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Christian School Teacher Fired After Deciding to Live 2014 as an Atheist | KTLA 5
christian tolerance at it finest
christian tolerance at it finest
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Bell, a graduate of Fuller, had taught in the school’s doctorate development program for the past year. But Fredrickson told his friend that his sabbatical from faith meant a sabbatical from the seminary as well.
“From an academic standpoint, and even as a personal journey, I’m really excited about what Ryan is doing,” Fredrickson said.
“There is no honest person of faith who doesn’t have doubts, and Ryan is being courageous enough to take a step back and assess his life. This is bold stuff.”
But Bell’s job at Fuller was to help students through their doctoral dissertations, a particularly stressful time, Fredrickson said, when seminarians need to lean on a person with strong faith
wow you are denseWhen your job is religious education and you are required to sign a profession of faith to have the job, it hardly seems an issue of intolerance when you can't preform your job as required and as you agreed to do it.
Did you even read the article?
Bell, a graduate of Fuller, had taught in the school’s doctorate development program for the past year. But Fredrickson told his friend that his sabbatical from faith meant a sabbatical from the seminary as well.
“From an academic standpoint, and even as a personal journey, I’m really excited about what Ryan is doing,” Fredrickson said.
“There is no honest person of faith who doesn’t have doubts, and Ryan is being courageous enough to take a step back and assess his life. This is bold stuff.”
But Bell’s job at Fuller was to help students through their doctoral dissertations, a particularly stressful time, Fredrickson said, when seminarians need to lean on a person with strong faith
Does that sound like someone who is intolerant?
If you can't do the job, you can't do the job. Nothing about intolerance there.
I wish him good luck in his experiment. I hope he learns alot and comes back to the Lord.
I also highly recommend others do the experiment the opposite way. Spend a year living as a disciple of Christ.
When your job is religious education and you are required to sign a profession of faith to have the job, it hardly seems an issue of intolerance when you can't preform your job as required and as you agreed to do it.
Did you even read the article?
Bell, a graduate of Fuller, had taught in the schools doctorate development program for the past year. But Fredrickson told his friend that his sabbatical from faith meant a sabbatical from the seminary as well.
From an academic standpoint, and even as a personal journey, Im really excited about what Ryan is doing, Fredrickson said.
There is no honest person of faith who doesnt have doubts, and Ryan is being courageous enough to take a step back and assess his life. This is bold stuff.
But Bells job at Fuller was to help students through their doctoral dissertations, a particularly stressful time, Fredrickson said, when seminarians need to lean on a person with strong faith
Does that sound like someone who is intolerant?
If you can't do the job, you can't do the job. Nothing about intolerance there.
I wish him good luck in his experiment. I hope he learns alot and comes back to the Lord.
I also highly recommend others do the experiment the opposite way. Spend a year living as a disciple of Christ.
When your job is religious education and you are required to sign a profession of faith to have the job, it hardly seems an issue of intolerance when you can't preform your job as required and as you agreed to do it.
Did you even read the article?
Bell, a graduate of Fuller, had taught in the school’s doctorate development program for the past year. But Fredrickson told his friend that his sabbatical from faith meant a sabbatical from the seminary as well.
“From an academic standpoint, and even as a personal journey, I’m really excited about what Ryan is doing,” Fredrickson said.
“There is no honest person of faith who doesn’t have doubts, and Ryan is being courageous enough to take a step back and assess his life. This is bold stuff.”
But Bell’s job at Fuller was to help students through their doctoral dissertations, a particularly stressful time, Fredrickson said, when seminarians need to lean on a person with strong faith
Does that sound like someone who is intolerant?
If you can't do the job, you can't do the job. Nothing about intolerance there.
I wish him good luck in his experiment. I hope he learns alot and comes back to the Lord.
I also highly recommend others do the experiment the opposite way. Spend a year living as a disciple of Christ.
When your job is religious education and you are required to sign a profession of faith to have the job, it hardly seems an issue of intolerance when you can't preform your job as required and as you agreed to do it
I also highly recommend others do the experiment the opposite way. Spend a year living as a disciple of Christ.
For the next 12 months, Bell says he will live as if there is no God.
He will not pray, go to church, read the Bible for inspiration, trust in divine providence or hope in things unseen. He’s taking the opposite of a leap of faith: a free fall into the depths of religious doubt.
Bell’s “intellectual experiment,” which began January 1, has already borne dramatic consequences.
Read more: http://ktla.com/2014/01/08/christia...ing-to-live-2014-as-an-atheist/#ixzz2q5gj1Gny
When your job is religious education and you are required to sign a profession of faith to have the job, it hardly seems an issue of intolerance when you can't preform your job as required and as you agreed to do it
As an agnostic, I agree. If I had a school that promoted agnosticism, and a teacher started teaching Christianity or Satanism etc. He'd be toast. This is not to say that education in the particulars of other religions or philosophies should be banned. The problem with all revealed religions is their dogmatic blind acceptance of their beliefs, which makes it harder and harder as time goes on for all but their most blind followers to believe.
BTW, the guy's a jerk. He isn't experimenting with atheism, rather, it's agnosticism. If a teacher of religion doesn't know the difference, that would be reason enough for dismissal in my book. I'm worn out with people pointing out the fallacies of religion, and then saying the only possible alternative is the non-existence of God.
