What would America be like if the anti-Abortion types win?

[Ambivalent1]

What I find so bloody amazing, as well as so damn hypocritical are these "small government" types, predominately males, being so fixated on controlling various aspects of a woman's vagina to the point of an obsession. Then in the next breath, these same control freaks claim their damn guns should all be unfettered from any control under law.

An abortion of a non-viable fetus denies the POTENTIAL for a living being. A gun shot through the head or heart of any person ENDS the life of a living being. Time to end this fucking hypocrisy. Women are not chattel and weapons don't enhance your manhood, fools.

None of us “‘small government’ types, predominately [sic] males” defend any “right” to end the life of any living human being, except under extremely drastic circumstances. And even if you could rationally pin on us, every last bit of the death and destruction that can in any way be attributed to the use of firearms and our adherence to the Second Amendment and the right which it affirms, it is nothing compared to the deaths that you defend via abortion.

It's not a "human life". It's developing tissue, and 1/3 of all pregnancies abort spontaneously. A woman's body will abort the fetus if she isn't properly nourished or isn't physically capable of carrying her child to term, or if it isn't developing properly.

God gave women the free will to choose when to add to their families and women will NOT let you take that away, AGAIN. Too many women died. This is our "NEVER AGAIN'.

You will stand before God, there is no way to escape that.

 

[easyt65]

What I find so bloody amazing, as well as so damn hypocritical are these "small government" types, predominately males, being so fixated on controlling various aspects of a woman's vagina to the point of an obsession. Then in the next breath, these same control freaks claim their damn guns should all be unfettered from any control under law.

An abortion of a non-viable fetus denies the POTENTIAL for a living being. A gun shot through the head or heart of any person ENDS the life of a living being. Time to end this fucking hypocrisy. Women are not chattel and weapons don't enhance your manhood, fools.

None of us “‘small government’ types, predominately [sic] males” defend any “right” to end the life of any living human being, except under extremely drastic circumstances. And even if you could rationally pin on us, every last bit of the death and destruction that can in any way be attributed to the use of firearms and our adherence to the Second Amendment and the right which it affirms, it is nothing compared to the deaths that you defend via abortion.

Oh the drama! If you want to make abortion go away, do something about the poverty that causes it.

Would that you cared about living breathing children as much as you care for those in the womb.

Poverty does not cause pregnancy or abortion, silly snowflake. Opening up one's legs leads to it, especially all too often in the hear of passion without thought of consequences.

Abortions are not 'post-intercourse' 'protection'.

 

[easyt65]

What I find so bloody amazing, as well as so damn hypocritical are these "small government" types, predominately males, being so fixated on controlling various aspects of a woman's vagina to the point of an obsession. Then in the next breath, these same control freaks claim their damn guns should all be unfettered from any control under law.

An abortion of a non-viable fetus denies the POTENTIAL for a living being. A gun shot through the head or heart of any person ENDS the life of a living being. Time to end this fucking hypocrisy. Women are not chattel and weapons don't enhance your manhood, fools.

None of us “‘small government’ types, predominately [sic] males” defend any “right” to end the life of any living human being, except under extremely drastic circumstances. And even if you could rationally pin on us, every last bit of the death and destruction that can in any way be attributed to the use of firearms and our adherence to the Second Amendment and the right which it affirms, it is nothing compared to the deaths that you defend via abortion.

It's not a "human life". It's developing tissue, and 1/3 of all pregnancies abort spontaneously. A woman's body will abort the fetus if she isn't properly nourished or isn't physically capable of carrying her child to term, or if it isn't developing properly.

God gave women the free will to choose when to add to their families and women will NOT let you take that away, AGAIN. Too many women died. This is our "NEVER AGAIN'.

Thank you for that demonstration of how snowflakes seek to control the issue of abortions by claiming THEY get to define what is a fetus and what is a baby


A BABY with a heartbeat, who can feel pain, reacts to stimulus - like its mother's voice....a BABY that cans survive outside the womb, or a BABY -as the Va gov described - BEING DELIVERED AND THEN KEPT COMFORTABLE WHILE A DECISION IS MADE WHETHER TO KILL IT OR NOT is NOT 's lump of firming tissue'.

How the F* can ANYONE hear what the Va Gov said - how the INFANT will be delivered and kept comfortable - and he ok with anyone considering murdering it at any point after that?

 

[Bob Blaylock]

It's not a "human life". It's developing tissue, and 1/3 of all pregnancies abort spontaneously. A woman's body will abort the fetus if she isn't properly nourished or isn't physically capable of carrying her child to term, or if it isn't developing properly.

