Why does everyone love Reagan so much?

[evince]

you crashed the economy...... did you forget that one?

 

[toxicmedia]

Wow, on another note...this Chamberlin analogy is quite flawed, and entirely unoriginal.

Especially when the closest thing the GOP has to Churchill is Donald Trump.

Furthermore the closest thing we have to Hitler is not even the armed forces of a country that poses an existential threat...it's a bunch of criminals, that have few allies, and the operatives they have are simply unbalanced criminals

 

[toxicmedia]

Leftist think...

- Ronnie bad for blowing up the national debt.

- Barry good for blowing up the national debt.

You figure it out.

I'm a leftist, and I don't know any leftists who think that. Not saying they don't exist, but....

Reagan blew up the debt in a time when that stimulated the economy, so all that deficit spending on a shiny new high tech military spurred the economy.

Obama is blowing up the debt with the same intent, as well as just trying to keep the wheels turning with the economy. But the average American worker is the least cost effective worker in the world. Foreign economic competition is infinitely more potent, and expecting government spending to stimulate an exhausted economy just won't work like it did for Reagan

 

[evince]

debt is A tool

ask any entreprenuer

 

[Redfish]

debt is A tool

ask any entreprenuer

Yes, but not when you have to borrow 40% of what you spend and are only paying the interest on the existing debt. Pretty soon the interest on the debt will be the biggest item in the federal budget. That is not a tool, its insane fiscal policy.

 

[gipper]

Leftist think...

- Ronnie bad for blowing up the national debt.

- Barry good for blowing up the national debt.

You figure it out.

I'm a leftist, and I don't know any leftists who think that. Not saying they don't exist, but....

Reagan blew up the debt in a time when that stimulated the economy, so all that deficit spending on a shiny new high tech military spurred the economy.

Obama is blowing up the debt with the same intent, as well as just trying to keep the wheels turning with the economy. But the average American worker is the least cost effective worker in the world. Foreign economic competition is infinitely more potent, and expecting government spending to stimulate an exhausted economy just won't work like it did for Reagan

I can tell you there are leftists on this forum who believe it. They think BO's massive deficit spending was necessary to keep the economy going. BO spent exponentially more than Reagan, but Reagan's economy boomed for over two decades...we are still waiting for BO's economy to boom. Yet many libs condemn Reagan for deficit spending while commending BO. Makes no sense.

Could you reference a link showing proof that American workers are the least cost effective? This is news to me.

 

[Redfish]

Reagan loved the USA. He was a good person. He was also human and made mistakes. His goal was always to put the USA first in all things. Unlike the present occupant of the whitehouse.

 

[Camp]

As can be seen in this thread, everyone doesn't love Reagan, liked him or have fond memories of him.

TRUE !!

BUT.., he was the best president in my lifetime, and i do remember that commie sympathizer FDR.

and i will not mention how he goaded the Japs into WWII

Reagan's legacy diminishes each year as his subjective supporters fade away and are replaced with objective people who were small children or not yet born during his terms as President. If a President is judged by his legacy, few compare to FDR. Only Washington and Lincoln surpass him, occasionally Jefferson. Policies of FDR remain important and positive aspects of American life 80 years after the New Deal began. It is hard for a 65 year old American to view FDR in the negative when they get their monthly Social Security check.
Reagan's number one legacy topic is his so called defeat of the Soviet Union and victory in the Cold War. Unfortunately it hasn't and doesn't stand up to the test of time. The Soviet's dissolved several years after Reagan left office and credit is recognized and shared with Pope John Paul ll, Margaret Thatcher, Francois Mitterand, Mikail Gorbachev and the rioters, demonstrators, protesters, etc. of eastern European countries. In 2015 the USA is still in a Cold War with the remnants of what the Reagan supporters claimed he defeated. The monster just went into hibernation and changed it's name.
His economic policies are hotly debated and viewed negatively by enough students and schools of thought related to economics to make his economic policies a neutralized non issue.
Failure of Reagan to control corruption of his administration led to him overseeing the most corrupt administration in history when the criteria used is the number of indictments, convictions and pardons required by the President who followed the mess he left.
Each year more and more historians have studied his failure to respond to terrorist attacks and his willingness to work with and create groups that became primary founders of some of the best known terrorist organizations of today that seeded and blossomed under his policies.
The list of blunders made by Reagan goes on and on. It is hard to imagine him rising in popularity as more and more of these blunders become recognized as the causes of so many problems of today and into the future.

