What will low income people do for healthcare if they lose their Obamacare?

[ThunderKiss1965]

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If your are at the point where you need subsidised health care then I have to ask how much are you spending to be on this site ? You have connected to the internet using some type of device, none of this is free.

 

[Penelope]

They will get sick, they will die, and the Alt Right will yell "yay".

Pretty much the way it is with obamacare, $7500 deductible. Pretty much a death sentence for most.

Yes....obamacare.....healthcare on paper....you have health insurance, you just can't afford to get actual medical treatment...and the left acts as if getting rid of that is horrible....

Why not, because your state has not expanded Medicaid?

Medicaid is the worst delivery system for healthcare...the government tells doctors they won't pay the whole bill....and then doctors stop taking those patients....government in action again....

I know someone on Medicaid, bad shape and they have better care than I do on Medicare. I sometimes wish I had Medicaid, but I have too much mula and assets. I also do not begrudge this person for needing Medicaid a hard worker who fell on bad luck and bad health. One would need to spend down to get his coverage, but most of the median income will not have a problem with that, 1 year can eat up your savings if not insured, even less for many . Go to Healthcare . gov and get insurance .

 

[Carl in Michigan]

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"The 14194 clinics in this database offer medical services (some may also offer dental services) and are free, low-cost, low-cost with a sliding scale based on income, or offer some type of financial assistance. If you're under or uninsured, and looking for a nearby free clinic, sliding scale clinic, or low-cost clinic, where you and/or your family can go for lost cost medical care, NeedyMeds can help. Please note that the clinics listed are not necessarily free.

For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

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Can we point out that every individual in America, whether legal or otherwise, has had healthcare- by federal law- since it was mandated by the most successful President in the last hundred years.

"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to individuals seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay."
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia

Every time a new "entitlement" is created, this is what happens. We can almost never eliminate them.

Unfortunately, Repubs have created their share.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Medicare is not an entitlement.

SS is not an entitlement.

DA does not have an entitlement to deceive.

 

[Penelope]

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"The 14194 clinics in this database offer medical services (some may also offer dental services) and are free, low-cost, low-cost with a sliding scale based on income, or offer some type of financial assistance. If you're under or uninsured, and looking for a nearby free clinic, sliding scale clinic, or low-cost clinic, where you and/or your family can go for lost cost medical care, NeedyMeds can help. Please note that the clinics listed are not necessarily free.

For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics | NeedyMeds

If your are at the point where you need subsidised health care then I have to ask how much are you spending to be on this site ? You have connected to the internet using some type of device, none of this is free.

Libraries have fee internet and the apt building the person I know on Medicaid has free wifi in the community room. A person almost needs a computer now days with internet and yes Chavez, a cellphone.

Unless I've missed something, we do not live in a socialist country. Nor have we amended our Constitution to permit Government (the taxpayers) to pay for healthcare for all.

Hence, we have the observable phenomena that :

People with money tend to eat better than people without money;

They tend to have nicer clothes;

They tend to live in safer, more posh places;

They tend to send their kids to better schools (all the way through college), whether public or private;

They get better healthcare.

To the extent that healthcare is a high priority, people who are "poor" have to seek out whatever resources are available and exploit them to the extent necessary.

But on the whole, people with resources will always get better healthcare than people without resources. AND THAT EVEN HAPPENS IN COUNTRIES WHERE THEY HAVE SOCIALIZED MEDICINE.

So if you don't mind, stop telling me that I am financially responsible to see to it that every poor bastard in this country has "adequate" health care. If you think the Constitution needs changing, and if enough people agree with you to get it done, then I will happily pay my share. But until that happens STFU. Ain't my problem.

Yet you have no problem with corp welfare , school vouchers, subsidizing congressmen's health insurance, and paying for cops and firemen, subsidizes all state employees health insurance, using roads, breathing US air and drinking US water.

Cant the median income and poor income those working for min wage of 7.25 get a little help????

A D.C. You want us to buy your tampons and condoms too!

Yep.

 

[Penelope]

For you who decide you hate the mandate, get sick: Get health insurance and keep it or spend 30% more, ha ha.

