Why are republicans such drama queens when it comes to guns?

[Billy000]

I honestly feel as though republicans/Rightwingers are the ones who make the biggest issue out of guns. It's amazing they can be so dramatic about the 2nd amendment. It's purely emotional really. It makes them see threats that really aren't there. Even now 7 years into Obama's presidency some of them still believe he is coming for their guns despite the fact that he has NEVER advocated for gun grabbing of any kind. All he talks about is better regulation and exploring resolving issues associated with violent mentally ill people to prevent gun violence. It concerns him and other liberals that 11,000 people die of gun violence per year. Isn't that reasonable? Shouldn't SOMETHING be done about that? Wouldn't gun nuts prefer laws that prevent terrorists from obtaining weapons? No one is talking about abolishing the 2nd amendment. I mean my god talk about absolutely impossible. No democrat would even want to try.

Gun nuts fail to grasp any level of nuance in the gun control issue. They see any democrat push of gun control as an automatic slippery slope to gun grabbing and abolishing the 2nd amendment. It is so goddam delusional. Nothing about that is rooted in reality.

I honestly feel that deep down many gun nuts WANT democrats to push gun control legislation. I mean for starters gun control legislation rarely ever passes. Gun nuts really have nothing to fear. What it comes down to is living in fantasy land. They LIKE the idea of the threat. Their 12 year old minds make them imagine themselves standing up for liberty and taking down government tyranny with their weapons of freedom! Hollywood stuff you know? It makes them feel more like masculine. It makes them forget about their small penises.

Now all that being said. Can we come to a mutual COMPROMISE on the gun control issue?

 

[Two Thumbs]

leftist don't compromise

if they did, they would know that we have already compromised

 

[aaronleland]

I don't have a small penis.

 

[easyt65]

The GOP aren't drama queens.

The Constitution establishes their right to bear arms. The drama queens are the anti-constitution libs who believe the only people who should have guns are their body guards and the Mexican Drug Cartels and terrorists to whom they choose to give guns. They think 'just one more law' will prevent criminals from using guns in crimes... because criminals abide by laws ... but they don't believe in punishing criminals - they release them...or at least the illegal alien ones...

They will not be happy until all law-abiding citizens are disarmed.

 

[Billy000]

The GOP aren't drama queens.

The Constitution establishes their right to bear arms. The drama queens are the anti-constitution libs who believe the only people who should have guns are their body guards and the Mexican Drug Cartels and terrorists to whom they choose to give guns. They think 'just one more law' will prevent criminals from using guns in crimes... because criminals abide by laws ... but they don't believe in punishing criminals - they release them...or at least the illegal alien ones...

They will not be happy until all law-abiding citizens are disarmed.

Christ. This is what I am talking about. You people live in a fantasy land. No democrat in ofiice has EVER proposed confiscating guns and abolishing the 2nd amendment. The large majority of Americans - myself included - are not asking for that. What you're talking about is non sense. Are you completely incapable of critical thinking?

 

[Skull Pilot]

I honestly feel as though republicans/Rightwingers are the ones who make the biggest issue out of guns. It's amazing they can be so dramatic about the 2nd amendment. It's purely emotional really. It makes them see threats that really aren't there. Even now 7 years into Obama's presidency some of them still believe he is coming for their guns despite the fact that he has NEVER advocated for gun grabbing of any kind. All he talks about is better regulation and exploring resolving issues associated with violent mentally ill people to prevent gun violence. It concerns him and other liberals that 11,000 people die of gun violence per year. Isn't that reasonable? Shouldn't SOMETHING be done about that? Wouldn't gun nuts prefer laws that prevent terrorists from obtaining weapons? No one is talking about abolishing the 2nd amendment. I mean my god talk about absolutely impossible. No democrat would even want to try.

Gun nuts fail to grasp any level of nuance in the gun control issue. They see any democrat push of gun control as an automatic slippery slope to gun grabbing and abolishing the 2nd amendment. It is so goddam delusional. Nothing about that is rooted in reality.

I honestly feel that deep down many gun nuts WANT democrats to push gun control legislation. I mean for starters gun control legislation rarely ever passes. Gun nuts really have nothing to fear. What it comes down to is living in fantasy land. They LIKE the idea of the threat. Their 12 year old minds make them imagine themselves standing up for liberty and taking down government tyranny with their weapons of freedom! Hollywood stuff you know? It makes them feel more like masculine. It makes them forget about their small penises.

