Why does the right defend the wealthy class

[francoHFW]

Of course, but our middle class has been crushed by Reaganist tax rates and policy (- see Trump and all Dems). Defended to the death by greedy idiot megarich Pubs and their silly dupes. Infrastructure jobs and training for 3-4 million tech jobs going begging would need some gov't activity.

This is a classic example of what I brought up in the OP.

Your whiny ass will accomplish nothing without the buy-in of conservatives. And what you say isn't all true.

Democrats in congress are just as greedy as the republicans. Clinton is a moneymonger.

You have no clue. You can't get past that government isn't pure.

Shut up.

Certainly not Pub gov't with their corrupt Wall St/crony bubbles EVERY TIME, hater dupe. What the country needs is investment in the PEOPLE and tax cuts for the nonrich?, tax hikes on the bloated rich and giant corps DUHHHHH... ASK TRUMP, stupid. Can you watch 60 Minutes or is that communistic, Pub chump?

Hater Dupe...Hater Dupe....Hater Dupe.....

You haven't ready what I posted you lazy good for nothing scum wad.

I essentially said the same thing...with a few exceptions.

But you are a total s&&tbag for thinking that democrats don't do the same thing.

They both suck.

Except for Dems, who agree with your link. Duh. lol. WTF do you think we're arguing about, genius?

You don't argue anything. You simply post B.S.

Hater dupes....pubs....

Got news for you jerkwad, it's both sides. Democrats do nothing for the little guy. They do stuff like bail out GM.

Yeah, and saved millions of jobs. Pubs (rich GOP masters) bailed out their banking/Wall St a-hole pals who caused a world depression for easy money.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

This is a classic example of what I brought up in the OP.

Your whiny ass will accomplish nothing without the buy-in of conservatives. And what you say isn't all true.

Democrats in congress are just as greedy as the republicans. Clinton is a moneymonger.

You have no clue. You can't get past that government isn't pure.

Shut up.

Certainly not Pub gov't with their corrupt Wall St/crony bubbles EVERY TIME, hater dupe. What the country needs is investment in the PEOPLE and tax cuts for the nonrich?, tax hikes on the bloated rich and giant corps DUHHHHH... ASK TRUMP, stupid. Can you watch 60 Minutes or is that communistic, Pub chump?

Hater Dupe...Hater Dupe....Hater Dupe.....

You haven't ready what I posted you lazy good for nothing scum wad.

I essentially said the same thing...with a few exceptions.

But you are a total s&&tbag for thinking that democrats don't do the same thing.

They both suck.

Except for Dems, who agree with your link. Duh. lol. WTF do you think we're arguing about, genius?

You don't argue anything. You simply post B.S.

Hater dupes....pubs....

Got news for you jerkwad, it's both sides. Democrats do nothing for the little guy. They do stuff like bail out GM.

Yeah, and saved millions of jobs. Pubs (rich GOP masters) bailed out their banking/Wall St a-hole pals who caused a world depression for easy money.

They saved nothing.

GM should have tanked.

Wall Street should have tanked.

The democrats and GOP helped save both to keep themselves in power and money.

 

[francoHFW]

What a dumb conversation.

Why does the Dems buy Unions with tax payer money?

Why do the Dems buy the poor with welfare?

There is no link to your brain. It's been Mia as long as you've been posting here.

Thom Hartmann: How America Killed Its Middle Class

Not a big fan of Alternet.....but this one makes a statement I think begs a question.

Piketty is right, especially about the importance of high marginal tax rates and inheritance taxes being necessary for the creation of a middle class that includes working-class people. Progressive taxation, when done correctly, pushes wages down to working people and reduces the incentives for the very rich to pillage their companies or rip off their workers. After all, why take another billion when 91 percent of it just going to be paid in taxes?

This is the main reason why, when GM was our largest employer and our working class were also in the middle class, CEOs only took home 30 times what working people did. The top tax rate for all the time America's middle class was created was between 74 and 91 percent. Until, of course, Reagan dropped it to 28 percent and working people moved from the middle class to becoming the working poor.

False premise.

Wrong conclusion.

Look, I don't stump for anyone.

This is an issue that I've struggled with for a long long time.

I am not a left wing moron like Franco.

So if the premise is false, I invite you to point out where.

I respect your thoughts.

Of course, we left wing morons agree with your link. Duh.

You left wing morons are just that....

Now get off the thread....ass wipe.

Sure, shyttehead. Just when you with that link were just showing some intelligence lol...wanna hit me? lol.

 

[rdean]

Thom Hartmann: How America Killed Its Middle Class

Not a big fan of Alternet.....but this one makes a statement I think begs a question.

