Where FDR Went Wrong

[PoliticalChic]

You are exactly what the Left yearns for!

You are not only ignorant...but have the unerring ability to ignore any facts that run counter to the Democrat policies and actions.


Japanese interment policy?

It was not based on national security....as you probably believe.
It was based on the wishes to accrue votes for the Democrats.



The internment of 110,000 Japanese seems to have been largely political. Earl Warren of California was sensitive to his constituents resenting the large success of the Japanese in agriculture. And, interned, they couldn’t vote against FDR, and he did pick up three House seats…and after the election he began to move for the release of the Japanese.
From "FDR Goes To War," by Folsom and Folsom

Wadda guy, your hero.

You blamed it on liberalism. That is retarded.

"Liberalism" in practice is always about controlling people and silencing dissent. The democrats have an endlessly shameful record of enslaving and oppressing people - particularly minorities. FDR's concentration camps were just another example of it. Today they have replaced FDR's barbed wire fences and armed guard towers with propaganda, blatant manipulation of information, and generational dependency.

"Liberalism" ...controlling people...oppressing people..."

Funny you should say that.
Yesterday, I got on the city bus....had lots of them empty.....and I was thinking, under conservatism, you could take any seat....

But if the buses were run under Liberalism, some bureaucrat would decide it was best if the seats were filled front to back, so they'd pass a law mandating same, fine/arrest those who didn't obey....and they'd call the law "The Rosa Parks Easy Seating Freedom Plan."

 

[NYcarbineer]

You are exactly what the Left yearns for!

You are not only ignorant...but have the unerring ability to ignore any facts that run counter to the Democrat policies and actions.


Japanese interment policy?

It was not based on national security....as you probably believe.
It was based on the wishes to accrue votes for the Democrats.



The internment of 110,000 Japanese seems to have been largely political. Earl Warren of California was sensitive to his constituents resenting the large success of the Japanese in agriculture. And, interned, they couldn’t vote against FDR, and he did pick up three House seats…and after the election he began to move for the release of the Japanese.
From "FDR Goes To War," by Folsom and Folsom

Wadda guy, your hero.

You blamed it on liberalism. That is retarded.

"Liberalism" in practice is always about controlling people and silencing dissent. The democrats have an endlessly shameful record of enslaving and oppressing people - particularly minorities. FDR's concentration camps were just another example of it. Today they have replaced FDR's barbed wire fences and armed guard towers with propaganda, blatant manipulation of information, and generational dependency.

The leading advocate for the Japanese internment was CA Atty General, the aforementioned Earl Warren,

who the author of this thread intentionally, or ignorantly, failed to mention

was a Republican.

So shut up and go read a book or something.

 

[PoliticalChic]

You blamed it on liberalism. That is retarded.

"Liberalism" in practice is always about controlling people and silencing dissent. The democrats have an endlessly shameful record of enslaving and oppressing people - particularly minorities. FDR's concentration camps were just another example of it. Today they have replaced FDR's barbed wire fences and armed guard towers with propaganda, blatant manipulation of information, and generational dependency.

The leading advocate for the Japanese internment was CA Atty General, the aforementioned Earl Warren,

who the author of this thread intentionally, or ignorantly, failed to mention

was a Republican.

So shut up and go read a book or something.

You prove daily that you lead the pack of dishonest posters.


"Earl Warren was an immensely popular Republican governor when President Dwight Eisenhower appointed him to the Supreme Court. Ike later regretted his choice; he had hoped to appoint a moderate conservative; Warren proved to be an unabashed liberal."
Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court



I'm surprised the word "book" doesn't stick in your throat.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"Liberalism" in practice is always about controlling people and silencing dissent. The democrats have an endlessly shameful record of enslaving and oppressing people - particularly minorities. FDR's concentration camps were just another example of it. Today they have replaced FDR's barbed wire fences and armed guard towers with propaganda, blatant manipulation of information, and generational dependency.

The leading advocate for the Japanese internment was CA Atty General, the aforementioned Earl Warren,

who the author of this thread intentionally, or ignorantly, failed to mention

was a Republican.

So shut up and go read a book or something.

You prove daily that you lead the pack of dishonest posters.


"Earl Warren was an immensely popular Republican governor when President Dwight Eisenhower appointed him to the Supreme Court. Ike later regretted his choice; he had hoped to appoint a moderate conservative; Warren proved to be an unabashed liberal."
Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court



I'm surprised the word "book" doesn't stick in your throat.

lol, you fell for that one.

So finally you agree that Democrat doesn't automatically mean 'liberal',

as in, the Southern Democrats who fought against civil rights, desegregation, etc., were CONSERVATIVES,

not liberals.

lol. You got set up.

 

[midcan5]

" Franklin Delano Roosevelt would lead America in the fight to defeat fascism and keep democracy alive. link below.

