Who is the least tolerant?

[Clementine]

There are plenty of accusation thrown around at Christians and others. So tired of being called Islamophobic for object to some radical things. Don't like honor killings, beheadings of Christians or seeing gays murdered? You get called Islamophobic. Why? Because if you criticize one Muslim, you criticize them all, apparently. If the left doesn't separate radicals from the average Muslim, why should anyone else?

In a Kansas university, which is predominantly Christian, a small minority of Muslims took issue with the church. So, the college decided that the church should be shared by all. What that meant was that all things Christian were removed from the church, such as the alter, pews and other symbols. And Muslim prayer rugs were put in their place. Now, it looks like a mosque and the Christians don't feel comfortable. I think we all know that the Muslims would have a fit if Christians prayed in their "mosque." No different than Christians being persecuted in virtually every Muslim country. Only choice Christians have is to give in and not complain. This is typical of the so-called compromise we see nowadays. As long as you bend over to the favored groups, everything is great.

It's clear that one place cannot be shared by both religions, so political correctness dictates that the decision will favor Muslims. This is bullshit.

"University officials ordered workers to remove all the pews and the altar inside the Harvey D. Grace Memorial Chapel. Muslim prayer rugs and some portable chairs were then brought inside.

In a statement, WSU President John Bardo said the changes were in compliance with the wishes of the chapel's benefactor, Mrs. Harvey D. Grace, who in her last will wrote that "this chapel will be open to all creeds and to all races of people."

Guided by this, Bardo said they decided to convert the chapel into a facility "welcoming to all religious groups on campus."

But the changes ultimately resulted in a "Christian cleansing," according to Fox News. "Anything remotely related to the décor of a Christian church was given the heave-ho."

But the Muslims now in control of the facility are dismissing the Christian outrage, calling it "Islamophobia," or prejudice against Muslims."

http://www.christiantoday.com/article/minority.muslim.students.take.over.christian.chapel.in.kansas.university/67125.htm

 

[Mac1958]

There are several here who equate the religions in an attempt to spin for the PC-Protected Religion, Islam.

They're both bad. The Crusades. Christians kill people too. On and on.
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[TheOldSchool]

They should have to bring their own rugs. Take them out of there.

Then again, the words "according to Fox News" are in the OP, so who knows what the hell is actually happening here.

 

[Rustic]

There are several here who equate the religions in an attempt to spin for the PC-Protected Religion, Islam.

They're both bad. The Crusades. Christians kill people too. On and on.
.

The crusades were catholic... Night and day.

Hashtag theology

 

[NYcarbineer]

Read a more honest assessment of the event:

Some would prefer that Muslims not use Wichita State chapel

 

[Pogo]

So tired of being called Islamophobic for object to some radical things. Don't like honor killings, beheadings of Christians or seeing gays murdered? You get called Islamophobic. Why? Because if you criticize one Muslim, you criticize them all, apparently. If the left doesn't separate radicals from the average Muslim, why should anyone else?

Since none of those are "Islamic" practices but cultural ones specific to certain areas, that really can't be called "Islamophobia". It's just plain bigot Ignorance.

So your point is well taken -- you shouldn't be called "Islamophobic" for that. You should just be called a dumbass bigot.

Hope this helps. And in future if you get dubbed "Islamophobic" for crap that has nothing to do with Islam, feel free to call on me to straighten them out and get you the adjective you deserve.

 

[Clementine]

So tired of being called Islamophobic for object to some radical things. Don't like honor killings, beheadings of Christians or seeing gays murdered? You get called Islamophobic. Why? Because if you criticize one Muslim, you criticize them all, apparently. If the left doesn't separate radicals from the average Muslim, why should anyone else?

Since none of those are "Islamic" practices but cultural ones specific to certain areas, that really can't be called "Islamophobia". It's just plain bigot Ignorance.

So your point is well taken -- you shouldn't be called "Islamophobic" for that. You should just be called a dumbass bigot.

Hope this helps.

It's the left that has a shit fit when you criticize the culture bullshit of Muslims. It's the left that warns not to insult any Muslims or you will be responsible for their violent reaction.

 

[TheOldSchool]

Read a more honest assessment of the event:

Some would prefer that Muslims not use Wichita State chapel

Ah I should've known

 

[Iron Head]

Being reasonably tolerant does not mean you have to be accepting of intolerant people, like fucking Muslims.

The primary reason that tolerance has been raised to the level of virtue in today's western culture is because it is a tool, or a means, to corrupt and undermine our culture. It is part of the PC cancer that is plaguing us.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

If it's a state run university all chapels, mosques, temples, churches, etc... should be removed from the state grounds and any monies returned to the families to be in keeping with the progressive ideals of separation of church and state.

