Why are republicans so stupid when it comes to Food Stamps?

[JonKoch]

I said the same thing about Dubya's war of choice cupcake

I agree about that, cupcake.
The federal government fucks everything up it touches

Almost like a plan cupcake

"Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives to limit government spending by cutting taxes, in order to deprive the federal government of revenue in a deliberate effort to force it to reduce spending.


Before his election as President, then-candidate Ronald Reagan foreshadowed the strategy during the 1980 US Presidential debates, saying "John Anderson tells us that first we've got to reduce spending before we can reduce taxes. Well, if you've got a kid that's extravagant, you can lecture him all you want to about his extravagance. Or you can cut his allowance and achieve the same end much quicker."

Starve the beast - Wikipedia

Well, the federal government does not need my money or millions just like me…

Cupcake, that's why the millions like you don't pay income taxes....

I have three years of extensions trying to find loopholes to lower my tax rate… Put that in your village and smoke it

Sure you do cupcake, bet you are better known as the Orange One huh? lol

 

[JonKoch]

Food stamp use increased 70% during the Obama years. Is that good news or bad news to the left?

Because we had a horrible depression brought about after 8 years of GW.

That's fine blame the president before the Masai Obama, but remember this when us Trumpsters blame problems on the last presidents 8 years. Isn't that fair?


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You mean a growing economy versus one dumping 9%+ the last quarter of 2008?

DECEMBER 2007


THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES OF MR. BUSH
The next president will have to deal with yet another crippling legacy of George W. Bush: the economy. A Nobel laureate, Joseph E. Stiglitz, sees a generation-long struggle to recoup.

The Economic Consequences of Mr. Bush

By the time Obama was inaugurated in 2009, the unemployment rate had spiked from 5 percent to 7.8 percent, on its way to 10 percent a few months later. A rising tide of middle-class families were losing homes, turning to food stamps and seeking government-sponsored health care for the first time.

Yet Obama handed Trump the reins of an economy with a 4.7 percent unemployment rate; 75 consecutive months of job growth;rising stock prices, home values, corporate profits and consumer confidence; low inflation; and, following several years of sluggish income growth, a record spike in middle-class incomes.

In 2016, increases in hourly earnings accelerated, which, when combined with increased rates of employment, helped boost overall household incomes. Real household debt is lower than it was in 2006.

"As 2016 ends, the U.S. labor market is in its best shape since the recession, with nearly every measure of the market at its most favorable level in years," economist Jed Kolko concluded in his end-of-the-year report for the jobs website Indeed.

In other words, Obama left the economy in much better shape than he inherited it, even if it remains imperfect for every American.

Did Donald Trump inherit 'a mess' from Barack Obama?

Did Trump inherit a mess? 8 charts show otherwise

Did Trump inherit a mess? 8 charts show otherwise


IT'S CALLED CRITICAL THINKING AND REASONING CUPCAKE!

Tax cuts were never the federal government's to begin with... shit for brains

Sorry cupcake, unless you cut spending, you just drive up debt like Ronnie/Dubya did Cupcake

 

[JonKoch]

nothing but riddles instead of a valid argument? can you re-state your position in a more cogent and concise form?

What valid argument have you made....?

Only the right wing never gets it.

Why do the rich make as much as they do?

Only the right wing is that cognitively dissonant.

What valid argument have you made ?

Answer the question, moron.

Only the right wing is cognitively dissonant enough to want to know, how much persons make when they are poor, but claim we should not care how much the rich make.

And how is that ?

Do the rich get welfare and foodstamps ?

YES

 

[JonKoch]

There is never a good reason to make people pay for socialist entitlement programs like food stamps without their permission... all socialist entitlement programs should be an opt in. If not they are not worth the paper they are printed on.

I said the same thing about Dubya's war of choice cupcake

I agree about that, cupcake.
The federal government fucks everything up it touches

Especially with CONservatives/GOPers in charge cupcake

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Typical right wing cupcake who ignores EVERYTHING else but says look at the chart:

" The decline happened years before the so-called war on poverty,":

HINT THE CHART SHOWS ALMOST 20% IN POVERTY BEFORE THE WAR ON POVERTY STARTED CUPCAKE, GOING TO BELOW 12%.

again, thanks for ignoring everything else about it though cupcake

If the poverty rate was already in decline, it just continued to decline after the so-called war on poverty started. This is not to mention that no policy has results for several years after it starts. IOW, it proves absolutely nothing.

