Why does the Left hate Jews?

[Mindful]

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

That lame duck argument has been done to death.

Criticism is not the same as demonisation.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

More crap.

Same old, same old.

 

[Syriusly]

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

That lame duck argument has been done to death.

Criticism is not the same as demonisation.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

More crap.

Same old, same old.

That is what your OP- and this thread is. More and the same old partisan crap.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

 

[Mindful]

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

That lame duck argument has been done to death.

Criticism is not the same as demonisation.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

More crap.

Same old, same old.

That is what your OP- and this thread is. More and the same old partisan crap.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

Your type doesn't criticise. It demonises.

 

[Phoenall]

The background to all of this is the current political situation in the UK.

The ruling Tory party is in a mess. They are split over Europe. Cameron is a lame duck PM and his cabinet colleagues are ripping themselves up in a jostle for the throne.
The Chancellor just had a big part of his budget ripped up. The health service is in revolt with Doctors on strike for the first time in a generation.
The plan to privatise all our schools is falling apart with even their own MPs speaking against it.
Cheap Chinese steel is killing our own industry but the Tories are so far in thrall to Beijing that they opposed short term protection from the EU to our own industry.
The Hillsborough inquest has just returned a damning verdict on the tories pin up Thatcher and her campaign of lies.
Its an absolute mess.

Obviously there needs to be a story for our right wing media to focus on.

Ken Livingstone stands by Hitler comments - BBC News

And there you go. There is no anti semitism in the Labour Party. Im not a member and never have been but it is absurd to suggest that there is a problem. The "problem" is Jeremy Corbyn who terrifies those on the right as well as the right wing of his own party. He has to be stopped at all costs.

And if you bothered to look at the rules you would see that we cant bail out the privately owned Steel Works under EU laws. We cant even impose increased duty on any steel from other countries. All this because the neo Marxists sold the family silver in return for a handful of votes. Under Labour we could have modernised the Steel Industry and not have any problems now with imported cheap rubbish. Back then it was allowed to give grants and aid for modernisation if it meant the company cleaned up its act and reduced its carbon footprint. But they were more interested in funding the 100's of 1,000's of muslim migrants flooding the country welfare payments.

You mention Red Ken who supports Jew hatred, Nazism, anti Semitism and another holocaust, and is not scared to spout his filth in public. And far too many of the neo Marxists are just like him, making the labour party just another version of the National Socialist workers party of Germany. I wonder if they have plans for the New Auschwitz in Cardiff or Caernarvon

 

[Tommy Tainant]

The background to all of this is the current political situation in the UK.

The ruling Tory party is in a mess. They are split over Europe. Cameron is a lame duck PM and his cabinet colleagues are ripping themselves up in a jostle for the throne.
The Chancellor just had a big part of his budget ripped up. The health service is in revolt with Doctors on strike for the first time in a generation.
The plan to privatise all our schools is falling apart with even their own MPs speaking against it.
Cheap Chinese steel is killing our own industry but the Tories are so far in thrall to Beijing that they opposed short term protection from the EU to our own industry.
The Hillsborough inquest has just returned a damning verdict on the tories pin up Thatcher and her campaign of lies.
Its an absolute mess.

Obviously there needs to be a story for our right wing media to focus on.

Ken Livingstone stands by Hitler comments - BBC News

And there you go. There is no anti semitism in the Labour Party. Im not a member and never have been but it is absurd to suggest that there is a problem. The "problem" is Jeremy Corbyn who terrifies those on the right as well as the right wing of his own party. He has to be stopped at all costs.

And if you bothered to look at the rules you would see that we cant bail out the privately owned Steel Works under EU laws. We cant even impose increased duty on any steel from other countries. All this because the neo Marxists sold the family silver in return for a handful of votes. Under Labour we could have modernised the Steel Industry and not have any problems now with imported cheap rubbish. Back then it was allowed to give grants and aid for modernisation if it meant the company cleaned up its act and reduced its carbon footprint. But they were more interested in funding the 100's of 1,000's of muslim migrants flooding the country welfare payments.

You mention Red Ken who supports Jew hatred, Nazism, anti Semitism and another holocaust, and is not scared to spout his filth in public. And far too many of the neo Marxists are just like him, making the labour party just another version of the National Socialist workers party of Germany. I wonder if they have plans for the New Auschwitz in Cardiff or Caernarvon

Its Caernarfon you colonialist wanker.
Did your mates in the illuminati tell you all this shite ?

 

[Mindful]

The background to all of this is the current political situation in the UK.