I also highly recommend others do the experiment the opposite way. Spend a year living as a disciple of Christ.
How does one experiment with believing that God condones the existence of Hell, and if you don't believe, that's where you're going; or that someone else can die and thereby take on responsibility for your soul?
off topic!When your job is religious education and you are required to sign a profession of faith to have the job, it hardly seems an issue of intolerance when you can't preform your job as required and as you agreed to do it.
Did you even read the article?
Bell, a graduate of Fuller, had taught in the schools doctorate development program for the past year. But Fredrickson told his friend that his sabbatical from faith meant a sabbatical from the seminary as well.
From an academic standpoint, and even as a personal journey, Im really excited about what Ryan is doing, Fredrickson said.
There is no honest person of faith who doesnt have doubts, and Ryan is being courageous enough to take a step back and assess his life. This is bold stuff.
But Bells job at Fuller was to help students through their doctoral dissertations, a particularly stressful time, Fredrickson said, when seminarians need to lean on a person with strong faith
Does that sound like someone who is intolerant?
If you can't do the job, you can't do the job. Nothing about intolerance there.
I wish him good luck in his experiment. I hope he learns alot and comes back to the Lord.
I also highly recommend others do the experiment the opposite way. Spend a year living as a disciple of Christ.
Disobedient Christians believe all they have to do is decide to follow words written in a Bible and pretend to be following Christ when they have no idea what Christ means. It's impossible to follow something that's invisible and only the saints of God possess within their mind, which is actually the mind of our Creator where ALL God's creation exists within His thoughts. We saints know we're nothing but a dream but Christians believe we're in a real world and believe in deities such as a man called Jesus as a god.
are false comparisons your specialty?So would a Fire station be intolerant if they let go of a firefighter who said he would no longer fight fires?
Think about it daws.
When your job is religious education and you are required to sign a profession of faith to have the job, it hardly seems an issue of intolerance when you can't preform your job as required and as you agreed to do it
As an agnostic, I agree. If I had a school that promoted agnosticism, and a teacher started teaching Christianity or Satanism etc. He'd be toast. This is not to say that education in the particulars of other religions or philosophies should be banned. The problem with all revealed religions is their dogmatic blind acceptance of their beliefs, which makes it harder and harder as time goes on for all but their most blind followers to believe.
BTW, the guy's a jerk. He isn't experimenting with atheism, rather, it's agnosticism. If a teacher of religion doesn't know the difference, that would be reason enough for dismissal in my book. I'm worn out with people pointing out the fallacies of religion, and then saying the only possible alternative is the non-existence of God.
I also highly recommend others do the experiment the opposite way. Spend a year living as a disciple of Christ.
How does one experiment with believing that God condones the existence of Hell, and if you don't believe, that's where you're going; or that someone else can die and thereby take on responsibility for your soul?
You experiment on the Word by doing what it the Lord teaches. You pray. You ask forgiveness. You study your scriptures. You do what you can to keep the commandments. You make a choice to act in faith even though you don't necesarily see everything from the beginning.
word either stay on topic or stfu...As an agnostic, I agree. If I had a school that promoted agnosticism, and a teacher started teaching Christianity or Satanism etc. He'd be toast. This is not to say that education in the particulars of other religions or philosophies should be banned. The problem with all revealed religions is their dogmatic blind acceptance of their beliefs, which makes it harder and harder as time goes on for all but their most blind followers to believe.
BTW, the guy's a jerk. He isn't experimenting with atheism, rather, it's agnosticism. If a teacher of religion doesn't know the difference, that would be reason enough for dismissal in my book. I'm worn out with people pointing out the fallacies of religion, and then saying the only possible alternative is the non-existence of God.
How does one experiment with believing that God condones the existence of Hell, and if you don't believe, that's where you're going; or that someone else can die and thereby take on responsibility for your soul?
You experiment on the Word by doing what it the Lord teaches. You pray. You ask forgiveness. You study your scriptures. You do what you can to keep the commandments. You make a choice to act in faith even though you don't necesarily see everything from the beginning.
Whoever obeys words written in a book is a fool who doesn't know who our Creator is or how He used His saints and prophets to write down the words He puts in our minds that Christians call scriptures.
true, but this is not one of those times....it highlights the bigotry that Christians say they don't have...Actions have consequences...some people have to learn things the hard way.
then maybe the parents ought take the opportunity for their kids to learn from other than Christian role models...true, but this is not one of those times....it highlights the bigotry that Christians say they don't have...Actions have consequences...some people have to learn things the hard way.
I can't imagine very many Christian parents who would be comfortable with such an experiment at the cost of leading their children by example...it goes against the whole purpose of choosing to place them in such a school where they expect Christian role models.
true, but this is not one of those times....it highlights the bigotry that Christians say they don't have...Actions have consequences...some people have to learn things the hard way.
I can't imagine very many Christian parents who would be comfortable with such an experiment at the cost of leading their children by example...it goes against the whole purpose of choosing to place them in such a school where they expect Christian role models.
Christian School Teacher Fired After Deciding to Live 2014 as an Atheist | KTLA 5
christian tolerance at it finest