What will Trump do the next 74 days?

[sealybobo]

Something tells me it will be unique, unfortuately.

Trump Administration Removes Official Who Oversees National Climate Assessment
The White House is reportedly expected to replace Michael Kuperberg with climate-change skeptic David Legates.

Why would he do this with only 73 days left? What will this Legates do in 73 days?

Legates has falsely claimed, among other things, that increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are good for the planet and dismissed his critics in the scientific community as “a bunch of thugs.”

This appear to mark the latest efforts by the White House to kneecap U.S. progress on climate science, which have included reversing Obama-era clean energy policies.


The Trump administration tried to bury the Fourth National Climate Assessment by releasing it the day after Thanksgiving in 2018.
That report concluded that global temperatures are “rising more rapidly than anything modern civilization has experienced” and that “this warming trend can only be explained by human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.”
But Trump and his allies dismissed the report’s findings.
“I don’t believe it,” Trump said at the time.

Trump Administration Removes Official Who Oversees National Climate Assessment

The White House is reportedly expected to replace Michael Kuperberg with climate-change skeptic David Legates.

www.huffpost.com

Oh my God. We may die from global warming before COVID.

You guys are an entirely different level of stupid than an average moron.

You don’t believe global warming is real or you don’t believe it’ll negatively affect humans? Which are you dumb or lying?

I don't believe it is caused by humans and I don't believe we can fix it and I don't believe we are going to die from it in the near future. Unlike many hack scientists, I don't get funding from leftists to reach certain convenient conclusions.

You’re not a scientist. You’re a conspiracy theorist who swallows what the corporate republican lobbyists have told you. That’s it. The rest of the world and half of America knows you’re fos

 

[sealybobo]

I wonder what Mark Esper didn't do for Trump that made Trump fire him? Secretary of Defense? Do we know?

Back in June Esper came out opposing the use of Federal Troops for domestic counterinsurgency purposes after Trump said he wanted to use them in Portland and other places. Esper said the situation did not warrant such use and troops could only be used in the most extreme circumstances.

Esper also continued working with the Republican-led Congressional armed forces committee that called for ending the wearing of Confederate badges and signs on uniforms and naming bases after Confederate generals.

Trump fires Defense Secretary Mark Esper

More worrisome perhaps is that talk is now re-emerging that Trump will also shortly fire his FBI and CIA directors for not expressing enough political support for him. This is an old issue as well, but why Trump might act now to take such actions is an interesting question:

“Questions are also swirling as to whether FBI Director Christopher Wray and CIA Director Gina Haspel will be ousted as well, as the president and his allies grow increasingly frustrated that the two top intelligence officials won’t wade into political matters.... The president has long made clear he values loyalty over everything else. He's pressured intelligence officials to become involved in investigations or make statements that would benefit him.”

Talk grows of Trump firings at Pentagon, CIA

So you plan to keep the hysteria meter at 10 through January 20, huh?

I have to admit, you people kept the hysterical tantrum going for the full four years. I thought you'd be tired by now

Not to mention they whined ten times more often in four short years over their butthurt on Trump being elected than Trump supporters did an entire 8 years when Obama was president. Im not even a trump supporter.I wanted gary johnson in office in 2016. I also wanted ron paul to get elected when those two globalist traiters Obama and Romney ran. I was cheer on the independent. Paul was a RINO.

,I did not vote for either one of those asswipes. when I did not get my wish and see Paul get the republican nomination,I accepted it and moved on. something the trump hater could never do for four years,just kept whining and whining he entire time instead of moving on. pathetic is an understatement.

Libertarians are just retarded republicans. I was up north with a libertarian this weekend. He was a huge trump supporter. Don’t pretend to not lean right dummy

Since you're stupid and all, we do lean right fiscally, no shit.

But we are liberal on social issues and military.

We want less government in our wallets.

We want less government in our bedrooms and in our bodies.

We want less government interfering in foreign affairs dictating policy with the military.

Can even someone as dumb as you pick up a pattern there?

Don't confuse liberal with left. They have nothing to do with each other. I'm a liberal, you're a leftist. I support free speech, free choice, doing whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on the same right in others.

You're an authoritarian leftist.

If I get my way, you are still free to make your own choices. If you get your way, my choices are ended.

Liberal and leftist have nothing to do with each other

Your choice to not be able to afford college or healthcare or to ever retire

Um ... what? That doesn't even make sense, government lackey. Maybe you should have saved instead of spending all your money your whole life on vacations and other crap and now you need government to pay your bills for you.

You think government flooding schools with money makes them CHEAPER?

You think government regulations over healthcare makes it CHEAPER?

You think you can't save for your own retirement?

Unbelievable, your balls are just in a jar on Nancy's mantle

Um, I do save, a lot. But I also make more than most people and have less bills than most. I don't know how the rest of you are doing it.

I wish Eastern, Western, Central and Northern Michigan University were all affordable colleges because of government support. That would keep the other colleges from charging too much. Michigan State, UofM, and all the other colleges can charge whatever they want. And the Eastern Western Northern Michigan's will also accept more students from low income areas.

You see, government can do great things that will never happen if libertarians are in charge.

I like some of what you guys say, but not enough to call myself a libertarian.

The rest of us? Yeah, brainiac. I don't want government handouts because I don't save anything. You want government handouts because you do. Democrats are just the lamest liars. You live paycheck to paycheck, be honest for once.

And you're an authoritarian leftist, you have nothing in common with libertarians. We believe in choice and diversity and freedom of speech.

And you still don't grasp this. Obviously you know nothing about money or business. Government drives UP the cost of colleges. Think about it, they flood it with free money. So schools don't focus on degrees where the students get good paying jobs. How many people do you know who majored in worthless degrees like psychology and English?

If government STOPPED flooding schools with all that cash, then schools and students would both become far more cost conscious and think about how they are going to pay for it.

Now they suddenly realize after they leave with a worthless degree and $100K in debt, it actually wasn't free.

GOVERNMENT did that

I don’t need handouts anymore. But you and I grew up with these programs and safety nets and social programs and I appreciate what those programs do for poor and middle class people.

But just because I no longer need doesn’t make me change into a greedy republican or ignorant libertarian.

I make almost $100k and have no debt, no kids. I’m rich. My brother makes over $500k. I’m white, straight, like guns, educated, man. If I was greedy Or racist I would be a republican.

I have great healthcare provided by my employer. What if I lose my job?

I want government to force healthcare companies to cover pre existing conditions.

Even my rich brother wants more affordable healthcare for everyone. He’s not greedy either.

Then why do you need government to do it for you? Why don't you take a crowbar to your own wallet and help people out yourself?

Charity is not an act that can be performed with other people's money.

