JakeStarkey
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Mods, please put this in the Elections Forum, where it belongs.
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Great, thanks.And I pointed out that I agree that you do not understand about these matters. My pointing this out is not trolling in the slightest, but it applies directly to the OP. You don't get it. That has been quite obvious for some time about you, Mac.I was referring specifically to the OP. Please stop trolling..I am in firm agreement with you that you are "not sure about the specifics" of polling. Rasmussen, Nate Silver, and other polls are very clear that HRC did much better than Trump. Please stay with the OP.I don't know what this means. Jake, you really don't need to insult people with whom you disagree..We are aware of your problem.I'm not even sure what the term "won" means.Gr
The only way to determine a "victor" is if it clearly sways the polls. Everything else is the typical partisan noise.
I've heard that "the polls" have favored Hillary in general since the debate, but I'm not sure about the specifics.
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The fact is that RCP, Nate Silver, Rasmussen, etc., are quite sure that Hillary easily won the debate.
Great, thanks. Only partisans get it. I'm good with that..And I pointed out that I agree that you do not understand about these matters. My pointing this out is not trolling in the slightest, but it applies directly to the OP. You don't get it. That has been quite obvious for some time about you, Mac.I was referring specifically to the OP. Please stop trolling..I am in firm agreement with you that you are "not sure about the specifics" of polling. Rasmussen, Nate Silver, and other polls are very clear that HRC did much better than Trump. Please stay with the OP.I don't know what this means. Jake, you really don't need to insult people with whom you disagree..We are aware of your problem.
The fact is that RCP, Nate Silver, Rasmussen, etc., are quite sure that Hillary easily won the debate.
It gets worse as you move into national political debates like this. While the partisans enjoy the "gotcha" questions as opportunities to hurt the other side, most of us would much prefer questions that ask specifically what they would do in office, and how they would react in any given situation (particularly in foreign affairs).Debates these days consist of each person not answering a question and going into attack mode.
When I was on my high school debating team, the proctor would remind us that a debate is neither won or lost but is each persons view of the question and that each person is right depending.on their belief. Debates merely discuss the pros and cons and the goal isn't to win a gold medal but to expound on the subject matter.
How many threads have you made on this?
Chris Wallace.Anderson cooper is up next but who is going to be the 3rd moderator?
Don't tell LoneLaugher thatLefties point to polls that "say" Hillary own, Righties point to polls that "say" Trump won.
I know this will come as a complete shock to partisans, but the question is subjective.
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Determining who won that debate is not subjective. It is a fact that Hillary Clinton performed better than Trump in that debate.
You don't understand terms and definitions. The polls are scientifically conducted. The "fact" is that people overwhelmingly believe that Clinton did much better than Trump. They will vote on that fact.Determining who won that debate is not subjective. It is a fact that Hillary Clinton performed better than Trump in that debate.
My Gawd, you really are just that stupid, aren't you?
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Debate is a judged competition like gymnastics or dance.
It is ENTIRELY SUBJECTIVE, ass hole.
I think the following is safe to say about the debates:One of the more obvious symptoms of being afflicted with hardcore partisan ideology is conflating fact with opinion.
There is no known cure!
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Trump did win the incoherent and rudeness awards hands down.
Hillary won for best non reaction to asshatness.