One way to stop this spiral to market collapse is a mandate that keeps healthy people in the insurance pool. The mandate in Obamacare wasn’t strong enough, and too many relatively healthy (and often young) people went without insurance. The mandate in the Republican proposal is even weaker and actually creates an incentive to go without insurance. The penalty for going without insurance does not occur until you sign up for insurance after a lapse, so the rational thing to do is to wait as long as possible before getting insurance. It’s hard to see how this will work.

The presence of insurance companies in the health services market creates another problem. It means people are going to have their choices – what will be paid for, the type of care, etc. – determined by insurance companies and the policies they offer. Unlike most other goods, you can’t choose whatever health care treatment you want. The insurance company must approve it, and insurance companies will deny payment whenever possible. They have whole staffs devoted to finding reasons to deny payment, so some type of regulatory oversight is needed to ensure consumers get the care they were promised.

Analysis: Why the Republican health care plan is destined to fail

Trump is on TV now saying the neg effects from the ACA wont be noticeable till 2019, what a dimwit.

Yes....force people to buy it........that is a good fascist for you....and if they don't buy it...lock them up.....in healthcare prisons......that is where it always goes with you lefties....

There should be no mandate.......then insurance companies will have to structure plans people can afford.

I have no choice but to subsidize congressmen's healthcare and my tax dollars going to For profit schools , do I?

 

[airplanemechanic]

Democrats define success as a few million poor people acquiring insurance they can't afford to actually use and making wealthy successful people pay for it.

Ahhh, take from the rich and give to the poor. Very classic liberalism.

One needs to work full time at 11 bucks an hour to qualify for the ACA. If that is poor then I guess the Fed wage should be raised from 7.25, right or wrong??

If they make no money they qualify under the medicaid expansion.

/end thread.

 

[WillowTree]

So who wants to answer the question of what happens when everyone is poor?

 

[Penelope]

Democrats define success as a few million poor people acquiring insurance they can't afford to actually use and making wealthy successful people pay for it.

Ahhh, take from the rich and give to the poor. Very classic liberalism.

One needs to work full time at 11 bucks an hour to qualify for the ACA. If that is poor then I guess the Fed wage should be raised from 7.25, right or wrong??

If they make no money they qualify under the medicaid expansion.

/end thread.

No 18 states didn't expand Medicaid.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Democrats define success as a few million poor people acquiring insurance they can't afford to actually use and making wealthy successful people pay for it.

Ahhh, take from the rich and give to the poor. Very classic liberalism.

One needs to work full time at 11 bucks an hour to qualify for the ACA. If that is poor then I guess the Fed wage should be raised from 7.25, right or wrong??

If they make no money they qualify under the medicaid expansion.

/end thread.

Not if the states will not do it. End the stupidity.

 

[Penelope]

Here is a suggestion to answer the question.

"The 14194 clinics in this database offer medical services (some may also offer dental services) and are free, low-cost, low-cost with a sliding scale based on income, or offer some type of financial assistance. If you're under or uninsured, and looking for a nearby free clinic, sliding scale clinic, or low-cost clinic, where you and/or your family can go for lost cost medical care, NeedyMeds can help. Please note that the clinics listed are not necessarily free.

For additional information and appointments contact the clinic directly.

For a description of which clinics we include on our website and what type of information we provide on each clinic, visit our Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics page."

Free/Low-Cost/Sliding Scale Clinics | NeedyMeds

Can we point out that every individual in America, whether legal or otherwise, has had healthcare- by federal law- since it was mandated by the most successful President in the last hundred years.

"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to individuals seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay."
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia

Once again, ER Hosp departments are not health care.

health·care
ˈhelTHker/
noun

1. the maintenance and improvement of physical and mental health, especially through the provision of medical services.

Please try to restrict your posts to the English language in the future.

And if you enter the Er and see a Dr. he will treat you and tell you to follow up with your FAMILY DR. ER is not healthcare.

Do you know what maintenance means?????

" ER is not healthcare."

Yeah, it is.

What is it about the words "emergency" and "maintenance" you don't understand? ER is not healthcare.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Can we point out that every individual in America, whether legal or otherwise, has had healthcare- by federal law- since it was mandated by the most successful President in the last hundred years.