And when government does it, they do it so badly. They drive UP the cost of medical care and health care. You pay yourself on the back when you actually didn't do anything and what you did actually fucked the people you claimed to want to help ... with other people's money ...

Yea yea we’ve heard this right wing argument over and over. Yes, you are forced to pay into a government program that everyone benefits from. Like public schools. I can’t fund this on my own. Together we can accomplish the goal. We are all in this together

We all benefit from government schools? That's hilarious. They are the worst performing schools in the west and the most costly in the world. They are terrible. There is nothing more anti-education than supporting government schools

You mean they are worse than socialist Canada’s schools?

 

[kaz]

I wonder what Mark Esper didn't do for Trump that made Trump fire him? Secretary of Defense? Do we know?

Back in June Esper came out opposing the use of Federal Troops for domestic counterinsurgency purposes after Trump said he wanted to use them in Portland and other places. Esper said the situation did not warrant such use and troops could only be used in the most extreme circumstances.

Esper also continued working with the Republican-led Congressional armed forces committee that called for ending the wearing of Confederate badges and signs on uniforms and naming bases after Confederate generals.

Trump fires Defense Secretary Mark Esper

More worrisome perhaps is that talk is now re-emerging that Trump will also shortly fire his FBI and CIA directors for not expressing enough political support for him. This is an old issue as well, but why Trump might act now to take such actions is an interesting question:

“Questions are also swirling as to whether FBI Director Christopher Wray and CIA Director Gina Haspel will be ousted as well, as the president and his allies grow increasingly frustrated that the two top intelligence officials won’t wade into political matters.... The president has long made clear he values loyalty over everything else. He's pressured intelligence officials to become involved in investigations or make statements that would benefit him.”

Talk grows of Trump firings at Pentagon, CIA

So you plan to keep the hysteria meter at 10 through January 20, huh?

I have to admit, you people kept the hysterical tantrum going for the full four years. I thought you'd be tired by now

Not to mention they whined ten times more often in four short years over their butthurt on Trump being elected than Trump supporters did an entire 8 years when Obama was president. Im not even a trump supporter.I wanted gary johnson in office in 2016. I also wanted ron paul to get elected when those two globalist traiters Obama and Romney ran. I was cheer on the independent. Paul was a RINO.

,I did not vote for either one of those asswipes. when I did not get my wish and see Paul get the republican nomination,I accepted it and moved on. something the trump hater could never do for four years,just kept whining and whining he entire time instead of moving on. pathetic is an understatement.

Libertarians are just retarded republicans. I was up north with a libertarian this weekend. He was a huge trump supporter. Don’t pretend to not lean right dummy

Since you're stupid and all, we do lean right fiscally, no shit.

But we are liberal on social issues and military.

We want less government in our wallets.

We want less government in our bedrooms and in our bodies.

We want less government interfering in foreign affairs dictating policy with the military.

Can even someone as dumb as you pick up a pattern there?

Don't confuse liberal with left. They have nothing to do with each other. I'm a liberal, you're a leftist. I support free speech, free choice, doing whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on the same right in others.

You're an authoritarian leftist.

If I get my way, you are still free to make your own choices. If you get your way, my choices are ended.

Liberal and leftist have nothing to do with each other

Your choice to not be able to afford college or healthcare or to ever retire

Um ... what? That doesn't even make sense, government lackey. Maybe you should have saved instead of spending all your money your whole life on vacations and other crap and now you need government to pay your bills for you.

You think government flooding schools with money makes them CHEAPER?

You think government regulations over healthcare makes it CHEAPER?

You think you can't save for your own retirement?

Unbelievable, your balls are just in a jar on Nancy's mantle

Um, I do save, a lot. But I also make more than most people and have less bills than most. I don't know how the rest of you are doing it.

I wish Eastern, Western, Central and Northern Michigan University were all affordable colleges because of government support. That would keep the other colleges from charging too much. Michigan State, UofM, and all the other colleges can charge whatever they want. And the Eastern Western Northern Michigan's will also accept more students from low income areas.

You see, government can do great things that will never happen if libertarians are in charge.

I like some of what you guys say, but not enough to call myself a libertarian.

The rest of us? Yeah, brainiac. I don't want government handouts because I don't save anything. You want government handouts because you do. Democrats are just the lamest liars. You live paycheck to paycheck, be honest for once.

And you're an authoritarian leftist, you have nothing in common with libertarians. We believe in choice and diversity and freedom of speech.

And you still don't grasp this. Obviously you know nothing about money or business. Government drives UP the cost of colleges. Think about it, they flood it with free money. So schools don't focus on degrees where the students get good paying jobs. How many people do you know who majored in worthless degrees like psychology and English?

If government STOPPED flooding schools with all that cash, then schools and students would both become far more cost conscious and think about how they are going to pay for it.

Now they suddenly realize after they leave with a worthless degree and $100K in debt, it actually wasn't free.

GOVERNMENT did that

I don’t need handouts anymore. But you and I grew up with these programs and safety nets and social programs and I appreciate what those programs do for poor and middle class people.

But just because I no longer need doesn’t make me change into a greedy republican or ignorant libertarian.

I make almost $100k and have no debt, no kids. I’m rich. My brother makes over $500k. I’m white, straight, like guns, educated, man. If I was greedy Or racist I would be a republican.

I have great healthcare provided by my employer. What if I lose my job?

I want government to force healthcare companies to cover pre existing conditions.

Even my rich brother wants more affordable healthcare for everyone. He’s not greedy either.

your not greedy?...in half your posts you talk about how much money you make and how much better you have it then everyone else....and your not racist?....i can remember your posts were you were bad mouthing poor blacks living in the ghettos......give us a break bobo....

We are all a little racist. But I want diversity programs to help fight systemic racism. You deny systemic racism. Is it because you are racist you deny?

No, the racist is just you

 

[sealybobo]

I make almost $100k and have no debt, no kids. I’m rich.

LOL...Rich? Good Lord man. Unless you have a whole bunch of money in the bank, you aren't even close to being rich with that salary.

No debt, no kids. I save probably $40,000 a year not including I max out my 401k.

Most likely I’m richer than you even if you make more because you have a mortgage or children.

 

[sealybobo]

Something tells me it will be unique, unfortuately.

Trump Administration Removes Official Who Oversees National Climate Assessment
The White House is reportedly expected to replace Michael Kuperberg with climate-change skeptic David Legates.

Why would he do this with only 73 days left? What will this Legates do in 73 days?

Legates has falsely claimed, among other things, that increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are good for the planet and dismissed his critics in the scientific community as “a bunch of thugs.”

This appear to mark the latest efforts by the White House to kneecap U.S. progress on climate science, which have included reversing Obama-era clean energy policies.