 

[Redfish]

As can be seen in this thread, everyone doesn't love Reagan, liked him or have fond memories of him.

TRUE !!

BUT.., he was the best president in my lifetime, and i do remember that commie sympathizer FDR.

and i will not mention how he goaded the Japs into WWII

Reagan's legacy diminishes each year as his subjective supporters fade away and are replaced with objective people who were small children or not yet born during his terms as President. If a President is judged by his legacy, few compare to FDR. Only Washington and Lincoln surpass him, occasionally Jefferson. Policies of FDR remain important and positive aspects of American life 80 years after the New Deal began. It is hard for a 65 year old American to view FDR in the negative when they get their monthly Social Security check.
Reagan's number one legacy topic is his so called defeat of the Soviet Union and victory in the Cold War. Unfortunately it hasn't and doesn't stand up to the test of time. The Soviet's dissolved several years after Reagan left office and credit is recognized and shared with Pope John Paul ll, Margaret Thatcher, Francois Mitterand, Mikail Gorbachev and the rioters, demonstrators, protesters, etc. of eastern European countries. In 2015 the USA is still in a Cold War with the remnants of what the Reagan supporters claimed he defeated. The monster just went into hibernation and changed it's name.
His economic policies are hotly debated and viewed negatively by enough students and schools of thought related to economics to make his economic policies a neutralized non issue.
Failure of Reagan to control corruption of his administration led to him overseeing the most corrupt administration in history when the criteria used is the number of indictments, convictions and pardons required by the President who followed the mess he left.
Each year more and more historians have studied his failure to respond to terrorist attacks and his willingness to work with and create groups that became primary founders of some of the best known terrorist organizations of today that seeded and blossomed under his policies.
The list of blunders made by Reagan goes on and on. It is hard to imagine him rising in popularity as more and more of these blunders become recognized as the causes of so many problems of today and into the future.

That is just a crock of shit. FDR? come on. FDR started the liberal BS that has put this country in debt, destroyed the american family, destroyed our manufacturing base, and made us soft and weak.

FDR was a terrible president. He had information that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked and did nothing to stop it.

 

[longknife]

It is always amazing to watch the Libtard trolls come out of the woodwork with their lies, diversions, and generally scripted trash.

 

[toxicmedia]

Leftist think...

- Ronnie bad for blowing up the national debt.

- Barry good for blowing up the national debt.

You figure it out.

I'm a leftist, and I don't know any leftists who think that. Not saying they don't exist, but....

Reagan blew up the debt in a time when that stimulated the economy, so all that deficit spending on a shiny new high tech military spurred the economy.

Obama is blowing up the debt with the same intent, as well as just trying to keep the wheels turning with the economy. But the average American worker is the least cost effective worker in the world. Foreign economic competition is infinitely more potent, and expecting government spending to stimulate an exhausted economy just won't work like it did for Reagan

I can tell you there are leftists on this forum who believe it. They think BO's massive deficit spending was necessary to keep the economy going. BO spent exponentially more than Reagan, but Reagan's economy boomed for over two decades...we are still waiting for BO's economy to boom. Yet many libs condemn Reagan for deficit spending while commending BO. Makes no sense.

Could you reference a link showing proof that American workers are the least cost effective? This is news to me.

In order to avoid dissimilar starting points, I think we would need to agree on comparisons between the economy Carter left Reagan, and the economy Bush left Obama.

Furthermore it sounds like you're crediting the prosperity during the Clinton administration to Reagan...so we have to agree on who gets the credit, and the blame, for overlapping trends.

Moreover, most economists that provide analyses outside of political context, will tell you a President only has a maximum effect of 10% + or - on the economy, depending on how smart, stupid, lucky, or unlucky, they are.

A lot to unwind right, and you don't seem like someone interested in a pissing contest, like myself.

As far as providing a link for my opinion that the average American worker is the least cost effective worker in the world...isn't that somewhat self evident based on the increase in outsourcing of American jobs?

 

[Camp]

As can be seen in this thread, everyone doesn't love Reagan, liked him or have fond memories of him.

TRUE !!

