Who Needs Planned Parenthood??

[PoliticalChic]

What does the law say on funding abortions?

Title X does not allow federal funds to be used for abortions. Medicaid, however, does allow government money to be spent on them — in very restricted cases.

The 1977 Hyde Amendment dictated that federal Medicaid funds could only be used to fund abortions in cases of rape, incest or to protect the life of the mother. However, some states have expanded cases in which they will provide funds. Currently, 17 states allow funds to be used for "medically necessary" abortions. In those cases that these states count as medically necessary but that are not permitted by the federal guidelines, states cover the cost alone.

Fact Check: How Does Planned Parenthood Spend That Government Money?

7. Now.....let me support that statement that nobody needs government supported Planned Parenthood.




"Miss Tennessee, 21-year-old Hannah Robison, helped perpetuate the myth that ending federal funding for Planned Parenthood could hurt women’s access to health care.

[She said:]
I don’t think Planned Parenthood funding should be cut off. The $500 million that gets given to Planned Parenthood every single year goes to female care. It goes for scanning for cancer, it goes for mammograms.

And if we don’t give that funding to Planned Parenthood, those women will be out of health care for reproductive causes.


a. First, as the Media Research Center’s NewsBusters noted, Planned Parenthood doesn’t offer mammograms. “Planned Parenthood spokeswoman Liz Clark confirmed … [that] the organization does not provide mammograms at any of its health centers,”reported PolitiFact Georgia in August.


b. Nor is this a recent development. It’s not just beauty pageant contestants who are confused ...: President Barack Obama said in one of the 2012 presidential debates that “millions of women all across the country … rely on Planned Parenthood … for mammograms.”
[Hard to tell when Obama is lying, or simply wrong.]

When FactCheck.org looked into Obama’s claim, it reported that “Planned Parenthood health centers do not offer mammography.”




8. Robison’s claim that “women will be out of health care for reproductive causes” if Planned Parenthood no longer receives taxpayer dollars is also untrue. In fact, as Alliance Defending Freedom has documented, there are 13,540 health care clinics that could help women. (In contrast, Planned Parenthood has 665 clinics.)

If Planned Parenthood’s taxpayer funding is ended, that money will be redirected to health care clinics that serve women.


Furthermore, 72 percent of voters agree that “taxpayer dollars would be better spent directed to the more than 13,000 health centers and hospitals providing comprehensive women’s health care.”


We can make sure women have access to health care without using taxpayer dollars to fund an organization responsible for around one out of every three abortions in the United States. "
What Miss Tenn. Got Wrong About Planned Parenthood, Women’s Health

There is no good reason to make PP ineligible for government funded women's health services.

Your problem with abortion is your problem, not ours.

Actually, I gave a number of good reasons.

1. Here's another one: Planned Parenthood is no more than a kick-back scheme operated by Democrats

Independent Expenditures: $6,058,338
For Democrats: $1,854,476
Against Democrats: $0
For Republicans: $13,390
Against Republicans: $2,873,201
Planned Parenthood: Summary | OpenSecrets


2. "With all of that money flowing in, it is not surprising that Planned Parenthood spreads a considerable amount of that money to sympathetic politicians. They pay to elect pro-abort candidates to make sure there are as few restrictions on abortion in America as possible.

But now, it has been revealed who one of the main recipients of Planned Parenthood’s “blood money” is. The Washington Free Beacon reports:

Hillary Clinton is the presidential candidate of choice for Planned Parenthood employees, according to campaign financial records released Wednesday.

Planned Parenthood has supported the Democratic party in the past. It poured $18 million into outside spending groups in 2014 and 2012, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. Most of its nearly $6 million in direct contributions since 1990 have gone to Democrats. Every Democratic candidate except for Webb has benefitted from this cash influx at the federal level. Sanders and Chafee have received nearly $25,000 combined over the course of their careers."
Guess Who’s Getting Big Bucks from Planned Parenthood?


3. "In the past fifteen years, Planned Parenthood has donated at least $25 million to Democratic lawmakers."
Planned Parenthood and Its Employees Have Donated $25 Million to Democrats Since 2000

Don't antiabortionists donate money to politicians who are anti-abortion?

It's money laundering.....take $528 from the public fisc, and kick back 10% to Democrats who agree with Leon Trotsky.
"We must rid ourselves once and for all of the Quaker-Papist babble about the sanctity of human life."

 

[PoliticalChic]

10. OK....one more absurd argument from those who live by 'if it feels good, do it.'

Their expectation is the corollary 'if pregnancy follows, government will do away with the consequences.'


The pro-abortion crowd claims that prospective mother has every right to do away with the child since it is part of her body.

Except that it isn't part of her body any more than a child is if she is breastfeeding.