Weird so it STARTED to decline but got nothing with LBJ's war on it huh? *shaking head*

Typical cupcake

That's exactly it fruitcake. The only way you could make that case is if the poverty level started to drop two years after the war on poverty officially started. But it didn't. Using your very own chart, it shows that poverty was dropping before his socialist programs, during his socialist programs, and after he started his socialist programs. IOW, it didn't make a difference whatsoever.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Still, Democrats have used the food stamp program twice as much as Republicans. That's a fact.

Did you note how the percentages did not add up close to the actual Demn/Rep percentages? Your study is based on questionaires & not everyone stated their party.

Republicans rant & rave & rail against those needing assistance, that Republicans probably didn't want people to know they needed help.

HTF would somebody not know if they needed help? Geez

"Despite government claims, the job market is still lagging. The poverty rate is on the rise, The Journal says. And federal laws passed under former President Clinton and further under Mr. Obama are actually driving the enrollment rate higher. Those laws allow for those with higher incomes to take food stamps — the logic being that helping people before they reach crisis financial level will actually stimulate the economy, The Journal says."

Food stamp president: Enrollment up 70 percent under Obama

I KNOW THIS MUST BE A RIGHT WING LIE, AFTER 8 YEARS OF DUBYA/GOP "JOB CREATOR" POLICIES CUPCAKE? COME ON


But you have to go back to 2013 huh?

HOW BIG OF A HOLE DID DUBYA/GOP DIG AGAIN CUPCAKE?

The reason I went back to 2013 (supposedly long after the recession ended) was to prove that food stamps rose because of changes in regulations--not poverty.

What you need to understand fruitcake is that Democrats want to expand their voting base just like Republicans. One way of doing that is to create more government dependents. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters. It had nothing to do with poverty. It had to do with getting more voters for the DNC.

 

[Rustic]

Food stamp use increased 70% during the Obama years. Is that good news or bad news to the left?

Because we had a horrible depression brought about after 8 years of GW.

That's fine blame the president before the Masai Obama, but remember this when us Trumpsters blame problems on the last presidents 8 years. Isn't that fair?


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You mean a growing economy versus one dumping 9%+ the last quarter of 2008?

DECEMBER 2007


THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES OF MR. BUSH
The next president will have to deal with yet another crippling legacy of George W. Bush: the economy. A Nobel laureate, Joseph E. Stiglitz, sees a generation-long struggle to recoup.

The Economic Consequences of Mr. Bush

By the time Obama was inaugurated in 2009, the unemployment rate had spiked from 5 percent to 7.8 percent, on its way to 10 percent a few months later. A rising tide of middle-class families were losing homes, turning to food stamps and seeking government-sponsored health care for the first time.

Yet Obama handed Trump the reins of an economy with a 4.7 percent unemployment rate; 75 consecutive months of job growth;rising stock prices, home values, corporate profits and consumer confidence; low inflation; and, following several years of sluggish income growth, a record spike in middle-class incomes.

In 2016, increases in hourly earnings accelerated, which, when combined with increased rates of employment, helped boost overall household incomes. Real household debt is lower than it was in 2006.

"As 2016 ends, the U.S. labor market is in its best shape since the recession, with nearly every measure of the market at its most favorable level in years," economist Jed Kolko concluded in his end-of-the-year report for the jobs website Indeed.

In other words, Obama left the economy in much better shape than he inherited it, even if it remains imperfect for every American.

Did Donald Trump inherit 'a mess' from Barack Obama?

Did Trump inherit a mess? 8 charts show otherwise

Did Trump inherit a mess? 8 charts show otherwise


IT'S CALLED CRITICAL THINKING AND REASONING CUPCAKE!

