White House delays employer mandate requirement until 2015

[DiamondDave]

How can we fix Obamacare?

Eliminate it and start focusing on the actual problems in healthcare.. Work on opening up competition, reduce the cost raising issues like bogus lawsuits, open up tax free medical savings accounts for everyone, let people have more choices in levels of insurance coverage...

KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING HEALTHCARE AND HEALTH INSURANCE

Nice speech.



The top ten health insurance companies own close to 50% of the policies.

Largest US Health Insurance Companies

How can you create competition with numbers like that?

btw; The HMO act of 1973 created competition by establishing all HMO's be non-profit. Reagan screwed that up by allowing profit companies to own HMO's. Premiums jumped 180% during Reagan/Bush, leveled off during Clinton, then jumped 160% during baby Bush. See a pattern there?



With all of the 'bogus lawsuits', UnitedHealth Group Net (cash take-home) of $5.1billion. Not bad!

open up tax free medical savings accounts for everyone

MSA's, flexible spending accounts, health Reimbursement Account's, and health savings account's aren't enough?

let people have more choices in levels of insurance coverage...

Such as?

Our current health care system isn't doing such a great job:

New Health Rankings: Of 17 Nations, U.S. Is Dead Last - Grace Rubenstein - The Atlantic

World Health Organization?s Ranking of the World?s Health Systems | thepatientfactor.com

1) Insurance companies are not competing on a national level... other groups besides employers are not in the group rate game.. If you had the option of group coverage from your employer, your Elks club, your HOA, your bowling league, your church, your alumni organization, etc.. you would have the demand that drives the options
2) The industry is huge, of course a successful company will have big numbers.. this is like the lefties complaining about the profits from big oil, yet it is the GOVERNMENT that takes in the most money while the companies invest ungodly amounts of money to do the actual work
3) WHO numbers have been debunked REPEATEDLY
4) You are an idiot

 

[Stephanie]

It must be nice to be a King and just change things with a snap of the fingers with this piece of crap legislation he forced on the people

this man is absolute DISGRACE

 

[dblack]

It must be nice to be a King and just change things with a snap of the fingers with this piece of crap legislation he forced on the people

this man is absolute DISGRACE

That's the whole point of "laws" like PPACA. We're moving away from rule of law and toward rule of regulatory regime where our leaders have ultimate power to decide winners and losers in society

 

[Claudette]

How about we forget this and start over?

Republicans had their chance. They didn't want to play.

What do you mean the Reps had a chance to play?? What a load of horseshit.

Dems had control of both the House and the Senate. They never wanted any Reps involved in the ACA. Nor did the Reps want any involvment in that POS.

They passed that POS all on they're own. The got they're asses kicked in the next election cycle and that the reason this POS bill may be implemented in 2015. After the election.

Of course they are trying to exempt themselves and staff from the ACA. That should tell anyone with half a brain cell working just exactly how crappy this POS is. Its okay for we taxpayers to get stuck with it but not those assholes.

 

[Katzndogz]

Delaying certain provisions while leaving others in place might not be legal. obama does not get to pick and choose which laws he will or will not enforce. That's not his job. It is the subject of yet another investigation.

 

[Stephanie]

Delaying certain provisions while leaving others in place might not be legal. obama does not get to pick and choose which laws he will or will not enforce. That's not his job. It is the subject of yet another investigation.

what did we expect from a damn community organizer (agitator)?

he taught constitutional law MY ASS

 

[Stephanie]

whoo boy..just ran across this..Roberts deserves it

SNIP:
Obama Cuckolds John Roberts with ObamCare Delay
Mark J. Fitzgibbons




When Chief Justice John Roberts upheld the Patient Affordability Care Act, many of us considered him derelict in his duty to enforce the Constitution. He engaged in judicial activism to give the appearance of avoiding judicial activism. He wrote:


"Members of this Court are vested with the authority to interpret the law; we possess neither the expertise nor the prerogative to make policy judgments. Those decisions are entrusted to our Nation's elected leaders, who can be thrown out of office if the people disagree with them. It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices."



In that same opinion, Roberts engaged in the remarkable act of redefining the individual mandate as a tax in order to uphold ObamaCare.



President Obama's bullying the Supreme Court seemed to work on Roberts. Obama may have the last laugh -- yet again -- on the chief justice.



Apparently without consulting Congress, which has become its governing trademark, the Obama administration announced that it will delay implementation of the ObamaCare employer mandate.



Employers with 50 or more employees will welcome the delayed enforcement. So will the employees who get to remain employees because the added costs of the mandate won't cut their jobs, or make employers with 52 employees scale back to 49. It will not rub these people wrong why -- or how -- this delay occurred.



The Wall Street Journal writes
about the effective date of the employer mandate:

"The Affordable Care Act's Section 1513 states in black-letter law that '(d) Effective Date.-The amendments made by this section shall apply to months beginning after December 31, 2013.' It does not say the Administration can impose the mandate whenever it feels it is politically convenient."

all of it here
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[Stephanie]

more on this disgraceful piece of shit legislation that was FORCED on us people AND some all haled Obama for

SNIP:
An Obamacare Surrender
Delaying the employer mandate signals massive system failure, not mere incompetence.

By Rich Lowry


Rich Lowry
Washington is riven by conflict and deep-seated division. It is rare indeed when both sides can agree on anything consequential. Therefore it is incredibly heartening that there is now bipartisan agreement that the implementation of Obamacare is a mess.

