Who can explain the logic?

[toomuchtime_]

The Russian army brought their parade uniforms with them when they invaded in February.

Putin was not expecting resistance.

Why would he? Surely if he shouted loud enough and make enough threats everyone would become frightened and obey his commands, right? And then the parades.

 

[Litwin]

The Russian army brought their parade uniforms with them when they invaded in February.

Putin was not expecting resistance.

MUCH LIKE 99 % OF OUR MOSCOW CENTRATED military post - modernist EXPERTS

 

[Donald H]

To the Russian mind, but the civilized countries of the world created the Geneva Conventions, which Russia has now rejected, to try to protect civilians.

Now you Americans should know that's bullshit!
America created the largest mass grave in world history in Iraq by plowing many hundreds of Iraqis under the desert sands.

And to top it all off, the entire war was started by America based on lies, lies, lies.

America has demonstrated and is guilty of more egregious crimes against humanity than crimes dealt with at Nourembourg!
Evil war crimes are never pursued against a victorious army, but history still gets it on the record.

 

[Litwin]

largest mass grave in world history in Iraq by plowing many hundreds of Iraqis under the desert sands.

ivan, provide us with a link ?

 

[Donald H]

ivan, provide us with a link ?

You've made yourself useful to me!

'What I saw was a bunch of filled-in trenches with people's arms and legs sticking out of them. For all I know, we could have killed thousands'

Patrick J Sloyan on how the mass slaughter of a group of Iraqis went unreported.

www.theguardian.com

 

[toomuchtime_]

Now you Americans should know that's bullshit!
America created the largest mass grave in world history in Iraq by plowing many hundreds of Iraqis under the desert sands.

And to top it all off, the entire war was started by America based on lies, lies, lies.

America has demonstrated and is guilty of more egregious crimes against humanity than crimes dealt with at Nourembourg!
Evil war crimes are never pursued against a victorious army, but history still gets it on the record.

Whether you agree with the Iraq war or not, the US observed the Geneva Conventions and alleged infractions of them were hotly debated in the US as well as in Europe. Russia, on the other hand, recognizes no limitations on its actions by international law or by treaties, and has explicitly rejected those parts of the Geneva Conventions' having to do with the protection of civilians.

With respect to their actions in war, the US may be imperfect, but Russia by rejecting international law and treaties as limits on its actions can no longer be considered part of the civilized world.

 

[Donald H]

Whether you agree with the Iraq war or not, the US observed the Geneva Conventions and alleged infractions of them were hotly debated in the US as well as in Europe. Russia, on the other hand, recognizes no limitations on its actions by international law or by treaties, and has explicitly rejected those parts of the Geneva Conventions' having to do with the protection of civilians.

With respect to their actions in war, the US may be imperfect, but Russia by rejecting international law and treaties as limits on its actions can no longer be considered part of the civilized world.

You're as full of bullshit as your country's propagandists. Russia hasn't rejected international laws.

Why not try to tell us all how Russia committed crimes that the US didn't commit in one of it's 40 wars. Pick your favourite and if you can't then you might want to consider shutting your mealy cakehole? I mean fuuuuuuuu....... you people??

 

[toomuchtime_]

You've made yourself useful to me!

'What I saw was a bunch of filled-in trenches with people's arms and legs sticking out of them. For all I know, we could have killed thousands'

Patrick J Sloyan on how the mass slaughter of a group of Iraqis went unreported.

www.theguardian.com

So Iraqi soldiers died fighting and you compare that to Russia deliberately targeting civilians? Have you no moral values at all?

 

[toomuchtime_]

You're as full of bullshit as your country's propagandists. Russia hasn't rejected international laws.

Why not try to tell us all how Russia committed crimes that the US didn't commit in one of it's 40 wars. Pick your favourite and if you can't then you might want to consider shutting your mealy cakehole? I mean fuuuuuuuu....... you people??

The US did not target civilians and Russia does.