Piketty is right, especially about the importance of high marginal tax rates and inheritance taxes being necessary for the creation of a middle class that includes working-class people. Progressive taxation, when done correctly, pushes wages down to working people and reduces the incentives for the very rich to pillage their companies or rip off their workers. After all, why take another billion when 91 percent of it just going to be paid in taxes?

This is the main reason why, when GM was our largest employer and our working class were also in the middle class, CEOs only took home 30 times what working people did. The top tax rate for all the time America's middle class was created was between 74 and 91 percent. Until, of course, Reagan dropped it to 28 percent and working people moved from the middle class to becoming the working poor.

#############################

So, as we continue to let the rich just go nuts...what is it that isn't there to prevent them.

Why does the far right vote to protect the interest of the rich ?

The answer lies, in part, in the fact that the far left is no better. First, they suck off the rich like others.

Next, they won't make a rational case. They need conservatives to join them. And yet they, like some of the assholes on this board, do nothing but antagonize them.

And the rich just eat it up......

######################################

This thread originally got moved to Europe because I led in with an article about the European middle class.

But the comparison is bright as the day is long.

I bash the left.

I bash the right.

Regardless, this is a huge issue in my mind.

Now, if the left starts squawking about how the rich screw them over...I'd ask how they get away with it. They only get away with it because the government protects them.

The right yells...hands off. But this article flies in the face of that.

You're half right.

Democrats have no problem with becoming rich. Just not by stomping all over others.

Republicans see becoming rich, no matter how you do it, as a good thing.

It's not the fact of wealth, it's the way you got it.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

You are worthless Franco.

Like so many left wingers, you are blinded by the guys (like Al

What a dumb conversation.

Why does the Dems buy Unions with tax payer money?

Why do the Dems buy the poor with welfare?

There is no link to your brain. It's been Mia as long as you've been posting here.

Thom Hartmann: How America Killed Its Middle Class

Not a big fan of Alternet.....but this one makes a statement I think begs a question.

Piketty is right, especially about the importance of high marginal tax rates and inheritance taxes being necessary for the creation of a middle class that includes working-class people. Progressive taxation, when done correctly, pushes wages down to working people and reduces the incentives for the very rich to pillage their companies or rip off their workers. After all, why take another billion when 91 percent of it just going to be paid in taxes?

This is the main reason why, when GM was our largest employer and our working class were also in the middle class, CEOs only took home 30 times what working people did. The top tax rate for all the time America's middle class was created was between 74 and 91 percent. Until, of course, Reagan dropped it to 28 percent and working people moved from the middle class to becoming the working poor.

False premise.

Wrong conclusion.

Look, I don't stump for anyone.

This is an issue that I've struggled with for a long long time.

I am not a left wing moron like Franco.

So if the premise is false, I invite you to point out where.

I respect your thoughts.

Of course, we left wing morons agree with your link. Duh.

You left wing morons are just that....

Now get off the thread....ass wipe.

Sure, shyttehead. Just when you with that link were just showing some intelligence lol...wanna hit me? lol.

To bad you've never shown any.

It's sorry pricks like you who've ruined the conversation in this country.

The Rich love people like you. You drive conservatives (who do concern themselves with these matters) away from the discussion and make it easier for them to control the whole process.

 

[francoHFW]

Certainly not Pub gov't with their corrupt Wall St/crony bubbles EVERY TIME, hater dupe. What the country needs is investment in the PEOPLE and tax cuts for the nonrich?, tax hikes on the bloated rich and giant corps DUHHHHH... ASK TRUMP, stupid. Can you watch 60 Minutes or is that communistic, Pub chump?

Hater Dupe...Hater Dupe....Hater Dupe.....

You haven't ready what I posted you lazy good for nothing scum wad.

I essentially said the same thing...with a few exceptions.

But you are a total s&&tbag for thinking that democrats don't do the same thing.

They both suck.

Except for Dems, who agree with your link. Duh. lol. WTF do you think we're arguing about, genius?

You don't argue anything. You simply post B.S.

Hater dupes....pubs....

Got news for you jerkwad, it's both sides. Democrats do nothing for the little guy. They do stuff like bail out GM.

Yeah, and saved millions of jobs. Pubs (rich GOP masters) bailed out their banking/Wall St a-hole pals who caused a world depression for easy money.

They saved nothing.

GM should have tanked.

Wall Street should have tanked.

The democrats and GOP helped save both to keep themselves in power and money.

Actually, they were both needed to save the world economy from total destruction. But we didn't need corrupt Boooshies and their Real estate etc pals wrecking the world.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Thom Hartmann: How America Killed Its Middle Class

Not a big fan of Alternet.....but this one makes a statement I think begs a question.