Now all that being said. Can we come to a mutual COMPROMISE on the gun control issue?

What's emotional are all the anti second amendment people out there who think the actions of an extreme minority are justification to make if difficult or impossible for a law abiding citizen to exercise his legal right

Tell me would you be so glib if the first, fourth or fifth amendments were subject to the same restrictions you want for the second?

 

[Billy000]

I honestly feel as though republicans/Rightwingers are the ones who make the biggest issue out of guns. It's amazing they can be so dramatic about the 2nd amendment. It's purely emotional really. It makes them see threats that really aren't there. Even now 7 years into Obama's presidency some of them still believe he is coming for their guns despite the fact that he has NEVER advocated for gun grabbing of any kind. All he talks about is better regulation and exploring resolving issues associated with violent mentally ill people to prevent gun violence. It concerns him and other liberals that 11,000 people die of gun violence per year. Isn't that reasonable? Shouldn't SOMETHING be done about that? Wouldn't gun nuts prefer laws that prevent terrorists from obtaining weapons? No one is talking about abolishing the 2nd amendment. I mean my god talk about absolutely impossible. No democrat would even want to try.

Gun nuts fail to grasp any level of nuance in the gun control issue. They see any democrat push of gun control as an automatic slippery slope to gun grabbing and abolishing the 2nd amendment. It is so goddam delusional. Nothing about that is rooted in reality.

I honestly feel that deep down many gun nuts WANT democrats to push gun control legislation. I mean for starters gun control legislation rarely ever passes. Gun nuts really have nothing to fear. What it comes down to is living in fantasy land. They LIKE the idea of the threat. Their 12 year old minds make them imagine themselves standing up for liberty and taking down government tyranny with their weapons of freedom! Hollywood stuff you know? It makes them feel more like masculine. It makes them forget about their small penises.

Now all that being said. Can we come to a mutual COMPROMISE on the gun control issue?

What's emotional are all the anti second amendment people out there who think the actions of an extreme minority are justification to make if difficult or impossible for a law abiding citizen to exercise his legal right

Tell me would you be so glib if the first, fourth or fifth amendments were subject to the same restrictions you want for the second?

Difficult or impossible to get a gun? Are you kidding me? You actually believe it is difficult for any law abiding citizen to buy a gun in ANY state? Define difficult.

The 1st amendment already has restrictions. Defamation and child pornography are very much illegal.

 

[Skull Pilot]

I honestly feel as though republicans/Rightwingers are the ones who make the biggest issue out of guns. It's amazing they can be so dramatic about the 2nd amendment. It's purely emotional really. It makes them see threats that really aren't there. Even now 7 years into Obama's presidency some of them still believe he is coming for their guns despite the fact that he has NEVER advocated for gun grabbing of any kind. All he talks about is better regulation and exploring resolving issues associated with violent mentally ill people to prevent gun violence. It concerns him and other liberals that 11,000 people die of gun violence per year. Isn't that reasonable? Shouldn't SOMETHING be done about that? Wouldn't gun nuts prefer laws that prevent terrorists from obtaining weapons? No one is talking about abolishing the 2nd amendment. I mean my god talk about absolutely impossible. No democrat would even want to try.

Gun nuts fail to grasp any level of nuance in the gun control issue. They see any democrat push of gun control as an automatic slippery slope to gun grabbing and abolishing the 2nd amendment. It is so goddam delusional. Nothing about that is rooted in reality.

I honestly feel that deep down many gun nuts WANT democrats to push gun control legislation. I mean for starters gun control legislation rarely ever passes. Gun nuts really have nothing to fear. What it comes down to is living in fantasy land. They LIKE the idea of the threat. Their 12 year old minds make them imagine themselves standing up for liberty and taking down government tyranny with their weapons of freedom! Hollywood stuff you know? It makes them feel more like masculine. It makes them forget about their small penises.

Now all that being said. Can we come to a mutual COMPROMISE on the gun control issue?

What's emotional are all the anti second amendment people out there who think the actions of an extreme minority are justification to make if difficult or impossible for a law abiding citizen to exercise his legal right

Tell me would you be so glib if the first, fourth or fifth amendments were subject to the same restrictions you want for the second?