The ruling Tory party is in a mess. They are split over Europe. Cameron is a lame duck PM and his cabinet colleagues are ripping themselves up in a jostle for the throne.
The Chancellor just had a big part of his budget ripped up. The health service is in revolt with Doctors on strike for the first time in a generation.
The plan to privatise all our schools is falling apart with even their own MPs speaking against it.
Cheap Chinese steel is killing our own industry but the Tories are so far in thrall to Beijing that they opposed short term protection from the EU to our own industry.
The Hillsborough inquest has just returned a damning verdict on the tories pin up Thatcher and her campaign of lies.
Its an absolute mess.

Obviously there needs to be a story for our right wing media to focus on.

Ken Livingstone stands by Hitler comments - BBC News

And there you go. There is no anti semitism in the Labour Party. Im not a member and never have been but it is absurd to suggest that there is a problem. The "problem" is Jeremy Corbyn who terrifies those on the right as well as the right wing of his own party. He has to be stopped at all costs.

And if you bothered to look at the rules you would see that we cant bail out the privately owned Steel Works under EU laws. We cant even impose increased duty on any steel from other countries. All this because the neo Marxists sold the family silver in return for a handful of votes. Under Labour we could have modernised the Steel Industry and not have any problems now with imported cheap rubbish. Back then it was allowed to give grants and aid for modernisation if it meant the company cleaned up its act and reduced its carbon footprint. But they were more interested in funding the 100's of 1,000's of muslim migrants flooding the country welfare payments.

You mention Red Ken who supports Jew hatred, Nazism, anti Semitism and another holocaust, and is not scared to spout his filth in public. And far too many of the neo Marxists are just like him, making the labour party just another version of the National Socialist workers party of Germany. I wonder if they have plans for the New Auschwitz in Cardiff or Caernarvon

Two more have been suspended.

Seems the Labour Party is riddled with that odious disease.

 

[Phoenall]

The background to all of this is the current political situation in the UK.

The ruling Tory party is in a mess. They are split over Europe. Cameron is a lame duck PM and his cabinet colleagues are ripping themselves up in a jostle for the throne.
The Chancellor just had a big part of his budget ripped up. The health service is in revolt with Doctors on strike for the first time in a generation.
The plan to privatise all our schools is falling apart with even their own MPs speaking against it.
Cheap Chinese steel is killing our own industry but the Tories are so far in thrall to Beijing that they opposed short term protection from the EU to our own industry.
The Hillsborough inquest has just returned a damning verdict on the tories pin up Thatcher and her campaign of lies.
Its an absolute mess.

Obviously there needs to be a story for our right wing media to focus on.

Ken Livingstone stands by Hitler comments - BBC News

And there you go. There is no anti semitism in the Labour Party. Im not a member and never have been but it is absurd to suggest that there is a problem. The "problem" is Jeremy Corbyn who terrifies those on the right as well as the right wing of his own party. He has to be stopped at all costs.

The background to all of this is the current political situation in the UK.

The ruling Tory party is in a mess. They are split over Europe. Cameron is a lame duck PM and his cabinet colleagues are ripping themselves up in a jostle for the throne.
The Chancellor just had a big part of his budget ripped up. The health service is in revolt with Doctors on strike for the first time in a generation.
The plan to privatise all our schools is falling apart with even their own MPs speaking against it.
Cheap Chinese steel is killing our own industry but the Tories are so far in thrall to Beijing that they opposed short term protection from the EU to our own industry.
The Hillsborough inquest has just returned a damning verdict on the tories pin up Thatcher and her campaign of lies.
Its an absolute mess.

Obviously there needs to be a story for our right wing media to focus on.

Ken Livingstone stands by Hitler comments - BBC News

And there you go. There is no anti semitism in the Labour Party. Im not a member and never have been but it is absurd to suggest that there is a problem. The "problem" is Jeremy Corbyn who terrifies those on the right as well as the right wing of his own party. He has to be stopped at all costs.

What kept you? Trotting out the usual party line script.

If there's no anti semitism in the Labour Party, as Diane Abbott keeps parroting out, why is there going to be an enquiry?

Jeremy Corbyn terrifies? Surely you jest. Just look at the sight of him. A surly petulant relic from a bygone age.

He should be put out to pasture with the the other two. Livingstone and Galloway.

I think that they are terrified of negative press reaction.

The enquiry will find that there is no basis to the allegation and recommend that party spokesman follow a specific line when talking about Israel/Palestine relations.

I would also suggest that bringing Hitler into the conversation, in any form, is not going to advance the discussion.

What cant be allowed to happen is that genuine concerns about Israeli government actions are shouted down under the guise of something else.

I realise that I will be called anti Semitic for stating that. I give it 5 posts at most.

What is your view Mindful ? I have no idea what your opinion is and yet you started the thread.

