What will make BLM happy?

[HereWeGoAgain]

Statistics show more whites and Hispanics are shot by police than blacks. BLM is telling everyone only certain lives matter. If you respond with " all lives matter", you might as well spit in their face.

What will make them happy?

Cop cams. So that everything is recorded and not subject to speculation. It's simple: the bar for indicting a cop for a wrongful death/shooting is very high, in all states. They wield a lot of power in situations that have no real-time oversight. So if the individual states want to grant these individuals that kind of power without accountability, then cop cameras have to be worn and turned on at the same time a cop arrives at the scene and left on until the scene is resolved in either a release of the suspect or an arrest.

And whatever happened to tasers? Why the hell aren't cops using these instead of bullets?

Police Body Camera Business Is Booming in Wake of Dallas Shootings
JULY 9, 2016
Police Body Camera Business Is Booming in Wake of Dallas Shootings

That is a solution for a problem that should not exist in the first place.

No matter what race we want to talk about, members of that race that come from families that are destined to be poor will interact with police in a disproportionate percentage.

Cure the illness, don't just put the patient on pain killers.

Until society gets real, body cams or not, these events will continue.

You are wrong.

Cleveland police body cameras reduced citizen complaints by 40 percent, police officials say
Cleveland police body cameras reduced citizen complaints by 40 percent, police officials say

After shooting a 12-year-old boy with a toy gun, Cleveland had to get real.

Of course the complaints went down. The morons know they cant get away with shit when they are on camera.
And that would be morons from both sides of the issue.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Statistics show more whites and Hispanics are shot by police than blacks. BLM is telling everyone only certain lives matter. If you respond with " all lives matter", you might as well spit in their face.

What will make them happy?

Cop cams. So that everything is recorded and not subject to speculation. It's simple: the bar for indicting a cop for a wrongful death/shooting is very high, in all states. They wield a lot of power in situations that have no real-time oversight. So if the individual states want to grant these individuals that kind of power without accountability, then cop cameras have to be worn and turned on at the same time a cop arrives at the scene and left on until the scene is resolved in either a release of the suspect or an arrest.

And whatever happened to tasers? Why the hell aren't cops using these instead of bullets?

Police Body Camera Business Is Booming in Wake of Dallas Shootings
JULY 9, 2016
Police Body Camera Business Is Booming in Wake of Dallas Shootings

That is a solution for a problem that should not exist in the first place.

No matter what race we want to talk about, members of that race that come from families that are destined to be poor will interact with police in a disproportionate percentage.

Cure the illness, don't just put the patient on pain killers.

Until society gets real, body cams or not, these events will continue.

You are wrong.

Cleveland police body cameras reduced citizen complaints by 40 percent, police officials say
Cleveland police body cameras reduced citizen complaints by 40 percent, police officials say

After shooting a 12-year-old boy with a toy gun, Cleveland had to get real.

Probably because they realize they can't lie anymore.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Why would you assume that the very same media that created the BLM movement will turn around start ignoring them?

Because the only reason they broadcast these lowlifes is due to ratings. Once people get bored with it and start turning off the news, they will drop BLM like a hot potato.

 

[Mac1958]

From the list in Post 20, it appears the top wishes are:

• Bodycams & Dashcams
• Special Prosecutors
• Increased training for Police
• Civilian Review Boards
• Changes to Municipal Budget Formulas

Would anyone consider this to be an unreasonable list?

I don't.
.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

There is nothing on earth that will make disgruntled people happy. Without their disgruntlement, they would have nothing to live for.

The BLM movement is a reaction to the social justice warrior media that highlights every single instance where a white cop kills a black perp no matter the cause. As such, it is predicated upon divorcing cause from effect and behavior from consequences. It creates a self-fulfilling prophesy as more and more of the black community sees themselves as persecuted, and so act in belligerent ways that guarantee they will be treated differently. In turn, the police become so over-reactive that they are quick to the trigger even when a black person IS acting properly (as in Minneapolis recently).

It is a self-perpetuating system on both sides of the equation, and people are so caught up in their finger pointing that they cannot possibly address the situation that the media has created.

This movement against police (BLM or others) is only weakening their ability to do their job. As a result of the Ferguson effect, more blacks are getting killed than ever; not by police, but by other blacks.

