Why a war with N. Korea may be imminent....

[Doc1]

If it happens (and I think it will) it will because the Banksters WANT it to happen.

 

[my2¢]

But anyone with intelligence pays NO ATTENTION to POLLS, really.

Remember, you said it - not I.

 

[Staidhup]

There will be no war with NK. China will not stand by and watch their boarder be compromised by the presence of western forces. NK would simply be annihilated in a blink of the eye, which China is well aware of, she will step in and bitch slap the punk before it reaches a boiling point.

 

[percysunshine]

When in 2002-2003 GWB's poll numbers were down and his economic policies (mostly tax breaks for the rich) were met with serious opposition, his advisers must have told him that the very, very best way to get re-elected and stifle opposition was to start a war with Iraq, on dubious charges of WMDs.....Sure enough, the tactic "worked", except for the US body count, the trillions of debt incurred, and the instability that we now find in the region, this adventure brought to us

That lesson is not being lost by the Trump administration....No doubt N Korea IS a serious threat to that country's neighbors and, in a few years, to our own country.

However, given Trump's ego and the relinquishing of war powers by our do-nothing congress, a preemptive strike against N.Korea may be imminent, regardless of the serious concerns voiced by both Japan and S. Korea.

If such strikes against Kim Jung Un's corrupt regime do materialize, our 30, 000 troops in S. Korea AND the entire peninsula will see lots of blood.....and, of coure, our relationship with China will be greatly and adversely impacted.

Putin must be ecstatic for the instabilities away from his borders and Putin must be very happy to have installed the Trumpster in the WH. .

pffftt...every April for the past 20 years has been a North Korea Panic episode.

Call back in May or June...

 

[JustAnotherNut]

It would not be good to piss off China.......they own too much US soil

 

[nat4900]

What I AM alluding to is the similarities as to WHY we choose war when someone who is sitting in the oval office needs a boost to their approval ratings.

If put into context, it had nothing to do with approval ratings.....lack of, or boost to.......it had to do with Saddam not following thru with the requirements imposed by the Security Council's sanctions after he had invaded Kuwait.....back in 91 & under Bush SR. Saddam also continued to dodge the inspectors for 8+ years after that (the timeline includes the Bill Clinton years).

With all that going on and then hit with 9/11 and threatened with more........WTF should have Bush JR done? Sit on his ass & take it, like Obama? What do you think Hussein did with all those weapons? Gee he had 8 or more years to hide or sell them. Are you really so naïve to think he didn't have them at all? If that were the case, then why didn't he let inspectors in to do their jobs right up front......if he didn't have anything to hide?

It's morons like you who give idiots a bad name.......

FIRST, this thread is NOT a rehash of the war ON Iraq......The thread concerns the fucked up orange egomaniac who wants to look tough to his all lickers....like you.....

But, since stupid people STILL think that Saddam had WMDs and was involved in 9-11......

The scum bags that hit us on 9-11 were MOSTLY Saudis..NOT ONE IRAQI among those bastrads..if we wanted a war with a Muslim country, than we should have attacked Saudi Arabia, but GWB didn't want to attack our gas station.

Regarding Iraq, you idiots "think" that Saddam was too much of a nice guy to NOT have used his "hidden" WMDs when oyr troops were advancing on Baghdad......I guee Saddam was saving those weapons for a REALLY, REALLY RAINY DAY.....

(I guess you morons are in need of a group lobotomy.....and Trump seems to have been your surgeon)

 

[danielpalos]

When in 2002-2003 GWB's poll numbers were down and his economic policies (mostly tax breaks for the rich) were met with serious opposition, his advisers must have told him that the very, very best way to get re-elected and stifle opposition was to start a war with Iraq, on dubious charges of WMDs.....Sure enough, the tactic "worked", except for the US body count, the trillions of debt incurred, and the instability that we now find in the region, this adventure brought to us

That lesson is not being lost by the Trump administration....No doubt N Korea IS a serious threat to that country's neighbors and, in a few years, to our own country.

However, given Trump's ego and the relinquishing of war powers by our do-nothing congress, a preemptive strike against N.Korea may be imminent, regardless of the serious concerns voiced by both Japan and S. Korea.