There are a number of clear biological facts, and all sorts of legal precedents, that easily refute the claim that the new human being is simply part of the mother's body.

1. Start with DNA: An individual's body parts all share the same genetic code. If the unborn child were actually a part of the mother's body, the unborn's cells would have the same genetic code as the cells of the mother. This is not the case. Every cell of the unborn's body is genetically distinct from every cell in the mother's body.

1. In many cases, the blood type of the unborn child is different than the blood type of the mother. Since one body cannot function with two different blood types, this is clearly not the mother's blood.

1. In half of all pregnancies, the unborn child is a male, meaning that even the sex of the child is different from the mother.

1. As Randy Alcorn states in his book Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Arguments, "A Chinese zygote implanted in a Swedish woman will always be Chinese, not Swedish, because his identity is based on his genetic code, not on that of the body in which he resides."
2. It is possible for a fetus to die while the mother lives, and it is possible for the mother to die while the fetus lives. This could not be true if the mother and child were simply one person.

Enough to eviscerate the Leftist baby-killers?

I'd be happy to provide even more evidence that the unborn baby is not part of her body.....and, therefore, she has no right to end its life.

Then tell us why you won't support sending those women to prison for life.

Us?

Don't be afraid to speak for yourself.


Dare to be a Daniel, Dare to stand alone
Dare to have a purpose firm, Dare to make it known!

From From the hymn “Hold the Fort!” First Congregational Church of Chicago, Illinois.

 

[Delta4Embassy]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

Government funded slaughter of the born though, oh that's cool.

 

[PaintMyHouse]

That's all??????

'Potential' means 'could be.'

So....tell me, what are the other possible outcomes for the unborn?

What happens to most, they never survived the process...

 

[Lakhota]

"Who needs Planned Parenthood?"

People like these: Planned Parenthood supporters threw condoms at Carly Fiorina in Iowa

 

[PoliticalChic]

That's all??????

'Potential' means 'could be.'

So....tell me, what are the other possible outcomes for the unborn?

What happens to most, they never survived the process...

Any significant difference between that to which you acquiesce, and this:

"NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — A baby was found dead outside a building in the Bronx Monday afternoon, apparently after being dropped out of a window.

As CBS2’s Valerie Castro reported, it was a heartbreaking scene as the newborn infant was brought out of the building and placed into a New York City Medical Examiner’s office van.

Around 2:20 p.m., the newborn baby girl was found by the superintendent’s wife in the rear of the building at 130 W. 183rd St., in the University Heights section of the Bronx, police sources told CBS2.

Sources said the umbilical cord was still attached. The girl was born inside the apartment, sources said."
Police: Baby Found Dead After Being Thrown From Window In The Bronx

 

[Redfish]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

 

[Redfish]

"Who needs Planned Parenthood?"

People like these: Planned Parenthood supporters threw condoms at Carly Fiorina in Iowa

If those idiots were smart enough to know how to put on a condom there would be no need for PP.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

3% of their 'activity' is abortions.

 

[NYcarbineer]

10. OK....one more absurd argument from those who live by 'if it feels good, do it.'

Their expectation is the corollary 'if pregnancy follows, government will do away with the consequences.'


The pro-abortion crowd claims that prospective mother has every right to do away with the child since it is part of her body.

Except that it isn't part of her body any more than a child is if she is breastfeeding.



There are a number of clear biological facts, and all sorts of legal precedents, that easily refute the claim that the new human being is simply part of the mother's body.

1. Start with DNA: An individual's body parts all share the same genetic code. If the unborn child were actually a part of the mother's body, the unborn's cells would have the same genetic code as the cells of the mother. This is not the case. Every cell of the unborn's body is genetically distinct from every cell in the mother's body.

1. In many cases, the blood type of the unborn child is different than the blood type of the mother. Since one body cannot function with two different blood types, this is clearly not the mother's blood.

1. In half of all pregnancies, the unborn child is a male, meaning that even the sex of the child is different from the mother.

1. As Randy Alcorn states in his book Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Arguments, "A Chinese zygote implanted in a Swedish woman will always be Chinese, not Swedish, because his identity is based on his genetic code, not on that of the body in which he resides."
2. It is possible for a fetus to die while the mother lives, and it is possible for the mother to die while the fetus lives. This could not be true if the mother and child were simply one person.

Enough to eviscerate the Leftist baby-killers?

I'd be happy to provide even more evidence that the unborn baby is not part of her body.....and, therefore, she has no right to end its life.

Then tell us why you won't support sending those women to prison for life.

Us?

Don't be afraid to speak for yourself.


Dare to be a Daniel, Dare to stand alone
Dare to have a purpose firm, Dare to make it known!

