Why do people hate Liberals?

[francoHFW]

The Pub Propaganda Machine goes off and finds the most obcure Dem haters they can find, organizes them for the dupes, and act like that's equivalent to Pub leading a-holes doing the same thing...LOL Pathetic- thanks.

 

[poet]

Liberals on Twitter issue hate, death wishes for Supreme Court justices​

March 26, 2013
By: Joe Newby

On Tuesday, liberal supporters of gay marriage issued a variety of hateful, profane tweets targeting conservative Supreme Court Justices in the event they rule against same-sex marriage, Twitchy reported.

"If Prop 8 and DOMA are upheld by SCOTUS, we need to have some gay rioting in the streets," tweeted "Robin."

One Twitter user sent a profane tweet with two words repeated over and over: "F**k Scalia."

Another threatened to "discriminate against every f*****g straight a*****e against SSM."

A number of the messages called for the deaths of the more conservative members of the Court.

"So... can Scalia die already?" one person asked.

"Now if only Scalia would die so we could replace the idiot," another said in response to a tweet by Seth MacFarlane.

" hope scalia and thomas get heart attacks and die right as theyre abt to dissent on gay marriage (sic)," tweeted "miguel de cervantes."

"So I hate the Supreme Court, and have said many times that I'm going to bake a f*****g celebration cake when Scalia dies/resigns," added "Tiffany Criswell."

...

Liberals on Twitter issue hate, death wishes for Supreme Court justices - National Policy & Issues | Examiner.com

And?

 

[American_Jihad]

Dems get rude on twitter. The GOP lies and gets rude on Fox, Rush, Beck, and the rest of the Pub Propaganda Machine- ie their main stream leaders fer chrissake- and of course their silly dupes.

In late 1915, Warspite was grounded in the River Forth causing some damage to her hull; she had been led by her escorting destroyers down the small ships channel. After repairs, she rejoined the Grand Fleet, this time as part of the newly formed 5th Battle Squadron which had been created for Queen Elizabeth class ships. In early December, Warspite was involved in another incident when, during an exercise, she collided with her sister-ship Barham, which caused considerable damage to Warspite.


WoW, that's just like you...

 

[poet]

Conservatives will be satisfied if we return to the economic standards of the 1890's. And as they and their children and grandchildren head off to work for 2.50 an hour at some sweatshop with no health and safety standards, they will look up to their robber baron bosses and insist that if they work hard enough that will be them someday.

That is not true at all and you know it.
No one wants go back to that type of shit nor does Conservatives want everyone drinking dirty water.
We want some common sense back in our government.
Our three largest entitlement programs really need to be reformed and waste, fraud and abuse needs to be eliminated.

Absolutely. We can start with special interest lobbies, namely those in the insurance, healthcare provider, and drug industries.

 

[poet]

The one thing about this board that most baffles me is the incredible depth of hatred and contempt for liberals.

The amount of comments from people suggesting all liberals are stupid, anti-patriotic, dumb...you name it. One even suggested liberals don't know what paragraphs are.

I don't get it. And I don't see anything the like the contempt expressed by liberals towards conservatives.

Firstly, the term "liberal" could be used to describe about half of the planet. Like "leftist", it's a fairly cliched catch-all adjective that have little real meaning. It's just too general to be much use.

Secondly, I've met extremely intelligent people from right across the political spectrum - and as many idiots. I've talked to brilliant facists, idiotic conservatives, intelligent communists and brain-dead centrists. I don't see a pattern there at all.

And lastly, why hate liberals when many of the most successful and celebrated administrations have been liberal ones? Were the governments if Clinton, Wilson, FDR, JFK and Truman really so much worse than conservative governments of similar eras?

The constant attacks on liberals seems to me (as an outsider) just a sign of incredible arrogance and conceit - and I would consider attacks on conservatives the same way.

If there is a REAL reason, with facts, for hating liberals - let's hear about it.

People hate liberals because they hate LIARS. And that is exactly what liberals are. Sometimes they tell half truths, omit important facts in order to distort the narrative in their favor, or of course just outright lie.

Take the start of your own post for example:

The one thing about this board that most baffles me is the incredible depth of hatred and contempt for liberals.