Piketty is right, especially about the importance of high marginal tax rates and inheritance taxes being necessary for the creation of a middle class that includes working-class people. Progressive taxation, when done correctly, pushes wages down to working people and reduces the incentives for the very rich to pillage their companies or rip off their workers. After all, why take another billion when 91 percent of it just going to be paid in taxes?

This is the main reason why, when GM was our largest employer and our working class were also in the middle class, CEOs only took home 30 times what working people did. The top tax rate for all the time America's middle class was created was between 74 and 91 percent. Until, of course, Reagan dropped it to 28 percent and working people moved from the middle class to becoming the working poor.

#############################

So, as we continue to let the rich just go nuts...what is it that isn't there to prevent them.

Why does the far right vote to protect the interest of the rich ?

The answer lies, in part, in the fact that the far left is no better. First, they suck off the rich like others.

Next, they won't make a rational case. They need conservatives to join them. And yet they, like some of the assholes on this board, do nothing but antagonize them.

And the rich just eat it up......

######################################

This thread originally got moved to Europe because I led in with an article about the European middle class.

But the comparison is bright as the day is long.

I bash the left.

I bash the right.

Regardless, this is a huge issue in my mind.

Now, if the left starts squawking about how the rich screw them over...I'd ask how they get away with it. They only get away with it because the government protects them.

The right yells...hands off. But this article flies in the face of that.

You're half right.

Democrats have no problem with becoming rich. Just not by stomping all over others.

Republicans see becoming rich, no matter how you do it, as a good thing.

It's not the fact of wealth, it's the way you got it.

Don't even bother coming here.

You are worthless.

If you defend the democrats, you are a moron.

The GOP sucks.

Democrats suck.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Hater Dupe...Hater Dupe....Hater Dupe.....

You haven't ready what I posted you lazy good for nothing scum wad.

I essentially said the same thing...with a few exceptions.

But you are a total s&&tbag for thinking that democrats don't do the same thing.

They both suck.

Except for Dems, who agree with your link. Duh. lol. WTF do you think we're arguing about, genius?

You don't argue anything. You simply post B.S.

Hater dupes....pubs....

Got news for you jerkwad, it's both sides. Democrats do nothing for the little guy. They do stuff like bail out GM.

Yeah, and saved millions of jobs. Pubs (rich GOP masters) bailed out their banking/Wall St a-hole pals who caused a world depression for easy money.

They saved nothing.

GM should have tanked.

Wall Street should have tanked.

The democrats and GOP helped save both to keep themselves in power and money.

Actually, they were both needed to save the world economy from total destruction. But we didn't need corrupt Boooshies and their Real estate etc pals wrecking the world.

Please keep telling yourself that. That is what the rich want you to believe.

Do you know what a tool you are.

You do so well, they should be paying you.

 

[francoHFW]

Except for Dems, who agree with your link. Duh. lol. WTF do you think we're arguing about, genius?

You don't argue anything. You simply post B.S.

Hater dupes....pubs....

Got news for you jerkwad, it's both sides. Democrats do nothing for the little guy. They do stuff like bail out GM.

Yeah, and saved millions of jobs. Pubs (rich GOP masters) bailed out their banking/Wall St a-hole pals who caused a world depression for easy money.

They saved nothing.

GM should have tanked.

Wall Street should have tanked.

The democrats and GOP helped save both to keep themselves in power and money.

Actually, they were both needed to save the world economy from total destruction. But we didn't need corrupt Boooshies and their Real estate etc pals wrecking the world.

Please keep telling yourself that. That is what the rich want you to believe.

Do you know what a tool you are.

You do so well, they should be paying you.

The dupe is down to to stupid name calling. Any argument AT ALL? If you look at history omg I'm just right and your boys are a disaster duh. The rich want me to believe the rich should be taxed? Idiocy.

 

[Avatar4321]

My neighbor isn't a different class of person simply because he makes more or less money than I do. Class divisions are a figment of the imagination of politicians trying to divide us.

 

[francoHFW]

Thom Hartmann: How America Killed Its Middle Class

Not a big fan of Alternet.....but this one makes a statement I think begs a question.

Piketty is right, especially about the importance of high marginal tax rates and inheritance taxes being necessary for the creation of a middle class that includes working-class people. Progressive taxation, when done correctly, pushes wages down to working people and reduces the incentives for the very rich to pillage their companies or rip off their workers. After all, why take another billion when 91 percent of it just going to be paid in taxes?