"The Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act (EMTALA)[1] is an act of the United States Congress, passed in 1986 as part of the Consolidated Omnibus Budget Reconciliation Act (COBRA). It requires hospital Emergency Departments that accept payments from Medicare to provide an appropriate medical screening examination (MSE) to individuals seeking treatment for a medical condition, regardless of citizenship, legal status, or ability to pay."
Emergency Medical Treatment and Active Labor Act - Wikipedia

Once again, ER Hosp departments are not health care.

health·care
ˈhelTHker/
noun

1. the maintenance and improvement of physical and mental health, especially through the provision of medical services.

Please try to restrict your posts to the English language in the future.

And if you enter the Er and see a Dr. he will treat you and tell you to follow up with your FAMILY DR. ER is not healthcare.

Do you know what maintenance means?????

" ER is not healthcare."

Yeah, it is.

What is it about the words "emergency" and "maintenance" you don't understand? ER is not healthcare.

Of course it is.

 

[Penelope]

Once again, ER Hosp departments are not health care.

health·care
ˈhelTHker/
noun

1. the maintenance and improvement of physical and mental health, especially through the provision of medical services.

Please try to restrict your posts to the English language in the future.

And if you enter the Er and see a Dr. he will treat you and tell you to follow up with your FAMILY DR. ER is not healthcare.

Do you know what maintenance means?????

" ER is not healthcare."

Yeah, it is.

What is it about the words "emergency" and "maintenance" you don't understand? ER is not healthcare.

Of course it is.

Have you ever been to the ER? They either treat you and tell you to follow up with your family dr or admit you. When you discharged from the hospital if admitted, they tell you to follow up with your family dr.

 

[PoliticalChic]

health·care
ˈhelTHker/
noun

1. the maintenance and improvement of physical and mental health, especially through the provision of medical services.

Please try to restrict your posts to the English language in the future.

And if you enter the Er and see a Dr. he will treat you and tell you to follow up with your FAMILY DR. ER is not healthcare.

Do you know what maintenance means?????

" ER is not healthcare."

Yeah, it is.

What is it about the words "emergency" and "maintenance" you don't understand? ER is not healthcare.

Of course it is.

Have you ever been to the ER? They either treat you and tell you to follow up with your family dr or admit you. When you discharged from the hospital if admitted, they tell you to follow up with your family dr.

"Have you ever been to the ER?"

I sure have.

Folks are there with children with the sniffles, and some with broken bones...and everything in between

Healthcare.


You imagined (I almost said 'thought') it was a buffet?

 

[Penelope]

And if you enter the Er and see a Dr. he will treat you and tell you to follow up with your FAMILY DR. ER is not healthcare.

Do you know what maintenance means?????

" ER is not healthcare."

Yeah, it is.

What is it about the words "emergency" and "maintenance" you don't understand? ER is not healthcare.

Of course it is.

Have you ever been to the ER? They either treat you and tell you to follow up with your family dr or admit you. When you discharged from the hospital if admitted, they tell you to follow up with your family dr.

"Have you ever been to the ER?"

I sure have.

Folks are there with children with the sniffles, and some with broken bones...and everything in between

Healthcare.


You imagined (I almost said 'thought') it was a buffet?

Only for work, I have insurance. Take that back, I fell and hit my head hard, and couldn't eat for most of the say or drink water, so I had a closed head injury and I went to er and was admitted.

 

[PoliticalChic]

" ER is not healthcare."

Yeah, it is.

What is it about the words "emergency" and "maintenance" you don't understand? ER is not healthcare.

Of course it is.

Have you ever been to the ER? They either treat you and tell you to follow up with your family dr or admit you. When you discharged from the hospital if admitted, they tell you to follow up with your family dr.

"Have you ever been to the ER?"

I sure have.

Folks are there with children with the sniffles, and some with broken bones...and everything in between

Healthcare.


You imagined (I almost said 'thought') it was a buffet?

Only for work, I have insurance. Take that back, I fell and hit my head hard, and couldn't eat for most of the say or drink water, so I had a closed head injury and I went to er and was admitted.

".... I fell and hit my head hard,....."


Nothing more need be said.

 

[Penelope]

What is it about the words "emergency" and "maintenance" you don't understand? ER is not healthcare.

Of course it is.

Have you ever been to the ER? They either treat you and tell you to follow up with your family dr or admit you. When you discharged from the hospital if admitted, they tell you to follow up with your family dr.

"Have you ever been to the ER?"

I sure have.