If such strikes against Kim Jung Un's corrupt regime do materialize, our 30, 000 troops in S. Korea AND the entire peninsula will see lots of blood.....and, of coure, our relationship with China will be greatly and adversely impacted.

Putin must be ecstatic for the instabilities away from his borders and Putin must be very happy to have installed the Trumpster in the WH. .

We cannot lower taxes, during even alleged real times of War.

In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore, we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.

 

[Luddly Neddite]

When in 2002-2003 GWB's poll numbers were down and his economic policies (mostly tax breaks for the rich) were met with serious opposition, his advisers must have told him that the very, very best way to get re-elected and stifle opposition was to start a war with Iraq, on dubious charges of WMDs.....Sure enough, the tactic "worked", except for the US body count, the trillions of debt incurred, and the instability that we now find in the region, this adventure brought to us

That lesson is not being lost by the Trump administration....No doubt N Korea IS a serious threat to that country's neighbors and, in a few years, to our own country.

However, given Trump's ego and the relinquishing of war powers by our do-nothing congress, a preemptive strike against N.Korea may be imminent, regardless of the serious concerns voiced by both Japan and S. Korea.

If such strikes against Kim Jung Un's corrupt regime do materialize, our 30, 000 troops in S. Korea AND the entire peninsula will see lots of blood.....and, of coure, our relationship with China will be greatly and adversely impacted.

Putin must be ecstatic for the instabilities away from his borders and Putin must be very happy to have installed the Trumpster in the WH. .

You make excellent points.

So far, trump has failed at everything he has stuck his short fat fingers into. He needs two things right now - to appear to be in charge of something, anything. And, he needs to stay in good graces with his boss.

Add that to what he has said - that he "loves war", wants to use nukes and that he won't hesitate to break the law again, and yeah - he's looking for a war he thinks he can win.


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[Doc1]

It would not be good to piss off China.......they own too much US soil

And debt.

 

[JustAnotherNut]

What I AM alluding to is the similarities as to WHY we choose war when someone who is sitting in the oval office needs a boost to their approval ratings.

If put into context, it had nothing to do with approval ratings.....lack of, or boost to.......it had to do with Saddam not following thru with the requirements imposed by the Security Council's sanctions after he had invaded Kuwait.....back in 91 & under Bush SR. Saddam also continued to dodge the inspectors for 8+ years after that (the timeline includes the Bill Clinton years).

With all that going on and then hit with 9/11 and threatened with more........WTF should have Bush JR done? Sit on his ass & take it, like Obama? What do you think Hussein did with all those weapons? Gee he had 8 or more years to hide or sell them. Are you really so naïve to think he didn't have them at all? If that were the case, then why didn't he let inspectors in to do their jobs right up front......if he didn't have anything to hide?

It's morons like you who give idiots a bad name.......

FIRST, this thread is NOT a rehash of the war ON Iraq......The thread concerns the fucked up orange egomaniac who wants to look tough to his all lickers....like you.....

But, since stupid people STILL think that Saddam had WMDs and was involved in 9-11......

The scum bags that hit us on 9-11 were MOSTLY Saudis..NOT ONE IRAQI among those bastrads..if we wanted a war with a Muslim country, than we should have attacked Saudi Arabia, but GWB didn't want to attack our gas station.

Regarding Iraq, you idiots "think" that Saddam was too much of a nice guy to NOT have used his "hidden" WMDs when oyr troops were advancing on Baghdad......I guee Saddam was saving those weapons for a REALLY, REALLY RAINY DAY.....

(I guess you morons are in need of a group lobotomy.....and Trump seems to have been your surgeon)

In your very own words, you were comparing Bush Jr & Trump looking for favorable ratings by starting wars. My response was to put some things into perspective. True enough I had only addressed Bush Jr. I didn't like or agree with him starting that war, but those decisions are not up to me or you or anyone but the President in office at the time...that war was about Saddam having WMD even though none were found BY THE TIME HE LET INSPECTORS IN, which took over 8 years. Saddam did have WMD at the end of the Persian Gulf War way back around 1990/1991 with Bush SR. The UN Security Council ordered Iraq to eliminate his weapons cache under international supervision and he agreed. But instead dodged any outsiders for 8 years. When he did finally let the inspectors in.....the weapons were nowhere to be found.. He didn't use them all so where did they go?