The Trump administration tried to bury the Fourth National Climate Assessment by releasing it the day after Thanksgiving in 2018.
That report concluded that global temperatures are “rising more rapidly than anything modern civilization has experienced” and that “this warming trend can only be explained by human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.”
But Trump and his allies dismissed the report’s findings.
“I don’t believe it,” Trump said at the time.

Trump Administration Removes Official Who Oversees National Climate Assessment

The White House is reportedly expected to replace Michael Kuperberg with climate-change skeptic David Legates.

www.huffpost.com

Democrats don't believe climate change is real. There are two things we could do today that would have a dramatic impact on carbon emissions without harming our economy ... and you oppose both.

You do want single payer healthcare, universal minimum income, payments to illegal aliens and voter fraud schemes to fight ... global warming.

No, it's not the green new deal, it's the red new deal

Republicans don't believe in climate change

The Trump administration tried to bury the Fourth National Climate Assessment by releasing it the day after Thanksgiving in 2018.
That report concluded that global temperatures are “rising more rapidly than anything modern civilization has experienced” and that “this warming trend can only be explained by human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.”
But Trump and his allies dismissed the report’s findings.
“I don’t believe it,” Trump said at the time.

This is why Trump lost. Or one of the reasons. Denying science? We can't have a conspiracy theorist running the country.

Republicans aren't the ones running around screaming we're all going to die. That's you idiots

No that was trumps scientific teams findings and trump said he doesn’t believe. It was 75 degrees yesterday

You're the ones running around screaming we're all going to die and you're the ones who OPPOSE the only two solutions we have today, nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Trump supports both of those. No matter how much butt hurt you want to keep wallowing in over what Trump says, he supports green policies and you oppose them. That's just a fact

What are the two things republicans want to do about man made climate change?

And when did you guys stop denying man made climate change?

 

[kaz]

I wonder what Mark Esper didn't do for Trump that made Trump fire him? Secretary of Defense? Do we know?

Back in June Esper came out opposing the use of Federal Troops for domestic counterinsurgency purposes after Trump said he wanted to use them in Portland and other places. Esper said the situation did not warrant such use and troops could only be used in the most extreme circumstances.

Esper also continued working with the Republican-led Congressional armed forces committee that called for ending the wearing of Confederate badges and signs on uniforms and naming bases after Confederate generals.

Trump fires Defense Secretary Mark Esper

More worrisome perhaps is that talk is now re-emerging that Trump will also shortly fire his FBI and CIA directors for not expressing enough political support for him. This is an old issue as well, but why Trump might act now to take such actions is an interesting question:

“Questions are also swirling as to whether FBI Director Christopher Wray and CIA Director Gina Haspel will be ousted as well, as the president and his allies grow increasingly frustrated that the two top intelligence officials won’t wade into political matters.... The president has long made clear he values loyalty over everything else. He's pressured intelligence officials to become involved in investigations or make statements that would benefit him.”

Talk grows of Trump firings at Pentagon, CIA

So you plan to keep the hysteria meter at 10 through January 20, huh?

I have to admit, you people kept the hysterical tantrum going for the full four years. I thought you'd be tired by now

Not to mention they whined ten times more often in four short years over their butthurt on Trump being elected than Trump supporters did an entire 8 years when Obama was president. Im not even a trump supporter.I wanted gary johnson in office in 2016. I also wanted ron paul to get elected when those two globalist traiters Obama and Romney ran. I was cheer on the independent. Paul was a RINO.

,I did not vote for either one of those asswipes. when I did not get my wish and see Paul get the republican nomination,I accepted it and moved on. something the trump hater could never do for four years,just kept whining and whining he entire time instead of moving on. pathetic is an understatement.

Libertarians are just retarded republicans. I was up north with a libertarian this weekend. He was a huge trump supporter. Don’t pretend to not lean right dummy

Since you're stupid and all, we do lean right fiscally, no shit.

But we are liberal on social issues and military.

We want less government in our wallets.

We want less government in our bedrooms and in our bodies.

We want less government interfering in foreign affairs dictating policy with the military.

Can even someone as dumb as you pick up a pattern there?

Don't confuse liberal with left. They have nothing to do with each other. I'm a liberal, you're a leftist. I support free speech, free choice, doing whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on the same right in others.

You're an authoritarian leftist.

If I get my way, you are still free to make your own choices. If you get your way, my choices are ended.

Liberal and leftist have nothing to do with each other

Your choice to not be able to afford college or healthcare or to ever retire

Um ... what? That doesn't even make sense, government lackey. Maybe you should have saved instead of spending all your money your whole life on vacations and other crap and now you need government to pay your bills for you.

You think government flooding schools with money makes them CHEAPER?

You think government regulations over healthcare makes it CHEAPER?

You think you can't save for your own retirement?

Unbelievable, your balls are just in a jar on Nancy's mantle

Um, I do save, a lot. But I also make more than most people and have less bills than most. I don't know how the rest of you are doing it.

I wish Eastern, Western, Central and Northern Michigan University were all affordable colleges because of government support. That would keep the other colleges from charging too much. Michigan State, UofM, and all the other colleges can charge whatever they want. And the Eastern Western Northern Michigan's will also accept more students from low income areas.

You see, government can do great things that will never happen if libertarians are in charge.

I like some of what you guys say, but not enough to call myself a libertarian.

The rest of us? Yeah, brainiac. I don't want government handouts because I don't save anything. You want government handouts because you do. Democrats are just the lamest liars. You live paycheck to paycheck, be honest for once.

And you're an authoritarian leftist, you have nothing in common with libertarians. We believe in choice and diversity and freedom of speech.

And you still don't grasp this. Obviously you know nothing about money or business. Government drives UP the cost of colleges. Think about it, they flood it with free money. So schools don't focus on degrees where the students get good paying jobs. How many people do you know who majored in worthless degrees like psychology and English?

If government STOPPED flooding schools with all that cash, then schools and students would both become far more cost conscious and think about how they are going to pay for it.

Now they suddenly realize after they leave with a worthless degree and $100K in debt, it actually wasn't free.

GOVERNMENT did that

I don’t need handouts anymore. But you and I grew up with these programs and safety nets and social programs and I appreciate what those programs do for poor and middle class people.

But just because I no longer need doesn’t make me change into a greedy republican or ignorant libertarian.

I make almost $100k and have no debt, no kids. I’m rich. My brother makes over $500k. I’m white, straight, like guns, educated, man. If I was greedy Or racist I would be a republican.

I have great healthcare provided by my employer. What if I lose my job?

I want government to force healthcare companies to cover pre existing conditions.

Even my rich brother wants more affordable healthcare for everyone. He’s not greedy either.

Then why do you need government to do it for you? Why don't you take a crowbar to your own wallet and help people out yourself?

Charity is not an act that can be performed with other people's money.