BUT.., he was the best president in my lifetime, and i do remember that commie sympathizer FDR.

and i will not mention how he goaded the Japs into WWII

Reagan's legacy diminishes each year as his subjective supporters fade away and are replaced with objective people who were small children or not yet born during his terms as President. If a President is judged by his legacy, few compare to FDR. Only Washington and Lincoln surpass him, occasionally Jefferson. Policies of FDR remain important and positive aspects of American life 80 years after the New Deal began. It is hard for a 65 year old American to view FDR in the negative when they get their monthly Social Security check.
Reagan's number one legacy topic is his so called defeat of the Soviet Union and victory in the Cold War. Unfortunately it hasn't and doesn't stand up to the test of time. The Soviet's dissolved several years after Reagan left office and credit is recognized and shared with Pope John Paul ll, Margaret Thatcher, Francois Mitterand, Mikail Gorbachev and the rioters, demonstrators, protesters, etc. of eastern European countries. In 2015 the USA is still in a Cold War with the remnants of what the Reagan supporters claimed he defeated. The monster just went into hibernation and changed it's name.
His economic policies are hotly debated and viewed negatively by enough students and schools of thought related to economics to make his economic policies a neutralized non issue.
Failure of Reagan to control corruption of his administration led to him overseeing the most corrupt administration in history when the criteria used is the number of indictments, convictions and pardons required by the President who followed the mess he left.
Each year more and more historians have studied his failure to respond to terrorist attacks and his willingness to work with and create groups that became primary founders of some of the best known terrorist organizations of today that seeded and blossomed under his policies.
The list of blunders made by Reagan goes on and on. It is hard to imagine him rising in popularity as more and more of these blunders become recognized as the causes of so many problems of today and into the future.

That is just a crock of shit. FDR? come on. FDR started the liberal BS that has put this country in debt, destroyed the american family, destroyed our manufacturing base, and made us soft and weak.

FDR was a terrible president. He had information that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked and did nothing to stop it.

I stated facts and you are stating opinions. There is no opinion in the fact that Roosevelt in consistently rated as one of America's top three greatest President's or that accomplishments of his administration has positive affects on the US population. Much of the stuff he built in the 1930's is still being used today, 80 years later. My towns current Post Office was a works project of 1937. People are still driving into Manhattan via the Lincoln Tunnel and millions of Americans still get electricity from the dams he built. Now that's a real legacy. That stuff you blame on a President from 75 or 80 years ago is far fetched delusion based opinion. Go take a ride on the Blue Ridge Parkway on a Harley. When your done come back and talk about legacy of a President.

 

[my2¢]

I think Reagan's legacy is built upon restoring esteem to the military which had languished since Vietnam and further damaged by the failed Iranian hostage rescue mission.

 

[toxicmedia]

It is always amazing to watch the Libtard trolls come out of the woodwork with their lies, diversions, and generally scripted trash.

Wow, look at the post right before yours.

#69

Doesn't that sound like a garden variety talking point, a diversion? Not so much on thoughtful? and Trollish

 

[regent]

As can be seen in this thread, everyone doesn't love Reagan, liked him or have fond memories of him.

TRUE !!

BUT.., he was the best president in my lifetime, and i do remember that commie sympathizer FDR.

and i will not mention how he goaded the Japs into WWII

Reagan's best act was to vote for FDR, as did most of the nation, and Reagan even emulated FDR in behavior and speeches. Good actor with an impish little smile.

 

[toxicmedia]

As can be seen in this thread, everyone doesn't love Reagan, liked him or have fond memories of him.

TRUE !!

BUT.., he was the best president in my lifetime, and i do remember that commie sympathizer FDR.