Tax cuts were never the federal government's to begin with... shit for brains

Sorry cupcake, unless you cut spending, you just drive up debt like Ronnie/Dubya did Cupcake

 

[JonKoch]

Typical right wing cupcake who ignores EVERYTHING else but says look at the chart:

" The decline happened years before the so-called war on poverty,":

HINT THE CHART SHOWS ALMOST 20% IN POVERTY BEFORE THE WAR ON POVERTY STARTED CUPCAKE, GOING TO BELOW 12%.

again, thanks for ignoring everything else about it though cupcake

If the poverty rate was already in decline, it just continued to decline after the so-called war on poverty started. This is not to mention that no policy has results for several years after it starts. IOW, it proves absolutely nothing.

Weird so it STARTED to decline but got nothing with LBJ's war on it huh? *shaking head*

Typical cupcake

That's exactly it fruitcake. The only way you could make that case is if the poverty level started to drop two years after the war on poverty officially started. But it didn't. Using your very own chart, it shows that poverty was dropping before his socialist programs, during his socialist programs, and after he started his socialist programs. IOW, it didn't make a difference whatsoever.

Sorry cupcake, care to share where it takes 2 years to help get people out of poverty? Hint Medicare started then and it was IMMEDIATE Cupcake

Yes, it was dropping, who said it would continue WITHOUT the LBJ works cupcake?

 

[Rustic]

I agree about that, cupcake.
The federal government fucks everything up it touches

Almost like a plan cupcake

"Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives to limit government spending by cutting taxes, in order to deprive the federal government of revenue in a deliberate effort to force it to reduce spending.


Before his election as President, then-candidate Ronald Reagan foreshadowed the strategy during the 1980 US Presidential debates, saying "John Anderson tells us that first we've got to reduce spending before we can reduce taxes. Well, if you've got a kid that's extravagant, you can lecture him all you want to about his extravagance. Or you can cut his allowance and achieve the same end much quicker."

Starve the beast - Wikipedia

Well, the federal government does not need my money or millions just like me…

Cupcake, that's why the millions like you don't pay income taxes....

I have three years of extensions trying to find loopholes to lower my tax rate… Put that in your village and smoke it

Sure you do cupcake, bet you are better known as the Orange One huh? lol

Filing for multiple extensions is extremely common with "S" corporations...

 

[JonKoch]

Did you note how the percentages did not add up close to the actual Demn/Rep percentages? Your study is based on questionaires & not everyone stated their party.

Republicans rant & rave & rail against those needing assistance, that Republicans probably didn't want people to know they needed help.

HTF would somebody not know if they needed help? Geez

"Despite government claims, the job market is still lagging. The poverty rate is on the rise, The Journal says. And federal laws passed under former President Clinton and further under Mr. Obama are actually driving the enrollment rate higher. Those laws allow for those with higher incomes to take food stamps — the logic being that helping people before they reach crisis financial level will actually stimulate the economy, The Journal says."

Food stamp president: Enrollment up 70 percent under Obama

I KNOW THIS MUST BE A RIGHT WING LIE, AFTER 8 YEARS OF DUBYA/GOP "JOB CREATOR" POLICIES CUPCAKE? COME ON


But you have to go back to 2013 huh?

HOW BIG OF A HOLE DID DUBYA/GOP DIG AGAIN CUPCAKE?

The reason I went back to 2013 (supposedly long after the recession ended) was to prove that food stamps rose because of changes in regulations--not poverty.

What you need to understand fruitcake is that Democrats want to expand their voting base just like Republicans. One way of doing that is to create more government dependents. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters. It had nothing to do with poverty. It had to do with getting more voters for the DNC.

OK Cupcake SHOW why it was Dems versus 8 years of Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies that drove US into the hole? You know how big of a hole Dubya's great recession was right?


$16 TRILLION OF LOST WEALTH

7 MILLION LOST JOBS

10 MILLION HOMES FORECLOSED

MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF HOMES UPSIDE DOWN!

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Yes, it was dropping, who said it would continue WITHOUT the LBJ works cupcake?

What proof do you have it wouldn't fruitcake? Seems to me we were on the right track long before he did anything.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

HTF would somebody not know if they needed help? Geez

"Despite government claims, the job market is still lagging. The poverty rate is on the rise, The Journal says. And federal laws passed under former President Clinton and further under Mr. Obama are actually driving the enrollment rate higher. Those laws allow for those with higher incomes to take food stamps — the logic being that helping people before they reach crisis financial level will actually stimulate the economy, The Journal says."

