Who is more religious, Donald Trump or Pete Buttigieg?

[EvilCat Breath]

Who is more religious, Donald Trump or Pete Buttigieg?

Since I have a pretty good idea of how trump lives; lies, cheats, cons people, stiffs his creditors, insults the dead, pisses on the constitution, insults soldiers, cheats at golf, grabs pussy....

it's pretty obvious that Buttigieg, even if he was an atheist, would be more religious than trump.

Trump doesn't pretend to be a religious leader. Buttplug imagines himself as the nation's pastor with his boyfriend's shit smeared on his thighs.

 

[mudwhistle]

I'd say Pete Buttigieg by a mile!

Serious????
Buttplug isn't religious.

 

[Penelope]

Neither. Trump has no particular interest in religion. Nor has he indicated any opinion on gays.

Buttplug has no religion. He is an abomination to Christianity. His interest in religion is superficial at best.

WRONG! Pete Buttigieg is a member of the Episcopalian Church and is a congregant at the Cathedral Of St. James in downtown South Bend Indiana. Pete Buttigieg got married at the Cathedral of St. James last summer. I don't see anything that Buttigieg has done that would make him and abomination to Christianity. He is a veteran of the United States Navy serving 8 years. He served in the war in Afghanistan. He is far ahead of Trump in terms of living a Christian life of service.

According to the Bible homosexuality is an abomination. He cannot live a Christian life fucking another man.

He was in the Naval Reserve not active military. His unit was called up. Don't make it more than it was.

According to Paul and according to Paul women should be submissive to men and keep quiet. The only thing they are good for is making babies.

 

[Cecilie1200]

Neither. Trump has no particular interest in religion. Nor has he indicated any opinion on gays.

Buttplug has no religion. He is an abomination to Christianity. His interest in religion is superficial at best.

WRONG! Pete Buttigieg is a member of the Episcopalian Church and is a congregant at the Cathedral Of St. James in downtown South Bend Indiana. Pete Buttigieg got married at the Cathedral of St. James last summer. I don't see anything that Buttigieg has done that would make him and abomination to Christianity. He is a veteran of the United States Navy serving 8 years. He served in the war in Afghanistan. He is far ahead of Trump in terms of living a Christian life of service.

You mean aside from engaging in homosexual behavior, which the Bible calls an abomination?

Oh, wait, let me guess. You want to use the Bible to condemn Trump, but then think it's wrong when it's applied to people you like, right?

You know nothing about either of them personally. You also clearly know very little about religious morality, however much you want to pretend you're qualified to address the subject. If you did, you would know that presuming to judge the state of someone else's soul and relationship with God is the sin of hubris.

 

[U2Edge]

is it important?

It is to me and others who equate religious belief with good moral behavior and integrity. It certainly tends to be important to conservatives and Republicans who on average have deeper faith and are more religious than Democrats.

Really? So if you're suddenly so all-fired concerned about "good moral behavior and integrity", presumably as represented by the Bible and other religious teachings (since you asked who was more religious), does that mean you agree that homosexual relationships are sinful?

Or is this a catch-all "Conservatives should agree with me on morality, and on hating Donald Trump and believing he should die!" sort of deal?

Nope, I agree with Episcopalians and other Christian denominations that say homosexual relationships are not sinful.

The poll is perfect for this forum since it leans to the right, and those that lean to the right tend to be more religious. There is a lot of support for Donald Trump in here. Which is odd given his behavior. Pete Buttigieg seems to be a more moral person given his life and behavior, but he is homosexual which many on the right tend to disagree with. So given these factors about both Trump and Buttigieg, the nature of this forum, and the fact that both are candidates for President, this seemed the perfect place for such a poll question.

 

[OKTexas]

Who is more religious, Donald Trump or Pete Buttigieg?

I wouldn't hire either to be my pastor. Why is this in politics?

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Because this can be a political issue, especially for conservatives. Because there is a chance that Pete Buttigieg could go up against Donald Trump to become the next President of the United States. There is no better place than here for this to be discussed.

Currently the minor city mayor isn't even a blip on the national radar, and will never likely be. Do you seriously think the early States are going to vote for a socialist flamer.

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[bodecea]

Neither. Trump has no particular interest in religion. Nor has he indicated any opinion on gays.

Buttplug has no religion. He is an abomination to Christianity. His interest in religion is superficial at best.

CRCs and their so-called religion....

 

[U2Edge]

is it important?

It is to me and others who equate religious belief with good moral behavior and integrity. It certainly tends to be important to conservatives and Republicans who on average have deeper faith and are more religious than Democrats.

....I don't believe in god and I have good, moral behavior/etc

Maybe you do, but most Americans would prefer a President that believes in God. Most Americans believe in God and tend to vote for candidates that believe in God. That's why there are no Atheist in the House Of Representatives, Senate or White House. We have IN GOD WE TRUST printed on are money.