 

[Donald H]

The US did not target civilians and Russia does.

Mercifully, America used napalm on the children

Phan Thi Kim Phuc - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The shock and awe effect deadened the pain.

 

[Litwin]

You've made yourself useful to me!

'What I saw was a bunch of filled-in trenches with people's arms and legs sticking out of them. For all I know, we could have killed thousands'

Patrick J Sloyan on how the mass slaughter of a group of Iraqis went unreported.

www.theguardian.com

whats wrong with killing armed barbariens ? what can we do if you oriental thugs SUCK AT WAR ?

8,400 soldiers of the US First Infantry Division - known as the Big Red One - had attacked an estimated 8,000 Iraqis with 3,000 Abrams main battle tanks, Bradley fighting vehicles, Humvees and armoured personnel carriers.

COMPERE this story with your crimes against humanity , which are still can´t be investigated

Kurapaty (Belarusian: Курапаты, IPA: [kuraˈpatɨ]) is a wooded area on the outskirts of Minsk, Belarus, in which a vast number of people were executed between 1937 and 1941 during the Great Purge by the Soviet secret police, the NKVD.[1]

The exact count of victims is uncertain, as NKVD archives are classified in Belarus.[2] According to various sources the number of people who perished in Kurapaty is estimated to be at least 30,000 (according to the Attorney General of BSSR Tarnaŭski), up to 100,000 people (according to “Belarus” reference book),[2][3] from 102,000 to 250,000 people (according to the article by Zianon Pazniak in the “Litaratura i Mastactva” newspaper),[4][5] 250,000 people (according to Polish historian and professor of University of Wrocław Zdzisław Julian Winnicki),[6] and more (according to the British historian Norman Davies).[7] Most of the victims were the Belarusian intelligentsia.[1]

Kurapaty - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[toomuchtime_]

Mercifully, America used napalm on the children

Phan Thi Kim Phuc - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The shock and awe effect deadened the pain.

Again, the US did not target civilians and Russia does. What part of that are you unable to understand? Even more, in 2019 Russia rejected the provisions of the Geneva Conventions protecting civilians, meaning that to the Russian mind targeting civilians is no different from targeting military personnel, presumable making genocide of Ukrainians just another day at the office.

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin has revoked an additional protocol to the Geneva Conventions related to the protection of victims of international armed conflicts, a Russian parliamentary website cites a letter from him as saying.

The Additional Protocol I to the 1949 Geneva Convention was ratified by the Soviet Union’s Supreme Council, or parliament, in 1989.

Russia's Putin revokes Geneva convention protocol on war crimes victims

Russian President Vladimir Putin has revoked an additional protocol to the Geneva Conventions related to the protection of victims of international armed conflicts, a Russian parliamentary website cites a letter from him as saying.

www.reuters.com

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Mercifully, America used napalm on the children

Phan Thi Kim Phuc - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

The shock and awe effect deadened the pain.

My Lai Was a Viet Cong Stronghold

That retaliation saved the lives of our troops, whom Chickenhawks and their Commie classmates despise.

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

Again, the US did not target civilians and Russia does. What part of that are you unable to understand? Even more, in 2019 Russia rejected the provisions of the Geneva Conventions protecting civilians, meaning that to the Russian mind targeting civilians is no different from targeting military personnel, presumable making genocide of Ukrainians just another day at the office.

MOSCOW (Reuters) - Russian President Vladimir Putin has revoked an additional protocol to the Geneva Conventions related to the protection of victims of international armed conflicts, a Russian parliamentary website cites a letter from him as saying.

The Additional Protocol I to the 1949 Geneva Convention was ratified by the Soviet Union’s Supreme Council, or parliament, in 1989.