and i will not mention how he goaded the Japs into WWII

Reagan's legacy diminishes each year as his subjective supporters fade away and are replaced with objective people who were small children or not yet born during his terms as President. If a President is judged by his legacy, few compare to FDR. Only Washington and Lincoln surpass him, occasionally Jefferson. Policies of FDR remain important and positive aspects of American life 80 years after the New Deal began. It is hard for a 65 year old American to view FDR in the negative when they get their monthly Social Security check.
Reagan's number one legacy topic is his so called defeat of the Soviet Union and victory in the Cold War. Unfortunately it hasn't and doesn't stand up to the test of time. The Soviet's dissolved several years after Reagan left office and credit is recognized and shared with Pope John Paul ll, Margaret Thatcher, Francois Mitterand, Mikail Gorbachev and the rioters, demonstrators, protesters, etc. of eastern European countries. In 2015 the USA is still in a Cold War with the remnants of what the Reagan supporters claimed he defeated. The monster just went into hibernation and changed it's name.
His economic policies are hotly debated and viewed negatively by enough students and schools of thought related to economics to make his economic policies a neutralized non issue.
Failure of Reagan to control corruption of his administration led to him overseeing the most corrupt administration in history when the criteria used is the number of indictments, convictions and pardons required by the President who followed the mess he left.
Each year more and more historians have studied his failure to respond to terrorist attacks and his willingness to work with and create groups that became primary founders of some of the best known terrorist organizations of today that seeded and blossomed under his policies.
The list of blunders made by Reagan goes on and on. It is hard to imagine him rising in popularity as more and more of these blunders become recognized as the causes of so many problems of today and into the future.

That is just a crock of shit. FDR? come on. FDR started the liberal BS that has put this country in debt, destroyed the american family, destroyed our manufacturing base, and made us soft and weak.

FDR was a terrible president. He had information that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked and did nothing to stop it.

I stated facts and you are stating opinions. There is no opinion in the fact that Roosevelt in consistently rated as one of America's top three greatest President's or that accomplishments of his administration has positive affects on the US population. Much of the stuff he built in the 1930's is still being used today, 80 years later. My towns current Post Office was a works project of 1937. People are still driving into Manhattan via the Lincoln Tunnel and millions of Americans still get electricity from the dams he built. Now that's a real legacy. That stuff you blame on a President from 75 or 80 years ago is far fetched delusion based opinion. Go take a ride on the Blue Ridge Parkway on a Harley. When your done come back and talk about legacy of a President.

Hating FDR and loving Reagan is just a symptom of buying into tabloid news.

Both Presidential administrations ended in extraordinary prosperity.

Yet FDR is horrible, and Reagan is awesome.

I'm scratching my head as to why anyone can't see a huge failure of critical reasoning if they think that

 

[Camp]

As can be seen in this thread, everyone doesn't love Reagan, liked him or have fond memories of him.

TRUE !!

BUT.., he was the best president in my lifetime, and i do remember that commie sympathizer FDR.

and i will not mention how he goaded the Japs into WWII

Reagan's legacy diminishes each year as his subjective supporters fade away and are replaced with objective people who were small children or not yet born during his terms as President. If a President is judged by his legacy, few compare to FDR. Only Washington and Lincoln surpass him, occasionally Jefferson. Policies of FDR remain important and positive aspects of American life 80 years after the New Deal began. It is hard for a 65 year old American to view FDR in the negative when they get their monthly Social Security check.
Reagan's number one legacy topic is his so called defeat of the Soviet Union and victory in the Cold War. Unfortunately it hasn't and doesn't stand up to the test of time. The Soviet's dissolved several years after Reagan left office and credit is recognized and shared with Pope John Paul ll, Margaret Thatcher, Francois Mitterand, Mikail Gorbachev and the rioters, demonstrators, protesters, etc. of eastern European countries. In 2015 the USA is still in a Cold War with the remnants of what the Reagan supporters claimed he defeated. The monster just went into hibernation and changed it's name.
His economic policies are hotly debated and viewed negatively by enough students and schools of thought related to economics to make his economic policies a neutralized non issue.
Failure of Reagan to control corruption of his administration led to him overseeing the most corrupt administration in history when the criteria used is the number of indictments, convictions and pardons required by the President who followed the mess he left.
Each year more and more historians have studied his failure to respond to terrorist attacks and his willingness to work with and create groups that became primary founders of some of the best known terrorist organizations of today that seeded and blossomed under his policies.
The list of blunders made by Reagan goes on and on. It is hard to imagine him rising in popularity as more and more of these blunders become recognized as the causes of so many problems of today and into the future.

That is just a crock of shit. FDR? come on. FDR started the liberal BS that has put this country in debt, destroyed the american family, destroyed our manufacturing base, and made us soft and weak.

FDR was a terrible president. He had information that Pearl Harbor was going to be attacked and did nothing to stop it.

Ya, he made us weak and destroyed our manufacturing base by building the greatest military in history and defeating enemies on two fronts while he created the greatest manufacturing country in history until Reagan began tearing apart factories and shipping them overseas.