These goofs don't ever realize that they are working against their own cause. Police no longer go the extra mile because of blacks. Why get involved with something that the community may not support if things get ugly? If you need a cop, they will respond, but they will not go out of their way to look for troublemakers. They will wait for the troublemakers to actually start trouble, and get a call from a citizen before they do anything about it.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Statistics show more whites and Hispanics are shot by police than blacks. BLM is telling everyone only certain lives matter. If you respond with " all lives matter", you might as well spit in their face.

What will make them happy?

Pretty simple.

The end of the Grand Jury system that protects murderous cops .. legislation for the prosecution and conviction of those murderous cops.

If you think Hispanics aren't outraged by police abuse of them, it's because the media generally fails to report their protests. We can and will help them with that.

There’s a Reason You Haven’t Heard About the ‘Latino Lives Matter’ Movement
The officer-involved shooting death of Antonio Zambrano-Montes in Washington state has activists wondering about the lack of protest and media attention.
excerpt

"Though it’s clear Pasco has its own challenges, it’s not Ferguson. For days, demonstrators braved militarized police tactics in the St. Louis suburb, calling for change and using social media to spread the “Black Lives Matter” movement across the nation as new incidents occurred. Instead of waiting for mainstream media to cover the story, activists took to Twitter, Vine, Instagram, and streaming to tell it themselves until the media could not look away.

“The Latino population did not respond nationally as African Americans did concerning the killing of African American men by police,” said Nestor Rodriguez, a sociology professor at the University of Texas, Austin. Though Rodriguez noted “police have been killing black and Latino youth for decades,” the swift response by the black community—first on social media, then offline— made the difference in forming a movement, he said.

“When it comes to Latinos, a large percent are immigrants or children of immigrants, so they have a host of issues to deal with in regard to status,” Rodriguez said."
There’s a Reason You Haven’t Heard About the ‘Latino Lives Matter’ Movement

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Pretty simple.

The end of the Grand Jury system that protects murderous cops .. legislation for the prosecution and conviction of those murderous cops.

So what you are talking about is eliminating our entire justice system so you get what you want?

Maybe the real solution if for you and your ilk to find another country to live in. Over here, everybody is innocent until proven guilty, and they have the right to be judged by a jury of their peers. It's been that way since our founding.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

Pretty simple.

The end of the Grand Jury system that protects murderous cops .. legislation for the prosecution and conviction of those murderous cops.

So what you are talking about is eliminating our entire justice system so you get what you want?

Maybe the real solution if for you and your ilk to find another country to live in. Over here, everybody is innocent until proven guilty, and they have the right to be judged by a jury of their peers. It's been that way since our founding.

The Grand Jury is not the entire justice system.

.. and fuck you dimwit .. maybe you should be looking for another country to live in given that you and your ilk have lost virtually every social issue you champion .. and there is no doubt whatsoever that you're going to lose this one as well.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

The Grand Jury is not the entire justice system.

.. and fuck you dimwit .. maybe you should be looking for another country to live in given that you and your ilk have lost virtually every social issue you champion .. and there is no doubt whatsoever that you're going to lose this one as well.

Over what, a bunch of unemployed losers that have nothing better to do with their time than protest?

We win at the ballot box which you will see next election.

Our Grand Jury is the beginning stage of our justice system you anti-American. If you want to live in a country where the public decides innocence or guilt, and the accused has no right to defend themselves, then Iran might be a good place to think about moving.

You cop haters are all alike.

 

[Pop23]

From the list in Post 20, it appears the top wishes are:

• Bodycams & Dashcams
• Special Prosecutors
• Increased training for Police
• Civilian Review Boards
• Changes to Municipal Budget Formulas

Would anyone consider this to be an unreasonable list?

I don't.
.

Yes

You are looking for solutions from one side and one side only. Problems exist on the other side that, without resolution from that community, makes solution impossible.

 

[BlackAsCoal]

The Grand Jury is not the entire justice system.

.. and fuck you dimwit .. maybe you should be looking for another country to live in given that you and your ilk have lost virtually every social issue you champion .. and there is no doubt whatsoever that you're going to lose this one as well.

Over what, a bunch of unemployed losers that have nothing better to do with their time than protest?

We win at the ballot box which you will see next election.

Our Grand Jury is the beginning stage of our justice system you anti-American. If you want to live in a country where the public decides innocence or guilt, and the accused has no right to defend themselves, then Iran might be a good place to think about moving.

You cop haters are all alike.

