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That's horseshit. If you were trying to make sense of my understanding of God you wouldn't keep arguing the same old tired straw man which is not my understanding of God.I'm agnostic so I don't know if a god exists or not, and I'm trying to make sense of yours, and I can't because god created the universe and everything in it. Like birth defects and cancer, why are they herein this universe, for what purpose?I answered you. God created existence. What you make of it is up to you.Did god make everything in the universe, yes or no?That’s a false choice. God created existence. It’s up to you how you play the hand you were dealt.Either god mad everything in the universe or it didn't. Which is it?
Your logic is massively flawed. You are not espousing your beliefs. You don’t believe God created anything. You don’t believe God exists.
So you create a false argument over what you want me to believe and defend. That’s idiotic.
To make matters worse you conflate birth defects with evil. You might as well be blaming God for male pattern baldness.
You aren’t a very good troll.
Ergo your weak attempt at claiming to be agnostic is exactly that... weak.
But putting all that aside it is your firm belief that there is a universal code of common decency that you believe God has violated which is proof that God exists. Otherwise, where would you get this expectation of a universal code of common decency from?
Then why did god put such a fruit in front of them if it didn't want them to eat it?How do you know that god can't go against his nature? How do you know that god didn't created bad things on purpose?And it explains how you are wrong when you claim God is not all powerful if he did not create evil.And.....If what God did through sheer omnipotence defeated his purpose than it wouldn’t be a sign of power. It would be a sign of weakness.
God can't go against his nature. He can't oppose himself. It is silly to say that something which makes God stronger is a sign of weakness.
Evil is not extant. Evil is the absence of good. Everything that was created is good. 14 billion years ago God created existence. How can that be bad?
Men lusting after and raping little children is evil, and it exists their whole life and is a part of their personality, so extant. Now what I want to know is WHY did god put such an evil thing in this world?
See here? This is the same thinking as the other guy who simply needed to pick up the book and read like three pages and you would see. Look, God did not creat child molesters. He did not sit there and say “and on day 4 I’ll make a kid screw-in Catholic Priest, and on day 5 a hitler”, and so on. Evil was not created with people in the Bible. Evil came to be AFTER they “Adam and Eve” ate the fruit. I’m not a bible scholar, but it’s still pretty clear.
"the fact that God is logical and the supreme standard against which all things are measured."Because the only solution the first cause conundrum is something which is eternal and unchanging. It's the unchanging aspect of the solution which informs my opinion.How do you know that god can't go against his nature? How do you know that god didn't created bad things on purpose?And it explains how you are wrong when you claim God is not all powerful if he did not create evil.And.....If what God did through sheer omnipotence defeated his purpose than it wouldn’t be a sign of power. It would be a sign of weakness."God diddnt create evil."
It's really simple. If God did not create evil, he is not all powerful.
If she is Incredible Hulk Omniscient. He would have saw evil coming at her.
God can't go against his nature. He can't oppose himself. It is silly to say that something which makes God stronger is a sign of weakness.
Evil is not extant. Evil is the absence of good. Everything that was created is good. 14 billion years ago God created existence. How can that be bad?
Men lusting after and raping little children is evil, and it exists their whole life and is a part of their personality, so extant. Now what I want to know is WHY did god put such an evil thing in this world?
That and the fact that God is logical and the supreme standard against which all things are measured.
God didn't put those things into the world. Man did. And since you are a lying militant atheist, you believe damn well believe that man did it because you don't believe God exists so you must believe that man did it.
God created existence. Existence is good. It's what YOU make of it that is crap.
And putting all this aside, it is your expectation that a universal code of conduct exists and that you argue God violated that proves a universal code of conduct does exist. Why do you think that is?
How many times do I need to explain it to you that God didn't put evil into creation? Everything God created is good. That's why you don't see people celebrating bad things.That's not the point, the is WHY did god put so much evil in this universe? For what purpose? Surely god must have a reason. So stop moving the goalposts.Bingo. How are U?But for someone to choose evil, evil had to have already existed for it to even be a choice, so who made evil and put it there?
"God diddnt create evil."
It's really simple. If God did not create evil, he is not all powerful.
If she is Incredible Hulk Omniscient. He would have saw evil coming at her.
Dim bulb this one is.
Let me ask you this... where did you get the expectation that everything has to be perfect for there to be a creator?
