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If tax reform becomes law, you'll see the economy start to move again, something the Trump haters (both Democrats and Republicans) don't want to happen.
it keeps OUR and YOUR tax rates higher than they would have to be...it allows them to keep more of their money and forces us to keep less of ours.Does it allow people to work less for the government and more for themselves?
If yes. I support.
If no. I don't.
Principles over politics
And how does allowing someone to keep more of their money force you to keep less of yours?
If tax reform becomes law, you'll see the economy start to move again, something the Trump haters (both Democrats and Republicans) don't want to happen.
This idiot "forgets" that under GWB's tax cuts (that were also extended by Obama) gave us the recession of 2008-2009.
Good Lord, conservatives are truly fucked up in their half brain......NOW they want to screw it up AGAIN..... Go figure....
here's the thing though, corporations are wallowing in cash RIGHT NOW, yet they are not spending it.Yeah, $20 trillion. Half of it accumulated under Obama (who you praise).Do we have a debt?
Historically, lowering taxes brings more money into the government because lowering corporate taxes creates jobs, resulting in more people paying taxes who paid NONE when they were not working. But I wouldn't expect an idiot like you to understand.Does lowering taxes...especially on Trump's cronies...help pay off that debt?
here's the thing though, corporations are wallowing in cash RIGHT NOW, yet they are not spending it.
Well, to be fair, they do spend some of that cash to BRIBE Congress.....
When I first saw this thread my first inclination was that lobbyist would have more influence with what gets through congress than whatever Trump wishes. Call me cynical but I think that comment you made right there is the heart of things. I'm not at all pleased with how they're going about all these things with not a whole lot of chance for public comment.
Starting to think Nat needs some psychiatric help with the way he laughs at everything
here's the thing though, corporations are wallowing in cash RIGHT NOW, yet they are not spending it.Yeah, $20 trillion. Half of it accumulated under Obama (who you praise).Do we have a debt?
Historically, lowering taxes brings more money into the government because lowering corporate taxes creates jobs, resulting in more people paying taxes who paid NONE when they were not working. But I wouldn't expect an idiot like you to understand.Does lowering taxes...especially on Trump's cronies...help pay off that debt?
When I first saw this thread my first inclination was that lobbyist would have more influence with what gets through congress than whatever Trump wishes. Call me cynical but I think that comment you made right there is the heart of things. I'm not at all pleased with how they're going about all these things with not a whole lot of chance for public comment.
My friend, we are in the stupid opinion that Congress writes Bills......Our elected officials mostly do NOT....both the bills and the accompanying CFRs are written by the lobbyists and given for presentation to whomever they funded to get elected..
When I first saw this thread my first inclination was that lobbyist would have more influence with what gets through congress than whatever Trump wishes. Call me cynical but I think that comment you made right there is the heart of things. I'm not at all pleased with how they're going about all these things with not a whole lot of chance for public comment.
My friend, we are in the stupid opinion that Congress writes Bills......Our elected officials mostly do NOT....both the bills and the accompanying CFRs are written by the lobbyists and given for presentation to whomever they funded to get elected..
And how does allowing someone to keep more of their money force you to keep less of you're?
Stop asking moronic questions and answer these instead:
Do we have a debt?
Does lowering taxes...especially on Trump's cronies...help pay off that debt?
Do we have some serious ecological payments to make to TX, FL, PR and VI?
To address the above, do we have to go further in debt?
So, giving them a bigger tax break will NOT necessarily bring more jobs for new workers that would bring in more taxes... to pay for the tax cut and make it "Revenue Neutral" and not add the $2.2 TRILLION that this tax cut is estimated to ADD to the National debt.here's the thing though, corporations are wallowing in cash RIGHT NOW, yet they are not spending it.Yeah, $20 trillion. Half of it accumulated under Obama (who you praise).Do we have a debt?
Historically, lowering taxes brings more money into the government because lowering corporate taxes creates jobs, resulting in more people paying taxes who paid NONE when they were not working. But I wouldn't expect an idiot like you to understand.Does lowering taxes...especially on Trump's cronies...help pay off that debt?
So ?
