cost, low-cost with a sliding scale based on income, or offer some type of financial assistance. If you're under or uninsured, and looking for a nearby free clinic, sliding scale clinic, or low-cost clinic, where you and/or your family can go for lost cost medical care, NeedyMeds can help. Please note that the clinics listed are not necessarily free.

For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics | NeedyMeds

Can we point out that every individual in America, whether legal or otherwise, has had healthcare- by federal law- since it was mandated by the most successful President in the last hundred years.

"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to individuals seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay."
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia

Here you go again. Being so stupid to think running to the ER is healthcare. It is not. It is a treatment. for a condition.
What if you make $30K with a family? Would you quality for free csare at the ER.

Do you think anyone can stop it & say " I ain't paying" & get a colonoscopy?