And when government does it, they do it so badly. They drive UP the cost of medical care and health care. You pay yourself on the back when you actually didn't do anything and what you did actually fucked the people you claimed to want to help ... with other people's money ...

Yea yea we’ve heard this right wing argument over and over. Yes, you are forced to pay into a government program that everyone benefits from. Like public schools. I can’t fund this on my own. Together we can accomplish the goal. We are all in this together

We all benefit from government schools? That's hilarious. They are the worst performing schools in the west and the most costly in the world. They are terrible. There is nothing more anti-education than supporting government schools

You mean they are worse than socialist Canada’s schools?

Irrelevant question. You have no logical ability at all. I'm not trying to deal with Canadian schools. Though dragonlady is no testament to Canadian government schools being worth a crap.

I was talking about US government schools. They are as we all know the worst in the west and most expensive in the world. Canadian government schools are irrelevant to that.

Why are our government schools such a failure? That's the question to address

 

[kaz]

Something tells me it will be unique, unfortuately.

Trump Administration Removes Official Who Oversees National Climate Assessment
The White House is reportedly expected to replace Michael Kuperberg with climate-change skeptic David Legates.

Why would he do this with only 73 days left? What will this Legates do in 73 days?

Legates has falsely claimed, among other things, that increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are good for the planet and dismissed his critics in the scientific community as “a bunch of thugs.”

This appear to mark the latest efforts by the White House to kneecap U.S. progress on climate science, which have included reversing Obama-era clean energy policies.


The Trump administration tried to bury the Fourth National Climate Assessment by releasing it the day after Thanksgiving in 2018.
That report concluded that global temperatures are “rising more rapidly than anything modern civilization has experienced” and that “this warming trend can only be explained by human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.”
But Trump and his allies dismissed the report’s findings.
“I don’t believe it,” Trump said at the time.

Trump Administration Removes Official Who Oversees National Climate Assessment

The White House is reportedly expected to replace Michael Kuperberg with climate-change skeptic David Legates.

www.huffpost.com

Democrats don't believe climate change is real. There are two things we could do today that would have a dramatic impact on carbon emissions without harming our economy ... and you oppose both.

You do want single payer healthcare, universal minimum income, payments to illegal aliens and voter fraud schemes to fight ... global warming.

No, it's not the green new deal, it's the red new deal

Republicans don't believe in climate change

The Trump administration tried to bury the Fourth National Climate Assessment by releasing it the day after Thanksgiving in 2018.
That report concluded that global temperatures are “rising more rapidly than anything modern civilization has experienced” and that “this warming trend can only be explained by human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.”
But Trump and his allies dismissed the report’s findings.
“I don’t believe it,” Trump said at the time.

This is why Trump lost. Or one of the reasons. Denying science? We can't have a conspiracy theorist running the country.

Republicans aren't the ones running around screaming we're all going to die. That's you idiots

No that was trumps scientific teams findings and trump said he doesn’t believe. It was 75 degrees yesterday

You're the ones running around screaming we're all going to die and you're the ones who OPPOSE the only two solutions we have today, nuclear power and fracking for natural gas.

Trump supports both of those. No matter how much butt hurt you want to keep wallowing in over what Trump says, he supports green policies and you oppose them. That's just a fact

What are the two things republicans want to do about man made climate change?

And when did you guys stop denying man made climate change?

I answered that question literally in the post you were responding to, government educated failure

 

[kaz]

I make almost $100k and have no debt, no kids. I’m rich.

LOL...Rich? Good Lord man. Unless you have a whole bunch of money in the bank, you aren't even close to being rich with that salary.

No debt, no kids. I save probably $40,000 a year not including I max out my 401k.

Most likely I’m richer than you even if you make more because you have a mortgage or children.

Meeting a rich leftist on the Internet is like finding sand on the beach. You're all rich as shit and don't donate to charity. So you want government to do it for you. Blah, blah, talk to every other leftists who tells the same lame story. You sure are obsessed with money

 

[Harry Dresden]

I wonder what Mark Esper didn't do for Trump that made Trump fire him? Secretary of Defense? Do we know?

Back in June Esper came out opposing the use of Federal Troops for domestic counterinsurgency purposes after Trump said he wanted to use them in Portland and other places. Esper said the situation did not warrant such use and troops could only be used in the most extreme circumstances.

Esper also continued working with the Republican-led Congressional armed forces committee that called for ending the wearing of Confederate badges and signs on uniforms and naming bases after Confederate generals.

Trump fires Defense Secretary Mark Esper

More worrisome perhaps is that talk is now re-emerging that Trump will also shortly fire his FBI and CIA directors for not expressing enough political support for him. This is an old issue as well, but why Trump might act now to take such actions is an interesting question:

“Questions are also swirling as to whether FBI Director Christopher Wray and CIA Director Gina Haspel will be ousted as well, as the president and his allies grow increasingly frustrated that the two top intelligence officials won’t wade into political matters.... The president has long made clear he values loyalty over everything else. He's pressured intelligence officials to become involved in investigations or make statements that would benefit him.”

Talk grows of Trump firings at Pentagon, CIA

So you plan to keep the hysteria meter at 10 through January 20, huh?

I have to admit, you people kept the hysterical tantrum going for the full four years. I thought you'd be tired by now

Not to mention they whined ten times more often in four short years over their butthurt on Trump being elected than Trump supporters did an entire 8 years when Obama was president. Im not even a trump supporter.I wanted gary johnson in office in 2016. I also wanted ron paul to get elected when those two globalist traiters Obama and Romney ran. I was cheer on the independent. Paul was a RINO.

,I did not vote for either one of those asswipes. when I did not get my wish and see Paul get the republican nomination,I accepted it and moved on. something the trump hater could never do for four years,just kept whining and whining he entire time instead of moving on. pathetic is an understatement.

Libertarians are just retarded republicans. I was up north with a libertarian this weekend. He was a huge trump supporter. Don’t pretend to not lean right dummy

Since you're stupid and all, we do lean right fiscally, no shit.

But we are liberal on social issues and military.

We want less government in our wallets.

We want less government in our bedrooms and in our bodies.

We want less government interfering in foreign affairs dictating policy with the military.

Can even someone as dumb as you pick up a pattern there?

Don't confuse liberal with left. They have nothing to do with each other. I'm a liberal, you're a leftist. I support free speech, free choice, doing whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on the same right in others.

You're an authoritarian leftist.

If I get my way, you are still free to make your own choices. If you get your way, my choices are ended.

Liberal and leftist have nothing to do with each other

Your choice to not be able to afford college or healthcare or to ever retire

Um ... what? That doesn't even make sense, government lackey. Maybe you should have saved instead of spending all your money your whole life on vacations and other crap and now you need government to pay your bills for you.

You think government flooding schools with money makes them CHEAPER?