You racist clowns are all alike .. blind and ignorant.

We shall see who wins at the ballot box. :0)

 

[Mac1958]

From the list in Post 20, it appears the top wishes are:

• Bodycams & Dashcams
• Special Prosecutors
• Increased training for Police
• Civilian Review Boards
• Changes to Municipal Budget Formulas

Would anyone consider this to be an unreasonable list?

I don't.
.

Yes

You are looking for solutions from one side and one side only. Problems exist on the other side that, without resolution from that community, makes solution impossible.

Sure, these are what the BLM movement wants, and it would be where their side of the discussion would begin.

The other side of the issue would have their own ideas, such as expecting BLM to raise expectations - such as don't fight with cops, don't resist arrest, etc.

It's like we've reached a point where we're afraid to even communicate. Somebody has to be the adult in the room.
.

 

[BlueGin]

From the list in Post 20, it appears the top wishes are:

• Bodycams & Dashcams
• Special Prosecutors
• Increased training for Police
• Civilian Review Boards
• Changes to Municipal Budget Formulas

Would anyone consider this to be an unreasonable list?

I don't.
.

They already have that stuff . As a matter of fact one of the BLM activists went through LEO training and was shocked at how nerve wracking it was. There is a video online if his experience.

They don't really want any of that stuff. They just want to riot and harass the police.

 

[Conservative65]

Statistics show more whites and Hispanics are shot by police than blacks. BLM is telling everyone only certain lives matter. If you respond with " all lives matter", you might as well spit in their face.

What will make them happy?

Pretty simple.

The end of the Grand Jury system that protects murderous cops .. legislation for the prosecution and conviction of those murderous cops.

If you think Hispanics aren't outraged by police abuse of them, it's because the media generally fails to report their protests. We can and will help them with that.

There’s a Reason You Haven’t Heard About the ‘Latino Lives Matter’ Movement
The officer-involved shooting death of Antonio Zambrano-Montes in Washington state has activists wondering about the lack of protest and media attention.
excerpt

"Though it’s clear Pasco has its own challenges, it’s not Ferguson. For days, demonstrators braved militarized police tactics in the St. Louis suburb, calling for change and using social media to spread the “Black Lives Matter” movement across the nation as new incidents occurred. Instead of waiting for mainstream media to cover the story, activists took to Twitter, Vine, Instagram, and streaming to tell it themselves until the media could not look away.

“The Latino population did not respond nationally as African Americans did concerning the killing of African American men by police,” said Nestor Rodriguez, a sociology professor at the University of Texas, Austin. Though Rodriguez noted “police have been killing black and Latino youth for decades,” the swift response by the black community—first on social media, then offline— made the difference in forming a movement, he said.

“When it comes to Latinos, a large percent are immigrants or children of immigrants, so they have a host of issues to deal with in regard to status,” Rodriguez said."
There’s a Reason You Haven’t Heard About the ‘Latino Lives Matter’ Movement

Your problem is that when a black is shot by police, your first, last, and only thought is it was racially motivated. If you want to see a racist, look in the mirror with a mindset like that.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Statistics show more whites and Hispanics are shot by police than blacks. BLM is telling everyone only certain lives matter. If you respond with " all lives matter", you might as well spit in their face.

What will make them happy?

Cop cams. So that everything is recorded and not subject to speculation. It's simple: the bar for indicting a cop for a wrongful death/shooting is very high, in all states. They wield a lot of power in situations that have no real-time oversight. So if the individual states want to grant these individuals that kind of power without accountability, then cop cameras have to be worn and turned on at the same time a cop arrives at the scene and left on until the scene is resolved in either a release of the suspect or an arrest.

And whatever happened to tasers? Why the hell aren't cops using these instead of bullets?

Police Body Camera Business Is Booming in Wake of Dallas Shootings
JULY 9, 2016
Police Body Camera Business Is Booming in Wake of Dallas Shootings

That is a solution for a problem that should not exist in the first place.

No matter what race we want to talk about, members of that race that come from families that are destined to be poor will interact with police in a disproportionate percentage.

Cure the illness, don't just put the patient on pain killers.

Until society gets real, body cams or not, these events will continue.

You are wrong.

Cleveland police body cameras reduced citizen complaints by 40 percent, police officials say
Cleveland police body cameras reduced citizen complaints by 40 percent, police officials say

After shooting a 12-year-old boy with a toy gun, Cleveland had to get real.