That's rich.Be quiet, grown-ups are trying to talk.I believe that evil is the absence of good like darkness is the absence of light and cold is the absence of heat. So therefore everything God created is good. Our perception of evil is in reality our perception of the absence of good.Something that you could never understand, Taz.What does that even mean? Anything?For the Love of Man, Taz Simplely putOk, so god created evil. FINALLY!!! So my actual question is WHY did god create evil? God could have created a universe without evil, yet it didn't, WHY?
Also, God INDIRECTLY created evil. As long as we're not talking about the fallen angel.
Confirmation can be found in the fact that we don't see people doing "evil" for the sake of "evil." People do "evil" for the sake of their own good. When people do "evil" things they usually rationalize that they aren't doing "evil" things. Man prefers good over "evil" so much that when he violates it, rather than abandoning the concept, he rationalizes that he didn't violate it. You don't ever see anyone walking around celebrating their evil acts.
It's not virtuous if you are forced to be virtuous, Taz.Then why did god put such a fruit in front of them if it didn't want them to eat it?How do you know that god can't go against his nature? How do you know that god didn't created bad things on purpose?And it explains how you are wrong when you claim God is not all powerful if he did not create evil.And.....If what God did through sheer omnipotence defeated his purpose than it wouldn’t be a sign of power. It would be a sign of weakness.
God can't go against his nature. He can't oppose himself. It is silly to say that something which makes God stronger is a sign of weakness.
Evil is not extant. Evil is the absence of good. Everything that was created is good. 14 billion years ago God created existence. How can that be bad?
Men lusting after and raping little children is evil, and it exists their whole life and is a part of their personality, so extant. Now what I want to know is WHY did god put such an evil thing in this world?
See here? This is the same thinking as the other guy who simply needed to pick up the book and read like three pages and you would see. Look, God did not creat child molesters. He did not sit there and say “and on day 4 I’ll make a kid screw-in Catholic Priest, and on day 5 a hitler”, and so on. Evil was not created with people in the Bible. Evil came to be AFTER they “Adam and Eve” ate the fruit. I’m not a bible scholar, but it’s still pretty clear.
People all over the world were celebrating 9/11. Please try again.How many times do I need to explain it to you that God didn't put evil into creation? Everything God created is good. That's why you don't see people celebrating bad things.That's not the point, the is WHY did god put so much evil in this universe? For what purpose? Surely god must have a reason. So stop moving the goalposts.Bingo. How are U?"God diddnt create evil."
It's really simple. If God did not create evil, he is not all powerful.
If she is Incredible Hulk Omniscient. He would have saw evil coming at her.
Dim bulb this one is.
Let me ask you this... where did you get the expectation that everything has to be perfect for there to be a creator?
How many times do I need to explain it to you that God didn't put evil into creation? Everything God created is good. That's why you don't see people celebrating bad things.That's not the point, the is WHY did god put so much evil in this universe? For what purpose? Surely god must have a reason. So stop moving the goalposts.Bingo. How are U?"God diddnt create evil."
It's really simple. If God did not create evil, he is not all powerful.
If she is Incredible Hulk Omniscient. He would have saw evil coming at her.
Dim bulb this one is.
Let me ask you this... where did you get the expectation that everything has to be perfect for there to be a creator?
People all over the world were celebrating 9/11. Please try again.How many times do I need to explain it to you that God didn't put evil into creation? Everything God created is good. That's why you don't see people celebrating bad things.That's not the point, the is WHY did god put so much evil in this universe? For what purpose? Surely god must have a reason. So stop moving the goalposts.Bingo. How are U?Dim bulb this one is.
Let me ask you this... where did you get the expectation that everything has to be perfect for there to be a creator?
"Everything God created is good" And you know this how?
No. You don't understand my view of God.I understand your view of god, it just doesn't make sense to me.That's horseshit. If you were trying to make sense of my understanding of God you wouldn't keep arguing the same old tired straw man which is not my understanding of God.I'm agnostic so I don't know if a god exists or not, and I'm trying to make sense of yours, and I can't because god created the universe and everything in it. Like birth defects and cancer, why are they herein this universe, for what purpose?I answered you. God created existence. What you make of it is up to you.Did god make everything in the universe, yes or no?That’s a false choice. God created existence. It’s up to you how you play the hand you were dealt.
Your logic is massively flawed. You are not espousing your beliefs. You don’t believe God created anything. You don’t believe God exists.
So you create a false argument over what you want me to believe and defend. That’s idiotic.
To make matters worse you conflate birth defects with evil. You might as well be blaming God for male pattern baldness.
You aren’t a very good troll.