Difficult or impossible to get a gun? Are you kidding me? You actually believe it is difficult for any law abiding citizen to buy a gun in ANY state? Define difficult.

The 1st amendment already has restrictions. Defamation and child pornography are very much illegal.

Do you know the hoops I had to jump through simply to get a permit to carry a weapon?
Do you know how much it cost me?

You don't need a permit or have to be fingerprinted to exercise your first amendment rights do you?

 

[Billy000]

I honestly feel as though republicans/Rightwingers are the ones who make the biggest issue out of guns. It's amazing they can be so dramatic about the 2nd amendment. It's purely emotional really. It makes them see threats that really aren't there. Even now 7 years into Obama's presidency some of them still believe he is coming for their guns despite the fact that he has NEVER advocated for gun grabbing of any kind. All he talks about is better regulation and exploring resolving issues associated with violent mentally ill people to prevent gun violence. It concerns him and other liberals that 11,000 people die of gun violence per year. Isn't that reasonable? Shouldn't SOMETHING be done about that? Wouldn't gun nuts prefer laws that prevent terrorists from obtaining weapons? No one is talking about abolishing the 2nd amendment. I mean my god talk about absolutely impossible. No democrat would even want to try.

Gun nuts fail to grasp any level of nuance in the gun control issue. They see any democrat push of gun control as an automatic slippery slope to gun grabbing and abolishing the 2nd amendment. It is so goddam delusional. Nothing about that is rooted in reality.

I honestly feel that deep down many gun nuts WANT democrats to push gun control legislation. I mean for starters gun control legislation rarely ever passes. Gun nuts really have nothing to fear. What it comes down to is living in fantasy land. They LIKE the idea of the threat. Their 12 year old minds make them imagine themselves standing up for liberty and taking down government tyranny with their weapons of freedom! Hollywood stuff you know? It makes them feel more like masculine. It makes them forget about their small penises.

Now all that being said. Can we come to a mutual COMPROMISE on the gun control issue?

What's emotional are all the anti second amendment people out there who think the actions of an extreme minority are justification to make if difficult or impossible for a law abiding citizen to exercise his legal right

Tell me would you be so glib if the first, fourth or fifth amendments were subject to the same restrictions you want for the second?

Difficult or impossible to get a gun? Are you kidding me? You actually believe it is difficult for any law abiding citizen to buy a gun in ANY state? Define difficult.

The 1st amendment already has restrictions. Defamation and child pornography are very much illegal.

Do you know the hoops I had to jump through simply to get a permit to carry a weapon?
Do you know how much it cost me?

You don't need a permit or to be fingerprinted to exercise your first amendment rights do you?

What situation are we talking about here? The process for you to obtain a gun or carry a gun in some capacity like in public?

 

[Skull Pilot]

I honestly feel as though republicans/Rightwingers are the ones who make the biggest issue out of guns. It's amazing they can be so dramatic about the 2nd amendment. It's purely emotional really. It makes them see threats that really aren't there. Even now 7 years into Obama's presidency some of them still believe he is coming for their guns despite the fact that he has NEVER advocated for gun grabbing of any kind. All he talks about is better regulation and exploring resolving issues associated with violent mentally ill people to prevent gun violence. It concerns him and other liberals that 11,000 people die of gun violence per year. Isn't that reasonable? Shouldn't SOMETHING be done about that? Wouldn't gun nuts prefer laws that prevent terrorists from obtaining weapons? No one is talking about abolishing the 2nd amendment. I mean my god talk about absolutely impossible. No democrat would even want to try.

Gun nuts fail to grasp any level of nuance in the gun control issue. They see any democrat push of gun control as an automatic slippery slope to gun grabbing and abolishing the 2nd amendment. It is so goddam delusional. Nothing about that is rooted in reality.

I honestly feel that deep down many gun nuts WANT democrats to push gun control legislation. I mean for starters gun control legislation rarely ever passes. Gun nuts really have nothing to fear. What it comes down to is living in fantasy land. They LIKE the idea of the threat. Their 12 year old minds make them imagine themselves standing up for liberty and taking down government tyranny with their weapons of freedom! Hollywood stuff you know? It makes them feel more like masculine. It makes them forget about their small penises.