God gave women the free will to choose when to add to their families and women will NOT let you take that away, AGAIN. Too many women died. This is our "NEVER AGAIN'.

That's what the Nazis said about the Jews, and other “Untermenschen”. It's what the Croats and the Serbs said about each other, as each alternately gained the upper hand in carrying out campaigns of “ethnic cleansing” against the other. It's even what some of our own forebears said about black people.

 

[easyt65]

What I find so bloody amazing, as well as so damn hypocritical are these "small government" types, predominately males, being so fixated on controlling various aspects of a woman's vagina to the point of an obsession. Then in the next breath, these same control freaks claim their damn guns should all be unfettered from any control under law.

An abortion of a non-viable fetus denies the POTENTIAL for a living being. A gun shot through the head or heart of any person ENDS the life of a living being. Time to end this fucking hypocrisy. Women are not chattel and weapons don't enhance your manhood, fools.

None of us “‘small government’ types, predominately [sic] males” defend any “right” to end the life of any living human being, except under extremely drastic circumstances. And even if you could rationally pin on us, every last bit of the death and destruction that can in any way be attributed to the use of firearms and our adherence to the Second Amendment and the right which it affirms, it is nothing compared to the deaths that you defend via abortion.

It's not a "human life". It's developing tissue, and 1/3 of all pregnancies abort spontaneously. A woman's body will abort the fetus if she isn't properly nourished or isn't physically capable of carrying her child to term, or if it isn't developing properly.

God gave women the free will to choose when to add to their families and women will NOT let you take that away, AGAIN. Too many women died. This is our "NEVER AGAIN'.

Do NOT try to lay the blame for sick liberal bastards shoving rods up inside mothers and into a baby's head to scramble the baby's brain like scrambled eggs, for cutting a baby up in pieces and dragging it out of her...for saline solution abortions that scams/burn the baby alive...for doctors who say as long as the baby's head is still in the mother it is not a 'baby' and can still be murders...and don't even think about claiming GOD made babies being delivered and then butchered ok because it was a result of the gift of free choice to the mother.

God gave us all free choice, to do whatever we want, but that does not make what we do right.

If someone vmcrawled in your window tonight and raped and murdered you it would be in part because of his gift of free choice ... And we would still put that badyard in jail if not to death.

God has nothing to do with the man-perpetrated murder of his children.

 

[Crepitus]

I was 1st trimester pro-choice until insane hacks like you made excuses for the ghouls, who are to this this day selling body parts from dismembered aborted fetuses....Now you butchers are carrying the water for infanticide.

Go take your scare story from an irrelevant non-analogous nation and stuff it up your ass.

How are the Phillipines non-Analogous. We practically developed their government and wrote their constitution.

I know a lot of Filipinos, they are the nicest people in the world. But their laws on this topic are goofy, and ones we shouldn't want to copy.

Joe, there were similar problems when abortion was banned in Romania. There were orphanages filled with thousands of unwanted babies when communism fell. Americans tried adopting these children, but many of them suffered from attachment disorder, because they had never known a loving caring relationship with another human being.

Women spoke of being fearful of reprisals if they miscarried. Especially if the woman was single or for whom the pregnancy wasn't really a "blessed event". Those miscarriages were treated as especially suspicious. I had two early miscarriages, and was emotionally devasted when they happened. But I had family and friends who supported me, and a doctor who assured me my next pregnancy would go better. I can't imagine losing a child in this manner and then being too frightened to even seek medical treatment for the miscarriage.

First the hopelessly flawed comparison of with an isolated island nation, now we're going to trot out Romania under Soviet rule?!?

OK....It's safe to say that you ghoulish undertakers are out of any sane arguments.....I'm out of this mess.

Romania.....ROFLMAO!

That's right, ignore actual examples of what things that really happened because you don't like the results.

It's the conservitard way after all.

 

[easyt65]

That's right, ignore actual examples of what things that really happened because you don't like the results. It's the conservitard way after all.

Like snowflakes doing their damnedest to ignore the fact that they are making it legal to kill children who have already been born....?!

 

[Crepitus]

It's not a "human life". It's developing tissue, and 1/3 of all pregnancies abort spontaneously. A woman's body will abort the fetus if she isn't properly nourished or isn't physically capable of carrying her child to term, or if it isn't developing properly.

God gave women the free will to choose when to add to their families and women will NOT let you take that away, AGAIN. Too many women died. This is our "NEVER AGAIN'.