So, giving them a bigger tax break will NOT necessarily bring more jobs, to bring in more taxes... to pay for the tax cut and make it "Revenue Neutral" and not add the $2.2 TRILLION that this tax cut is estimated to ADD to the National debt.here's the thing though, corporations are wallowing in cash RIGHT NOW, yet they are not spending it.Yeah, $20 trillion. Half of it accumulated under Obama (who you praise).Do we have a debt?
Historically, lowering taxes brings more money into the government because lowering corporate taxes creates jobs, resulting in more people paying taxes who paid NONE when they were not working. But I wouldn't expect an idiot like you to understand.Does lowering taxes...especially on Trump's cronies...help pay off that debt?
So ?
Not spending the boo-coos of extra cash they have on hand now, without expansion, is a tell tale sign, that they will not.So, giving them a bigger tax break will NOT necessarily bring more jobs, to bring in more taxes... to pay for the tax cut and make it "Revenue Neutral" and not add the $2.2 TRILLION that this tax cut is estimated to ADD to the National debt.here's the thing though, corporations are wallowing in cash RIGHT NOW, yet they are not spending it.Yeah, $20 trillion. Half of it accumulated under Obama (who you praise).Do we have a debt?
Historically, lowering taxes brings more money into the government because lowering corporate taxes creates jobs, resulting in more people paying taxes who paid NONE when they were not working. But I wouldn't expect an idiot like you to understand.Does lowering taxes...especially on Trump's cronies...help pay off that debt?
So ?
When you say not necessarily....you are saying probably not.
You have no way of knowing.
BTW: Since Trump was elected...my company has repurposed a lot of capital from off-shore to stay here.
Not spending the boo-coos of extra cash they have on hand now, without expansion, is a tell tale sign, that they will not.So, giving them a bigger tax break will NOT necessarily bring more jobs, to bring in more taxes... to pay for the tax cut and make it "Revenue Neutral" and not add the $2.2 TRILLION that this tax cut is estimated to ADD to the National debt.here's the thing though, corporations are wallowing in cash RIGHT NOW, yet they are not spending it.Yeah, $20 trillion. Half of it accumulated under Obama (who you praise).
Historically, lowering taxes brings more money into the government because lowering corporate taxes creates jobs, resulting in more people paying taxes who paid NONE when they were not working. But I wouldn't expect an idiot like you to understand.
So ?
When you say not necessarily....you are saying probably not.
You have no way of knowing.
BTW: Since Trump was elected...my company has repurposed a lot of capital from off-shore to stay here.
I think they should try to figure it out before congress jumps out of the frying pan and in to the fire...Not spending the boo-coos of extra cash they have on hand now, without expansion, is a tell tale sign, that they will not.So, giving them a bigger tax break will NOT necessarily bring more jobs, to bring in more taxes... to pay for the tax cut and make it "Revenue Neutral" and not add the $2.2 TRILLION that this tax cut is estimated to ADD to the National debt.here's the thing though, corporations are wallowing in cash RIGHT NOW, yet they are not spending it.
So ?
When you say not necessarily....you are saying probably not.
You have no way of knowing.
BTW: Since Trump was elected...my company has repurposed a lot of capital from off-shore to stay here.
There is no correlation.
That they were and are (in some instances) hoarding is a fact.
What's behind it is not clear. And what will happen cannot be predicted.
How does he have any choice? When he tried to work with Dems, the liberal base went nuts...even when they got what they claimed they wanted...right now, the tax plan adds $2.2 trillion to the National debt...
in order to make it revenue neutral, he's gonna have to get rid of those loop holes...
BTW, this is NOT Trump's tax plan, it's Ryan's and McConnell's with some direction from Trump's Goldman Sach's guys...
It isn't anything like or even near what President Trump promised...it is merely the Republican Establishment's DREAM... it's why they decided to vote for him, they as in, the R establishment...to get their rich man's dream tax gift through...to their donors...not Trump's.
honestly, I'd rather have President Trump go with his instincts on this, as he did in the race, than push this Republican establishment plan....I think he's making a mistake to trust Ryan and McConnell on this....they already duped him once, with health care reform.... I think he may feel he owes them...but they are simply opportunists and are using him on this, imo.