Now all that being said. Can we come to a mutual COMPROMISE on the gun control issue?

What's emotional are all the anti second amendment people out there who think the actions of an extreme minority are justification to make if difficult or impossible for a law abiding citizen to exercise his legal right

Tell me would you be so glib if the first, fourth or fifth amendments were subject to the same restrictions you want for the second?

Difficult or impossible to get a gun? Are you kidding me? You actually believe it is difficult for any law abiding citizen to buy a gun in ANY state? Define difficult.

The 1st amendment already has restrictions. Defamation and child pornography are very much illegal.

Do you know the hoops I had to jump through simply to get a permit to carry a weapon?
Do you know how much it cost me?

You don't need a permit or to be fingerprinted to exercise your first amendment rights do you?

What situation are we talking about here? The process for you to obtain a gun or carry a gun in some capacity like in public?

I cannot buy a pistol without a permit in my state
That permit process consists of mandated classes
A hefty fee
Being fingerprinted by local and state police

And I have to do it all over again every 5 years

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I honestly feel as though republicans/Rightwingers are the ones who make the biggest issue out of guns. It's amazing they can be so dramatic about the 2nd amendment. It's purely emotional really. It makes them see threats that really aren't there. Even now 7 years into Obama's presidency some of them still believe he is coming for their guns despite the fact that he has NEVER advocated for gun grabbing of any kind. All he talks about is better regulation and exploring resolving issues associated with violent mentally ill people to prevent gun violence. It concerns him and other liberals that 11,000 people die of gun violence per year. Isn't that reasonable? Shouldn't SOMETHING be done about that? Wouldn't gun nuts prefer laws that prevent terrorists from obtaining weapons? No one is talking about abolishing the 2nd amendment. I mean my god talk about absolutely impossible. No democrat would even want to try.

Gun nuts fail to grasp any level of nuance in the gun control issue. They see any democrat push of gun control as an automatic slippery slope to gun grabbing and abolishing the 2nd amendment. It is so goddam delusional. Nothing about that is rooted in reality.

I honestly feel that deep down many gun nuts WANT democrats to push gun control legislation. I mean for starters gun control legislation rarely ever passes. Gun nuts really have nothing to fear. What it comes down to is living in fantasy land. They LIKE the idea of the threat. Their 12 year old minds make them imagine themselves standing up for liberty and taking down government tyranny with their weapons of freedom! Hollywood stuff you know? It makes them feel more like masculine. It makes them forget about their small penises.

Now all that being said. Can we come to a mutual COMPROMISE on the gun control issue?

Most on the right use the lies they contrive about ‘gun control’ as a way to generate fear among the base and motivate them to vote.

 

[Billy000]

I honestly feel as though republicans/Rightwingers are the ones who make the biggest issue out of guns. It's amazing they can be so dramatic about the 2nd amendment. It's purely emotional really. It makes them see threats that really aren't there. Even now 7 years into Obama's presidency some of them still believe he is coming for their guns despite the fact that he has NEVER advocated for gun grabbing of any kind. All he talks about is better regulation and exploring resolving issues associated with violent mentally ill people to prevent gun violence. It concerns him and other liberals that 11,000 people die of gun violence per year. Isn't that reasonable? Shouldn't SOMETHING be done about that? Wouldn't gun nuts prefer laws that prevent terrorists from obtaining weapons? No one is talking about abolishing the 2nd amendment. I mean my god talk about absolutely impossible. No democrat would even want to try.

Gun nuts fail to grasp any level of nuance in the gun control issue. They see any democrat push of gun control as an automatic slippery slope to gun grabbing and abolishing the 2nd amendment. It is so goddam delusional. Nothing about that is rooted in reality.

I honestly feel that deep down many gun nuts WANT democrats to push gun control legislation. I mean for starters gun control legislation rarely ever passes. Gun nuts really have nothing to fear. What it comes down to is living in fantasy land. They LIKE the idea of the threat. Their 12 year old minds make them imagine themselves standing up for liberty and taking down government tyranny with their weapons of freedom! Hollywood stuff you know? It makes them feel more like masculine. It makes them forget about their small penises.

Now all that being said. Can we come to a mutual COMPROMISE on the gun control issue?