You know someone was successful in their fight for all Americans and for democracy when the right wing is still trying to change history eighty years later. FDR remains our greatest president even as money power and corporate power change the minds of those ideologues who know no history.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/history/180822-i-welcome-their-hatred-fdr-2.html#post4029337
http://www.usmessageboard.com/history/180822-i-welcome-their-hatred-fdr.html

"When Roosevelt took the oath of office on March 4, 1933, America lay in the depths of the Depression. Between 12 million and 15 million Americans, about 25 percent of the work force, were unemployed. Millions of people had lost their life's savings. Many had lost their homes and lived in makeshift shacks. Many more stood in long lines for free soup and bread. Eleven thousand of America's 25,000 banks had failed. Herbert Hoover, Roosevelt's predecessor, had steered a mostly idle course through the crisis, waiting for the economy to correct itself, but the correction had not come.

Franklin Roosevelt was not the type of man who waited for events to happen. In his inaugural address, he swore to bring the nation a New Deal, and backed by a soundly Democratic Congress, he took Washington by storm. Within days of taking office, he closed the remaining banks, avoiding a run on deposits that would have finished them all. He set up a system for judging the soundness of banks and reopened the ones that were solid. He moved to put the government itself on a budget, freeing up federal dollars for relief and reform measures." Legacy . FDR . WGBH American Experience | PBS

 

[Avatar4321]

He ran for President.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

" Franklin Delano Roosevelt would lead America in the fight to defeat fascism and keep democracy alive. link below.

You know someone was successful in their fight for all Americans and for democracy when the right wing is still trying to change history eighty years later. FDR remains our greatest president even as money power and corporate power change the minds of those ideologues who know no history.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/history/180822-i-welcome-their-hatred-fdr-2.html#post4029337
http://www.usmessageboard.com/history/180822-i-welcome-their-hatred-fdr.html

"When Roosevelt took the oath of office on March 4, 1933, America lay in the depths of the Depression. Between 12 million and 15 million Americans, about 25 percent of the work force, were unemployed. Millions of people had lost their life's savings. Many had lost their homes and lived in makeshift shacks. Many more stood in long lines for free soup and bread. Eleven thousand of America's 25,000 banks had failed. Herbert Hoover, Roosevelt's predecessor, had steered a mostly idle course through the crisis, waiting for the economy to correct itself, but the correction had not come.

Franklin Roosevelt was not the type of man who waited for events to happen. In his inaugural address, he swore to bring the nation a New Deal, and backed by a soundly Democratic Congress, he took Washington by storm. Within days of taking office, he closed the remaining banks, avoiding a run on deposits that would have finished them all. He set up a system for judging the soundness of banks and reopened the ones that were solid. He moved to put the government itself on a budget, freeing up federal dollars for relief and reform measures." Legacy . FDR . WGBH American Experience | PBS

FDR lead the fight to bring Soviet Style Central planning to the USA, fuck him.

Epic Fail as a President

 

[CrusaderFrank]

You blamed it on liberalism. That is retarded.

"Liberalism" in practice is always about controlling people and silencing dissent. The democrats have an endlessly shameful record of enslaving and oppressing people - particularly minorities. FDR's concentration camps were just another example of it. Today they have replaced FDR's barbed wire fences and armed guard towers with propaganda, blatant manipulation of information, and generational dependency.

The leading advocate for the Japanese internment was CA Atty General, the aforementioned Earl Warren,

who the author of this thread intentionally, or ignorantly, failed to mention

was a Republican.

So shut up and go read a book or something.

Warren was as Republican as Starkey

 

[NYcarbineer]

"Liberalism" in practice is always about controlling people and silencing dissent. The democrats have an endlessly shameful record of enslaving and oppressing people - particularly minorities. FDR's concentration camps were just another example of it. Today they have replaced FDR's barbed wire fences and armed guard towers with propaganda, blatant manipulation of information, and generational dependency.

The leading advocate for the Japanese internment was CA Atty General, the aforementioned Earl Warren,

who the author of this thread intentionally, or ignorantly, failed to mention

was a Republican.

So shut up and go read a book or something.

You prove daily that you lead the pack of dishonest posters.


"Earl Warren was an immensely popular Republican governor when President Dwight Eisenhower appointed him to the Supreme Court. Ike later regretted his choice; he had hoped to appoint a moderate conservative; Warren proved to be an unabashed liberal."
Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court



I'm surprised the word "book" doesn't stick in your throat.

So Eisenhower thought Warren was a conservative, while knowing that Warren's single most significant action up that point had been his leadership in the internment movement?

But, if supporting internment was, as you insist, LIBERALISM, why didn't Eisenhower thus identify Warren as a liberal??

