Which candidate will put more money into the Middle Class?

[OnePercenter]

Neither candidate. Let me explain.

Liberals would expand government institutions which create more government jobs, which are usually what I would consider middle class.

Conservatives would not do this, which means the free market would expand in the governments place if the oppurtunity void is secure long enough.

Government cannot create jobs. Only take jobs that would be created by the free market.

Both candidates are liberal by the way.

Trump is not a Conservative.

The President has immense influence over Foreign Trade.

Trumps economic plan would raise MY (a rich guys) net. How can he NOT be conservative?

 

[OnePercenter]

Middle Class taxpayers have seen their take home pay decline. The bottom 47 percent pay no income tax, the top 10 percent income earners pay 71 percent of the income tax while middle class income earners pay the highest percent of their paycheck to income taxes.

Who is going to deliver relief for the Middle Class and how? For starters, demonizing the wealthy and making the poor pay income taxes are not viable solutions as they do not directly address the Middle Class getting more take home pay.

Disallow states and cities to insensitivise companies going to their particular area with really low tax rates and do what the EU has done and say that all companies must pay the same level of tax within a state or a city, therefore corporations will have to pair a fair share of taxes, which means the Middle Class can pay less.

Leave everything the way it is and raise the minimum wage to $15.00/hr.

 

[OnePercenter]

The President has immense influence over Foreign Trade.

That is true, but so does the free market.

Unless the government operates with free market ideals in mind, then the jobs they create are going to represent something more like welfare that you have to work for.

It should also be noted that if the president signs a free trade deal or lowers a tariff, he is not creating trade. He is just giving more permission back to the market.

Free trade = BULL SHIT

Never has been, never will be. Why do you continue beating a dead horse?

 

[OnePercenter]

The only people who can put more money into any class is the people. Buy made in America, support a raise in wages, raise taxes on those who benefit most from our nation and put that money into infrastructure. Recognize the free market only helps corporations and tax them when they move off shore. As an example look on the roads today and see all the cars that supports unions, healthcare, and in the case of Germany free college. They call it the rust belt for a reason. But Americans today are too partisan hypnotized to see they are being played as suckers.

See here how much high end cars contribute to work in America. 2015
Kogod School of Business Made in America Auto Index

'In 2014, Chevrolet sold 597 cars in Japan. No, we are not forgetting any zeroes at the end of that figure.'
Donald Trump: Chevrolet in Tokyo, Japan, 'doesn't exist'

"While it may come as no shock that luxury-car maker Mercedes-Benz came out atop the list of least-recalled brands, with an average 0.41 units recalled per vehicle sold, General Motors, with nearly 100 million vehicles recalled since 1985, actually placed third-best, with 0.65 cars and trucks recalled per unit sold.

Of the 15 major automakers surveyed, Hyundai Motor Company can lay claim to having the worst ratio, with 1.15 vehicles recalled for every model sold since it introduced the Excel to U.S. buyers in 1986. Other brands found to have recalled more cars than they sold in the U.S. over the last 30 years (needless to say this represents a number of cars for which multiple campaigns were initiated) include Mitsubishi, Volkswagen and Volvo; Chrysler broke even, so to speak, with a one-to-one sales-to-recall ratio. (Scroll down for the full results.)" Automakers With The Lowest (And Highest) Recall Rates


'Toyota leads in recalls again in 2013, with tally topping 5 million vehicles'
http://www.autonews.com/article/201...ls-again-in-2013-with-tally-topping-5-million


'Toyota's Out-of-Control Gas Pedals, 2009 & 2010, Size of Recall: 9 million vehicles Models Affected: 2004-2010 Toyota Avalon, Camry, Corolla, Matrix, Highlander, Prius, RAV4, Tundra, Tacoma and various Lexus models.'....Company officials have estimated the cost of the blunder will top $5 billion after all is said and done, making it the costliest recall ever recorded.' 5 Of The Largest Car Recalls In History | Investopedia

896,600 Reasons to Care About the Trans-Pacific Partnership
Press Releases
Alabama Steelworkers Fight for Their Jobs, Angered By Korea Trade Deal


"If any single number captures the state of the American economy over the last decade, it is zero. That was the net gain in jobs between 1999 and 2009—nada, nil, zip. By painful contrast, from the 1940s through the 1990s, recessions came and went, but no decade ended without at least a 20 percent increase in the number of jobs." http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2010/1003.lynn-longman.html

"The recent job actions and “Black Friday” protests at Walmart underscored the dismal wages and working conditions of many of the nation’s retail workers. Walmart hasn’t staked out some low-wage, no-benefit margin of the labor market: its labor and compensation practices are now the mainstream. For most of the last century, the worst employers in the United States—the tenement sweatshop, the company-town mine—were remnants of our past. Today, they are glimpses into our future." http://www.dissentmagazine.org/blog/the-good-jobs-deficit