I learnt long ago to not attempt a "normal" discussion with types like you.

But it's obvious anti-semitism is dressed up as anti-Zionism, to be used as a Trojan Horse for Jew hatred.

"Oh, I've nothing against Jews" lol. Why would you have? Why should you have?

Hopefully somebody will translate that for me at some point.

Simples changing the terms of reference does not change the racism inherent in the words you post. Saying some of my friends are ( insert racist term here ) so I cant be a racist means that you know you are a racist and try to cover it up. Just the same tricks used by your hero's back in the 1930's using similar words

 

[Phoenall]

The background to all of this is the current political situation in the UK.

The ruling Tory party is in a mess. They are split over Europe. Cameron is a lame duck PM and his cabinet colleagues are ripping themselves up in a jostle for the throne.
The Chancellor just had a big part of his budget ripped up. The health service is in revolt with Doctors on strike for the first time in a generation.
The plan to privatise all our schools is falling apart with even their own MPs speaking against it.
Cheap Chinese steel is killing our own industry but the Tories are so far in thrall to Beijing that they opposed short term protection from the EU to our own industry.
The Hillsborough inquest has just returned a damning verdict on the tories pin up Thatcher and her campaign of lies.
Its an absolute mess.

Obviously there needs to be a story for our right wing media to focus on.

Ken Livingstone stands by Hitler comments - BBC News

And there you go. There is no anti semitism in the Labour Party. Im not a member and never have been but it is absurd to suggest that there is a problem. The "problem" is Jeremy Corbyn who terrifies those on the right as well as the right wing of his own party. He has to be stopped at all costs.

And if you bothered to look at the rules you would see that we cant bail out the privately owned Steel Works under EU laws. We cant even impose increased duty on any steel from other countries. All this because the neo Marxists sold the family silver in return for a handful of votes. Under Labour we could have modernised the Steel Industry and not have any problems now with imported cheap rubbish. Back then it was allowed to give grants and aid for modernisation if it meant the company cleaned up its act and reduced its carbon footprint. But they were more interested in funding the 100's of 1,000's of muslim migrants flooding the country welfare payments.

You mention Red Ken who supports Jew hatred, Nazism, anti Semitism and another holocaust, and is not scared to spout his filth in public. And far too many of the neo Marxists are just like him, making the labour party just another version of the National Socialist workers party of Germany. I wonder if they have plans for the New Auschwitz in Cardiff or Caernarvon

Its Caernarfon you colonialist wanker.
Did your mates in the illuminati tell you all this shite ?

Hit a raw nerve have I tainted, have you seen the plans for the camps around Snowdonia so they can mine slate, gold and silver for the neo Marxists

 

[Phoenall]

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

That lame duck argument has been done to death.

Criticism is not the same as demonisation.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

More crap.

Same old, same old.

That is what your OP- and this thread is. More and the same old partisan crap.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

And just what are those rights that you support.

So you are another that believes that the Jews should not be protected by International law if it takes away what the muslims have stolen

 

[Mindful]

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

That lame duck argument has been done to death.

Criticism is not the same as demonisation.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

More crap.

Same old, same old.

That is what your OP- and this thread is. More and the same old partisan crap.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

And just what are those rights that you support.

So you are another that believes that the Jews should not be protected by International law if it takes away what the muslims have stolen

Once the rhetoric descends into "legitimate rights", you recognise the mindset.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

That lame duck argument has been done to death.

Criticism is not the same as demonisation.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

More crap.

Same old, same old.

That is what your OP- and this thread is. More and the same old partisan crap.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

And just what are those rights that you support.

So you are another that believes that the Jews should not be protected by International law if it takes away what the muslims have stolen

Once the rhetoric descends into "legitimate rights", you recognise the mindset.

Is the state of Israel above criticism ? I cant see anything that this guy has said that seems to be out of order.

 

[Mindful]

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

More crap.

Same old, same old.

That is what your OP- and this thread is. More and the same old partisan crap.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

And just what are those rights that you support.

So you are another that believes that the Jews should not be protected by International law if it takes away what the muslims have stolen

Once the rhetoric descends into "legitimate rights", you recognise the mindset.

Is the state of Israel above criticism ? I cant see anything that this guy has said that seems to be out of order.

That straw man again. You must be desperate.

How many times have I already said that there is a difference between criticism and demonising? I have not once seen you 'criticise' Israel.

Though I would criticise Israel: for being a total and utter idiot in arming the PA police when Arafat rode into Ramallah.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

More crap.

Same old, same old.

That is what your OP- and this thread is. More and the same old partisan crap.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

And just what are those rights that you support.