Russia's Putin revokes Geneva convention protocol on war crimes victims

Russian President Vladimir Putin has revoked an additional protocol to the Geneva Conventions related to the protection of victims of international armed conflicts, a Russian parliamentary website cites a letter from him as saying.

www.reuters.com

Partisan Is a Contraction of "Partly Insane"

Right Wing chickenhawk sissyboys demonize Putin only to make Bi-den look like a doormat no foreign leader is afraid of.

 

[Donald H]

My Lai Was a Viet Cong Stronghold

That retaliation saved the lives of our troops, whom Chickenhawks and their Commie classmates despise.

Whether or not that's true Sage, it doesn't speak anything to the photo of children who only received survivable burns.
We can imagine the many more who didn't make it out of the village and were either dead or were burning alive.

The point being Sage, Russia has taken precautions all along to evacuate the towns it's levelled to the ground.

Russia has destroyed half of the Ukraine's energy resources, it's reported by US/Nato.

The reason for doing that being, it's within the rules agreed upon for this war.

Apparently both Moscow and Kiev are untouchable so far, but that could change at any time.

Why is winning concessions from Russia so important that America won't allow peace to be negotiated on Russia's terms of the Donbass becoming neutral territory?

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

[Whether or not] that's true Sage, ......


The reason for doing that being, it's within the rules agreed upon for this war
that could change at any time.

Why is winning concessions from Russia so important that America won't allow peace to be negotiated on Russia's terms of the Donbass becoming neutral territory?

One Way of Getting Secession Is to Convict Gen. Sherman of War Crimes and Award the South Independence As Reparations. That Is the Law in This Weakling Era.

Putin will have to soon go to a Scorched Earth policy. That's what he did in Chechnya (after the drunken Yeltsin lost the war there, looking over his shoulder at World Opinion). The capital, Grozny, was the most devastated city since World War II. Yet the surviving Chechens, respecting manly strength, are at present among the most loyal Putinistas.

 

[Donald H]

Putin will have to soon go to a Scorched Earth policy. That's what he did in Chechnya (after the drunken Yeltsin lost the war there, looking over his shoulder at World Opinion). The capital, Grozny, was the most devastated city since World War II. Yet the surviving Chechens, respecting manly strength, are at present among the most loyal Putinistas.

I can see how some of the mutually agreed upon rules will be discarded and that could result in a scorched earth policy by Russia.

I just can't see how all the rules can continue to apply.

That is, short of nuclear war that must always apply, but that doesn't rule out Russia's use of nuclear weapons against the Ukraine. That could happen and there be no US/Nato response in kind because nuclear war is prohibited.

Even if the Ukraine was accepted into the Nato fold, that rule would still apply.

Most objective observers are now concluding that the Ukraine can't win.



At least the last 5 minutes.

 

[toomuchtime_]

One Way of Getting Secession Is to Convict Gen. Sherman of War Crimes and Award the South Independence As Reparations. That Is the Law in This Weakling Era.

Putin will have to soon go to a Scorched Earth policy. That's what he did in Chechnya (after the drunken Yeltsin lost the war there, looking over his shoulder at World Opinion). The capital, Grozny, was the most devastated city since World War II. Yet the surviving Chechens, respecting manly strength, are at present among the most loyal Putinistas.

Nonsense, the first Chechen war ended in 1997 with a peace treaty that preserved Chechnya's relation to Russia but allowed the Chechen government greater control over domestic issues. Two years later Putin invaded Chechnya again but couldn't defeat the Chechen military until he managed to get Kadyrov's father, a Chechen warlord, to betray his own people and take power in Chechnya with Russian support. Far from being loyal to Russia, Kadyrov puts down any criticism even more savagely than Putin does; nonetheless, he brough only a relatively small contingent of soldiers to fight Putin's war because he needs most of his soldiers to keep control of Chechnya and there are many loyal Chechens who are fighting with Ukraine against Russia today.

You might also consider that Chechnya is a tiny country with a small population and no allies and yet the Russian army was never able to capture it without the help of Chechen traitors. Russia clearly is not the country you'd like to think it is.