"At the top of this list is a trade policy that was designed to put manufacturing workers in direct competition with low-paid workers in the developing world. This had the predicted and actual effect of lowering the wages of U.S. manufacturing workers. Since manufacturing jobs are comparatively well-paying jobs for the 70 percent of the workforce without a college degree, this policy had the effect of lowering wages for this larger group of workers as well." How to Create Middle Class Jobs

Why is it Americans do not call out media sources that criticize American companies for government support while they ignore other nations where government suppliers and manufacturers cooperate and collaborate. Consider imports to Japan (Keiretsu). Why no mention of Japan's embargoes? Fox constantly mentions GM in a negative tone, as do most American conservative media sources. Why not call them out for bias? Rush Limbaugh supports Germany with his auto purchases, while he criticizes America's workers, does anyone notice? Glenn Beck and most of the others never touch the hard topics of fair wages, outsourcing, monetary manipulation, or work in sweat shops that amount to slavery conditions. Now all of a sudden the conservatives are noticing inequality as if it materialized this past year.

"Japan ships 1.5 million cars to America each year, but allows only 20,000 American cars into its own market. Since 2012, Japan’s yen has devalued by 50 percent against the dollar. Now Japan wants tariff-free access to the U.S. market through the TPP while it continues to cheat on currency." see American Manufacturing.org and TPP

Except:

Donald Trump: Chevrolet in Tokyo, Japan, 'doesn't exist'

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Does he?
It sounds like he's co-opted some liberal ideas.

http://graphics.wsj.com/elections/2016/donald-trump-hillary-clinton-on-the-economy

Mr. Trump has embraced calls for more infrastructure spending while promising to refrain from big changes to popular benefit programs such as Social Security and Medicare, which account for a rising share of public spending and, as such, have been a ripe target of conservatives for decades.

You will not like the next 8 years of Trump....

Is there another policy you would like to share?

Jobs....

Steve Jobs?
What policy are you referring to? The link I gave was his jobs proposal.

No, that three letter word lunch bucket Joe always gets confused...

J-o-b-s

Can't link to it?

 

[owebo]

You will not like the next 8 years of Trump....

Is there another policy you would like to share?

Jobs....

Steve Jobs?
What policy are you referring to? The link I gave was his jobs proposal.

No, that three letter word lunch bucket Joe always gets confused...

J-o-b-s

Can't link to it?

Oh, sure...


www.donaldjtrump.com

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Is there another policy you would like to share?

Jobs....

Steve Jobs?
What policy are you referring to? The link I gave was his jobs proposal.

No, that three letter word lunch bucket Joe always gets confused...

J-o-b-s

Can't link to it?

Oh, sure...


www.donaldjtrump.com

Was that hard to do?
Now address how it's any different than any other Republican plan.

It's the usual list.
Tax cuts
Regulatory reform
Expansion of the energy sector
Trade reform
And of course, repeal Obamacare

 

[Indeependent]

Jobs....

Steve Jobs?
What policy are you referring to? The link I gave was his jobs proposal.

No, that three letter word lunch bucket Joe always gets confused...

J-o-b-s

Can't link to it?

Oh, sure...


www.donaldjtrump.com

Was that hard to do?
Now address how it's any different than any other Republican plan.

It's the usual list.
Tax cuts
Regulatory reform
Expansion of the energy sector
Trade reform
And of course, repeal Obamacare

Republicans want trade reform?
Do you watch the ScyFi channel too much?

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Steve Jobs?
What policy are you referring to? The link I gave was his jobs proposal.

No, that three letter word lunch bucket Joe always gets confused...

J-o-b-s

Can't link to it?

Oh, sure...


www.donaldjtrump.com

Was that hard to do?
Now address how it's any different than any other Republican plan.

It's the usual list.
Tax cuts
Regulatory reform
Expansion of the energy sector
Trade reform
And of course, repeal Obamacare

Republicans want trade reform?
Do you watch the ScyFi channel too much?

You're right of course. He threw that one in to maintain his rebellious image.

 

[LaDexter]

A: anyone but Hillary, since the Democrats are obsessed with wiping out the MC because as the "party of the poor," they want more poor Americans... which is why their big government hi tax policies are so good at driving out private sector jobs and making America poorer.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Hillary has already stated she will tax the middle class.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The math has been done, trumps tax plan will put more money into everyone pockets, and a fairly significant amount.

possibly enough to jump the economy.

hillary is promising some pocket change.

Explain how a $15.00/hr minimum wage is 'pocket change?'

When you get 15 per hour for flipping a burger, expect that burger to cost you 13 bucks. Leaving you with 2 dollars, aka chump change

Except a number one meal at McDonalds nets the franchisee $7.00. Raising the Minimum to $15.00/hr would cost said franchisee $0.50, for a net on a number one meal of $6.50.