From From the hymn “Hold the Fort!” First Congregational Church of Chicago, Illinois.

Why don't you tell us, the people participating in this thread, why you won't support sending those women to prison for life.

You think abortion is murder, but you don't want to send women to prison for those murders. In reality, based on your views in sum total,

you actually want women to get away with murder.

That's demented.

 

[PoliticalChic]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

3% of their 'activity' is abortions.

"PLANNED PARENTHOOD: OVER 333,000 BABIES ABORTED IN 2011"
Planned Parenthood: Over 333,000 Babies Aborted in 2011 - Breitbart


Please respond as you did yesterday....with "so what?"




And, for clarity, would that be the same response for this:

"NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — A baby was found dead outside a building in the Bronx Monday afternoon, apparently after being dropped out of a window.

As CBS2’s Valerie Castro reported, it was a heartbreaking scene as the newborn infant was brought out of the building and placed into a New York City Medical Examiner’s office van.

Around 2:20 p.m., the newborn baby girl was found by the superintendent’s wife in the rear of the building at 130 W. 183rd St., in the University Heights section of the Bronx, police sources told CBS2.

Sources said the umbilical cord was still attached. The girl was born inside the apartment, sources said."
Police: Baby Found Dead After Being Thrown From Window In The Bronx

 

[PoliticalChic]

10. OK....one more absurd argument from those who live by 'if it feels good, do it.'

Their expectation is the corollary 'if pregnancy follows, government will do away with the consequences.'


The pro-abortion crowd claims that prospective mother has every right to do away with the child since it is part of her body.

Except that it isn't part of her body any more than a child is if she is breastfeeding.



There are a number of clear biological facts, and all sorts of legal precedents, that easily refute the claim that the new human being is simply part of the mother's body.

1. Start with DNA: An individual's body parts all share the same genetic code. If the unborn child were actually a part of the mother's body, the unborn's cells would have the same genetic code as the cells of the mother. This is not the case. Every cell of the unborn's body is genetically distinct from every cell in the mother's body.

1. In many cases, the blood type of the unborn child is different than the blood type of the mother. Since one body cannot function with two different blood types, this is clearly not the mother's blood.

1. In half of all pregnancies, the unborn child is a male, meaning that even the sex of the child is different from the mother.

1. As Randy Alcorn states in his book Pro-Life Answers to Pro-Choice Arguments, "A Chinese zygote implanted in a Swedish woman will always be Chinese, not Swedish, because his identity is based on his genetic code, not on that of the body in which he resides."
2. It is possible for a fetus to die while the mother lives, and it is possible for the mother to die while the fetus lives. This could not be true if the mother and child were simply one person.

Enough to eviscerate the Leftist baby-killers?

I'd be happy to provide even more evidence that the unborn baby is not part of her body.....and, therefore, she has no right to end its life.

Then tell us why you won't support sending those women to prison for life.

Us?

Don't be afraid to speak for yourself.


Dare to be a Daniel, Dare to stand alone
Dare to have a purpose firm, Dare to make it known!

From From the hymn “Hold the Fort!” First Congregational Church of Chicago, Illinois.

Why don't you tell us, the people participating in this thread, why you won't support sending those women to prison for life.

You think abortion is murder, but you don't want to send women to prison for those murders. In reality, based on your views in sum total,

you actually want women to get away with murder.

That's demented.

Is infanticide, the violation with which Barack Hussein Obama concedes, worthy of a prison sentence?


"Why don't you tell us, the people participating in this thread,..."
Would you provide the names of those who have asked you to advance that query?

 

[Redfish]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

3% of their 'activity' is abortions.

bullshit. its more like 97%. they don't do mammograms, they don't do pap smears. the pass out condoms and BC pills, BFD. The primary activity of PP is abortions. The founder of PP started the organization to lower the black birth rate because she believed that blacks were inferior and should be prevented from reproducing.

It amazes me that you libs support a group that has killed millions of minority children.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Hillary: Republicans don’t just oppose abortion. They oppose family planning and contraception.

They oppose abortion and every thing else that could actually reduce abortions.........

 

[NYcarbineer]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

3% of their 'activity' is abortions.

"PLANNED PARENTHOOD: OVER 333,000 BABIES ABORTED IN 2011"
Planned Parenthood: Over 333,000 Babies Aborted in 2011 - Breitbart


Please respond as you did yesterday....with "so what?"




And, for clarity, would that be the same response for this:

"NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — A baby was found dead outside a building in the Bronx Monday afternoon, apparently after being dropped out of a window.

As CBS2’s Valerie Castro reported, it was a heartbreaking scene as the newborn infant was brought out of the building and placed into a New York City Medical Examiner’s office van.