What's emotional are all the anti second amendment people out there who think the actions of an extreme minority are justification to make if difficult or impossible for a law abiding citizen to exercise his legal right

Tell me would you be so glib if the first, fourth or fifth amendments were subject to the same restrictions you want for the second?

Difficult or impossible to get a gun? Are you kidding me? You actually believe it is difficult for any law abiding citizen to buy a gun in ANY state? Define difficult.

The 1st amendment already has restrictions. Defamation and child pornography are very much illegal.

Do you know the hoops I had to jump through simply to get a permit to carry a weapon?
Do you know how much it cost me?

You don't need a permit or to be fingerprinted to exercise your first amendment rights do you?

What situation are we talking about here? The process for you to obtain a gun or carry a gun in some capacity like in public?

I cannot buy a pistol without a permit in my state
That permit process consists of mandated classes
A hefty fee
Being fingerprinted by local and state police

And I have to do it all over again every 5 years

Right to own your first gun. I'm sure it's much easier after that.

 

[Skull Pilot]

What's emotional are all the anti second amendment people out there who think the actions of an extreme minority are justification to make if difficult or impossible for a law abiding citizen to exercise his legal right

Tell me would you be so glib if the first, fourth or fifth amendments were subject to the same restrictions you want for the second?

Difficult or impossible to get a gun? Are you kidding me? You actually believe it is difficult for any law abiding citizen to buy a gun in ANY state? Define difficult.

The 1st amendment already has restrictions. Defamation and child pornography are very much illegal.

Do you know the hoops I had to jump through simply to get a permit to carry a weapon?
Do you know how much it cost me?

You don't need a permit or to be fingerprinted to exercise your first amendment rights do you?

What situation are we talking about here? The process for you to obtain a gun or carry a gun in some capacity like in public?

I cannot buy a pistol without a permit in my state
That permit process consists of mandated classes
A hefty fee
Being fingerprinted by local and state police

And I have to do it all over again every 5 years

Right to own your first gun. I'm sure it's much easier after that.

So what?

Why should I have to jump through all those hoops, be fingerprinted like a common criminal pay upwards of $500 and have to do it every 5 years simply to exercise a Constitutionally guranteed right?

How much would you be whining if every Constitutionally guaranteed right was subject to the same licensing process

Maybe we should make people take classes, get fingerprinted and pay fees for a Fourth Amendment Permit

 

[tinynascarfan]

The GOP aren't drama queens.

The Constitution establishes their right to bear arms. The drama queens are the anti-constitution libs who believe the only people who should have guns are their body guards and the Mexican Drug Cartels and terrorists to whom they choose to give guns. They think 'just one more law' will prevent criminals from using guns in crimes... because criminals abide by laws ... but they don't believe in punishing criminals - they release them...or at least the illegal alien ones...

They will not be happy until all law-abiding citizens are disarmed.

Christ. This is what I am talking about. You people live in a fantasy land. No democrat in ofiice has EVER proposed confiscating guns and abolishing the 2nd amendment. The large majority of Americans - myself included - are not asking for that. What you're talking about is non sense. Are you completely incapable of critical thinking?

I ain't well educated, I didn't even graduate high school, so please tell me what it is that you think democrats want in gun legislation, and yes, legislation is about the biggest word I don't have to look up.

I'm a gun owner, and I try to be a responsible one, I'm for background checks, but wouldn't have a problem with a nationwide database, for people who wanted to buy a gun.

What I mean is, a database that would issue 'right to buy' permits to people who want to buy guns, and that would eliminate the waiting period, and give the right to millions of responsible gun owners to buy guns at a gun show, or from a friend.

I have no problem weeding out the criminal element and actual nut jobs who are likely to go out and shoot up a populated area.

 

[Billy000]

Difficult or impossible to get a gun? Are you kidding me? You actually believe it is difficult for any law abiding citizen to buy a gun in ANY state? Define difficult.

The 1st amendment already has restrictions. Defamation and child pornography are very much illegal.

Do you know the hoops I had to jump through simply to get a permit to carry a weapon?
Do you know how much it cost me?

You don't need a permit or to be fingerprinted to exercise your first amendment rights do you?

What situation are we talking about here? The process for you to obtain a gun or carry a gun in some capacity like in public?