Ergo your weak attempt at claiming to be agnostic is exactly that... weak.
But putting all that aside it is your firm belief that there is a universal code of common decency that you believe God has violated which is proof that God exists. Otherwise, where would you get this expectation of a universal code of common decency from?
Humans have formulated a common code of decency for a peaceful society. God drowned nearly all of humanity in a flood. So god doesn't have a code of decency, that's why there is evil in this universe. Ya, that makes some sense. What do you think?
So god was playing a game he knew he's win and now humans for the rest of eternity are paying for it. See what I'm saying about not making any sense?It's not virtuous if you are forced to be virtuous, Taz.Then why did god put such a fruit in front of them if it didn't want them to eat it?How do you know that god can't go against his nature? How do you know that god didn't created bad things on purpose?And it explains how you are wrong when you claim God is not all powerful if he did not create evil.And.....
God can't go against his nature. He can't oppose himself. It is silly to say that something which makes God stronger is a sign of weakness.
Evil is not extant. Evil is the absence of good. Everything that was created is good. 14 billion years ago God created existence. How can that be bad?
Men lusting after and raping little children is evil, and it exists their whole life and is a part of their personality, so extant. Now what I want to know is WHY did god put such an evil thing in this world?
See here? This is the same thinking as the other guy who simply needed to pick up the book and read like three pages and you would see. Look, God did not creat child molesters. He did not sit there and say “and on day 4 I’ll make a kid screw-in Catholic Priest, and on day 5 a hitler”, and so on. Evil was not created with people in the Bible. Evil came to be AFTER they “Adam and Eve” ate the fruit. I’m not a bible scholar, but it’s still pretty clear.
Because they thought it was for good. Not evil, dipshit.People all over the world were celebrating 9/11. Please try again.How many times do I need to explain it to you that God didn't put evil into creation? Everything God created is good. That's why you don't see people celebrating bad things.That's not the point, the is WHY did god put so much evil in this universe? For what purpose? Surely god must have a reason. So stop moving the goalposts.Bingo. How are U?Dim bulb this one is.
Let me ask you this... where did you get the expectation that everything has to be perfect for there to be a creator?
"Everything God created is good" And you know this how?
Nope. God created existence.So god was playing a game he knew he's win and now humans for the rest of eternity are paying for it. See what I'm saying about not making any sense?It's not virtuous if you are forced to be virtuous, Taz.Then why did god put such a fruit in front of them if it didn't want them to eat it?How do you know that god can't go against his nature? How do you know that god didn't created bad things on purpose?And it explains how you are wrong when you claim God is not all powerful if he did not create evil.
God can't go against his nature. He can't oppose himself. It is silly to say that something which makes God stronger is a sign of weakness.
Evil is not extant. Evil is the absence of good. Everything that was created is good. 14 billion years ago God created existence. How can that be bad?
Men lusting after and raping little children is evil, and it exists their whole life and is a part of their personality, so extant. Now what I want to know is WHY did god put such an evil thing in this world?
See here? This is the same thinking as the other guy who simply needed to pick up the book and read like three pages and you would see. Look, God did not creat child molesters. He did not sit there and say “and on day 4 I’ll make a kid screw-in Catholic Priest, and on day 5 a hitler”, and so on. Evil was not created with people in the Bible. Evil came to be AFTER they “Adam and Eve” ate the fruit. I’m not a bible scholar, but it’s still pretty clear.
For the same reason USMB created the flame zone.The simple answer is that God didn't create evil.
Everything God created is good.
Evil is not extant. Evil doesn't exist in and of itself.
Evil is the absence of good, just as cold is the absence of heat, and darkness is the absence of light.
You've made up a sort of fairy godfather who only makes good, whose every action is good, but who doesn't lift a finger to help humanity tackle evil, but that's ok, because god is good. Evil not his fault. God is good. Evil is not his fault...No. You don't understand my view of God.I understand your view of god, it just doesn't make sense to me.That's horseshit. If you were trying to make sense of my understanding of God you wouldn't keep arguing the same old tired straw man which is not my understanding of God.I'm agnostic so I don't know if a god exists or not, and I'm trying to make sense of yours, and I can't because god created the universe and everything in it. Like birth defects and cancer, why are they herein this universe, for what purpose?I answered you. God created existence. What you make of it is up to you.Did god make everything in the universe, yes or no?
Your logic is massively flawed. You are not espousing your beliefs. You don’t believe God created anything. You don’t believe God exists.