Iraq: A Chronology of UN Inspections | Arms Control Association

As for 9/11, it's not about Iraq being responsible, but the whole ME region. They hate us and have for many, many years and I'm not talking so much about the governments as much as the people. Did we bring that hatred on ourselves? Probably.

If it was about their oil, then why has our dependency on foreign oil dropped significantly over the years?



Now about Trump, whatever his actions, he doesn't need or care about approval ratings. If he does hit NK, it's to take out a very dangerous threat. NK is too stupid & inexperienced with the outside world to understand how things work. All they know is the US is a powerful country and they want to show off at how powerful (in their own mind) they can be. I wouldn't put it past Kim to even think it's our fault they have been locked in a closet all these years. Anyway, he's dangerous because he's inexperienced. And if we let him keep up with those failed missile launches, sooner or later he's going to get it right. Do you really want to take that chance? I don't




Moronic idiot.....or is that Idiotic moron?

 

[The Original Tree]

The LEFT want's the US to GO TO WAR!

Why you ask?

Because they are willing to kill our soldiers so they can use THE WAR as leverage and as a political hammer to get back in to power.

They will rattle their sabers, and DEMAND WAR, and then hide when it's time to take responsibility for it and instead point the Finger At Trump while asking for Donations and Campaigning for the next 2 years.

Obama was too black to fail in NK, so they got Trump instead.

Obama would only pick on dictators that could not fight back, like Gaddafi and then say it's not really a war.

Any half wit could have removed Gaddafi. But true to form, he even failed at this as ISIS moved in and took over.

This Puke of an Ex President did not "Pick on Anyone"

He was actively participating in the Spread of Radical Islam.

There is no denying that. He funded Coups in Egypt and Libya who share a border in close proximity to Israel. He funding Islamic Extremists sworn to Israel's Destruction. He paid Al Queda, and The Muslim Brotherhood to stage the coups.

He should be hung or shot for that bit of treason alone. And HE INTENTIONALLY against all advice created the vacumn in the ME and helped ISIS to come to power, and then PAID THEM to try to overthrow SYRIA, along with AL NUSRA.
Syria is seen as soft against Israel, and radical ISLAM wants Assad out because of that.

Exactly how is Obama not in LIFE PRISON for funding Terrorists?

People look at his Foreign Policy and see it as The Most Historic Failure of a President in our Entire History in Foreign Policy.

Phuck that. He Succeeded Wildly. Destabilizing The Middle East WAS INTENTIONAL. Populating it with Terrorists Hell bent on the Destruction of Israel was INTENTIONAL.

NO ONE CAN BE THAT INCOMPETENT.

His Foreign Policy was a STROKE OF EVIL GENIUS.

Well, moront, i guess you MUST be "correct" since you bolded your entire crap....LOL (what an asshole.)

Guzzling Jihadist Jizz is not a good way to make a living.

Got ISIS?

Wipe that milk off your chin...oh....umm....that's not milk....and it doesn't look like hair gel.

How's that for being bold?

 

[Staidhup]

Wars dictated by falling approval ratings, really, and your willing to repeat this nonsense? Only dem's watch their approval ratings and respond accordingly, example: Clinton gets caught with his prick in an interns mouth, shoots a few rockets into Iraq, caught lying before congress, sends a few more. GWB approval rating is crashing, does he give a shit, hell no he proceeds with the 2006 Surge. Trump's ratings according to mainstream media are in the tank, well that is only if you believe one thing out the mouths of mainstream media, and you think he gives a shit what the liberal bed wetters have to say? Face it unlike what the progressive compassionate beltway repubs fear the most the Donald doesn't give a shit about. A very unpleasant dilemma for those that live and die based on public opinion.