^^^^^Pain killers don't CURE cancer

Prevention does. And insurance (cop cams) pays for prevention. Getting it yet? Or do you think the Cleveland PD is making this up?

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

From the list in Post 20, it appears the top wishes are:

• Bodycams & Dashcams
• Special Prosecutors
• Increased training for Police
• Civilian Review Boards
• Changes to Municipal Budget Formulas

Would anyone consider this to be an unreasonable list?

I don't.
.

They already have that stuff . As a matter of fact one of the BLM activists went through LEO training and was shocked at how nerve wracking it was. There is a video online if his experience.

They don't really want any of that stuff. They just want to riot and harass the police.

No they don't and you don't speak for "them" in the first place if you're white and middle class.

 

[BlueGin]

From the list in Post 20, it appears the top wishes are:

• Bodycams & Dashcams
• Special Prosecutors
• Increased training for Police
• Civilian Review Boards
• Changes to Municipal Budget Formulas

Would anyone consider this to be an unreasonable list?

I don't.
.

They already have that stuff . As a matter of fact one of the BLM activists went through LEO training and was shocked at how nerve wracking it was. There is a video online if his experience.

They don't really want any of that stuff. They just want to riot and harass the police.

No they don't and you don't speak for "them" in the first place if you're white and middle class.

What don't they have?

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

From the list in Post 20, it appears the top wishes are:

• Bodycams & Dashcams
• Special Prosecutors
• Increased training for Police
• Civilian Review Boards
• Changes to Municipal Budget Formulas

Would anyone consider this to be an unreasonable list?

I don't.
.

They already have that stuff . As a matter of fact one of the BLM activists went through LEO training and was shocked at how nerve wracking it was. There is a video online if his experience.

They don't really want any of that stuff. They just want to riot and harass the police.

No they don't and you don't speak for "them" in the first place if you're white and middle class.

What don't they have?

You are OBVIOUSLY white middle class.

 

[Pop23]

From the list in Post 20, it appears the top wishes are:

• Bodycams & Dashcams
• Special Prosecutors
• Increased training for Police
• Civilian Review Boards
• Changes to Municipal Budget Formulas

Would anyone consider this to be an unreasonable list?

I don't.
.

Yes

You are looking for solutions from one side and one side only. Problems exist on the other side that, without resolution from that community, makes solution impossible.

Sure, these are what the BLM movement wants, and it would be where their side of the discussion would begin.

The other side of the issue would have their own ideas, such as expecting BLM to raise expectations - such as don't fight with cops, don't resist arrest, etc.

It's like we've reached a point where we're afraid to even communicate. Somebody has to be the adult in the room.
.

I'm thinking more like. Black fathers quit abandoning your children.

Nothing else will really stop this.

 

[Pop23]

Statistics show more whites and Hispanics are shot by police than blacks. BLM is telling everyone only certain lives matter. If you respond with " all lives matter", you might as well spit in their face.

What will make them happy?

Cop cams. So that everything is recorded and not subject to speculation. It's simple: the bar for indicting a cop for a wrongful death/shooting is very high, in all states. They wield a lot of power in situations that have no real-time oversight. So if the individual states want to grant these individuals that kind of power without accountability, then cop cameras have to be worn and turned on at the same time a cop arrives at the scene and left on until the scene is resolved in either a release of the suspect or an arrest.

And whatever happened to tasers? Why the hell aren't cops using these instead of bullets?

Police Body Camera Business Is Booming in Wake of Dallas Shootings
JULY 9, 2016
Police Body Camera Business Is Booming in Wake of Dallas Shootings

That is a solution for a problem that should not exist in the first place.

No matter what race we want to talk about, members of that race that come from families that are destined to be poor will interact with police in a disproportionate percentage.

Cure the illness, don't just put the patient on pain killers.

Until society gets real, body cams or not, these events will continue.

You are wrong.

Cleveland police body cameras reduced citizen complaints by 40 percent, police officials say
Cleveland police body cameras reduced citizen complaints by 40 percent, police officials say

After shooting a 12-year-old boy with a toy gun, Cleveland had to get real.

^^^^^Pain killers don't CURE cancer

Prevention does. And insurance (cop cams) pays for prevention. Getting it yet? Or do you think the Cleveland PD is making this up?

If you think putting a band aide on a cancer cures it, then OK.