Here's a hint:

Being pro-internment at the time was on balance the conservative position, and the extremity of the circumstances, i.e., WORLD WAR,

cause many otherwise liberal politicians to get very conservative on that one issue.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"Liberalism" in practice is always about controlling people and silencing dissent. The democrats have an endlessly shameful record of enslaving and oppressing people - particularly minorities. FDR's concentration camps were just another example of it. Today they have replaced FDR's barbed wire fences and armed guard towers with propaganda, blatant manipulation of information, and generational dependency.

The leading advocate for the Japanese internment was CA Atty General, the aforementioned Earl Warren,

who the author of this thread intentionally, or ignorantly, failed to mention

was a Republican.

So shut up and go read a book or something.

Warren was as Republican as Starkey

The Republican Party of the 1930's was isolationist...

...kind of like your new BFF Rand Paul - as in REPUBLICAN Rand Paul.

 

[Redfish]

The leading advocate for the Japanese internment was CA Atty General, the aforementioned Earl Warren,

who the author of this thread intentionally, or ignorantly, failed to mention

was a Republican.

So shut up and go read a book or something.

Warren was as Republican as Starkey

The Republican Party of the 1930's was isolationist...

...kind of like your new BFF Rand Paul - as in REPUBLICAN Rand Paul.

believing that the USA is not the world's police force and morals setter is not isolationist. Believing that we should stay out of other country's business is not isolationist.

you liars on the left were ranting and raving about Bush intervening but you care nothing when obama does the exact same thing---------you are the definition of hypocrisy.

Rand Paul has principles and stands behind them. We need more people in DC like him--in both parties.

 

[PoliticalChic]

" Franklin Delano Roosevelt would lead America in the fight to defeat fascism and keep democracy alive. link below.

You know someone was successful in their fight for all Americans and for democracy when the right wing is still trying to change history eighty years later. FDR remains our greatest president even as money power and corporate power change the minds of those ideologues who know no history.

http://www.usmessageboard.com/history/180822-i-welcome-their-hatred-fdr-2.html#post4029337
http://www.usmessageboard.com/history/180822-i-welcome-their-hatred-fdr.html

"When Roosevelt took the oath of office on March 4, 1933, America lay in the depths of the Depression. Between 12 million and 15 million Americans, about 25 percent of the work force, were unemployed. Millions of people had lost their life's savings. Many had lost their homes and lived in makeshift shacks. Many more stood in long lines for free soup and bread. Eleven thousand of America's 25,000 banks had failed. Herbert Hoover, Roosevelt's predecessor, had steered a mostly idle course through the crisis, waiting for the economy to correct itself, but the correction had not come.

Franklin Roosevelt was not the type of man who waited for events to happen. In his inaugural address, he swore to bring the nation a New Deal, and backed by a soundly Democratic Congress, he took Washington by storm. Within days of taking office, he closed the remaining banks, avoiding a run on deposits that would have finished them all. He set up a system for judging the soundness of banks and reopened the ones that were solid. He moved to put the government itself on a budget, freeing up federal dollars for relief and reform measures." Legacy . FDR . WGBH American Experience | PBS

"You know someone was successful in their fight for all Americans and for democracy when the right wing is still trying to change history eighty years later."


change (chnj)
v. changed, chang·ing, chang·es
v.tr.
1.
a. To cause to be different: change the spelling of a word.
b. To give a completely different form or appearance to; transform: changed the yard into a garden.



If I have made FDR's actions different in retelling than in reality.....you might have a case.


If I have not.....let me be kind and say that you have been fibbing to support of Roosevlt.


Kindly elucidate your position.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The leading advocate for the Japanese internment was CA Atty General, the aforementioned Earl Warren,

who the author of this thread intentionally, or ignorantly, failed to mention

was a Republican.

So shut up and go read a book or something.

You prove daily that you lead the pack of dishonest posters.


"Earl Warren was an immensely popular Republican governor when President Dwight Eisenhower appointed him to the Supreme Court. Ike later regretted his choice; he had hoped to appoint a moderate conservative; Warren proved to be an unabashed liberal."
Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court



I'm surprised the word "book" doesn't stick in your throat.

So Eisenhower thought Warren was a conservative, while knowing that Warren's single most significant action up that point had been his leadership in the internment movement?

But, if supporting internment was, as you insist, LIBERALISM, why didn't Eisenhower thus identify Warren as a liberal??

Here's a hint:

Being pro-internment at the time was on balance the conservative position, and the extremity of the circumstances, i.e., WORLD WAR,

cause many otherwise liberal politicians to get very conservative on that one issue.

You struggle mightily to absolve liberals, Democrats, from the guilt they so rightly deserve.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

 

[NYcarbineer]

Warren was as Republican as Starkey

The Republican Party of the 1930's was isolationist...