You think government regulations over healthcare makes it CHEAPER?

You think you can't save for your own retirement?

Unbelievable, your balls are just in a jar on Nancy's mantle

Um, I do save, a lot. But I also make more than most people and have less bills than most. I don't know how the rest of you are doing it.

I wish Eastern, Western, Central and Northern Michigan University were all affordable colleges because of government support. That would keep the other colleges from charging too much. Michigan State, UofM, and all the other colleges can charge whatever they want. And the Eastern Western Northern Michigan's will also accept more students from low income areas.

You see, government can do great things that will never happen if libertarians are in charge.

I like some of what you guys say, but not enough to call myself a libertarian.

The rest of us? Yeah, brainiac. I don't want government handouts because I don't save anything. You want government handouts because you do. Democrats are just the lamest liars. You live paycheck to paycheck, be honest for once.

And you're an authoritarian leftist, you have nothing in common with libertarians. We believe in choice and diversity and freedom of speech.

And you still don't grasp this. Obviously you know nothing about money or business. Government drives UP the cost of colleges. Think about it, they flood it with free money. So schools don't focus on degrees where the students get good paying jobs. How many people do you know who majored in worthless degrees like psychology and English?

If government STOPPED flooding schools with all that cash, then schools and students would both become far more cost conscious and think about how they are going to pay for it.

Now they suddenly realize after they leave with a worthless degree and $100K in debt, it actually wasn't free.

GOVERNMENT did that

I don’t need handouts anymore. But you and I grew up with these programs and safety nets and social programs and I appreciate what those programs do for poor and middle class people.

But just because I no longer need doesn’t make me change into a greedy republican or ignorant libertarian.

I make almost $100k and have no debt, no kids. I’m rich. My brother makes over $500k. I’m white, straight, like guns, educated, man. If I was greedy Or racist I would be a republican.

I have great healthcare provided by my employer. What if I lose my job?

I want government to force healthcare companies to cover pre existing conditions.

Even my rich brother wants more affordable healthcare for everyone. He’s not greedy either.

your not greedy?...in half your posts you talk about how much money you make and how much better you have it then everyone else....and your not racist?....i can remember your posts were you were bad mouthing poor blacks living in the ghettos......give us a break bobo....

We are all a little racist. But I want diversity programs to help fight systemic racism. You deny systemic racism. Is it because you are racist you deny?

this is something you are really good at doing.....accusing somebody of something you cant back up....i have black blood in me and 3 black guys in the family....and you will never find a post of mine bad mouthing poor blacks like you did......you are no better than those "republicans" you bad mouth....

 

[Lesh]

What will Trump do?

Like the over grown spoiled child he is...kick his toys and break everything in sight

 

[bottlecap]

My guess is, he will be preparing for his 2nd term!

Once various courts demand a recount because of vote fraud,
the true result, UNDER CLOSE SUPERVISION, will come out.

You’ll see trump doesn’t have a case. He has less of a case than gore did in 2000

TRUMP has a vey clear path to the White House....Flip Arizona or Nevada + Pennsylvania and Georgia and he is reelected. MASSIVE FRAUD 450,000 ballots with only Biden voted for,

sidney powell 450,000 votes biden only - Bing video

www.bing.com

 

[L.K.Eder]

Ezekial Manuel is Rahm's brother. He is on record of having people 74 or older not having medical care anymore. And he is going to work for Biden.

Not that our resident lefties care, but here is an interview with this nut bag. If he was in charge of our healthcare, I can assure you that you wouldn't get anything after 74. But Democrats are pretty dumb and naive so probably don't care.

A doctor and medical ethicist argues life after 75 is not worth living

isn't that totally in line with trump's covid "strategy". it is what it is.

 

[Orangecat]

What will Trump do the next 74 days?
Frustrate libtards.

 

[kaz]

What will Trump do?

Like the over grown spoiled child he is...kick his toys and break everything in sight

You're the one having the tantrum

 

[Mac1958]

Something tells me it will be unique, unfortuately.

Trump Administration Removes Official Who Oversees National Climate Assessment
The White House is reportedly expected to replace Michael Kuperberg with climate-change skeptic David Legates.

Why would he do this with only 73 days left? What will this Legates do in 73 days?

Legates has falsely claimed, among other things, that increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are good for the planet and dismissed his critics in the scientific community as “a bunch of thugs.”

This appear to mark the latest efforts by the White House to kneecap U.S. progress on climate science, which have included reversing Obama-era clean energy policies.


The Trump administration tried to bury the Fourth National Climate Assessment by releasing it the day after Thanksgiving in 2018.
That report concluded that global temperatures are “rising more rapidly than anything modern civilization has experienced” and that “this warming trend can only be explained by human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.”
But Trump and his allies dismissed the report’s findings.
“I don’t believe it,” Trump said at the time.

Trump Administration Removes Official Who Oversees National Climate Assessment

The White House is reportedly expected to replace Michael Kuperberg with climate-change skeptic David Legates.

www.huffpost.com

This is amazing.

It's a really bad time. The lunatics really have taken over the asylum.

This exposes the problem we have with the sitting president being a lame duck but pulling bullshit for the last 75 days of his presidency. Pardoning people, executive orders, etc. Trump will do much damage before he leaves and this thread is going to expose all that he does. I promise it will be daily new things that Trump has done that's bad/wrong/shady.

And he has a large portion of the country who will support him.

These people would rather see the country fall apart than see it change in a way they don't like.

 

[Harry Dresden]

Something tells me it will be unique, unfortuately.

Trump Administration Removes Official Who Oversees National Climate Assessment
The White House is reportedly expected to replace Michael Kuperberg with climate-change skeptic David Legates.

Why would he do this with only 73 days left? What will this Legates do in 73 days?

Legates has falsely claimed, among other things, that increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are good for the planet and dismissed his critics in the scientific community as “a bunch of thugs.”

This appear to mark the latest efforts by the White House to kneecap U.S. progress on climate science, which have included reversing Obama-era clean energy policies.


The Trump administration tried to bury the Fourth National Climate Assessment by releasing it the day after Thanksgiving in 2018.
That report concluded that global temperatures are “rising more rapidly than anything modern civilization has experienced” and that “this warming trend can only be explained by human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.”
But Trump and his allies dismissed the report’s findings.
“I don’t believe it,” Trump said at the time.

Trump Administration Removes Official Who Oversees National Climate Assessment

The White House is reportedly expected to replace Michael Kuperberg with climate-change skeptic David Legates.

www.huffpost.com

This is amazing.

It's a really bad time. The lunatics really have taken over the asylum.

This exposes the problem we have with the sitting president being a lame duck but pulling bullshit for the last 75 days of his presidency. Pardoning people, executive orders, etc. Trump will do much damage before he leaves and this thread is going to expose all that he does. I promise it will be daily new things that Trump has done that's bad/wrong/shady.