I guess you're not baffled by any of the thousands of angry, hate filled posts by liberals directed toward us conservatives every day on this forum. Again distortion by omission.

So, thanks for demonstrating why people don't like liberals like you.

I couldn't believe the OP was that ridiculous, I thought it was sarcasm or something.

Liberals are the most narrow minded, mean, hateful political cretins alive. If you can not see the slander, lies and venom that spews from the left it has to be because you are a liberal, and agree with it.

Now the bed wetters might be outnumbered on this forum, and they are pretty much everywhere except san fransicko so they get it more in volume, but I haven't been here a week and I've already had a bed wetter imply that myself and some fellow 2A supporters were sociopathic killers, and would follow hitler.

If that isn't a hateful attack I don't know what is, but I can give it just as well as I can take it, and the libs have earned every bit of my contempt.

And I revel in it. I bask in the putrid "soup' that is your contempt. Indeed I do.

 

[Darkwind]

Conservatives will be satisfied if we return to the economic standards of the 1890's. And as they and their children and grandchildren head off to work for 2.50 an hour at some sweatshop with no health and safety standards, they will look up to their robber baron bosses and insist that if they work hard enough that will be them someday.

This is why people do not like liberals. Not just GOP people or Conservatives, but many on the left as well dislike and find this kind of lie distasteful.

Yet here is a person speaking lies about conservatives. Will you call out your own on blatant lies like these?

Until your request to understand why you are disliked can see this kind of hatred, nothing will ever convince you.

For those of you who cannot follow context, this was not aimed at Dutch. I was using Dutch as the example of hatred foisted upon us all.

 

[American_Jihad]

Liberals on Twitter issue hate, death wishes for Supreme Court justices​

March 26, 2013
By: Joe Newby

On Tuesday, liberal supporters of gay marriage issued a variety of hateful, profane tweets targeting conservative Supreme Court Justices in the event they rule against same-sex marriage, Twitchy reported.

"If Prop 8 and DOMA are upheld by SCOTUS, we need to have some gay rioting in the streets," tweeted "Robin."

One Twitter user sent a profane tweet with two words repeated over and over: "F**k Scalia."

Another threatened to "discriminate against every f*****g straight a*****e against SSM."

A number of the messages called for the deaths of the more conservative members of the Court.

"So... can Scalia die already?" one person asked.

"Now if only Scalia would die so we could replace the idiot," another said in response to a tweet by Seth MacFarlane.

" hope scalia and thomas get heart attacks and die right as theyre abt to dissent on gay marriage (sic)," tweeted "miguel de cervantes."

"So I hate the Supreme Court, and have said many times that I'm going to bake a f*****g celebration cake when Scalia dies/resigns," added "Tiffany Criswell."

...

Liberals on Twitter issue hate, death wishes for Supreme Court justices - National Policy & Issues | Examiner.com

And?

...

The worst tweet posted by Twitchy came from "Michael Daflos," who suggested taking direct action against two of the Justices if they did not support gay marriage.

"Nerve-racking day for all my homos out there. Good luck, and if we lose, let's start a posse and f*****g murder Scalia and Thomas," he wrote.

Profane hate and death wishes from liberals on Twitter is nothing new.

Throughout the 2012 general election, liberals routinely called for the murder of Mitt Romney. They also called for his wife to be killed, and some advocated murdering those who voted for Romney.

Liberals on Twitter have also advocated the murder of Sarah Palin, Governor Scott Walker, Donald Trump and GOP supporters in general. Some also targeted a six-year-old boy after a pro-Romney video went viral.

Last June, liberals on the social media site targeted Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas.

"Way to win hearts and minds," a reader said at Twitchy.

Liberals on Twitter issue hate, death wishes for Supreme Court justices - National Policy & Issues | Examiner.com

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[SuperDave]

As long as that freedom is liberal and not conservative
As long as the innocent are born, but not the unborn innocent fetus.
Liberals are the ones doing harm to our contry. Keeping the poor in poverty and bringing the middle class down by taking taxes from them, to bring up the status of the poor.