Food stamp president: Enrollment up 70 percent under Obama

I KNOW THIS MUST BE A RIGHT WING LIE, AFTER 8 YEARS OF DUBYA/GOP "JOB CREATOR" POLICIES CUPCAKE? COME ON


But you have to go back to 2013 huh?

HOW BIG OF A HOLE DID DUBYA/GOP DIG AGAIN CUPCAKE?

The reason I went back to 2013 (supposedly long after the recession ended) was to prove that food stamps rose because of changes in regulations--not poverty.

What you need to understand fruitcake is that Democrats want to expand their voting base just like Republicans. One way of doing that is to create more government dependents. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters. It had nothing to do with poverty. It had to do with getting more voters for the DNC.

OK Cupcake SHOW why it was Dems versus 8 years of Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies that drove US into the hole? You know how big of a hole Dubya's great recession was right?


$16 TRILLION OF LOST WEALTH

7 MILLION LOST JOBS

10 MILLION HOMES FORECLOSED

MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF HOMES UPSIDE DOWN!

And that was all W's fault? It was partially his fault, but the beginning of the housing bubble regulations that started it was long before W took office. Care to see them? I'll be glad to post the links.

 

[JonKoch]

Because we had a horrible depression brought about after 8 years of GW.

That's fine blame the president before the Masai Obama, but remember this when us Trumpsters blame problems on the last presidents 8 years. Isn't that fair?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You mean a growing economy versus one dumping 9%+ the last quarter of 2008?

DECEMBER 2007


THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES OF MR. BUSH
The next president will have to deal with yet another crippling legacy of George W. Bush: the economy. A Nobel laureate, Joseph E. Stiglitz, sees a generation-long struggle to recoup.

The Economic Consequences of Mr. Bush

By the time Obama was inaugurated in 2009, the unemployment rate had spiked from 5 percent to 7.8 percent, on its way to 10 percent a few months later. A rising tide of middle-class families were losing homes, turning to food stamps and seeking government-sponsored health care for the first time.

Yet Obama handed Trump the reins of an economy with a 4.7 percent unemployment rate; 75 consecutive months of job growth;rising stock prices, home values, corporate profits and consumer confidence; low inflation; and, following several years of sluggish income growth, a record spike in middle-class incomes.

In 2016, increases in hourly earnings accelerated, which, when combined with increased rates of employment, helped boost overall household incomes. Real household debt is lower than it was in 2006.

"As 2016 ends, the U.S. labor market is in its best shape since the recession, with nearly every measure of the market at its most favorable level in years," economist Jed Kolko concluded in his end-of-the-year report for the jobs website Indeed.

In other words, Obama left the economy in much better shape than he inherited it, even if it remains imperfect for every American.

Did Donald Trump inherit 'a mess' from Barack Obama?

Did Trump inherit a mess? 8 charts show otherwise

Did Trump inherit a mess? 8 charts show otherwise


IT'S CALLED CRITICAL THINKING AND REASONING CUPCAKE!

Tax cuts were never the federal government's to begin with... shit for brains

Sorry cupcake, unless you cut spending, you just drive up debt like Ronnie/Dubya did Cupcake

Yeah, sorry I forgot ALL THOSE TAX CUTS AND WAR COSTS STOP THE DAY THE NEXT GUY STEPS INTO OFFICE *SHAKING HEAD*

This site tracks the current Reagan Bush Debt.


The Reagan-Bush Debt is how much of the national debt of the United States is attributable to the presidencies of Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, and the Republican fiscal policy of Borrow-And-Spend.

As of Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 7:39:10PM CT,

The Current ReaganBush Debt is:

$18,640,055,846,016.00

which means that in a total of 20 years, these three presidents have led to the creation of 93.85%
of the entire national debt


In only 8.2988% of the 241 years of the existence of the United States of America.

ReaganBushDebt.org

 

[JonKoch]

Almost like a plan cupcake

"Starving the beast" is a political strategy employed by American conservatives to limit government spending by cutting taxes, in order to deprive the federal government of revenue in a deliberate effort to force it to reduce spending.