So you create a false argument over what you want me to believe and defend. That’s idiotic.
To make matters worse you conflate birth defects with evil. You might as well be blaming God for male pattern baldness.
You aren’t a very good troll.
Ergo your weak attempt at claiming to be agnostic is exactly that... weak.
But putting all that aside it is your firm belief that there is a universal code of common decency that you believe God has violated which is proof that God exists. Otherwise, where would you get this expectation of a universal code of common decency from?
Humans have formulated a common code of decency for a peaceful society. God drowned nearly all of humanity in a flood. So god doesn't have a code of decency, that's why there is evil in this universe. Ya, that makes some sense. What do you think?
You only understand what you believe I must believe.
That's a fabulous way to go through life. What could possibly go wrong with treating others that way?
Liberals trolls always claim to know what perfect strangers know.You've made up a sort of fairy godfather who only makes good, whose every action is good, but who doesn't lift a finger to help humanity tackle evil, but that's ok, because god is good. Evil not his fault. God is good. Evil is not his fault...No. You don't understand my view of God.I understand your view of god, it just doesn't make sense to me.That's horseshit. If you were trying to make sense of my understanding of God you wouldn't keep arguing the same old tired straw man which is not my understanding of God.I'm agnostic so I don't know if a god exists or not, and I'm trying to make sense of yours, and I can't because god created the universe and everything in it. Like birth defects and cancer, why are they herein this universe, for what purpose?I answered you. God created existence. What you make of it is up to you.
Your logic is massively flawed. You are not espousing your beliefs. You don’t believe God created anything. You don’t believe God exists.
So you create a false argument over what you want me to believe and defend. That’s idiotic.
To make matters worse you conflate birth defects with evil. You might as well be blaming God for male pattern baldness.
You aren’t a very good troll.
Ergo your weak attempt at claiming to be agnostic is exactly that... weak.
But putting all that aside it is your firm belief that there is a universal code of common decency that you believe God has violated which is proof that God exists. Otherwise, where would you get this expectation of a universal code of common decency from?
Humans have formulated a common code of decency for a peaceful society. God drowned nearly all of humanity in a flood. So god doesn't have a code of decency, that's why there is evil in this universe. Ya, that makes some sense. What do you think?
You only understand what you believe I must believe.
That's a fabulous way to go through life. What could possibly go wrong with treating others that way?
And you found god in a book, which is the most absurd part about the whole discussion.
No. You are the one who has made up a fairy godfather. You expect God to be godlight.You've made up a sort of fairy godfather who only makes good, whose every action is good, but who doesn't lift a finger to help humanity tackle evil, but that's ok, because god is good. Evil not his fault. God is good. Evil is not his fault...No. You don't understand my view of God.I understand your view of god, it just doesn't make sense to me.That's horseshit. If you were trying to make sense of my understanding of God you wouldn't keep arguing the same old tired straw man which is not my understanding of God.I'm agnostic so I don't know if a god exists or not, and I'm trying to make sense of yours, and I can't because god created the universe and everything in it. Like birth defects and cancer, why are they herein this universe, for what purpose?I answered you. God created existence. What you make of it is up to you.
Your logic is massively flawed. You are not espousing your beliefs. You don’t believe God created anything. You don’t believe God exists.
So you create a false argument over what you want me to believe and defend. That’s idiotic.
To make matters worse you conflate birth defects with evil. You might as well be blaming God for male pattern baldness.
You aren’t a very good troll.
Ergo your weak attempt at claiming to be agnostic is exactly that... weak.
But putting all that aside it is your firm belief that there is a universal code of common decency that you believe God has violated which is proof that God exists. Otherwise, where would you get this expectation of a universal code of common decency from?
Humans have formulated a common code of decency for a peaceful society. God drowned nearly all of humanity in a flood. So god doesn't have a code of decency, that's why there is evil in this universe. Ya, that makes some sense. What do you think?
You only understand what you believe I must believe.
That's a fabulous way to go through life. What could possibly go wrong with treating others that way?
And you found god in a book, which is the most absurd part about the whole discussion.
It's like celebrating Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we knew it was an evil thing to do to civilians, but the Japs weren't having it any other way, and we celebrated our victory. And to this day, documentaries look back on our great achievement with pride. Just like the Nazis who were happy that they were killing so many Jews.Because they thought it was for good. Not evil, dipshit.People all over the world were celebrating 9/11. Please try again.How many times do I need to explain it to you that God didn't put evil into creation? Everything God created is good. That's why you don't see people celebrating bad things.That's not the point, the is WHY did god put so much evil in this universe? For what purpose? Surely god must have a reason. So stop moving the goalposts.Bingo. How are U?