Around 2:20 p.m., the newborn baby girl was found by the superintendent’s wife in the rear of the building at 130 W. 183rd St., in the University Heights section of the Bronx, police sources told CBS2.

Sources said the umbilical cord was still attached. The girl was born inside the apartment, sources said."
Police: Baby Found Dead After Being Thrown From Window In The Bronx

Your attempts at baiting are childish. Grow up.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Hillary: Republicans don’t just oppose abortion. They oppose family planning and contraception.

They oppose abortion and every thing else that could actually reduce abortions.........

The GOP has no interest in banning abortion. They know it's not going to happen, for starters.

The GOP is desperately clinging onto what few special interest groups are stupid enough to support them, and pandering to the anti-choice extremists is just one part of that strategy.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

3% of their 'activity' is abortions.

bullshit. its more like 97%. they don't do mammograms, they don't do pap smears. the pass out condoms and BC pills, BFD. The primary activity of PP is abortions. The founder of PP started the organization to lower the black birth rate because she believed that blacks were inferior and should be prevented from reproducing.

It amazes me that you libs support a group that has killed millions of minority children.

Link please.

 

[Redfish]

No one does.
Well....no one needs government funded slaughter of the unborn.



1. ...it may provide a level of comfort so very important to those without morality, principles, or the proper upbringing....
....what is the element that it provides?
Convenience....
.....The ability to carry on an 'if it feels good, do it' life style with no thought to who is hurt.



2. So...what the motivation for denying it government funding?
The law.

a. "Passed by Congress in 1976, the Hyde Amendment excludes abortion from the comprehensive health care services provided to low-income people by the federal government through Medicaid. "
Public Funding for Abortion


b. "Congress has made some exceptions to the funding ban, which have varied over the years. At present, the federal Medicaid program mandates abortion funding in cases of rape or incest, as well as when a pregnant woman's life is endangered..."
Ibid.





3. Let's deal with the so very overused idea of "cases of rape or incest."
The concept that there are "cases of rape or incest" is a chimera.
They really don't exist.....well, the fact is that 98.5% of abortion don't involve either abhorrent event.
The cases in which abortion is for rape, 1%; and .5% incest. http://www.guttmacher.org/pubs/psrh/full/3711005.pdf



4. Well....how about when a pregnant woman's life is endangered? In just 12% of the cases were there 'concerns' for the mother’s health, according to reports. (Ibid.)

The problem here is that there is no objective criterion for "the mother's health." Anyone who can prevail on her doctor to write a note including the word "health" can get in under that clause.
I'm bettin' that the 12% figure is rally more like that of rape or incest.



5. So......what is the reason for extinguishing the life of the incipient human baby in the vast.....vast.....majority of cases?

It is the very element that forms the pillar of Planned Parenthood's raison d'être...convenience.

Liberal governance is all about making it easy to do what one "feels like"....even to the extent of killing an about-to-be human baby.





We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.
The Declaration of Independence


Based on the above, from America's founding document, every patriotic American, every conservative, is pro-life.

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

3% of their 'activity' is abortions.

bullshit. its more like 97%. they don't do mammograms, they don't do pap smears. the pass out condoms and BC pills, BFD. The primary activity of PP is abortions. The founder of PP started the organization to lower the black birth rate because she believed that blacks were inferior and should be prevented from reproducing.

It amazes me that you libs support a group that has killed millions of minority children.

Link please.

when you provide a link for your 3% claim I wll provide one for mine.

 

[Redfish]

Hillary: Republicans don’t just oppose abortion. They oppose family planning and contraception.

They oppose abortion and every thing else that could actually reduce abortions.........

The GOP has no interest in banning abortion. They know it's not going to happen, for starters.

The GOP is desperately clinging onto what few special interest groups are stupid enough to support them, and pandering to the anti-choice extremists is just one part of that strategy.

nice recitation of a dem talking point. its totally wrong, but you did accurately repeat it like a good little mindless parrot.

 

[NYcarbineer]

PP doesn't get federal funds for performing abortions.

PP gets federal funding, there is no way to tell how they use that money. Since their major activity is performing abortions, it is very likely that federal funding has and is paying for abortions. At a minimum there should be an audit and if federal money has been used for abortions, PP should be prosecuted and totally defunded.

3% of their 'activity' is abortions.

bullshit. its more like 97%. they don't do mammograms, they don't do pap smears. the pass out condoms and BC pills, BFD. The primary activity of PP is abortions. The founder of PP started the organization to lower the black birth rate because she believed that blacks were inferior and should be prevented from reproducing.

It amazes me that you libs support a group that has killed millions of minority children.

Link please.

when you provide a link for your 3% claim I wll provide one for mine.

I have credibility, you don't.