There's a difference between/among "believes in God", "is religious", and "good moral behavior", dummy.

And while most Americans would ideally prefer that their President share their beliefs, they get that a President who doesn't necessarily believe as they do but protects their right to do so beats someone who mouths the right words but infringes on their rights.

Sometimes there is, sometimes there is not. As for Trump, many would say he is infringing on their rights. I have not heard Pete Buttigieg say or do anything to infringe anyone's rights.

 

[Cecilie1200]

is it important?

It is to me and others who equate religious belief with good moral behavior and integrity. It certainly tends to be important to conservatives and Republicans who on average have deeper faith and are more religious than Democrats.

....I don't believe in god and I have good, moral behavior/etc

Maybe you do, but most Americans would prefer a President that believes in God. Most Americans believe in God and tend to vote for candidates that believe in God. That's why there are no Atheist in the House Of Representatives, Senate or White House. We have IN GOD WE TRUST printed on are money.

There's a difference between/among "believes in God", "is religious", and "good moral behavior", dummy.

And while most Americans would ideally prefer that their President share their beliefs, they get that a President who doesn't necessarily believe as they do but protects their right to do so beats someone who mouths the right words but infringes on their rights.

Sometimes there is, sometimes there is not. As for Trump, many would say he is infringing on their rights. I have not heard Pete Buttigieg say or do anything to infringe anyone's rights.

Really? Many religious conservatives would say he's infringing on their rights? How interesting.

That doesn't change the fact that every voter makes that determination individually, and not one person I know of values your input on the religiousness of any one, or for that matter believes it's really of any concern to you other than as something to bitch about Trump for.

 

[U2Edge]

Neither. Trump has no particular interest in religion. Nor has he indicated any opinion on gays.

Buttplug has no religion. He is an abomination to Christianity. His interest in religion is superficial at best.

WRONG! Pete Buttigieg is a member of the Episcopalian Church and is a congregant at the Cathedral Of St. James in downtown South Bend Indiana. Pete Buttigieg got married at the Cathedral of St. James last summer. I don't see anything that Buttigieg has done that would make him and abomination to Christianity. He is a veteran of the United States Navy serving 8 years. He served in the war in Afghanistan. He is far ahead of Trump in terms of living a Christian life of service.

You mean aside from engaging in homosexual behavior, which the Bible calls an abomination?

Oh, wait, let me guess. You want to use the Bible to condemn Trump, but then think it's wrong when it's applied to people you like, right?

You know nothing about either of them personally. You also clearly know very little about religious morality, however much you want to pretend you're qualified to address the subject. If you did, you would know that presuming to judge the state of someone else's soul and relationship with God is the sin of hubris.

The Episcopalian Church and other Christian Denominations do not find anything about homosexuality that is incompatible with Christianity. Jesus Christ went against many teachings of the Old Testament.

Americans are called on to make a judgement about the various candidates every time we decide who to vote in as the next President.

 

[U2Edge]

Who is more religious, Donald Trump or Pete Buttigieg?

I wouldn't hire either to be my pastor. Why is this in politics?

.

Because this can be a political issue, especially for conservatives. Because there is a chance that Pete Buttigieg could go up against Donald Trump to become the next President of the United States. There is no better place than here for this to be discussed.

Currently the minor city mayor isn't even a blip on the national radar, and will never likely be. Do you seriously think the early States are going to vote for a socialist flamer.

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He is one of the few veterans running in the race. So in that respect, he stands out big time. He is a smart guy, graduated from Harvard, and is the son of parents who were professors at Notre Dame. He is currently in 7th place among all the candidates and that should get him a seat at the table for the big debates.

 

[U2Edge]

Neither. Trump has no particular interest in religion. Nor has he indicated any opinion on gays.

Buttplug has no religion. He is an abomination to Christianity. His interest in religion is superficial at best.

CRCs and their so-called religion....

CRC?

 

[Mike Dwight]

One wants no sovereignty to Christ from outside our borders, like Space and the Oceans and shit. The Other One wants no sovereignty to Christ from outside our borders, like Space and the Oceans and shit.

 

[daveman]

Who the hell is Buttgag?

You can read all about him right here: Pete Buttigieg - Wikipedia

Pete Buttigieg is currently the Mayor of South Bend IN and is a veteran of the Navy, 8 years service. He is also a veteran of the war in Afghanistan. He is currently a candidate to become the next President of the United States.

He has zero chance of winning.

 

[U2Edge]

It is to me and others who equate religious belief with good moral behavior and integrity. It certainly tends to be important to conservatives and Republicans who on average have deeper faith and are more religious than Democrats.

....I don't believe in god and I have good, moral behavior/etc

Maybe you do, but most Americans would prefer a President that believes in God. Most Americans believe in God and tend to vote for candidates that believe in God. That's why there are no Atheist in the House Of Representatives, Senate or White House. We have IN GOD WE TRUST printed on are money.