What is a number 1?

 

[Indeependent]

No, that three letter word lunch bucket Joe always gets confused...

J-o-b-s

Can't link to it?

Oh, sure...


www.donaldjtrump.com

Was that hard to do?
Now address how it's any different than any other Republican plan.

It's the usual list.
Tax cuts
Regulatory reform
Expansion of the energy sector
Trade reform
And of course, repeal Obamacare

Republicans want trade reform?
Do you watch the ScyFi channel too much?

You're right of course. He threw that one in to maintain his rebellious image.

He'a been talking about it for 20 years.
But don't let facts get in the way.
So who's the illegal in your family?

 

[owebo]

Jobs....

Steve Jobs?
What policy are you referring to? The link I gave was his jobs proposal.

No, that three letter word lunch bucket Joe always gets confused...

J-o-b-s

Can't link to it?

Oh, sure...


www.donaldjtrump.com

Was that hard to do?
Now address how it's any different than any other Republican plan.

It's the usual list.
Tax cuts
Regulatory reform
Expansion of the energy sector
Trade reform
And of course, repeal Obamacare

Leviathan reduction....

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

The math has been done, trumps tax plan will put more money into everyone pockets, and a fairly significant amount.

possibly enough to jump the economy.

hillary is promising some pocket change.

Explain how a $15.00/hr minimum wage is 'pocket change?'

When you get 15 per hour for flipping a burger, expect that burger to cost you 13 bucks. Leaving you with 2 dollars, aka chump change

Except a number one meal at McDonalds nets the franchisee $7.00. Raising the Minimum to $15.00/hr would cost said franchisee $0.50, for a net on a number one meal of $6.50.

A Big Mac meal is on average, $5.69. Please tell us how McDonald's could net $7.

 

[Hutch Starskey]

Can't link to it?

Oh, sure...


www.donaldjtrump.com

Was that hard to do?
Now address how it's any different than any other Republican plan.

It's the usual list.
Tax cuts
Regulatory reform
Expansion of the energy sector
Trade reform
And of course, repeal Obamacare

Republicans want trade reform?
Do you watch the ScyFi channel too much?

You're right of course. He threw that one in to maintain his rebellious image.

He'a been talking about it for 20 years.
But don't let facts get in the way.
So who's the illegal in your family?

He won't do anything substantive with trade.

 

[Indeependent]

The math has been done, trumps tax plan will put more money into everyone pockets, and a fairly significant amount.

possibly enough to jump the economy.

hillary is promising some pocket change.

Explain how a $15.00/hr minimum wage is 'pocket change?'

When you get 15 per hour for flipping a burger, expect that burger to cost you 13 bucks. Leaving you with 2 dollars, aka chump change

Except a number one meal at McDonalds nets the franchisee $7.00. Raising the Minimum to $15.00/hr would cost said franchisee $0.50, for a net on a number one meal of $6.50.

A Big Mac meal is on average, $5.69. Please tell us how McDonald's could net $7.

How many sold per hour?

 

[owebo]

Oh, sure...


www.donaldjtrump.com

Was that hard to do?
Now address how it's any different than any other Republican plan.

It's the usual list.
Tax cuts
Regulatory reform
Expansion of the energy sector
Trade reform
And of course, repeal Obamacare

Republicans want trade reform?
Do you watch the ScyFi channel too much?

You're right of course. He threw that one in to maintain his rebellious image.

He'a been talking about it for 20 years.
But don't let facts get in the way.
So who's the illegal in your family?

He won't do anything substantive with trade.

He won't have to, our trade partners will....

 

[Indeependent]

Oh, sure...


www.donaldjtrump.com

Was that hard to do?
Now address how it's any different than any other Republican plan.

It's the usual list.
Tax cuts
Regulatory reform
Expansion of the energy sector
Trade reform
And of course, repeal Obamacare

Republicans want trade reform?
Do you watch the ScyFi channel too much?

You're right of course. He threw that one in to maintain his rebellious image.

He'a been talking about it for 20 years.
But don't let facts get in the way.
So who's the illegal in your family?

He won't do anything substantive with trade.

I disagree.

 

[owebo]

The math has been done, trumps tax plan will put more money into everyone pockets, and a fairly significant amount.

possibly enough to jump the economy.

hillary is promising some pocket change.

Explain how a $15.00/hr minimum wage is 'pocket change?'

When you get 15 per hour for flipping a burger, expect that burger to cost you 13 bucks. Leaving you with 2 dollars, aka chump change

Except a number one meal at McDonalds nets the franchisee $7.00. Raising the Minimum to $15.00/hr would cost said franchisee $0.50, for a net on a number one meal of $6.50.

A Big Mac meal is on average, $5.69. Please tell us how McDonald's could net $7.

The BigMac is a great indicator of inflation....