Problem solved.

I'm surprised the progressives didn't demand this before this issue came up but then they're just a bunch of hypocrites.

*****CHUCKLE*****

 

[Londoner]

The OP is likely very young and/or listens to a lot of talk radio.

My advice.

Stop reducing humans to their religion, and stop being so obedient to a media culture that tells you to reduce people to their religion for the purpose of greasing the wheels of our foreign interventions.

Maybe it would help for you to play "devil's advocate" against your trusted news sources (just so you can consider potential limitations of the opinions you''ve adopted). Try this idea. Every time a Christian kills or tortures someone, we don't blame Christianity, we blame the fucking person. We punish the person as we should. Same with Muslims. We should punish the fucking person or persons who committed the crime.

Individuals should be held accountable for their acts. By expanding the blame to religions, you're letting the actual person who committed the heinous crime off the hook. By turning every individual act or rogue terrorist group into a cosmic war for civilization, you're making it easier for Washington to get involved, so they can spend our money getting in ill-conceived wars and occupying whole other continents. (Why do Republicans always trust Big Government's framing of national security issues?)

Big Government has a very real interest in controlling the energy resources of the Persian Gulf (which resources play a massive role in the health of the U.S. and global economies). This means Big Government needs to intervene in the Gulf Region to protect our interests. During the Cold War, we used the Soviet Threat as a justification to intervene in key regions (regions where we wanted to defend/open global markets). Today, having won the Cold War, we use the Terrorist Threat as context for intervention in key regions. The backlash of our intervention comes from radical Islam, which is very easy to characterize as barbaric (which characterization is used as a justification for increased intervention).

Reagan partnered with radical Islam in the 80s because he needed powerful regional allies against the Soviets. Use your google bro. Reagan called the Mujahideen (early Al Qaeda) freedom fighters. He made them stronger. He funded them to the hilt because they were key to trapping the Soviets in Afghan quicksand. Reagan also funded and supplied weapons to Iran, then Hussein. These monsters were just as barbaric then as they are now, but nobody said anything in the 80s because your news sources did what they are doing now: spinning the issue to the benefit of those in power.

Turn off talk radio and Fox News. Take your fucking brain back. Why not start blaming/punishing individuals for their crimes. When you take the bait and turn it into a global, national religious war for civilization, you are making it a Big Government issue - and Big Government always wastes our money and makes things worse.

 

[amrchaos]

Stripping a church just to accommodate another group is extreme.

the best short term solution is to find a building that can double as a community center. Most Universities have a student center that could fit the bill.

The long term solution is the construction of a mosque on campus.

 

[Damaged Eagle]

Then all religions should be accommodated and the university should build a chapel, church, temple, mosque, synagogue, pagoda, shrine, etc... for each... Matching costs for all.

I want a huge grove of trees with a sacrificial shrine at the center.

*****SMILE*****

 

[easyt65]

ISIS edges out Liberals only because ISIS beheads anyone who doesn't agree with them...

Atheists come in 3rd because they go absolutely ape shi'te because people believe in something they don't think exists

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Who is the least tolerant? Look up the definition of "conservative" and get back to us.

 

[easyt65]

Conservative: "A person who respects the Constitution, Rule Of Law, and Life, does not aid terrorists and knows the difference between a Terrorist Attack and cases of Workplace Violence."

 

[my2¢]

From my reading of the story it seems to me that if Christians are intimidated, it's only because there aren't enough that really care.

 

[Eaglewings]

So tired of being called Islamophobic for object to some radical things. Don't like honor killings, beheadings of Christians or seeing gays murdered? You get called Islamophobic. Why? Because if you criticize one Muslim, you criticize them all, apparently. If the left doesn't separate radicals from the average Muslim, why should anyone else?

Since none of those are "Islamic" practices but cultural ones specific to certain areas, that really can't be called "Islamophobia". It's just plain bigot Ignorance.

So your point is well taken -- you shouldn't be called "Islamophobic" for that. You should just be called a dumbass bigot.

Hope this helps.

It's the left that has a shit fit when you criticize the culture bullshit of Muslims. It's the left that warns not to insult any Muslims or you will be responsible for their violent reaction.

It was the students voice that wanted the pews out for more room with bible studies.
But personally for me if a church is christian non denomination , lutheran, or any religion it should not have to change to accommodate everyone. I don't see any Jewish items.

If anyone has a problem with it, don't go to school there.



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[Clementine]

The OP is likely very young and/or listens to a lot of talk radio.