Liberals founded this country and have given you the freedoms you enjoy

Feel free to thank them

Actual true liberals yes.
Social Liberals no way. These are the ones I am talking about.

If you are referring to the group that believed in the principles of "Classical Liberalism" you are correct because that system is a combination of the modern belief systems called "Libertarianism" and "Conservatism". It has nothing to do with the modern definitions of Liberalism or Progressivism.

Assuming since you take the time to come here and post you have actually bothered to learn the beliefs of the major political systems both past and present. That being the case you are aware that the Founding Fathers of this country believed that government was a necessary evil that should be kept to the absolute bare minimums in scope and power...that taxes should be as low as possible and they found income tax particularly offensive, here's a quote from Jefferson:

To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his father has acquired too much, in order to spare to others who (or whose fathers) have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, "to guarantee to everyone a free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it."

It's always amazed me that this sentiment of Jefferson's that is present in so much of his writing both personal and professional along with so many other Founding Father's is so widely ignored while his "wall of seperation" quote which he used only once as a part of a sentence, which was part of a very short letter, where he simply re-phrased the first secion of the First Amendment in an attempt to allay the fears of a small church called the Danbury Baptists has somehow surpassed the actual First Amendment to become the defining principle upon which our courts decide matters of religion in our country.

Anyway getting back to the original point, hopefully you know that the political definitions of labels such as Conservative and Liberal are not the same as their definitions in other areas. You don't believe that the Founding Fathers were "Liberals" because they had ideas which differed from the status-quo of the time or that someone who is a Conservative in their political beliefs is not someone who does not like change as someone who is Conservative in their fashion might be.

Basically the philosophy of the people who founded this country was that government power should be limited and individual liberty maximized as much as possible. They believed that a person should have the Right to do pretty much whatever they wanted until doing so interfered with or could very reasonably be expected to interfere with the Rights of another.

The duties assigned in the Constitution along with stepping in at that point where the Rights of two people were at odds were the only situations where the Federal Government was supposed to involve itself in the lives of it's citizens. We've gone so far off track from this that I doubt more than a tiny fraction of the people would even be able to envision what a great nation that would be, because all they'd be able to picture is all the stuff they'd miss out on. But as the 10th Amendment clearly spells out any other government functions beyond those would be the purview of the States and more local governments.

So yes I do thank the Founding Fathers, whether you choose to call them Conservatives, Classical Liberals, the predecessors of Libertarianism or whatever, then I humbly ask their forgiveness for the absolute mess we've made of the fantastic nation they left in our care.

 

[SuperDave]

Conservatives love Liberals

They always manage to userp liberal ideals about 30 years after the fact and then claim it as their own

So you haven't answered the question:

Where do modern liberals derive their philosophies from? (The answer is obviously NOT John Locke, a classical liberal)

Answered throughtout the thread

Mine is ....Truth, Justice and the American Way

No comment on your post but I did find your signature interesting. My guess would be the CEO paid for his 9 cookies, the Conservative who probably works for the CEO paid for his 1 cookie. Then the Liberal gets his enormous, incredibly powerful friend to take 5 of the CEO's cookies and take the Conservatives one cookie. He then keeps 3 for himself, gives 3 to the Liberal. Then the Lib turns to the Conservative and says "I don't understand why you support greedy CEO's. He has more cookies than anybody and you don't have any and it isn't like he made the cookie"

 

[poet]

Conservatives will be satisfied if we return to the economic standards of the 1890's. And as they and their children and grandchildren head off to work for 2.50 an hour at some sweatshop with no health and safety standards, they will look up to their robber baron bosses and insist that if they work hard enough that will be them someday.

This is why people do not like liberals. Not just GOP people or Conservatives, but many on the left as well dislike and find this kind of lie distasteful.

Yet here is a person speaking lies about conservatives. Will you call out your own on blatant lies like these?

Until your request to understand why you are disliked can see this kind of hatred, nothing will ever convince you.

For those of you who cannot follow context, this was not aimed at Dutch. I was using Dutch as the example of hatred foisted upon us all.

blatant lies? where?

 

[editec]

The one thing about this board that most baffles me is the incredible depth of hatred and contempt for liberals.