And he has a large portion of the country who will support him.

These people would rather see the country fall apart than see it change in a way they don't like.

the democrats are the same way.....

 

[kaz]

Something tells me it will be unique, unfortuately.

Trump Administration Removes Official Who Oversees National Climate Assessment
The White House is reportedly expected to replace Michael Kuperberg with climate-change skeptic David Legates.

Why would he do this with only 73 days left? What will this Legates do in 73 days?

Legates has falsely claimed, among other things, that increased levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere are good for the planet and dismissed his critics in the scientific community as “a bunch of thugs.”

This appear to mark the latest efforts by the White House to kneecap U.S. progress on climate science, which have included reversing Obama-era clean energy policies.


The Trump administration tried to bury the Fourth National Climate Assessment by releasing it the day after Thanksgiving in 2018.
That report concluded that global temperatures are “rising more rapidly than anything modern civilization has experienced” and that “this warming trend can only be explained by human activities, especially emissions of greenhouse gases into the atmosphere.”
But Trump and his allies dismissed the report’s findings.
“I don’t believe it,” Trump said at the time.

Trump Administration Removes Official Who Oversees National Climate Assessment

The White House is reportedly expected to replace Michael Kuperberg with climate-change skeptic David Legates.

www.huffpost.com

This is amazing.

It's a really bad time. The lunatics really have taken over the asylum.

This exposes the problem we have with the sitting president being a lame duck but pulling bullshit for the last 75 days of his presidency. Pardoning people, executive orders, etc. Trump will do much damage before he leaves and this thread is going to expose all that he does. I promise it will be daily new things that Trump has done that's bad/wrong/shady.

And he has a large portion of the country who will support him.

These people would rather see the country fall apart than see it change in a way they don't like.

Mac slams Trump supporters, humps a leftist's leg.

You really are the board spammer. Content, non existent and you write the same post over and over.

Just makes you feel warm being on a team, huh?

 

[sealybobo]

I wonder what Mark Esper didn't do for Trump that made Trump fire him? Secretary of Defense? Do we know?

Back in June Esper came out opposing the use of Federal Troops for domestic counterinsurgency purposes after Trump said he wanted to use them in Portland and other places. Esper said the situation did not warrant such use and troops could only be used in the most extreme circumstances.

Esper also continued working with the Republican-led Congressional armed forces committee that called for ending the wearing of Confederate badges and signs on uniforms and naming bases after Confederate generals.

Trump fires Defense Secretary Mark Esper

More worrisome perhaps is that talk is now re-emerging that Trump will also shortly fire his FBI and CIA directors for not expressing enough political support for him. This is an old issue as well, but why Trump might act now to take such actions is an interesting question:

“Questions are also swirling as to whether FBI Director Christopher Wray and CIA Director Gina Haspel will be ousted as well, as the president and his allies grow increasingly frustrated that the two top intelligence officials won’t wade into political matters.... The president has long made clear he values loyalty over everything else. He's pressured intelligence officials to become involved in investigations or make statements that would benefit him.”

Talk grows of Trump firings at Pentagon, CIA

So you plan to keep the hysteria meter at 10 through January 20, huh?

I have to admit, you people kept the hysterical tantrum going for the full four years. I thought you'd be tired by now

Not to mention they whined ten times more often in four short years over their butthurt on Trump being elected than Trump supporters did an entire 8 years when Obama was president. Im not even a trump supporter.I wanted gary johnson in office in 2016. I also wanted ron paul to get elected when those two globalist traiters Obama and Romney ran. I was cheer on the independent. Paul was a RINO.

,I did not vote for either one of those asswipes. when I did not get my wish and see Paul get the republican nomination,I accepted it and moved on. something the trump hater could never do for four years,just kept whining and whining he entire time instead of moving on. pathetic is an understatement.

Libertarians are just retarded republicans. I was up north with a libertarian this weekend. He was a huge trump supporter. Don’t pretend to not lean right dummy

Since you're stupid and all, we do lean right fiscally, no shit.

But we are liberal on social issues and military.

We want less government in our wallets.

We want less government in our bedrooms and in our bodies.

We want less government interfering in foreign affairs dictating policy with the military.

Can even someone as dumb as you pick up a pattern there?

Don't confuse liberal with left. They have nothing to do with each other. I'm a liberal, you're a leftist. I support free speech, free choice, doing whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on the same right in others.

You're an authoritarian leftist.

If I get my way, you are still free to make your own choices. If you get your way, my choices are ended.

Liberal and leftist have nothing to do with each other

Your choice to not be able to afford college or healthcare or to ever retire

Um ... what? That doesn't even make sense, government lackey. Maybe you should have saved instead of spending all your money your whole life on vacations and other crap and now you need government to pay your bills for you.

You think government flooding schools with money makes them CHEAPER?

You think government regulations over healthcare makes it CHEAPER?

You think you can't save for your own retirement?

Unbelievable, your balls are just in a jar on Nancy's mantle

Um, I do save, a lot. But I also make more than most people and have less bills than most. I don't know how the rest of you are doing it.

I wish Eastern, Western, Central and Northern Michigan University were all affordable colleges because of government support. That would keep the other colleges from charging too much. Michigan State, UofM, and all the other colleges can charge whatever they want. And the Eastern Western Northern Michigan's will also accept more students from low income areas.

You see, government can do great things that will never happen if libertarians are in charge.

I like some of what you guys say, but not enough to call myself a libertarian.

The rest of us? Yeah, brainiac. I don't want government handouts because I don't save anything. You want government handouts because you do. Democrats are just the lamest liars. You live paycheck to paycheck, be honest for once.

And you're an authoritarian leftist, you have nothing in common with libertarians. We believe in choice and diversity and freedom of speech.

And you still don't grasp this. Obviously you know nothing about money or business. Government drives UP the cost of colleges. Think about it, they flood it with free money. So schools don't focus on degrees where the students get good paying jobs. How many people do you know who majored in worthless degrees like psychology and English?

If government STOPPED flooding schools with all that cash, then schools and students would both become far more cost conscious and think about how they are going to pay for it.

Now they suddenly realize after they leave with a worthless degree and $100K in debt, it actually wasn't free.

GOVERNMENT did that

I don’t need handouts anymore. But you and I grew up with these programs and safety nets and social programs and I appreciate what those programs do for poor and middle class people.

But just because I no longer need doesn’t make me change into a greedy republican or ignorant libertarian.

I make almost $100k and have no debt, no kids. I’m rich. My brother makes over $500k. I’m white, straight, like guns, educated, man. If I was greedy Or racist I would be a republican.

I have great healthcare provided by my employer. What if I lose my job?

I want government to force healthcare companies to cover pre existing conditions.