My advice.

Stop reducing humans to their religion, and stop being so obedient to a media culture that tells you to reduce people to their religion for the purpose of greasing the wheels of our foreign interventions.

Maybe it would help for you to play "devil's advocate" against your trusted news sources (just so you can consider potential limitations of the opinions you''ve adopted). Try this idea. Every time a Christian kills or tortures someone, we don't blame Christianity, we blame the fucking person. We punish the person as we should. Same with Muslims. We should punish the fucking person or persons who committed the crime.

Individuals should be held accountable for their acts. By expanding the blame to religions, you're letting the actual person who committed the heinous crime off the hook. By turning every individual act or rogue terrorist group into a cosmic war for civilization, you're making it easier for Washington to get involved, so they can spend our money getting in ill-conceived wars and occupying whole other continents. (Why do Republicans always trust Big Government's framing of national security issues?)

Big Government has a very real interest in controlling the energy resources of the Persian Gulf (which resources play a massive role in the health of the U.S. and global economies). This means Big Government needs to intervene in the Gulf Region to protect our interests. During the Cold War, we used the Soviet Threat as a justification to intervene in key regions (regions where we wanted to defend/open global markets). Today, having won the Cold War, we use the Terrorist Threat as context for intervention in key regions. The backlash of our intervention comes from radical Islam, which is very easy to characterize as barbaric (which characterization is used as a justification for increased intervention).

Reagan partnered with radical Islam in the 80s because he needed powerful regional allies against the Soviets. Use your google bro. Reagan called the Mujahideen (early Al Qaeda) freedom fighters. He made them stronger. He funded them to the hilt because they were key to trapping the Soviets in Afghan quicksand. Reagan also funded and supplied weapons to Iran, then Hussein. These monsters were just as barbaric then as they are now, but nobody said anything in the 80s because your news sources did what they are doing now: spinning the issue to the benefit of those in power.

Turn off talk radio and Fox News. Take your fucking brain back. Why not start blaming/punishing individuals for their crimes. When you take the bait and turn it into a global, national religious war for civilization, you are making it a Big Government issue - and Big Government always wastes our money and makes things worse.

You assume too many things and got it wrong, so hard to take you seriously.

 

[Pogo]

The OP is likely very young and/or listens to a lot of talk radio.

My advice.

Stop reducing humans to their religion, and stop being so obedient to a media culture that tells you to reduce people to their religion for the purpose of greasing the wheels of our foreign interventions.

Maybe it would help for you to play "devil's advocate" against your trusted news sources (just so you can consider potential limitations of the opinions you''ve adopted). Try this idea. Every time a Christian kills or tortures someone, we don't blame Christianity, we blame the fucking person. We punish the person as we should. Same with Muslims. We should punish the fucking person or persons who committed the crime.

Individuals should be held accountable for their acts. By expanding the blame to religions, you're letting the actual person who committed the heinous crime off the hook. By turning every individual act or rogue terrorist group into a cosmic war for civilization, you're making it easier for Washington to get involved, so they can spend our money getting in ill-conceived wars and occupying whole other continents. (Why do Republicans always trust Big Government's framing of national security issues?)

Big Government has a very real interest in controlling the energy resources of the Persian Gulf (which resources play a massive role in the health of the U.S. and global economies). This means Big Government needs to intervene in the Gulf Region to protect our interests. During the Cold War, we used the Soviet Threat as a justification to intervene in key regions (regions where we wanted to defend/open global markets). Today, having won the Cold War, we use the Terrorist Threat as context for intervention in key regions. The backlash of our intervention comes from radical Islam, which is very easy to characterize as barbaric (which characterization is used as a justification for increased intervention).

Reagan partnered with radical Islam in the 80s because he needed powerful regional allies against the Soviets. Use your google bro. Reagan called the Mujahideen (early Al Qaeda) freedom fighters. He made them stronger. He funded them to the hilt because they were key to trapping the Soviets in Afghan quicksand. Reagan also funded and supplied weapons to Iran, then Hussein. These monsters were just as barbaric then as they are now, but nobody said anything in the 80s because your news sources did what they are doing now: spinning the issue to the benefit of those in power.

Turn off talk radio and Fox News. Take your fucking brain back. Why not start blaming/punishing individuals for their crimes. When you take the bait and turn it into a global, national religious war for civilization, you are making it a Big Government issue - and Big Government always wastes our money and makes things worse.

You assume too many things and got it wrong, so hard to take you seriously.

Welllll... no. He called you out for blanket generalization/cum hoc fallacies, and you just don't want to break a brain sweat making a point without them.