 

[Lastamender]

When in 2002-2003 GWB's poll numbers were down and his economic policies (mostly tax breaks for the rich) were met with serious opposition, his advisers must have told him that the very, very best way to get re-elected and stifle opposition was to start a war with Iraq, on dubious charges of WMDs.....Sure enough, the tactic "worked", except for the US body count, the trillions of debt incurred, and the instability that we now find in the region, this adventure brought to us

That lesson is not being lost by the Trump administration....No doubt N Korea IS a serious threat to that country's neighbors and, in a few years, to our own country.

However, given Trump's ego and the relinquishing of war powers by our do-nothing congress, a preemptive strike against N.Korea may be imminent, regardless of the serious concerns voiced by both Japan and S. Korea.

If such strikes against Kim Jung Un's corrupt regime do materialize, our 30, 000 troops in S. Korea AND the entire peninsula will see lots of blood.....and, of coure, our relationship with China will be greatly and adversely impacted.

Putin must be ecstatic for the instabilities away from his borders and Putin must be very happy to have installed the Trumpster in the WH. .

Why don't you get a head start? Put your head between your legs and kiss your ass goodbye. We had that drill in school.

The next nuclear weapon used will be from terrorists or globalists who are friends right now.

 

[JimH52]

If Trump's poll number's are down, he'll simply make better one's up. Which is his luxury. Considering the position he's been in from the start, it's not like his career is hanging by a thread dependent on public attitude.

Actually his numbers are steadily climbing and this is despite a BILLION DOLLAR effort to attempt to keep his poll numbers down.

But anyone with intelligence pays NO ATTENTION to POLLS, really.

Funny you should use the word Intelligence. Cause that is what the FBI is using to build the evidence needed to put the Comrade Trump administration in jail. Soon...

LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!

 

[Avatar4321]

What I AM alluding to is the similarities as to WHY we choose war when someone who is sitting in the oval office needs a boost to their approval ratings.

If put into context, it had nothing to do with approval ratings.....lack of, or boost to.......it had to do with Saddam not following thru with the requirements imposed by the Security Council's sanctions after he had invaded Kuwait.....back in 91 & under Bush SR. Saddam also continued to dodge the inspectors for 8+ years after that (the timeline includes the Bill Clinton years).

With all that going on and then hit with 9/11 and threatened with more........WTF should have Bush JR done? Sit on his ass & take it, like Obama? What do you think Hussein did with all those weapons? Gee he had 8 or more years to hide or sell them. Are you really so naïve to think he didn't have them at all? If that were the case, then why didn't he let inspectors in to do their jobs right up front......if he didn't have anything to hide?

It's morons like you who give idiots a bad name.......

FIRST, this thread is NOT a rehash of the war ON Iraq......The thread concerns the fucked up orange egomaniac who wants to look tough to his all lickers....like you.....

But, since stupid people STILL think that Saddam had WMDs and was involved in 9-11......

The scum bags that hit us on 9-11 were MOSTLY Saudis..NOT ONE IRAQI among those bastrads..if we wanted a war with a Muslim country, than we should have attacked Saudi Arabia, but GWB didn't want to attack our gas station.

Regarding Iraq, you idiots "think" that Saddam was too much of a nice guy to NOT have used his "hidden" WMDs when oyr troops were advancing on Baghdad......I guee Saddam was saving those weapons for a REALLY, REALLY RAINY DAY.....

(I guess you morons are in need of a group lobotomy.....and Trump seems to have been your surgeon)

You would think that it being almost 15 years later you guys would stop pretending anyone said Iraq was involved with 9/11. It was a straw man then and it still isn't a real boy

 

[Avatar4321]

If Trump's poll number's are down, he'll simply make better one's up. Which is his luxury. Considering the position he's been in from the start, it's not like his career is hanging by a thread dependent on public attitude.

Actually his numbers are steadily climbing and this is despite a BILLION DOLLAR effort to attempt to keep his poll numbers down.

But anyone with intelligence pays NO ATTENTION to POLLS, really.

Funny you should use the word Intelligence. Cause that is what the FBI is using to build the evidence needed to put the Comrade Trump administration in jail. Soon...

LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP! LOCK HIM UP!

I'm so sorry