That's what the Nazis said about the Jews, and other “Untermenschen”. It's what the Croats and the Serbs said about each other, as each alternately gained the upper hand in carrying out campaigns of “ethnic cleansing” against the other. It's even what some of our own forebears said about black people.

Are you seriously trying to compare the American people choice movement to genocide?

Get help you freak.

 

[Crepitus]

That's right, ignore actual examples of what things that really happened because you don't like the results. It's the conservitard way after all.

Like snowflakes doing their damnedest to ignore the fact that they are making it legal to kill children who have already been born....?!

Nobody is doing that, and you are a complete and total moron if you believe it.

 

[Ambivalent1]

It's not a "human life". It's developing tissue, and 1/3 of all pregnancies abort spontaneously. A woman's body will abort the fetus if she isn't properly nourished or isn't physically capable of carrying her child to term, or if it isn't developing properly.

God gave women the free will to choose when to add to their families and women will NOT let you take that away, AGAIN. Too many women died. This is our "NEVER AGAIN'.

That's what the Nazis said about the Jews, and other “Untermenschen”. It's what the Croats and the Serbs said about each other, as each alternately gained the upper hand in carrying out campaigns of “ethnic cleansing” against the other. It's even what some of our own forebears said about black people.

Are you seriously trying to compare the American people choice movement to genocide?

Get help you freak.

How many have you aborted?

 

[Crepitus]

All their screaming about "infanticide" aside, do you ever wonder what our country would look like if the Anti-Choice fanatics got their way.

Well, thanks to the modern miracles of actually understanding there is a rest of the world out there, we have a real life example.

The Philippines, former American Colony, has exactly the kind of anti-choice laws you guys want.

How's that working out.. Well, let's review.

Unintended Pregnancy and Unsafe Abortion in the Philippines

• The Philippines abortion law is among the strictest in the world. Abortion is illegal under all circumstances and there are no explicit exceptions. Nonetheless, because of high levels of unintended pregnancy, abortion is common in the country. Projections that were based on the national abortion rate in 2000 (the most recent available) and that took into account population increase estimated that 560,000 abortions occurred in 2008 and 610,000 abortions took place in 2012.[2,8,9]

• About 1,000 Filipino women die each year from abortion complications, which contributes to the nation’s high maternal mortality rate. Projections that were based on data from 2000 indicate that 100,000 women were hospitalized for abortion complications in 2012; countless others suffered complications that went untreated.[4,9]

• The stigma surrounding abortion makes it difficult for women to seek postabortion care. Some women report feeling shamed and intimidated by health care workers and in some cases, women are not given pain relievers or anesthetics or are denied treatment all together. Others report being threatened that they would be turned over to the police.[5,8]

Thanks for being a proponent of irresponsible sexual intercourse.

Thanks for being an idiot and ignoring human instinct.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Are you seriously trying to compare the American people choice movement to genocide?

Get help you freak.

I'm comparing murder to murder. The mass dehumanization of large group of people to the mass dehumanization of large groups of people. The denial of basic human rights to the denial of basic human rights.

 

[The VOR]

Don't want a baby? DON'T GET FUCKED.

Problem solved dipshit.

I'm sure you are pretty good at using your personality as birth control.

I've never had anyone blow a load in me, so yeah....

I believe you meant to say you never swallowed, but that is also debatable.

 

[Oddball]

That's right, ignore actual examples of what things that really happened because you don't like the results.

It's the conservitard way after all.

Or recognize that results are going to be vastly different under vastly different circumstances...

Naaaah, just act as though one size and/or circumstance fits all, especially if they show results that you like.....It's the commie moonbat libtard way.

 

[easyt65]

Nobody is doing that, and you are a complete and total moron if you believe it.

Good. I am glad you are not denying that despicable, low-life, unethical, immoral, Democrats gave just made the push to make INFANTCIDE legal in the United States...

 

[BasicHumanUnit]

Wow, what an apt description.

What an apt piece of Communist propaganda Bullshit you pulled outta your arse

YOU Leftist idiots are GIVING AWAY the right to vote to illegals.
The Right isn't Giving Away Guns to Illegals...that's what YOU LEFTIST do...

See Eric Holder & Obama

 

[baileyn45]

All their screaming about "infanticide" aside, do you ever wonder what our country would look like if the Anti-Choice fanatics got their way.

Well, thanks to the modern miracles of actually understanding there is a rest of the world out there, we have a real life example.

The Philippines, former American Colony, has exactly the kind of anti-choice laws you guys want.

How's that working out.. Well, let's review.