You're not liberals, you're leftists.

And it's all the forced labor camps, killing fields, mass graves, disappearances, etc. that make people hate you.

200 million peace time civilians butchered, and you're just getting started. That can make you unpopular at some parties....

Got hysteria?

 

[Bfgrn]

The one thing about this board that most baffles me is the incredible depth of hatred and contempt for liberals.

The amount of comments from people suggesting all liberals are stupid, anti-patriotic, dumb...you name it. One even suggested liberals don't know what paragraphs are.

I don't get it. And I don't see anything the like the contempt expressed by liberals towards conservatives.

Firstly, the term "liberal" could be used to describe about half of the planet. Like "leftist", it's a fairly cliched catch-all adjective that have little real meaning. It's just too general to be much use.

Secondly, I've met extremely intelligent people from right across the political spectrum - and as many idiots. I've talked to brilliant facists, idiotic conservatives, intelligent communists and brain-dead centrists. I don't see a pattern there at all.

And lastly, why hate liberals when many of the most successful and celebrated administrations have been liberal ones? Were the governments if Clinton, Wilson, FDR, JFK and Truman really so much worse than conservative governments of similar eras?

The constant attacks on liberals seems to me (as an outsider) just a sign of incredible arrogance and conceit - and I would consider attacks on conservatives the same way.

If there is a REAL reason, with facts, for hating liberals - let's hear about it.

People hate liberals because they hate LIARS. And that is exactly what liberals are. Sometimes they tell half truths, omit important facts in order to distort the narrative in their favor, or of course just outright lie.

Take the start of your own post for example:

The one thing about this board that most baffles me is the incredible depth of hatred and contempt for liberals.

I guess you're not baffled by any of the thousands of angry, hate filled posts by liberals directed toward us conservatives every day on this forum. Again distortion by omission.

So, thanks for demonstrating why people don't like liberals like you.

I couldn't believe the OP was that ridiculous, I thought it was sarcasm or something.

Liberals are the most narrow minded, mean, hateful political cretins alive. If you can not see the slander, lies and venom that spews from the left it has to be because you are a liberal, and agree with it.

Now the bed wetters might be outnumbered on this forum, and they are pretty much everywhere except san fransicko so they get it more in volume, but I haven't been here a week and I've already had a bed wetter imply that myself and some fellow 2A supporters were sociopathic killers, and would follow hitler.

If that isn't a hateful attack I don't know what is, but I can give it just as well as I can take it, and the libs have earned every bit of my contempt.

Of course you would follow Hitler. You volunteered to kill for the state. What makes you think you wouldn't kill for the state if you were born a German in the 1920's?

 

[rightwinger]

As long as that freedom is liberal and not conservative
As long as the innocent are born, but not the unborn innocent fetus.
Liberals are the ones doing harm to our contry. Keeping the poor in poverty and bringing the middle class down by taking taxes from them, to bring up the status of the poor.

Liberals founded this country and have given you the freedoms you enjoy

Feel free to thank them

Fuck that. Our freedoms and liberties are ordained by God. Not by men. And certainly not by government.
We are "given" rights? Hell no. We have them from the day we are born.
Now, a little education. Classical liberalism of the past bears ZERO resemblance to the liberalism of today.
Modern liberalism is socialism. It opposes liberty. It seeks to grow government. It supports central planning. It seeks to equalize outcome, influence behavior and limit speech by punitive taxation.
Liberals abhor the individual. Liberalism herds people into groups the pits those groups against each other.

Anyone familiar with the history of individual rights can tell you that you are wrong

God pretty much looked the other way as personal rights were being abused. He even endorsed slavery

 

[Bfgrn]

The one thing about this board that most baffles me is the incredible depth of hatred and contempt for liberals.

The amount of comments from people suggesting all liberals are stupid, anti-patriotic, dumb...you name it. One even suggested liberals don't know what paragraphs are.

I don't get it. And I don't see anything the like the contempt expressed by liberals towards conservatives.

Firstly, the term "liberal" could be used to describe about half of the planet. Like "leftist", it's a fairly cliched catch-all adjective that have little real meaning. It's just too general to be much use.