Republicans have long maintained this, but now the Obama administration has lent its implicit assent with its astonishing decision to delay by a year the law’s employer mandate. This is what the administration calls, via a blog post by the Treasury Department’s assistant secretary for tax policy that announced the decision, “Continuing to Implement the ACA in a Careful, Thoughtful Manner.”


The Treasury Notes blog can call it whatever it wants, but there is no hiding the embarrassment of a climb-down on a high-profile feature of President Barack Obama’s signature initiative. Although the administration was determined to do all it could to hide it. Obama was apparently planning to announce it on July 3 — only because the day before Thanksgiving or Christmas Eve was too far off.
The purported reason for the delay is incompetence. The administration’s story is that it simply couldn’t find a way to implement the insurance-reporting requirements on employers in the time frame set out in the law. Merely as a side effect, it had to put off the mandate and the $2,000-per-employee fine on employers with more than 50 employees who don’t offer health coverage.

This just happens to be the mandate that is causing howls of pain from businesses and creating perverse incentives for them to limit their hiring or to hire part-time rather than full-time employees. And it just happens that 2015 — the new target for implementation — is after a midterm election year rather than during one.

Explaining the decision, Obama apparatchik Valerie Jarrett issued a stalwart communiqué from Central Command that should take an honored place in the annals of blatant, unembarrassed hackery.

Her message was: All is well. Nothing to see here. Yes, maybe we’ve delayed implementation of the (hilariously euphemistic) “employer responsibility payments,” aka fines, but don’t worry, it’s “full steam ahead” with the health-care exchanges this October.

Jarrett portrayed the decision as about “cutting red tape.” But if you pass a horrendously complicated law placing new burdens on employers, you aren’t cutting red tape, you are adding to it. And a delay doesn’t cut red tape — it delays it.

all of it here
An Obamacare Surrender | National Review Online

 

[OnePercenter]

thanks to Obama-Care, within a year we will all be charged 5.00 per-word when we speak to the receptionist. then to use the restroom.

Did you know that the 'Obama phone' was actually signed into law by Ronald Reagan?

they didnt have smart phones back then. I am paying for lazy ass fuck heads that have better phones than I do...

Perhaps if you weren't such a lazy ass fuck head you to would have a smart phone.

 

[OnePercenter]

I can't believe that we live in an America today where any/most medical bills (even basic/simple appts.) cost more than a weeks pay !!! thanks to Obama-Care !!!! aka "Affordable-Care"....hmm, maybe its affordable for those who make over $250,00 a year?

If you want to place blame for the healthcare crisis you need to blame Reagan for fucking with the HMO act.

 

[OnePercenter]

Eliminate it and start focusing on the actual problems in healthcare.. Work on opening up competition, reduce the cost raising issues like bogus lawsuits, open up tax free medical savings accounts for everyone, let people have more choices in levels of insurance coverage...

KEEP GOVERNMENT OUT OF THE BUSINESS OF PROVIDING HEALTHCARE AND HEALTH INSURANCE

Nice speech.



The top ten health insurance companies own close to 50% of the policies.

Largest US Health Insurance Companies

How can you create competition with numbers like that?

btw; The HMO act of 1973 created competition by establishing all HMO's be non-profit. Reagan screwed that up by allowing profit companies to own HMO's. Premiums jumped 180% during Reagan/Bush, leveled off during Clinton, then jumped 160% during baby Bush. See a pattern there?



With all of the 'bogus lawsuits', UnitedHealth Group Net (cash take-home) of $5.1billion. Not bad!



MSA's, flexible spending accounts, health Reimbursement Account's, and health savings account's aren't enough?

let people have more choices in levels of insurance coverage...

Such as?

Our current health care system isn't doing such a great job:

New Health Rankings: Of 17 Nations, U.S. Is Dead Last - Grace Rubenstein - The Atlantic

World Health Organization?s Ranking of the World?s Health Systems | thepatientfactor.com

1) Insurance companies are not competing on a national level... other groups besides employers are not in the group rate game.. If you had the option of group coverage from your employer, your Elks club, your HOA, your bowling league, your church, your alumni organization, etc.. you would have the demand that drives the options
2) The industry is huge, of course a successful company will have big numbers.. this is like the lefties complaining about the profits from big oil, yet it is the GOVERNMENT that takes in the most money while the companies invest ungodly amounts of money to do the actual work
3) WHO numbers have been debunked REPEATEDLY
4) You are an idiot

1) How about the AARP?

AARP Health

2) The 'lefties' are complaining about the oil industry making HUGE profits while collecting tens of billions in taxpayer subsidies. The Democrats want to end the subsidies, the Republicans don't.

3) Really? Please demonstrate.

4) I don't vote Republican to reduce my taxes. I let idiots like you. Three percent effective for 2012....Cha-Ching!

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

it's going to collapse before 2014 when only a handful of victims fall for the exchanges. whats the point of buying government run health care when you know we already have a doctor shortage? by the time u get an appt. u are already 3 feet under.

 

[Katzndogz]

You think you will see a doctor? Where did you get that idea? You will see a physician's assistant. If you get sick go to the minute ckinic at CVS?

 

[TheSeventhTiger]

Obama-Care, walk into the doctors office, fill out the form, $250.00,,,,oh, u wanna use the restroom? $5.00 a TP Sheet. What? you need to see a doctor? oh, that's another $350.00, and if u drink water from the cooler, $3.50 a cone.

 

[OnePercenter]

Obama-Care, walk into the doctors office, fill out the form, $250.00,,,,oh, u wanna use the restroom? $5.00 a TP Sheet. What? you need to see a doctor? oh, that's another $350.00, and if u drink water from the cooler, $3.50 a cone.

It's the Reagan phone!