...kind of like your new BFF Rand Paul - as in REPUBLICAN Rand Paul.

believing that the USA is not the world's police force and morals setter is not isolationist. Believing that we should stay out of other country's business is not isolationist.

you liars on the left were ranting and raving about Bush intervening but you care nothing when obama does the exact same thing---------you are the definition of hypocrisy.

Rand Paul has principles and stands behind them. We need more people in DC like him--in both parties.

So which Obama intervention did I support? You asshole.

 

[NYcarbineer]

You prove daily that you lead the pack of dishonest posters.


"Earl Warren was an immensely popular Republican governor when President Dwight Eisenhower appointed him to the Supreme Court. Ike later regretted his choice; he had hoped to appoint a moderate conservative; Warren proved to be an unabashed liberal."
Earl Warren, Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court



I'm surprised the word "book" doesn't stick in your throat.

So Eisenhower thought Warren was a conservative, while knowing that Warren's single most significant action up that point had been his leadership in the internment movement?

But, if supporting internment was, as you insist, LIBERALISM, why didn't Eisenhower thus identify Warren as a liberal??

Here's a hint:

Being pro-internment at the time was on balance the conservative position, and the extremity of the circumstances, i.e., WORLD WAR,

cause many otherwise liberal politicians to get very conservative on that one issue.

You struggle mightily to absolve liberals, Democrats, from the guilt they so rightly deserve.

"The lady doth protest too much, methinks."

You have admitted there can be a difference between a liberal and a Democrat.

Have you forgotten doing that already?

Can you show us how conservatism opposed the Japanese internment?

There is of course this CONSERVATIVE opinion, from one of your favorite airheads:

lol, defending internment to make the case for profiling Muslims.

In Defense of Internment - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And guess what, YOU won't even have the guts to say Malkin is full of crap.

too funny

 

[Unkotare]

You blamed it on liberalism. That is retarded.

"Liberalism" in practice is always about controlling people and silencing dissent. The democrats have an endlessly shameful record of enslaving and oppressing people - particularly minorities. FDR's concentration camps were just another example of it. Today they have replaced FDR's barbed wire fences and armed guard towers with propaganda, blatant manipulation of information, and generational dependency.

The leading advocate for the Japanese internment was CA Atty General, the aforementioned Earl Warren,

who the author of this thread intentionally, or ignorantly, failed to mention

was a Republican.

So shut up and go read a book or something.

Who signed Executive Order 9066, douchebag?





Guess what political party Ralph Carr represented, idiot?

 

[regent]

FDR has been a real problem for conservatives, imagine the best president of the United States being a Democrat. What to do? Well one thing conservatives can do is try to create a new history of FDR's administration. It's quite simple have some authors weave a new pattern of history with some imaginary motives and explanations. The only problem is the real historians aren't buying the new creative history. To them facts are still facts and the proper arrangement is still essential, but the anti-FDRers and their history must cause a smile or two.

 

[NYcarbineer]

"Liberalism" in practice is always about controlling people and silencing dissent. The democrats have an endlessly shameful record of enslaving and oppressing people - particularly minorities. FDR's concentration camps were just another example of it. Today they have replaced FDR's barbed wire fences and armed guard towers with propaganda, blatant manipulation of information, and generational dependency.

The leading advocate for the Japanese internment was CA Atty General, the aforementioned Earl Warren,

who the author of this thread intentionally, or ignorantly, failed to mention

was a Republican.

So shut up and go read a book or something.

Who signed Executive Order 9066, douchebag?





Guess what political party Ralph Carr represented, idiot?

You tried to blame this on Democrats, as if it were something peculiar to Democratic beliefs, and then you expand it to liberal beliefs.

Earl Warren was a Republican.

 

[PoliticalChic]

FDR has been a real problem for conservatives, imagine the best president of the United States being a Democrat. What to do? Well one thing conservatives can do is try to create a new history of FDR's administration. It's quite simple have some authors weave a new pattern of history with some imaginary motives and explanations. The only problem is the real historians aren't buying the new creative history. To them facts are still facts and the proper arrangement is still essential, but the anti-FDRers and their history must cause a smile or two.

Silly boy.

The best President of the last century, as defined by a love of the Constitution, increased prosperity for all Americans, and the destruction of the Evil Empire was President Reagan.

The simplest way to show that is the unmitigated vituperation by you Leftists whenever the truth is revealed.

 

[PoliticalChic]

The leading advocate for the Japanese internment was CA Atty General, the aforementioned Earl Warren,

who the author of this thread intentionally, or ignorantly, failed to mention

was a Republican.

So shut up and go read a book or something.

Who signed Executive Order 9066, douchebag?





Guess what political party Ralph Carr represented, idiot?

You tried to blame this on Democrats, as if it were something peculiar to Democratic beliefs, and then you expand it to liberal beliefs.

Earl Warren was a Republican.

"...something peculiar to Democratic beliefs..."


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