Zone1 When do you feel the 2nd Coming of Christ will be?

When will the 2nd Coming of Christ be?

  • within 10 years

    Votes: 3 15.0%
  • within 20 years

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • within 30 years

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • within 40 years

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • within 50 years

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • within 75 years

    Votes: 2 10.0%
  • within 100 years

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • within 150 years

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • within 200 years

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • within 500 years

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • after 500 years

    Votes: 1 5.0%
  • He will never come again

    Votes: 11 55.0%

  • Total voters
    20
  • Poll closed .
This post doesn't say anything. It neither refutes my posts nor affirms your opinion.
That's good, I'm interested in learning from the Bible and I hadn't wanted to refute your posts nor assert any opinion other than what was there. If I've said anything that you feel contradicts the Bible as a whole please tell me and maybe we can discuss it.

Also, do let me know if in the future ur ever interested in that portion of Daniel that Jesus referred us to. I understand ur not interested now.
 
That's good, I'm interested in learning from the Bible and I hadn't wanted to refute your posts nor assert any opinion other than what was there. If I've said anything that you feel contradicts the Bible as a whole please tell me and maybe we can discuss it.

Also, do let me know if in the future ur ever interested in that portion of Daniel that Jesus referred us to. I understand ur not interested now.

Jesus was referring to the first abomination of desolation when Antiochus IV Epiphanies defiled the temple. What's the problem?

Jesus said when you see it happening again flee to the mountains. They did. They went to Pella and avoided the tribulation.
 
Are u saying that this is what Jesus was talking about in Mathew 24 verse 15?
"When you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place" (emphasis added)

In 167 BC, the Jews stopped their regular burnt offerings. Antiochus IV Epiphanes was ruling the Seleucid Empire at the time, and apparently offered swine in the temple and erected an altar to Zeus (Jupiter) there. The abomination that Christ's apostles were to anticipate appears to have been modeled on the activities of Antiochus IV.

In the apostles' generation, meet Phannias ben Sameul. This interloper in the priesthood mocked the institution in the manner of those who put him there and desecrated the Law while legitimate priests could only look on from the sidelines in tears (Wars 4.3.8).
 
Okay, I read Matthew. All the details pertain to the first century.
Nope. People weren't "running to and fro over the face of the earth" neither did Man have the power to destroy all life "except He cut short those days." And, neither was "knowledge greatly increased" in the first century
 
Nope. People weren't "running to and fro over the face of the earth" neither did Man have the power to destroy all life "except He cut short those days." And, neither was "knowledge greatly increased" in the first century
What are you going on about? What is this "running to and fro over the face of the earth" business?
 
"When you see the abomination of desolation spoken of by the prophet Daniel, standing in the holy place" (emphasis added)

In 167 BC, the Jews stopped their regular burnt offerings. Antiochus IV Epiphanes was ruling the Seleucid Empire at the time, and apparently offered swine in the temple and erected an altar to Zeus (Jupiter) there. The abomination that Christ's apostles were to anticipate appears to have been modeled on the activities of Antiochus IV.

In the apostles' generation, meet Phannias ben Sameul. This interloper in the priesthood mocked the institution in the manner of those who put him there and desecrated the Law while legitimate priests could only look on from the sidelines in tears (Wars 4.3.8).
Y'all have an interesting take, tho what I'm looking at is the fact that the words "abomination" and "desolation" show up throughout the last four chapters of the Book of Daniel. There's a lot there, including the year that Jesus himself would be crucified. Considering all that and more, it's a bit hard for me to say it was just something that Antiochus did a century and a half later.
 
55% believe he will never come again .

And 90% would ignore him if he did turn up with his nauseating brand of sentimentalism and outright narcissism .

He was a flop first time round and no surprise when he was finally nailed .
 
Y'all have an interesting take, tho what I'm looking at is the fact that the words "abomination" and "desolation" show up throughout the last four chapters of the Book of Daniel. There's a lot there, including the year that Jesus himself would be crucified. Considering all that and more, it's a bit hard for me to say it was just something that Antiochus did a century and a half later.
You have not yet synthesized your observations of the text into any cohesive summary. Nor have you refuted me yet.