Before his election as President, then-candidate Ronald Reagan foreshadowed the strategy during the 1980 US Presidential debates, saying "John Anderson tells us that first we've got to reduce spending before we can reduce taxes. Well, if you've got a kid that's extravagant, you can lecture him all you want to about his extravagance. Or you can cut his allowance and achieve the same end much quicker."

Starve the beast - Wikipedia

Well, the federal government does not need my money or millions just like me…

Cupcake, that's why the millions like you don't pay income taxes....

I have three years of extensions trying to find loopholes to lower my tax rate… Put that in your village and smoke it

Sure you do cupcake, bet you are better known as the Orange One huh? lol

Filing for multiple extensions is extremely common with "S" corporations...

Sure cupcake, I "believe" you

 

[Rustic]

HTF would somebody not know if they needed help? Geez

"Despite government claims, the job market is still lagging. The poverty rate is on the rise, The Journal says. And federal laws passed under former President Clinton and further under Mr. Obama are actually driving the enrollment rate higher. Those laws allow for those with higher incomes to take food stamps — the logic being that helping people before they reach crisis financial level will actually stimulate the economy, The Journal says."

Food stamp president: Enrollment up 70 percent under Obama

I KNOW THIS MUST BE A RIGHT WING LIE, AFTER 8 YEARS OF DUBYA/GOP "JOB CREATOR" POLICIES CUPCAKE? COME ON


But you have to go back to 2013 huh?

HOW BIG OF A HOLE DID DUBYA/GOP DIG AGAIN CUPCAKE?

The reason I went back to 2013 (supposedly long after the recession ended) was to prove that food stamps rose because of changes in regulations--not poverty.

What you need to understand fruitcake is that Democrats want to expand their voting base just like Republicans. One way of doing that is to create more government dependents. The more government dependents, the more likely Democrat voters. It had nothing to do with poverty. It had to do with getting more voters for the DNC.

OK Cupcake SHOW why it was Dems versus 8 years of Dubya/GOP "job creator" policies that drove US into the hole? You know how big of a hole Dubya's great recession was right?


$16 TRILLION OF LOST WEALTH

7 MILLION LOST JOBS

10 MILLION HOMES FORECLOSED

MILLIONS AND MILLIONS OF HOMES UPSIDE DOWN!

All career politicians no matter what side of the aisle they are on are the same... spending other People's Money and wasting it

 

[Rustic]

That's fine blame the president before the Masai Obama, but remember this when us Trumpsters blame problems on the last presidents 8 years. Isn't that fair?


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

You mean a growing economy versus one dumping 9%+ the last quarter of 2008?

DECEMBER 2007


THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES OF MR. BUSH
The next president will have to deal with yet another crippling legacy of George W. Bush: the economy. A Nobel laureate, Joseph E. Stiglitz, sees a generation-long struggle to recoup.

The Economic Consequences of Mr. Bush

By the time Obama was inaugurated in 2009, the unemployment rate had spiked from 5 percent to 7.8 percent, on its way to 10 percent a few months later. A rising tide of middle-class families were losing homes, turning to food stamps and seeking government-sponsored health care for the first time.

Yet Obama handed Trump the reins of an economy with a 4.7 percent unemployment rate; 75 consecutive months of job growth;rising stock prices, home values, corporate profits and consumer confidence; low inflation; and, following several years of sluggish income growth, a record spike in middle-class incomes.

In 2016, increases in hourly earnings accelerated, which, when combined with increased rates of employment, helped boost overall household incomes. Real household debt is lower than it was in 2006.

"As 2016 ends, the U.S. labor market is in its best shape since the recession, with nearly every measure of the market at its most favorable level in years," economist Jed Kolko concluded in his end-of-the-year report for the jobs website Indeed.

In other words, Obama left the economy in much better shape than he inherited it, even if it remains imperfect for every American.

Did Donald Trump inherit 'a mess' from Barack Obama?

Did Trump inherit a mess? 8 charts show otherwise

Did Trump inherit a mess? 8 charts show otherwise


IT'S CALLED CRITICAL THINKING AND REASONING CUPCAKE!