There's a difference between/among "believes in God", "is religious", and "good moral behavior", dummy.

And while most Americans would ideally prefer that their President share their beliefs, they get that a President who doesn't necessarily believe as they do but protects their right to do so beats someone who mouths the right words but infringes on their rights.

Sometimes there is, sometimes there is not. As for Trump, many would say he is infringing on their rights. I have not heard Pete Buttigieg say or do anything to infringe anyone's rights.

Really? Many religious conservatives would say he's infringing on their rights? How interesting.

That doesn't change the fact that every voter makes that determination individually, and not one person I know of values your input on the religiousness of any one, or for that matter believes it's really of any concern to you other than as something to bitch about Trump for.

This is a democracy, people express their views openly in this country. We talk about it, and debate about it. Part of why this forum is here.

Also, many religious conservatives are Latin American. In fact, Latin Americans, especially Latin American immigrants tend to be more religious than the average U.S. citizen.

 

[anynameyouwish]

is it important?

It is to me and others who equate religious belief with good moral behavior and integrity. It certainly tends to be important to conservatives and Republicans who on average have deeper faith and are more religious than Democrats.

"It is to me and others who equate religious belief with good moral behavior and integrity."

I would never make that connection.

My moral behavior and integrity is EASILY as good as any religious persons.

And LOTS of religious people still believe "something should be done about IMMORAL homosexuals"....Hating gays because their god tells them to is NOT "good moral behavior"

 

[U2Edge]

Who the hell is Buttgag?

You can read all about him right here: Pete Buttigieg - Wikipedia

Pete Buttigieg is currently the Mayor of South Bend IN and is a veteran of the Navy, 8 years service. He is also a veteran of the war in Afghanistan. He is currently a candidate to become the next President of the United States.

He has zero chance of winning.

His chances are not high, but I'd say he has a better chance than Donald Trump of being in the White House on January 21, 2021.

 

[OKTexas]

Who is more religious, Donald Trump or Pete Buttigieg?

I wouldn't hire either to be my pastor. Why is this in politics?

.

Because this can be a political issue, especially for conservatives. Because there is a chance that Pete Buttigieg could go up against Donald Trump to become the next President of the United States. There is no better place than here for this to be discussed.

Currently the minor city mayor isn't even a blip on the national radar, and will never likely be. Do you seriously think the early States are going to vote for a socialist flamer.

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He is one of the few veterans running in the race. So in that respect, he stands out big time. He is a smart guy, graduated from Harvard, and is the son of parents who were professors at Notre Dame. He is currently in 7th place among all the candidates and that should get him a seat at the table for the big debates.

From what I hear they're using money raised for the first round of debates, how's he doing on that front?

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[Weatherman2020]

Neither. Trump has no particular interest in religion. Nor has he indicated any opinion on gays.

Buttplug has no religion. He is an abomination to Christianity. His interest in religion is superficial at best.

WRONG! Pete Buttigieg is a member of the Episcopalian Church and is a congregant at the Cathedral Of St. James in downtown South Bend Indiana. Pete Buttigieg got married at the Cathedral of St. James last summer. I don't see anything that Buttigieg has done that would make him and abomination to Christianity. He is a veteran of the United States Navy serving 8 years. He served in the war in Afghanistan. He is far ahead of Trump in terms of living a Christian life of service.

Homosexuality is an abomination. Their book says it.

The Bible is a collection or library of nearly a 100 different books. Different views on issues are expressed in those books, plus what is written is open to interpretation and dependent on translations and older meanings and definitions. The Episcopalian Church has found that being a homosexual is not inconsistent with teachings of Jesus Christ, which is why the Episcopalian Church allows gay people to marry in the church.

The Episcopalian Church decided to buckle under to gay demands. There has been no revelation that the Church has suddenly discovered a new interpretation. Not at all. Gays whined and demanded and intimidated. And there are still Episcopalians who won't accept the normalization of perversion. And it is perversion.

I attended an Episcopalian service once. It was the most unChristian event I’ve ever been too. The Pink Floyd concert I went to was more Christian. Just happened some bigwig Cardinal from LA was there visiting that day. Everybody is kissing his ring as they leave the only exit. I’m stuck and not kissing this demons ring. So I grabbed his extended hand it and shook saying isn’t this a glorious day God has made. The look on his face was worth the price of admission.

 

[U2Edge]

is it important?

It is to me and others who equate religious belief with good moral behavior and integrity. It certainly tends to be important to conservatives and Republicans who on average have deeper faith and are more religious than Democrats.

"It is to me and others who equate religious belief with good moral behavior and integrity."

I would never make that connection.

My moral behavior and integrity is EASILY as good as any religious persons.

And LOTS of religious people still believe "something should be done about IMMORAL homosexuals"....Hating gays because their god tells them to is NOT "good moral behavior"

Lots of Christians have no problem with Homosexuality. Look up the Episcopalians.