Which president was worse: Bush or Obama?

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Explain your argument supported by actual objective facts.

Oh and Bush as in GW.
 
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They are about the same, Bush started many destructive policies and Obama simply expanded them after running off ending them. Obama has a few programs like Obamacare that will bring the country down a few notches before it's inevitable collapse. Class war fare allows for mass deficits by way of distraction of the real problem, the real problem is spending on programs that cost too much, fail and then get more resources rather than ending them.
 
You are asking a loaded question and demanding "actual objective facts?"

How about YOU provide the thread and WE comment?

Or ... is this a "Fill in your thread here _________?"
 
Explain your argument supported by actual objective facts.

Oh and Bush as in GW.
Let's see now ......... Largest attack on American soil in history, 2 wars (1 based on lies), unfunded Medicare D, incompetence in appointing FEMA leader, and the US headed toward a major depression as president was leaving office.
Hummmm ..... No new wars, avoided depression and started rebuilding economy, helped remove Ghaddfi from power, killed bin Laden, health care program that will help millions, Syrian president admits to having poison gas and agrees to destroy it without a shot being fired, lowest government spending in years, plans to have US out of wars in 2014.

Tough call!!!!!!!
 
obama is the second worst in the US history. The worst is fdr.


Bush Jr was totally OK president.

 
Maobama is the worst by far, by the time he's gone he will have put us further in debt than all previous presidents combined. Add in the unfunded liabilities maobamacare will cause, he definitely takes the cake.
 
President are defined by Historians using objective criteria.


1. Character and Integrity. Bush B Obama F.


2. Political Skill. Bush D Obama C



3. Accomplishments. Bush C Obama D-


4. Appointments. Bush C Obama D
Crisis Management


5. Leadership Qualities. Bush B Obama F
 
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Explain your argument supported by actual objective facts.

Oh and Bush as in GW.

$4,000,000,000,000 in senseless wars, 50,000 amputees and 6,000 dead...that's just the Americans. A reported 2,000,000 displaced people along with a reported 200,000 dead civilians. That's just Iraq.
How many billions in profits for GE, General Dynamics, Halliburton, Lockheed Martin, KBR, etc.?
So I guess I've made my case.

Let me add to Ron4342's post above: "Wall Street got drunk!" said Bush Jr. and so Henry Paulson, former CEO of Goldman Sachs, wrote the big banks (you know, the ones who are paying out the ass in billions of dollars in fines for corruption now) a $750,000,000,000.00 check right out of the taxpayer's pockets.

I see the posters above me are emotional and rhetorical, rather than using hard data as requested by the O/P.
 
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Bush: Katrina, 9/11, Iraq War, Medicare Part D, Free Speech Zones, Internationally disliked

Obama: ACA rollout, Teleprompter, uh...Born in Kenya?


They are about the same, eh?
 
Obama. No contest. Everything that is wrong with Bush Obama has multiplied.
 
Maobama is the worst by far, by the time he's gone he will have put us further in debt than all previous presidents combined. Add in the unfunded liabilities maobamacare will cause, he definitely takes the cake.

Not undermining the amount of 17 trillions, nevertheless, the amount of blood, including the blood of Americans on fdr hands prevails.
 
President are defined by Historians using objective criteria.


1. Character and Integrity. Bush B Obama F.


2. Political Skill. Bush D Obama C



3. Accomplishments. Bush C Obama D-


4. Appointments. Bush C Obama D
Crisis Management


5. Leadership Qualities. Bush B Obama F
Pleast list the Historians who graded the presidents or where you got your data. Frankly I would be surprised if you could do so. Your grading looks like just another republican wet dream.
 
President are defined by Historians using objective criteria.


1. Character and Integrity. Bush B Obama F.


2. Political Skill. Bush D Obama C



3. Accomplishments. Bush C Obama D-


4. Appointments. Bush C Obama D
Crisis Management


5. Leadership Qualities. Bush B Obama F
Pleast list the Historians who graded the presidents or where you got your data. Frankly I would be surprised if you could do so. Your grading looks like just another republican wet dream.

I would question this data, too, Ron. Accomplishments and Appointments for Obama are much too high.
 
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Explain your argument supported by actual objective facts.

Oh and Bush as in GW.

There is really not much difference between them in my opinion both are big government big spending Presidents many of the anti terror policies started by Bush after 9-11 have been continued by Obama they vary on a few social issues abortion and gay marriage mainly though if I remember correctly Obama didn't fully support gay marriage until the 2012 election. My personal view is both are middle of the pack as Presidents go not the worst ever but not in the top ten either.
 

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