This is the main reason why, when GM was our largest employer and our working class were also in the middle class, CEOs only took home 30 times what working people did. The top tax rate for all the time America's middle class was created was between 74 and 91 percent. Until, of course, Reagan dropped it to 28 percent and working people moved from the middle class to becoming the working poor.

#############################

So, as we continue to let the rich just go nuts...what is it that isn't there to prevent them.

Why does the far right vote to protect the interest of the rich ?

The answer lies, in part, in the fact that the far left is no better. First, they suck off the rich like others.

Next, they won't make a rational case. They need conservatives to join them. And yet they, like some of the assholes on this board, do nothing but antagonize them.

And the rich just eat it up......

######################################

This thread originally got moved to Europe because I led in with an article about the European middle class.

But the comparison is bright as the day is long.

I bash the left.

I bash the right.

Regardless, this is a huge issue in my mind.

Now, if the left starts squawking about how the rich screw them over...I'd ask how they get away with it. They only get away with it because the government protects them.

The right yells...hands off. But this article flies in the face of that.

You're half right.

Democrats have no problem with becoming rich. Just not by stomping all over others.

Republicans see becoming rich, no matter how you do it, as a good thing.

It's not the fact of wealth, it's the way you got it.

Don't even bother coming here.

You are worthless.

If you defend the democrats, you are a moron.

The GOP sucks.

Democrats suck.

They do nothing for the poor but give them health care, SS, UE, tax cuts, training, good infrastructure, cheaper loans, growth without bubbles and crashes...Ay caramba, dupe.

 

[Political Junky]

Thom Hartmann is right.

 

[francoHFW]

My neighbor isn't a different class of person simply because he makes more or less money than I do. Class divisions are a figment of the imagination of politicians trying to divide us.

While Pubs have been killing you and your friends and family for 30 years. See sig for 30 years of voodoo.

 

[francoHFW]

Thom Hartmann: How America Killed Its Middle Class

Not a big fan of Alternet.....but this one makes a statement I think begs a question.

Piketty is right, especially about the importance of high marginal tax rates and inheritance taxes being necessary for the creation of a middle class that includes working-class people. Progressive taxation, when done correctly, pushes wages down to working people and reduces the incentives for the very rich to pillage their companies or rip off their workers. After all, why take another billion when 91 percent of it just going to be paid in taxes?

This is the main reason why, when GM was our largest employer and our working class were also in the middle class, CEOs only took home 30 times what working people did. The top tax rate for all the time America's middle class was created was between 74 and 91 percent. Until, of course, Reagan dropped it to 28 percent and working people moved from the middle class to becoming the working poor.

#############################

So, as we continue to let the rich just go nuts...what is it that isn't there to prevent them.

Why does the far right vote to protect the interest of the rich ?

The answer lies, in part, in the fact that the far left is no better. First, they suck off the rich like others.

Next, they won't make a rational case. They need conservatives to join them. And yet they, like some of the assholes on this board, do nothing but antagonize them.

And the rich just eat it up......

######################################

This thread originally got moved to Europe because I led in with an article about the European middle class.

But the comparison is bright as the day is long.

I bash the left.

I bash the right.

Regardless, this is a huge issue in my mind.

Now, if the left starts squawking about how the rich screw them over...I'd ask how they get away with it. They only get away with it because the government protects them.

The right yells...hands off. But this article flies in the face of that.

You're half right.

Democrats have no problem with becoming rich. Just not by stomping all over others.

Republicans see becoming rich, no matter how you do it, as a good thing.

It's not the fact of wealth, it's the way you got it.

Don't even bother coming here.

You are worthless.

If you defend the democrats, you are a moron.

The GOP sucks.

Democrats suck.

They do nothing for the poor but give them health care, SS, UE, tax cuts, training, good infrastructure, cheaper loans, growth without bubbles and crashes...Ay caramba, dupe.

Of course he is. And Pubs are greedy idiots, and their dupes are ignorant.

 

[IsaacNewton]

It is the norm for all human societies.

They start out with most people fairly even monetarily. Over time, a few gather wealth to themselves and they start gaming the system to make themselves even wealthier and keep the masses stagnant cheap paid workers.

As this wealth gap widens the masses, over time, grow ever more angry and tired of a few and their families having all good things that the whole society produces and the masses having almost nothing.

Then you have revolution, the wealthy are killed and possession and land dispersed, and the whole system starts over again.

The advent of media, like tv and radio, has made it much simpler for the few to brainwash and manipulate the many, which wasn't that hard to begin with but modern media has an exponential forcing effect on propaganda.