Why do you keep arguing? You're not accomplishing anything.
 
Y'all have an interesting take, tho what I'm looking at is the fact that the words "abomination" and "desolation" show up throughout the last four chapters of the Book of Daniel. There's a lot there, including the year that Jesus himself would be crucified. Considering all that and more, it's a bit hard for me to say it was just something that Antiochus did a century and a half later.

Doesn't say anything about Jesus.
 
Y'all have an interesting take, tho what I'm looking at is the fact that the words "abomination" and "desolation" show up throughout the last four chapters of the Book of Daniel. There's a lot there, including the year that Jesus himself would be crucified. Considering all that and more, it's a bit hard for me to say it was just something that Antiochus did a century and a half later.

What are you talking about? Antiochus IV Epiphanies died in 164 BC.
 
55% believe he will never come again .

And 90% would ignore him if he did turn up with his nauseating brand of sentimentalism and outright narcissism .

He was a flop first time round and no surprise when he was finally nailed .
You won't be mocking Him when He Returns as the Lion of Judah


Zechariah 14

New International Version

The Lord Comes and Reigns​

14 A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.
2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city. 3 Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle. 4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south. 5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake[a] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.
6 On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. 7 It will be a unique day—a day known only to the Lord—with no distinction between day and night. When evening comes, there will be light.
8 On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter.
9 The Lord will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one Lord, and his name the only name.
10 The whole land, from Geba to Rimmon, south of Jerusalem, will become like the Arabah. But Jerusalem will be raised up high from the Benjamin Gate to the site of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses, and will remain in its place. 11 It will be inhabited; never again will it be destroyed. Jerusalem will be secure.
12 This is the plague with which the Lord will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths. 13 On that day people will be stricken by the Lord with great panic. They will seize each other by the hand and attack one another. 14 Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected—great quantities of gold and silver and clothing. 15 A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps.
 
You won't be mocking Him when He Returns as the Lion of Judah


Zechariah 14

New International Version

The Lord Comes and Reigns​

14 A day of the Lord is coming, Jerusalem, when your possessions will be plundered and divided up within your very walls.
2 I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city. 3 Then the Lord will go out and fight against those nations, as he fights on a day of battle. 4 On that day his feet will stand on the Mount of Olives, east of Jerusalem, and the Mount of Olives will be split in two from east to west, forming a great valley, with half of the mountain moving north and half moving south. 5 You will flee by my mountain valley, for it will extend to Azel. You will flee as you fled from the earthquake[a] in the days of Uzziah king of Judah. Then the Lord my God will come, and all the holy ones with him.
6 On that day there will be neither sunlight nor cold, frosty darkness. 7 It will be a unique day—a day known only to the Lord—with no distinction between day and night. When evening comes, there will be light.
8 On that day living water will flow out from Jerusalem, half of it east to the Dead Sea and half of it west to the Mediterranean Sea, in summer and in winter.
9 The Lord will be king over the whole earth. On that day there will be one Lord, and his name the only name.
10 The whole land, from Geba to Rimmon, south of Jerusalem, will become like the Arabah. But Jerusalem will be raised up high from the Benjamin Gate to the site of the First Gate, to the Corner Gate, and from the Tower of Hananel to the royal winepresses, and will remain in its place. 11 It will be inhabited; never again will it be destroyed. Jerusalem will be secure.
12 This is the plague with which the Lord will strike all the nations that fought against Jerusalem: Their flesh will rot while they are still standing on their feet, their eyes will rot in their sockets, and their tongues will rot in their mouths. 13 On that day people will be stricken by the Lord with great panic. They will seize each other by the hand and attack one another. 14 Judah too will fight at Jerusalem. The wealth of all the surrounding nations will be collected—great quantities of gold and silver and clothing. 15 A similar plague will strike the horses and mules, the camels and donkeys, and all the animals in those camps.

Half the city did go into exile.

 

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