I cannot buy a pistol without a permit in my state
That permit process consists of mandated classes
A hefty fee
Being fingerprinted by local and state police

And I have to do it all over again every 5 years

Right to own your first gun. I'm sure it's much easier after that.

So what?

Why should I have to jump through all those hoops, be fingerprinted like a common criminal pay upwards of $500 and have to do it every 5 years simply to exercise a Constitutionally guranteed right?

How much would you be whining if every Constitutionally guaranteed right was subject to the same licensing process

Maybe we should make people take classes, get fingerprinted and pay fees for a Fourth Amendment Permit

Okay what exactly are all there hoops you're referring to? Besides finger printing, what else?

You can't treat all amendments the same. That's ridiculous. Obviously freedom of speech is completely harmless in comparison. It still however has limitations. It has limitations based on the consequences of law. We need to keep guns out of the wrong hands. Wouldn't you prefer to keep them out of hands of terrorists? How else would we do that?

 

[Geaux4it]

Do you know the hoops I had to jump through simply to get a permit to carry a weapon?
Do you know how much it cost me?

You don't need a permit or to be fingerprinted to exercise your first amendment rights do you?

What situation are we talking about here? The process for you to obtain a gun or carry a gun in some capacity like in public?

I cannot buy a pistol without a permit in my state
That permit process consists of mandated classes
A hefty fee
Being fingerprinted by local and state police

And I have to do it all over again every 5 years

Right to own your first gun. I'm sure it's much easier after that.

So what?

Why should I have to jump through all those hoops, be fingerprinted like a common criminal pay upwards of $500 and have to do it every 5 years simply to exercise a Constitutionally guranteed right?

How much would you be whining if every Constitutionally guaranteed right was subject to the same licensing process

Maybe we should make people take classes, get fingerprinted and pay fees for a Fourth Amendment Permit

Okay what exactly are all there hoops you're referring to? Besides finger printing, what else?

You can't treat all amendments the same. That's ridiculous. Obviously freedom of speech is completely harmless in comparison. It still however has limitations. It has limitations based on the consequences of law. We need to keep guns out of the wrong hands. Wouldn't you prefer to keep them out of hands of terrorists? How else would we do that?

This thread can directly apply to others happening calling for the ban on Muslim immigration. If I'm worried about terrorist obtaining guns in America, then I more concerned in stopping them from getting here in the first place

-Geaux

 

[Skull Pilot]

Do you know the hoops I had to jump through simply to get a permit to carry a weapon?
Do you know how much it cost me?

You don't need a permit or to be fingerprinted to exercise your first amendment rights do you?

What situation are we talking about here? The process for you to obtain a gun or carry a gun in some capacity like in public?

I cannot buy a pistol without a permit in my state
That permit process consists of mandated classes
A hefty fee
Being fingerprinted by local and state police

And I have to do it all over again every 5 years

Right to own your first gun. I'm sure it's much easier after that.

So what?

Why should I have to jump through all those hoops, be fingerprinted like a common criminal pay upwards of $500 and have to do it every 5 years simply to exercise a Constitutionally guranteed right?

How much would you be whining if every Constitutionally guaranteed right was subject to the same licensing process

Maybe we should make people take classes, get fingerprinted and pay fees for a Fourth Amendment Permit

Okay what exactly are all there hoops you're referring to? Besides finger printing, what else?

You can't treat all amendments the same. That's ridiculous. Obviously freedom of speech is completely harmless in comparison. It still however has limitations. It has limitations based on the consequences of law. We need to keep guns out of the wrong hands. Wouldn't you prefer to keep them out of hands of terrorists? How else would we do that?

I already told you some of the hoops I had to jump through and that it's every 5 years not just once

A right is a right as far as I'm concerned.

We have already seen that it is impossible to keep guns out of the hands of criminals so I don't see how making it harder and more expensive for law abiding people to exercise their legal rights does anything to stop that

 

[Billy000]

What situation are we talking about here? The process for you to obtain a gun or carry a gun in some capacity like in public?

I cannot buy a pistol without a permit in my state
That permit process consists of mandated classes
A hefty fee
Being fingerprinted by local and state police

And I have to do it all over again every 5 years

Right to own your first gun. I'm sure it's much easier after that.

So what?

Why should I have to jump through all those hoops, be fingerprinted like a common criminal pay upwards of $500 and have to do it every 5 years simply to exercise a Constitutionally guranteed right?