Folks are there with children with the sniffles, and some with broken bones...and everything in between

Healthcare.


You imagined (I almost said 'thought') it was a buffet?

Only for work, I have insurance. Take that back, I fell and hit my head hard, and couldn't eat for most of the say or drink water, so I had a closed head injury and I went to er and was admitted.

".... I fell and hit my head hard,....."


Nothing more need be said.

And I'm all better.

 

[PoliticalChic]

Of course it is.

Have you ever been to the ER? They either treat you and tell you to follow up with your family dr or admit you. When you discharged from the hospital if admitted, they tell you to follow up with your family dr.

"Have you ever been to the ER?"

I sure have.

Folks are there with children with the sniffles, and some with broken bones...and everything in between

Healthcare.


You imagined (I almost said 'thought') it was a buffet?

Only for work, I have insurance. Take that back, I fell and hit my head hard, and couldn't eat for most of the say or drink water, so I had a closed head injury and I went to er and was admitted.

".... I fell and hit my head hard,....."


Nothing more need be said.

And I'm all better.

".... I fell and hit my head hard,.....
And I'm all better."



I'll be the judge of that.
Was Mickey Mouse a cat or a dog?

 

[RodISHI]

If they're smart, they will doctor themselves. Almost always that is best anyway. Going to a money-grubbing quack doctor should be the last thing you do.

Most people on the ACA make 22000 to 100,000 grand a year, which is more than min wage. What should they do now?? Please tell me.

Even is one makes10 bucks an hour and works full time that is only 20,800, not enough to be on the ACA.

What is your solution??

In the states that have not expanded Medicaid, a family of 3 in texas needs to make less than 8700 a year for Medicaid.

What is your solution??

Give yourself that heart bypass, ok, give yourself that gall bladder surgery. Doctor yourself,

maybe the congressmen should dr. themselves.

WE make less than $5,000.00 a year. We do not qualify for ACA or any assistance of any kind (without a long drawn out legal battle which one could very well die while waiting for it). I was covered in chemicals on the job. Due to the corrupt system here I was denied adequate medical care when it happened. The insurance company and the employer lied their asses off. The insurance company that was supposed to by law make sure I was treated properly didn't. They by law have the right to send an injured employee to the doctor of their choice. That doctor of their choice attempted to give my drugs (very dangerous ones). I refused to take his drugs and I wasn't about to lie like the lawyer said I should and tell him I did. Long and short of that is the state employees and the lawyers, insurance company etc.... all covered their asses and covered up the fact that the insurance companies doctor was actually a drug addict, sociopath who had once previously lost his license for drug abuse and endangering patients. This is what your insurance companies do. You can keep them as they will and would let people die in order to save or make a buck.

Learn how to prevent heart disease and learn what it takes to prevent Gall Stones from forming (take care of your Liver properly). If you get Gall Stones (BTW, everyone has them not all end up a problem) learn what you can do to treat them at home I did. It wasn't easy and it can be very painful but if you don't have insurance and your state won't allow for any medical care even though their doctor says you need it you'll find a way or die. Its that simple.

PC is correct if you absolutely are in dire need a hospital cannot turn you away. I've been there and done that too. Had a creepy doctor call my mom when the children were babes and tell her come get your grandchildren as your daughter is too sick to watch over them. He knew I was deathly ill but sent me home to die because I did not have insurance (long time ago but I recall it like yesterday). My mom came and got the children and left a handyman there to watch over me. I called her and told her I appreciated the thought but did not want him there while trying to crawl to the bathroom when I had to puke. I had Chickenpox that went into my lungs, intestine throughout. Ran a fever of over a 102 for almost a week. Friends came to see me because they had not heard from me for days. Told me they were going out of state and they would be back to check on me in a few hours. If I did not go to the hospital on my own they would call an ambulance. I drifted in and out of consciousness for several hours just like I had been for days. (I won't get too detailed as it would take too long). Anyhow I did not want a bill for an ambulance on top of everything else I couldn't pay so I drove self to hospital. Literally fell through the emergency doors. The hospital kept me there for a week knowing that I had not a dime to pay them. Even today they would do the same or face a very expensive lawsuit for turning away someone at deaths door.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The poor had medicaid before ocare. They had medicaid during ocare. They will have medicaid after ocare.