Unintended Pregnancy and Unsafe Abortion in the Philippines

• The Philippines abortion law is among the strictest in the world. Abortion is illegal under all circumstances and there are no explicit exceptions. Nonetheless, because of high levels of unintended pregnancy, abortion is common in the country. Projections that were based on the national abortion rate in 2000 (the most recent available) and that took into account population increase estimated that 560,000 abortions occurred in 2008 and 610,000 abortions took place in 2012.[2,8,9]

• About 1,000 Filipino women die each year from abortion complications, which contributes to the nation’s high maternal mortality rate. Projections that were based on data from 2000 indicate that 100,000 women were hospitalized for abortion complications in 2012; countless others suffered complications that went untreated.[4,9]

• The stigma surrounding abortion makes it difficult for women to seek postabortion care. Some women report feeling shamed and intimidated by health care workers and in some cases, women are not given pain relievers or anesthetics or are denied treatment all together. Others report being threatened that they would be turned over to the police.[5,8]

I'm wondering if you even read your own post. 1000 women die of abortion complications each year. Meanwhile 560000 babies died. It would appear the women are fairing a bit better than the babies.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

All their screaming about "infanticide" aside, do you ever wonder what our country would look like if the Anti-Choice fanatics got their way.

Well, thanks to the modern miracles of actually understanding there is a rest of the world out there, we have a real life example.

The Philippines, former American Colony, has exactly the kind of anti-choice laws you guys want.

How's that working out.. Well, let's review.

Unintended Pregnancy and Unsafe Abortion in the Philippines

• The Philippines abortion law is among the strictest in the world. Abortion is illegal under all circumstances and there are no explicit exceptions. Nonetheless, because of high levels of unintended pregnancy, abortion is common in the country. Projections that were based on the national abortion rate in 2000 (the most recent available) and that took into account population increase estimated that 560,000 abortions occurred in 2008 and 610,000 abortions took place in 2012.[2,8,9]

• About 1,000 Filipino women die each year from abortion complications, which contributes to the nation’s high maternal mortality rate. Projections that were based on data from 2000 indicate that 100,000 women were hospitalized for abortion complications in 2012; countless others suffered complications that went untreated.[4,9]

• The stigma surrounding abortion makes it difficult for women to seek postabortion care. Some women report feeling shamed and intimidated by health care workers and in some cases, women are not given pain relievers or anesthetics or are denied treatment all together. Others report being threatened that they would be turned over to the police.[5,8]

Why so strident about killing children? When you're alone with your thoughts, do yoyou ever wonder what's wrong with you?

 

[baileyn45]

What I find so bloody amazing, as well as so damn hypocritical are these "small government" types, predominately males, being so fixated on controlling various aspects of a woman's vagina to the point of an obsession. Then in the next breath, these same control freaks claim their damn guns should all be unfettered from any control under law.

An abortion of a non-viable fetus denies the POTENTIAL for a living being. A gun shot through the head or heart of any person ENDS the life of a living being. Time to end this fucking hypocrisy. Women are not chattel and weapons don't enhance your manhood, fools.

None of us “‘small government’ types, predominately [sic] males” defend any “right” to end the life of any living human being, except under extremely drastic circumstances. And even if you could rationally pin on us, every last bit of the death and destruction that can in any way be attributed to the use of firearms and our adherence to the Second Amendment and the right which it affirms, it is nothing compared to the deaths that you defend via abortion.

Oh the drama! If you want to make abortion go away, do something about the poverty that causes it.

Would that you cared about living breathing children as much as you care for those in the womb.

And what would you rather I do? Not pay to support you or scramble your brain and dismember you? Utter barbarism.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

My cousin's wife was in the third trimester of a very planned and wanted pregnancy. They had been married for over a decade and had finally gotten to a place that they could afford and have children. In the third trimester the cord got wrapped around the neck of that fetus and choked it. If you talk to any doctor about that situation they will tell you about a bacteria called paratinitus. It will kill the woman. That bacteria will grow in that uterus with that unviable fetus and will kill her if a late term abortion isn't performed. At the very least, if she waits for it to spontaneously abort on it's own, known as a miscarriage, and doesn't die, she will be infertile for the rest of her life.

My cousin's wife had that late term abortion so she wouldn't die and could preserve her fertility to have more children. They did. They have a son and daughter. The son is almost done in residency to be an orthopedic surgeon and the daughter is nearly done with learning to be an orthodontist.

Should my cousin's wife been forced to die? Should women who face that and other life threatening conditions be forced to die?

So the baby was already dead when they terminated the pregnancy. Thanks for that completely irrelevant analogy.[