How much would you be whining if every Constitutionally guaranteed right was subject to the same licensing process

Maybe we should make people take classes, get fingerprinted and pay fees for a Fourth Amendment Permit

Okay what exactly are all there hoops you're referring to? Besides finger printing, what else?

You can't treat all amendments the same. That's ridiculous. Obviously freedom of speech is completely harmless in comparison. It still however has limitations. It has limitations based on the consequences of law. We need to keep guns out of the wrong hands. Wouldn't you prefer to keep them out of hands of terrorists? How else would we do that?

I already told you some of the hoops I had to jump through and that it's every 5 years not just once

A right is a right as far as I'm concerned.

We have already seen that it is impossible to keep guns out of the hands of criminals so I don't see how making harder and more expensive for law abiding people to exercise their legal rights does anything to stop that

No you didn't. You just mentioned fingerprinting. What else?

Oh Christ just because criminals still get guns, it doesn't mean we shouldn't pass laws that try to prevent it. That's like saying "well robbery still happens anyway. We may as well legalize it!"

 

[Geaux4it]

I cannot buy a pistol without a permit in my state
That permit process consists of mandated classes
A hefty fee
Being fingerprinted by local and state police

And I have to do it all over again every 5 years

Right to own your first gun. I'm sure it's much easier after that.

So what?

Why should I have to jump through all those hoops, be fingerprinted like a common criminal pay upwards of $500 and have to do it every 5 years simply to exercise a Constitutionally guranteed right?

How much would you be whining if every Constitutionally guaranteed right was subject to the same licensing process

Maybe we should make people take classes, get fingerprinted and pay fees for a Fourth Amendment Permit

Okay what exactly are all there hoops you're referring to? Besides finger printing, what else?

You can't treat all amendments the same. That's ridiculous. Obviously freedom of speech is completely harmless in comparison. It still however has limitations. It has limitations based on the consequences of law. We need to keep guns out of the wrong hands. Wouldn't you prefer to keep them out of hands of terrorists? How else would we do that?

I already told you some of the hoops I had to jump through and that it's every 5 years not just once

A right is a right as far as I'm concerned.

We have already seen that it is impossible to keep guns out of the hands of criminals so I don't see how making harder and more expensive for law abiding people to exercise their legal rights does anything to stop that

No you didn't. You just mentioned fingerprinting. What else?

Oh Christ just because criminals still get guns, it doesn't mean we shouldn't pass laws that try to prevent it. That's like saying "well robbery still happens anyway. We may as well legalize it!"

We have laws on the books already...... and they don't work.... New one will not either......

-Geaux

 

[Skull Pilot]

I cannot buy a pistol without a permit in my state
That permit process consists of mandated classes
A hefty fee
Being fingerprinted by local and state police

And I have to do it all over again every 5 years

Right to own your first gun. I'm sure it's much easier after that.

So what?

Why should I have to jump through all those hoops, be fingerprinted like a common criminal pay upwards of $500 and have to do it every 5 years simply to exercise a Constitutionally guranteed right?

How much would you be whining if every Constitutionally guaranteed right was subject to the same licensing process

Maybe we should make people take classes, get fingerprinted and pay fees for a Fourth Amendment Permit

Okay what exactly are all there hoops you're referring to? Besides finger printing, what else?

You can't treat all amendments the same. That's ridiculous. Obviously freedom of speech is completely harmless in comparison. It still however has limitations. It has limitations based on the consequences of law. We need to keep guns out of the wrong hands. Wouldn't you prefer to keep them out of hands of terrorists? How else would we do that?

I already told you some of the hoops I had to jump through and that it's every 5 years not just once

A right is a right as far as I'm concerned.

We have already seen that it is impossible to keep guns out of the hands of criminals so I don't see how making harder and more expensive for law abiding people to exercise their legal rights does anything to stop that

Oh Christ just because criminals still get guns, it doesn't mean we shouldn't pass laws that try to prevent it. That's like saying "well robbery still happens anyway. We may as well legalize it!"

Laws don't prevent crime. If they did we would have no crime

And you still haven't told me how making it even harder and more expensive than it is now for law abiding people to exercise their legal rights will do anything to stop criminals from getting guns