Ravi
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No, no, no. This is simply supply and demand more.
Unless you can show the Oil Companies are making a bigger profit margin then last year or the year before, you can cry about them all you want.Without that they are simply charging what they have been all along in relation to what they pay for oil.
I don't think it's the companies....but they certainly aren't doing without.
6 months ago, oil was roughly 90 dollars a barrel. Can you believe that demand has changed that much to raise it 40+ dollars a barrel? It took years to rise from 50 dollars a barrel to 90 dollars a barrel....we've achieved that in 6 months. This is why there is investigation into price manipulation by "someone." The oil supply is not low....they raise the price every time we have a little storm in the gulf, or everytime something happens overseas...but when they tap into a huge oil well, why doesn't the price go down?? Plants are operating at full capacity....there is no shortage. As far as demand...until I can find some actualy numbers, I can't believe that demand has changed that much in 6 months. Just my opinion. Someone's jackin with prices IMO.
Just more evidence of the Bush administration's priorities, which are NOT the American people but rather corporate interests. Either that or he's so weak and lame that he's leaving the country in worse shape than when he took it.
It is speculation and a weak dollar. We have already had links to evidence the supply is in fact more than the demand.
Safe and reliable alternative energy must be found. However, we have to be realistic. It will not solve our problems overnight like the Liberals want you to think. Here is why:
1. A viable solution HAS NOT been found yet.
2. When it is found, it will be MUCH more expensive than oil.
3. There is no way we can mass produce it (right away) to the level of our oil needs and usage.
4. The infrastructure will take decades to fully adapt. There a lot of vehicles, buildings, boat, planes, etc that will have to slowly make the change.
Just to further make the point.......
1. Absolutely right. We are far from the goal of finding alternative energy sources that can supply us the energy that carbon in all its varoius guises gives us. The technology exists (and will get better as it goes on line, too), but the political will and investment isn't there...yet.
2. Pure speculation of course. It will inevitably be expensive bring it online. But if the original source is renewable, I doubt it will be MUCH more expensive than carbon based energy in even the medium run.
3. Again totally correct. We are collectively not prepared to completely change the technbological/economic system we currently have in place. The sooner we start, the better. but there's no easy road to solving this.
4. Yes, that's true. It was true when you said essantially the same thing in #3, as well.
Is this board under the impression that "liberals" whoever they are) are not aware of all those things, or something?
Of course everyone understands that. Conservatives and so called liberals understand that. Anyone who can fog a mirror understands all those things.
Let us get to to the political solving we need to do, then, and stop all this partisan nonsense, shall we?
Sure we need to approach this problem with using every energy source we can find, I agree.
But who is WE? Drilling oil in America doesn't mean the oil is American, does it?
But even if we start ANWR drilling now, that oil won't be online for at least five years and it is NOT a whole helluva lot of oil in comparison to world demand, anyway.
ALL carbon based sources like ANWR are at best stopgap measures, anyway, and not real solutions, thanks to CO2 pollution -- a problem which we also have to consider as we ponder this energy crises, yes?
We need nukes, alternative energy and more carbon based solutions online, ASAP.
1. ANWR
2. Rocky and Appalachian Mountains
3. Northwestern Plain States (and other possible plain states)
4. Gulf of Mexico (Mexico and China already drilling there)
5. Not to mention expanding drilling operations where we are already drilling.
Three simple questions for you liberal bashers out there...I would like to point out that both Liberal responses to my post do not address the "meat" of the point that I made.
The will of the people is not the "extreme left" agenda that you claim it to be. Drilling a field and other such places (which is ONLY protected by the super opinionated and super-minority-sized environmentalists) is well within the peoples will, especially when the prices are up and the squeeze is from the Middle East and other domestic factors.
However, just to be clear, I do not think that the Republican Party has done everything right. They have made their share of mistakes, but they are in NO comparison to the Liberals who have put us in this predicament in the first place. Had the environmental lobby let us begin drilling in Alaska, the mountains, and now the Northwestern Plane states, we would be well on our way to further energy independence.
Safe and reliable alternative energy must be found. However, we have to be realistic. It will not solve our problems overnight like the Liberals want you to think. Here is why:
1. A viable solution HAS NOT been found yet.
2. When it is found, it will be MUCH more expensive than oil.
3. There is no way we can mass produce it (right away) to the level of our oil needs and usage.
4. The infrastructure will take decades to fully adapt. There a lot of vehicles, buildings, boat, planes, etc that will have to slowly make the change.
Just to further make the point.......
Just more evidence of the Bush administration's priorities, which are NOT the American people but rather corporate interests. Either that or he's so weak and lame that he's leaving the country in worse shape than when he took it.