 

[JoeB131]

Clinton wagged his finger in you and our collective faces and lied his ass off. Bad but not impeachable. Then he went an lied and lied under oath, a high crime by any measure. He was denying a woman her Constitutional rights. When someone breaks the law, as did clinton without doubt, there should be an investigation and that is what happened. It was the right thing to do.

He wagged his finger in the face of people who had no business asking him the question to start with.

Sorry, we never lock people up for perjury. If we did, the jails would be full. So no real argument there.

Paula Jones could have settled her lawsuit at any time before it ever got to court and was thrown out for being without merit.

Sorry, we don't have an investigation whenever someone breaks the law. If we did, we'd live in a police state. This was not something we should have spent 70 million dollars investigating, about whether Clinton got a blow job from a woman because a diffrent woman was suing him over something without merit.

 

[gipper]

Leftist think...

- Ronnie bad for blowing up the national debt.

- Barry good for blowing up the national debt.

You figure it out.

I'm a leftist, and I don't know any leftists who think that. Not saying they don't exist, but....

Reagan blew up the debt in a time when that stimulated the economy, so all that deficit spending on a shiny new high tech military spurred the economy.

Obama is blowing up the debt with the same intent, as well as just trying to keep the wheels turning with the economy. But the average American worker is the least cost effective worker in the world. Foreign economic competition is infinitely more potent, and expecting government spending to stimulate an exhausted economy just won't work like it did for Reagan

I can tell you there are leftists on this forum who believe it. They think BO's massive deficit spending was necessary to keep the economy going. BO spent exponentially more than Reagan, but Reagan's economy boomed for over two decades...we are still waiting for BO's economy to boom. Yet many libs condemn Reagan for deficit spending while commending BO. Makes no sense.

Could you reference a link showing proof that American workers are the least cost effective? This is news to me.

In order to avoid dissimilar starting points, I think we would need to agree on comparisons between the economy Carter left Reagan, and the economy Bush left Obama.

Furthermore it sounds like you're crediting the prosperity during the Clinton administration to Reagan...so we have to agree on who gets the credit, and the blame, for overlapping trends.

Moreover, most economists that provide analyses outside of political context, will tell you a President only has a maximum effect of 10% + or - on the economy, depending on how smart, stupid, lucky, or unlucky, they are.

A lot to unwind right, and you don't seem like someone interested in a pissing contest, like myself.

As far as providing a link for my opinion that the average American worker is the least cost effective worker in the world...isn't that somewhat self evident based on the increase in outsourcing of American jobs?

There is considerable disagreement about the state of the economy when Reagan and BO took charge. Many can cite stats showing Reagan had it much worse, while others claim BO did. Reagan did not bail out the .1%. BO did.

I am of the opinion that presidents get too much credit or blame for the economy. I think the American economy is an engine that just needs very slight monitoring for it to hum. Reagan got the government out of the way and it boomed. BO did the opposite and we can see the results with nearly 100 million working age Americans not working.

Regarding cost effectiveness of the American worker, the off shoring of jobs is not a good indicator. It may be for certain industries that need lots of unskilled labor, but not so for those needing skilled labor. Much of the American work force is working more productively and for more hours than in years past.

 

[Freewill]

Clinton wagged his finger in you and our collective faces and lied his ass off. Bad but not impeachable. Then he went an lied and lied under oath, a high crime by any measure. He was denying a woman her Constitutional rights. When someone breaks the law, as did clinton without doubt, there should be an investigation and that is what happened. It was the right thing to do.

He wagged his finger in the face of people who had no business asking him the question to start with.

Sorry, we never lock people up for perjury. If we did, the jails would be full. So no real argument there.

Paula Jones could have settled her lawsuit at any time before it ever got to court and was thrown out for being without merit.

Sorry, we don't have an investigation whenever someone breaks the law. If we did, we'd live in a police state. This was not something we should have spent 70 million dollars investigating, about whether Clinton got a blow job from a woman because a diffrent woman was suing him over something without merit.

BS, he was asked that question in a court of law, what is so hard for you to understand? If he had not then it would be nothing but an ill advised BJ. Yes, it would have made all the news but would not be impeachable.

Paula Jones did receive a large settlement from Clinton. Clinton was also censored by the Bar and lost his license for 5 years, fitting punishment. Clinton was never going to jail over his lying but do we really want a president that goes out of his way to lie to YOU? A president that screwed the middle class like no other until Obama?