Even my rich brother wants more affordable healthcare for everyone. He’s not greedy either.

Then why do you need government to do it for you? Why don't you take a crowbar to your own wallet and help people out yourself?

Charity is not an act that can be performed with other people's money.

And when government does it, they do it so badly. They drive UP the cost of medical care and health care. You pay yourself on the back when you actually didn't do anything and what you did actually fucked the people you claimed to want to help ... with other people's money ...

Yea yea we’ve heard this right wing argument over and over. Yes, you are forced to pay into a government program that everyone benefits from. Like public schools. I can’t fund this on my own. Together we can accomplish the goal. We are all in this together

We all benefit from government schools? That's hilarious. They are the worst performing schools in the west and the most costly in the world. They are terrible. There is nothing more anti-education than supporting government schools

You mean they are worse than socialist Canada’s schools?

Irrelevant question. You have no logical ability at all. I'm not trying to deal with Canadian schools. Though dragonlady is no testament to Canadian government schools being worth a crap.

I was talking about US government schools. They are as we all know the worst in the west and most expensive in the world. Canadian government schools are irrelevant to that.

Why are our government schools such a failure? That's the question to address

What other "western" schools are you referring to then? Private schools?

 

[kaz]

I wonder what Mark Esper didn't do for Trump that made Trump fire him? Secretary of Defense? Do we know?

Back in June Esper came out opposing the use of Federal Troops for domestic counterinsurgency purposes after Trump said he wanted to use them in Portland and other places. Esper said the situation did not warrant such use and troops could only be used in the most extreme circumstances.

Esper also continued working with the Republican-led Congressional armed forces committee that called for ending the wearing of Confederate badges and signs on uniforms and naming bases after Confederate generals.

Trump fires Defense Secretary Mark Esper

More worrisome perhaps is that talk is now re-emerging that Trump will also shortly fire his FBI and CIA directors for not expressing enough political support for him. This is an old issue as well, but why Trump might act now to take such actions is an interesting question:

“Questions are also swirling as to whether FBI Director Christopher Wray and CIA Director Gina Haspel will be ousted as well, as the president and his allies grow increasingly frustrated that the two top intelligence officials won’t wade into political matters.... The president has long made clear he values loyalty over everything else. He's pressured intelligence officials to become involved in investigations or make statements that would benefit him.”

Talk grows of Trump firings at Pentagon, CIA

So you plan to keep the hysteria meter at 10 through January 20, huh?

I have to admit, you people kept the hysterical tantrum going for the full four years. I thought you'd be tired by now

Not to mention they whined ten times more often in four short years over their butthurt on Trump being elected than Trump supporters did an entire 8 years when Obama was president. Im not even a trump supporter.I wanted gary johnson in office in 2016. I also wanted ron paul to get elected when those two globalist traiters Obama and Romney ran. I was cheer on the independent. Paul was a RINO.

,I did not vote for either one of those asswipes. when I did not get my wish and see Paul get the republican nomination,I accepted it and moved on. something the trump hater could never do for four years,just kept whining and whining he entire time instead of moving on. pathetic is an understatement.

Libertarians are just retarded republicans. I was up north with a libertarian this weekend. He was a huge trump supporter. Don’t pretend to not lean right dummy

Since you're stupid and all, we do lean right fiscally, no shit.

But we are liberal on social issues and military.

We want less government in our wallets.

We want less government in our bedrooms and in our bodies.

We want less government interfering in foreign affairs dictating policy with the military.

Can even someone as dumb as you pick up a pattern there?

Don't confuse liberal with left. They have nothing to do with each other. I'm a liberal, you're a leftist. I support free speech, free choice, doing whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on the same right in others.

You're an authoritarian leftist.

If I get my way, you are still free to make your own choices. If you get your way, my choices are ended.

Liberal and leftist have nothing to do with each other

Your choice to not be able to afford college or healthcare or to ever retire

Um ... what? That doesn't even make sense, government lackey. Maybe you should have saved instead of spending all your money your whole life on vacations and other crap and now you need government to pay your bills for you.

You think government flooding schools with money makes them CHEAPER?

You think government regulations over healthcare makes it CHEAPER?

You think you can't save for your own retirement?

Unbelievable, your balls are just in a jar on Nancy's mantle

Um, I do save, a lot. But I also make more than most people and have less bills than most. I don't know how the rest of you are doing it.

I wish Eastern, Western, Central and Northern Michigan University were all affordable colleges because of government support. That would keep the other colleges from charging too much. Michigan State, UofM, and all the other colleges can charge whatever they want. And the Eastern Western Northern Michigan's will also accept more students from low income areas.

You see, government can do great things that will never happen if libertarians are in charge.

I like some of what you guys say, but not enough to call myself a libertarian.

The rest of us? Yeah, brainiac. I don't want government handouts because I don't save anything. You want government handouts because you do. Democrats are just the lamest liars. You live paycheck to paycheck, be honest for once.

And you're an authoritarian leftist, you have nothing in common with libertarians. We believe in choice and diversity and freedom of speech.

And you still don't grasp this. Obviously you know nothing about money or business. Government drives UP the cost of colleges. Think about it, they flood it with free money. So schools don't focus on degrees where the students get good paying jobs. How many people do you know who majored in worthless degrees like psychology and English?

If government STOPPED flooding schools with all that cash, then schools and students would both become far more cost conscious and think about how they are going to pay for it.

Now they suddenly realize after they leave with a worthless degree and $100K in debt, it actually wasn't free.

GOVERNMENT did that

I don’t need handouts anymore. But you and I grew up with these programs and safety nets and social programs and I appreciate what those programs do for poor and middle class people.

But just because I no longer need doesn’t make me change into a greedy republican or ignorant libertarian.

I make almost $100k and have no debt, no kids. I’m rich. My brother makes over $500k. I’m white, straight, like guns, educated, man. If I was greedy Or racist I would be a republican.

I have great healthcare provided by my employer. What if I lose my job?

I want government to force healthcare companies to cover pre existing conditions.

Even my rich brother wants more affordable healthcare for everyone. He’s not greedy either.

Then why do you need government to do it for you? Why don't you take a crowbar to your own wallet and help people out yourself?

Charity is not an act that can be performed with other people's money.

And when government does it, they do it so badly. They drive UP the cost of medical care and health care. You pay yourself on the back when you actually didn't do anything and what you did actually fucked the people you claimed to want to help ... with other people's money ...

Yea yea we’ve heard this right wing argument over and over. Yes, you are forced to pay into a government program that everyone benefits from. Like public schools. I can’t fund this on my own. Together we can accomplish the goal. We are all in this together

We all benefit from government schools? That's hilarious. They are the worst performing schools in the west and the most costly in the world. They are terrible. There is nothing more anti-education than supporting government schools

You mean they are worse than socialist Canada’s schools?