So you are another that believes that the Jews should not be protected by International law if it takes away what the muslims have stolen

Once the rhetoric descends into "legitimate rights", you recognise the mindset.

Is the state of Israel above criticism ? I cant see anything that this guy has said that seems to be out of order.

That straw man again. You must be desperate.

How many times have I already said that there is a difference between criticism and demonising? I have not once seen you 'criticise' Israel.

Though I would criticise Israel: for being a total and utter idiot in arming the PA police when Arafat rode into Ramallah.

I have been critical of Israels treatment of the Palestinians. And then been called anti Semitic. It seems to be the standard response to close down discussion.
I guess from that response there is a siege mentality.

 

[Mindful]

That is what your OP- and this thread is. More and the same old partisan crap.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

And just what are those rights that you support.

So you are another that believes that the Jews should not be protected by International law if it takes away what the muslims have stolen

Once the rhetoric descends into "legitimate rights", you recognise the mindset.

Is the state of Israel above criticism ? I cant see anything that this guy has said that seems to be out of order.

That straw man again. You must be desperate.

How many times have I already said that there is a difference between criticism and demonising? I have not once seen you 'criticise' Israel.

Though I would criticise Israel: for being a total and utter idiot in arming the PA police when Arafat rode into Ramallah.

I have been critical of Israels treatment of the Palestinians. And then been called anti Semitic. It seems to be the standard response to close down discussion.
I guess from that response there is a siege mentality.

It's obvious why you would be called that.

 

[Syriusly]

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

That lame duck argument has been done to death.

Criticism is not the same as demonisation.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

More crap.

Same old, same old.

That is what your OP- and this thread is. More and the same old partisan crap.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

Your type doesn't criticise. It demonises.

my 'type'- in other words anyone who points out that you are just attempting to demonize the 'Left' by spewing the same old crap that anyone who criticizes Israel 'hates jews"?

That is what your OP- and this thread is. More and the same old partisan crap.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

 

[Syriusly]

That lame duck argument has been done to death.

Criticism is not the same as demonisation.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

More crap.

Same old, same old.

That is what your OP- and this thread is. More and the same old partisan crap.

The 'left hates the jews' idiocy has been done to death but it sure doesn't stop you from posting that crap again.

You are the one who started the crap with your demonization of the left as hating Jews- so once again:

Ah so Mindful is part of the camp that labels any criticism of Israel as being the 'Left hate the Jews".

While I support the right of Israel to exist- and even to exist as a Jewish homeland- that doesn't mean that I can't criticize actions of Israel I disagree with, and that run against the interests of the United States.

Nor does it mean I have to ignore the legitimate rights of the non-Jewish residents of Israel and Palestine.

Neither the Jews or Muslims in Israel and Palestine are going anywhere- they both have a legitimate right to be there- they both need to find a resolution to their conflict.

And just what are those rights that you support.

So you are another that believes that the Jews should not be protected by International law if it takes away what the muslims have stolen

Once the rhetoric descends into "legitimate rights", you recognise the mindset.

Heaven forbid that anyone say that anyone other than Jewish Israeli's have any 'legitimate rights'.

Unlike you I think that Israeli's- Jewish and Muslim have legitimate rights- as do Palestinians- as do people who dare point out your partisan crap for what it is.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

And just what are those rights that you support.

So you are another that believes that the Jews should not be protected by International law if it takes away what the muslims have stolen

Once the rhetoric descends into "legitimate rights", you recognise the mindset.

Is the state of Israel above criticism ? I cant see anything that this guy has said that seems to be out of order.

That straw man again. You must be desperate.

How many times have I already said that there is a difference between criticism and demonising? I have not once seen you 'criticise' Israel.

Though I would criticise Israel: for being a total and utter idiot in arming the PA police when Arafat rode into Ramallah.

I have been critical of Israels treatment of the Palestinians. And then been called anti Semitic. It seems to be the standard response to close down discussion.
I guess from that response there is a siege mentality.

It's obvious why you would be called that.

Nope, you would need to provide some evidence.

 

[Syriusly]

I think it is obvious from the OP's posts- his question is a fallacy from the beginning.

The real question is why does the OP want to label anyone who disagrees with him as 'hating jews'.

 

[Tommy Tainant]

I think it is obvious from the OP's posts- his question is a fallacy from the beginning.

The real question is why does the OP want to label anyone who disagrees with him as 'hating jews'.

The OP isnt that articulate. Happier posting a cutnpaste than an original opinion.

 

[Mindful]

I think it is obvious from the OP's posts- his question is a fallacy from the beginning.

The real question is why does the OP want to label anyone who disagrees with him as 'hating jews'.

The OP isnt that articulate. Happier posting a cutnpaste than an original opinion.

Keep trying.