Let me ask you this... where did you get the expectation that everything has to be perfect for there to be a creator?
"Everything God created is good" And you know this how?
They didn't say "yay, for evil."
Can someone please bring me another one? This one is too small.
So there really was an Adam and Eve in a Garden of Eden?Nope. God created existence.So god was playing a game he knew he's win and now humans for the rest of eternity are paying for it. See what I'm saying about not making any sense?It's not virtuous if you are forced to be virtuous, Taz.Then why did god put such a fruit in front of them if it didn't want them to eat it?How do you know that god can't go against his nature? How do you know that god didn't created bad things on purpose?
Men lusting after and raping little children is evil, and it exists their whole life and is a part of their personality, so extant. Now what I want to know is WHY did god put such an evil thing in this world?
See here? This is the same thinking as the other guy who simply needed to pick up the book and read like three pages and you would see. Look, God did not creat child molesters. He did not sit there and say “and on day 4 I’ll make a kid screw-in Catholic Priest, and on day 5 a hitler”, and so on. Evil was not created with people in the Bible. Evil came to be AFTER they “Adam and Eve” ate the fruit. I’m not a bible scholar, but it’s still pretty clear.
What happens after that is up to you.
You are literally proving my point. In every single case they believed they were doing the right thing. They didn't say, hey this is an evil thing. Woo hoo.It's like celebrating Hiroshima and Nagasaki, we knew it was an evil thing to do to civilians, but the Japs weren't having it any other way, and we celebrated our victory. And to this day, documentaries look back on our great achievement with pride. Just like the Nazis who were happy that they were killing so many Jews.Because they thought it was for good. Not evil, dipshit.People all over the world were celebrating 9/11. Please try again.How many times do I need to explain it to you that God didn't put evil into creation? Everything God created is good. That's why you don't see people celebrating bad things.That's not the point, the is WHY did god put so much evil in this universe? For what purpose? Surely god must have a reason. So stop moving the goalposts.Let me ask you this... where did you get the expectation that everything has to be perfect for there to be a creator?
"Everything God created is good" And you know this how?
They didn't say "yay, for evil."
Can someone please bring me another one? This one is too small.
Thanks for not adding anything concrete to this discussion.Liberals trolls always claim to know what perfect strangers know.You've made up a sort of fairy godfather who only makes good, whose every action is good, but who doesn't lift a finger to help humanity tackle evil, but that's ok, because god is good. Evil not his fault. God is good. Evil is not his fault...No. You don't understand my view of God.I understand your view of god, it just doesn't make sense to me.That's horseshit. If you were trying to make sense of my understanding of God you wouldn't keep arguing the same old tired straw man which is not my understanding of God.I'm agnostic so I don't know if a god exists or not, and I'm trying to make sense of yours, and I can't because god created the universe and everything in it. Like birth defects and cancer, why are they herein this universe, for what purpose?
Ergo your weak attempt at claiming to be agnostic is exactly that... weak.
But putting all that aside it is your firm belief that there is a universal code of common decency that you believe God has violated which is proof that God exists. Otherwise, where would you get this expectation of a universal code of common decency from?
Humans have formulated a common code of decency for a peaceful society. God drowned nearly all of humanity in a flood. So god doesn't have a code of decency, that's why there is evil in this universe. Ya, that makes some sense. What do you think?
You only understand what you believe I must believe.
That's a fabulous way to go through life. What could possibly go wrong with treating others that way?
And you found god in a book, which is the most absurd part about the whole discussion.
Do you even allegory?So there really was an Adam and Eve in a Garden of Eden?Nope. God created existence.So god was playing a game he knew he's win and now humans for the rest of eternity are paying for it. See what I'm saying about not making any sense?It's not virtuous if you are forced to be virtuous, Taz.Then why did god put such a fruit in front of them if it didn't want them to eat it?See here? This is the same thinking as the other guy who simply needed to pick up the book and read like three pages and you would see. Look, God did not creat child molesters. He did not sit there and say “and on day 4 I’ll make a kid screw-in Catholic Priest, and on day 5 a hitler”, and so on. Evil was not created with people in the Bible. Evil came to be AFTER they “Adam and Eve” ate the fruit. I’m not a bible scholar, but it’s still pretty clear.
What happens after that is up to you.