Irrelevant question. You have no logical ability at all. I'm not trying to deal with Canadian schools. Though dragonlady is no testament to Canadian government schools being worth a crap.

I was talking about US government schools. They are as we all know the worst in the west and most expensive in the world. Canadian government schools are irrelevant to that.

Why are our government schools such a failure? That's the question to address

What other "western" schools are you referring to then? Private schools?

Western world - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You thought the West was just the US and Canada? Wow. Here you go, government educated failure

 

[sealybobo]

I wonder what Mark Esper didn't do for Trump that made Trump fire him? Secretary of Defense? Do we know?

Back in June Esper came out opposing the use of Federal Troops for domestic counterinsurgency purposes after Trump said he wanted to use them in Portland and other places. Esper said the situation did not warrant such use and troops could only be used in the most extreme circumstances.

Esper also continued working with the Republican-led Congressional armed forces committee that called for ending the wearing of Confederate badges and signs on uniforms and naming bases after Confederate generals.

Trump fires Defense Secretary Mark Esper

More worrisome perhaps is that talk is now re-emerging that Trump will also shortly fire his FBI and CIA directors for not expressing enough political support for him. This is an old issue as well, but why Trump might act now to take such actions is an interesting question:

“Questions are also swirling as to whether FBI Director Christopher Wray and CIA Director Gina Haspel will be ousted as well, as the president and his allies grow increasingly frustrated that the two top intelligence officials won’t wade into political matters.... The president has long made clear he values loyalty over everything else. He's pressured intelligence officials to become involved in investigations or make statements that would benefit him.”

Talk grows of Trump firings at Pentagon, CIA

So you plan to keep the hysteria meter at 10 through January 20, huh?

I have to admit, you people kept the hysterical tantrum going for the full four years. I thought you'd be tired by now

Not to mention they whined ten times more often in four short years over their butthurt on Trump being elected than Trump supporters did an entire 8 years when Obama was president. Im not even a trump supporter.I wanted gary johnson in office in 2016. I also wanted ron paul to get elected when those two globalist traiters Obama and Romney ran. I was cheer on the independent. Paul was a RINO.

,I did not vote for either one of those asswipes. when I did not get my wish and see Paul get the republican nomination,I accepted it and moved on. something the trump hater could never do for four years,just kept whining and whining he entire time instead of moving on. pathetic is an understatement.

Libertarians are just retarded republicans. I was up north with a libertarian this weekend. He was a huge trump supporter. Don’t pretend to not lean right dummy

Since you're stupid and all, we do lean right fiscally, no shit.

But we are liberal on social issues and military.

We want less government in our wallets.

We want less government in our bedrooms and in our bodies.

We want less government interfering in foreign affairs dictating policy with the military.

Can even someone as dumb as you pick up a pattern there?

Don't confuse liberal with left. They have nothing to do with each other. I'm a liberal, you're a leftist. I support free speech, free choice, doing whatever you want as long as you don't infringe on the same right in others.

You're an authoritarian leftist.

If I get my way, you are still free to make your own choices. If you get your way, my choices are ended.

Liberal and leftist have nothing to do with each other

Your choice to not be able to afford college or healthcare or to ever retire

Um ... what? That doesn't even make sense, government lackey. Maybe you should have saved instead of spending all your money your whole life on vacations and other crap and now you need government to pay your bills for you.

You think government flooding schools with money makes them CHEAPER?

You think government regulations over healthcare makes it CHEAPER?

You think you can't save for your own retirement?

Unbelievable, your balls are just in a jar on Nancy's mantle

Um, I do save, a lot. But I also make more than most people and have less bills than most. I don't know how the rest of you are doing it.

I wish Eastern, Western, Central and Northern Michigan University were all affordable colleges because of government support. That would keep the other colleges from charging too much. Michigan State, UofM, and all the other colleges can charge whatever they want. And the Eastern Western Northern Michigan's will also accept more students from low income areas.

You see, government can do great things that will never happen if libertarians are in charge.

I like some of what you guys say, but not enough to call myself a libertarian.

The rest of us? Yeah, brainiac. I don't want government handouts because I don't save anything. You want government handouts because you do. Democrats are just the lamest liars. You live paycheck to paycheck, be honest for once.

And you're an authoritarian leftist, you have nothing in common with libertarians. We believe in choice and diversity and freedom of speech.

And you still don't grasp this. Obviously you know nothing about money or business. Government drives UP the cost of colleges. Think about it, they flood it with free money. So schools don't focus on degrees where the students get good paying jobs. How many people do you know who majored in worthless degrees like psychology and English?

If government STOPPED flooding schools with all that cash, then schools and students would both become far more cost conscious and think about how they are going to pay for it.

Now they suddenly realize after they leave with a worthless degree and $100K in debt, it actually wasn't free.

GOVERNMENT did that

I don’t need handouts anymore. But you and I grew up with these programs and safety nets and social programs and I appreciate what those programs do for poor and middle class people.

But just because I no longer need doesn’t make me change into a greedy republican or ignorant libertarian.

I make almost $100k and have no debt, no kids. I’m rich. My brother makes over $500k. I’m white, straight, like guns, educated, man. If I was greedy Or racist I would be a republican.

I have great healthcare provided by my employer. What if I lose my job?

I want government to force healthcare companies to cover pre existing conditions.

Even my rich brother wants more affordable healthcare for everyone. He’s not greedy either.

Then why do you need government to do it for you? Why don't you take a crowbar to your own wallet and help people out yourself?

Charity is not an act that can be performed with other people's money.

And when government does it, they do it so badly. They drive UP the cost of medical care and health care. You pay yourself on the back when you actually didn't do anything and what you did actually fucked the people you claimed to want to help ... with other people's money ...

Yea yea we’ve heard this right wing argument over and over. Yes, you are forced to pay into a government program that everyone benefits from. Like public schools. I can’t fund this on my own. Together we can accomplish the goal. We are all in this together

We all benefit from government schools? That's hilarious. They are the worst performing schools in the west and the most costly in the world. They are terrible. There is nothing more anti-education than supporting government schools

You mean they are worse than socialist Canada’s schools?

Irrelevant question. You have no logical ability at all. I'm not trying to deal with Canadian schools. Though dragonlady is no testament to Canadian government schools being worth a crap.

I was talking about US government schools. They are as we all know the worst in the west and most expensive in the world. Canadian government schools are irrelevant to that.

Why are our government schools such a failure? That's the question to address

What other "western" schools are you referring to then? Private schools?

Western world - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

You thought the West was just the US and Canada? Wow. Here you go, government educated failure

I’m trying to figure out what sch in the West are better than ours. Seeing as how you will probably be praising a socialist country I’m asking who? Can you answer?