Secondly, I've met extremely intelligent people from right across the political spectrum - and as many idiots. I've talked to brilliant facists, idiotic conservatives, intelligent communists and brain-dead centrists. I don't see a pattern there at all.

And lastly, why hate liberals when many of the most successful and celebrated administrations have been liberal ones? Were the governments if Clinton, Wilson, FDR, JFK and Truman really so much worse than conservative governments of similar eras?

The constant attacks on liberals seems to me (as an outsider) just a sign of incredible arrogance and conceit - and I would consider attacks on conservatives the same way.

If there is a REAL reason, with facts, for hating liberals - let's hear about it.

Why do people hate liberals? The answer lies in an understanding of the conservative movement.

How Conservatives Think (Or Fail To Do So)

Conservatives once looked to the past for what it could teach about the present and the future. Early conservatives were traditionalists or libertarians, or a bit of both. Today, however, there are religious conservatives, economic conservatives, social conservatives, cultural conservatives, neoconservatives, traditional conservatives, and a number of other factions.

Within these factions, there is a good amount of inconsistency and variety, but the movement has long been held together through the power of negative thinking. The glue of the movement is in its perceived enemies. Conservatives once found a common concern with respect to their excessive concern about communism (not that liberals and progressive were not concerned as well, but they were neither paranoid nor willing to mount witch hunts). When communism was no longer a threat, the dysfunctional conservative movement rallied around its members' common opposition to anything they perceived as liberal. (This was, in effect, any point of view that differed from their own, whether it was liberal or not.)

 

[poet]

The one thing about this board that most baffles me is the incredible depth of hatred and contempt for liberals.

The amount of comments from people suggesting all liberals are stupid, anti-patriotic, dumb...you name it. One even suggested liberals don't know what paragraphs are.

I don't get it. And I don't see anything the like the contempt expressed by liberals towards conservatives.

Firstly, the term "liberal" could be used to describe about half of the planet. Like "leftist", it's a fairly cliched catch-all adjective that have little real meaning. It's just too general to be much use.

Secondly, I've met extremely intelligent people from right across the political spectrum - and as many idiots. I've talked to brilliant facists, idiotic conservatives, intelligent communists and brain-dead centrists. I don't see a pattern there at all.

And lastly, why hate liberals when many of the most successful and celebrated administrations have been liberal ones? Were the governments if Clinton, Wilson, FDR, JFK and Truman really so much worse than conservative governments of similar eras?

The constant attacks on liberals seems to me (as an outsider) just a sign of incredible arrogance and conceit - and I would consider attacks on conservatives the same way.

If there is a REAL reason, with facts, for hating liberals - let's hear about it.

Why do people hate liberals? The answer lies in an understanding of the conservative movement.

How Conservatives Think (Or Fail To Do So)

Conservatives once looked to the past for what it could teach about the present and the future. Early conservatives were traditionalists or libertarians, or a bit of both. Today, however, there are religious conservatives, economic conservatives, social conservatives, cultural conservatives, neoconservatives, traditional conservatives, and a number of other factions.

Within these factions, there is a good amount of inconsistency and variety, but the movement has long been held together through the power of negative thinking. The glue of the movement is in its perceived enemies. Conservatives once found a common concern with respect to their excessive concern about communism (not that liberals and progressive were not concerned as well, but they were neither paranoid nor willing to mount witch hunts). When communism was no longer a threat, the dysfunctional conservative movement rallied around its members' common opposition to anything they perceived as liberal. (This was, in effect, any point of view that differed from their own, whether it was liberal or not.)

This explains much:
Conservatism: The Politics Of Ignorance and Self-Interest

 

[Bfgrn]

The one thing about this board that most baffles me is the incredible depth of hatred and contempt for liberals.

The amount of comments from people suggesting all liberals are stupid, anti-patriotic, dumb...you name it. One even suggested liberals don't know what paragraphs are.

I don't get it. And I don't see anything the like the contempt expressed by liberals towards conservatives.

Firstly, the term "liberal" could be used to describe about half of the planet. Like "leftist", it's a fairly cliched catch-all adjective that have little real meaning. It's just too general to be much use.