Tax cuts were never the federal government's to begin with... shit for brains

Sorry cupcake, unless you cut spending, you just drive up debt like Ronnie/Dubya did Cupcake

Yeah, sorry I forgot ALL THOSE TAX CUTS AND WAR COSTS STOP THE DAY THE NEXT GUY STEPS INTO OFFICE *SHAKING HEAD*

This site tracks the current Reagan Bush Debt.


The Reagan-Bush Debt is how much of the national debt of the United States is attributable to the presidencies of Ronald Reagan, George H. W. Bush, George W. Bush, and the Republican fiscal policy of Borrow-And-Spend.

As of Tuesday, May 30, 2017 at 7:39:10PM CT,

The Current ReaganBush Debt is:

$18,640,055,846,016.00

which means that in a total of 20 years, these three presidents have led to the creation of 93.85%
of the entire national debt


In only 8.2988% of the 241 years of the existence of the United States of America.

ReaganBushDebt.org

Cut taxes and have never been the government to begin with

 

[Rustic]

Well, the federal government does not need my money or millions just like me…

Cupcake, that's why the millions like you don't pay income taxes....

I have three years of extensions trying to find loopholes to lower my tax rate… Put that in your village and smoke it

Sure you do cupcake, bet you are better known as the Orange One huh? lol

Filing for multiple extensions is extremely common with "S" corporations...

Sure cupcake, I "believe" you

Understandable coming from a control freak like yourself… Go back to your safe space snowflake

 

[JonKoch]

Yes, it was dropping, who said it would continue WITHOUT the LBJ works cupcake?

What proof do you have it wouldn't fruitcake? Seems to me we were on the right track long before he did anything.

YOU made the posit it was going down REGARDLESS cupcake, seems YOU should be able to back it up?

5. Did it reduce poverty, actually?

It did. A recent study from economists at Columbia broke down changes in poverty before and after the government gets involved in the form of taxes and transfers, and found that, when you take government intervention into account, poverty is down considerably from 1967 to 2012, from 26 percent to 16 percent:


WAPO

Everything you need to know about the war on poverty


Indeed, Demos estimates that 40 million Americans were kept out of poverty due to food stamps, the Earned Income Tax Credit, Medicaid, and other programs in 2010.

WAPO

Poverty in the 50 years since ‘The Other America,’ in five charts

 

[Rustic]

Yes, it was dropping, who said it would continue WITHOUT the LBJ works cupcake?

What proof do you have it wouldn't fruitcake? Seems to me we were on the right track long before he did anything.

YOU made the posit it was going down REGARDLESS cupcake, seems YOU should be able to back it up?

5. Did it reduce poverty, actually?

It did. A recent study from economists at Columbia broke down changes in poverty before and after the government gets involved in the form of taxes and transfers, and found that, when you take government intervention into account, poverty is down considerably from 1967 to 2012, from 26 percent to 16 percent:


WAPO

Everything you need to know about the war on poverty


Indeed, Demos estimates that 40 million Americans were kept out of poverty due to food stamps, the Earned Income Tax Credit, Medicaid, and other programs in 2010.

WAPO

Poverty in the 50 years since ‘The Other America,’ in five charts

Teach a man to fish goes a lot farther than giving man a fish… Jack weed

 

[healthmyths]

Putting GWB and Obama terms in perspective with the actual numbers.
Some major considerations:
A) Under GWB major events occurred that have never occurred in 8 years as they did under GWB.
Inherited a recession. A dot.com bust that lost $8 Trillion which meant those losses are deducted from tax revenue.
B) Under GWB TARP was passed and under Obama it was ALL PAID BACK plus a $75.8 Billion profit!
C) In spite of NO events, in spite of TARP being repaid Obama's deficits over 8 years nearly doubled the national debt.
From 2009 to 2013 Obama spent $4.8 Trillion MORE then receipts. And from 2014 to 2016 added another $2 Trillion by spending more then what came.
In spite of all of TARP being paid back. In spite of NO major hurricanes. In spite of no major events like dot.com or 9/11 or anthrax attacks or the 9/18/08 economic
attack on America when $500B was moved out of the nearly $4T money market funds in less then 2 hours. In spite of NO EVENTS like these.. Obama nearly
doubled the national debt. More people on welfare.