Secondly, I've met extremely intelligent people from right across the political spectrum - and as many idiots. I've talked to brilliant facists, idiotic conservatives, intelligent communists and brain-dead centrists. I don't see a pattern there at all.

And lastly, why hate liberals when many of the most successful and celebrated administrations have been liberal ones? Were the governments if Clinton, Wilson, FDR, JFK and Truman really so much worse than conservative governments of similar eras?

The constant attacks on liberals seems to me (as an outsider) just a sign of incredible arrogance and conceit - and I would consider attacks on conservatives the same way.

If there is a REAL reason, with facts, for hating liberals - let's hear about it.

Why do people hate liberals? The answer lies in an understanding of the conservative movement.

How Conservatives Think (Or Fail To Do So)

Conservatives once looked to the past for what it could teach about the present and the future. Early conservatives were traditionalists or libertarians, or a bit of both. Today, however, there are religious conservatives, economic conservatives, social conservatives, cultural conservatives, neoconservatives, traditional conservatives, and a number of other factions.

Within these factions, there is a good amount of inconsistency and variety, but the movement has long been held together through the power of negative thinking. The glue of the movement is in its perceived enemies. Conservatives once found a common concern with respect to their excessive concern about communism (not that liberals and progressive were not concerned as well, but they were neither paranoid nor willing to mount witch hunts). When communism was no longer a threat, the dysfunctional conservative movement rallied around its members' common opposition to anything they perceived as liberal. (This was, in effect, any point of view that differed from their own, whether it was liberal or not.)

This explains much:
Conservatism: The Politics Of Ignorance and Self-Interest

The first article I posted by John Dean (Richard Nixon's former White House Counsel) is 1 of a 3 part series. He has written numerous articles about how authoritarians have taken control of the Republican Party. Plus his book 'Conservatives Without Conscience' is a must read.

Good article Poet... here is one in return. It explains a lot. (note the chapter under the heading * The Destruction of Language)

What Is Conservatism and What Is Wrong with It?


"Republicans approve of the American farmer, but they are willing to help him go broke. They stand four-square for the American home--but not for housing. They are strong for labor--but they are stronger for restricting labor's rights. They favor minimum wage--the smaller the minimum wage the better. They endorse educational opportunity for all--but they won't spend money for teachers or for schools. They approve of social security benefits-so much so that they took them away from almost a million people. They think modern medical care and hospitals are fine--for people who can afford them. They believe in international trade--so much so that they crippled our reciprocal trade program, and killed our International Wheat Agreement. They favor the admission of displaced persons--but only within shameful racial and religious limitations.They consider electrical power a great blessing--but only when the private power companies get their rake-off. They say TVA is wonderful--but we ought never to try it again. They condemn "cruelly high prices"--but fight to the death every effort to bring them down. They think American standard of living is a fine thing--so long as it doesn't spread to all the people. And they admire of Government of the United States so much that they would like to buy it."
President Harry S. Truman

 

[numan]

'

I see you're from Finland.

What's your definition of Liberal? Chances are we're not talking about the same ideologies.

Words of Wisdom. · ·

How many arguments could have been reduced to a few words if the disputants had dared to define their terms.
---Aristotle
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[numan]

'

Liberals are hilarious....
They will exhaust themselves fighting problems to your last dollar. The only thing they like to work hard at is finding new ways to take from people who actually work.

Was it not Neo-Conservative icon Dick Cheney who declared that "deficits don't matter"?

Whether they call themselves "liberal" or "conservative", the Talking Heads are out to rob you blind.

Your rulers want to goad you into fighting each other, and then pick your pockets while you are too occupied to see what is really happening.
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[kaz]

Was it not Neo-Conservative icon Dick Cheney who declared that "deficits don't matter"?

Tip. You might want to Google what "Neoconservative" means because you don't seem to know. BTW, that is why fiscal conservatives don't care for either the spending of the Bush or Obama administrations.

 

[bodecea]

Well for starters, they call republicans racist if they disagree with obama. That alone makes them hatable. Theres many reasons to hate liberals though.

I am a liberal and I don't call someone a racist for simply disagreeing with the President.