To figure out which part of society is most easily brainwashed and manipulated into action that is against their own best interest look no further than which media outlets use fear and induce anger to get their followers to 'hate' the 'other'.

I won't name any of them but it isn't an even dispersal of such propaganda by a long shot. One side uses fear as a drug dealer uses crack as an inticement.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Thom Hartmann: How America Killed Its Middle Class

Not a big fan of Alternet.....but this one makes a statement I think begs a question.

Piketty is right, especially about the importance of high marginal tax rates and inheritance taxes being necessary for the creation of a middle class that includes working-class people. Progressive taxation, when done correctly, pushes wages down to working people and reduces the incentives for the very rich to pillage their companies or rip off their workers. After all, why take another billion when 91 percent of it just going to be paid in taxes?

This is the main reason why, when GM was our largest employer and our working class were also in the middle class, CEOs only took home 30 times what working people did. The top tax rate for all the time America's middle class was created was between 74 and 91 percent. Until, of course, Reagan dropped it to 28 percent and working people moved from the middle class to becoming the working poor.

#############################

So, as we continue to let the rich just go nuts...what is it that isn't there to prevent them.

Why does the far right vote to protect the interest of the rich ?

The answer lies, in part, in the fact that the far left is no better. First, they suck off the rich like others.

Next, they won't make a rational case. They need conservatives to join them. And yet they, like some of the assholes on this board, do nothing but antagonize them.

And the rich just eat it up......

######################################

This thread originally got moved to Europe because I led in with an article about the European middle class.

But the comparison is bright as the day is long.

I bash the left.

I bash the right.

Regardless, this is a huge issue in my mind.

Now, if the left starts squawking about how the rich screw them over...I'd ask how they get away with it. They only get away with it because the government protects them.

The right yells...hands off. But this article flies in the face of that.

You're half right.

Democrats have no problem with becoming rich. Just not by stomping all over others.

Republicans see becoming rich, no matter how you do it, as a good thing.

It's not the fact of wealth, it's the way you got it.

Don't even bother coming here.

You are worthless.

If you defend the democrats, you are a moron.

The GOP sucks.

Democrats suck.

They do nothing for the poor but give them health care, SS, UE, tax cuts, training, good infrastructure, cheaper loans, growth without bubbles and crashes...Ay caramba, dupe.

Of course he is. And Pubs are greedy idiots, and their dupes are ignorant.

You answer your own posts.

Drinking ?

 

[OnePercenter]

Because we own their asses.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

It is the norm for all human societies.

They start out with most people fairly even monetarily. Over time, a few gather wealth to themselves and they start gaming the system to make themselves even wealthier and keep the masses stagnant cheap paid workers.

As this wealth gap widens the masses, over time, grow ever more angry and tired of a few and their families having all good things that the whole society produces and the masses having almost nothing.

Then you have revolution, the wealthy are killed and possession and land dispersed, and the whole system starts over again.

The advent of media, like tv and radio, has made it much simpler for the few to brainwash and manipulate the many, which wasn't that hard to begin with but modern media has an exponential forcing effect on propaganda.

To figure out which part of society is most easily brainwashed and manipulated into action that is against their own best interest look no further than which media outlets use fear and induce anger to get their followers to 'hate' the 'other'.

I won't name any of them but it isn't an even dispersal of such propaganda by a long shot. One side uses fear as a drug dealer uses crack as an inticement.

What a crock.

The number of people exposed to this so called media is a small percentage in total.

There are predisposed notions that people have that they cling to.

When attacked (and both sides attack each other with alacrity), they withdraw.

Trust is low.

And the power brokers win.

One side ??? You can't be serious.

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Because we own their asses.

What are responding to ?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Thom Hartmann: How America Killed Its Middle Class

Not a big fan of Alternet.....but this one makes a statement I think begs a question.

Piketty is right, especially about the importance of high marginal tax rates and inheritance taxes being necessary for the creation of a middle class that includes working-class people. Progressive taxation, when done correctly, pushes wages down to working people and reduces the incentives for the very rich to pillage their companies or rip off their workers. After all, why take another billion when 91 percent of it just going to be paid in taxes?

This is the main reason why, when GM was our largest employer and our working class were also in the middle class, CEOs only took home 30 times what working people did. The top tax rate for all the time America's middle class was created was between 74 and 91 percent. Until, of course, Reagan dropped it to 28 percent and working people moved from the middle class to becoming the working poor.

#############################

So, as we continue to let the rich just go nuts...what is it that isn't there to prevent them.

Why does the far right vote to protect the interest of the rich ?

The answer lies, in part, in the fact that the far left is no better. First, they suck off the rich like others.

Next, they won't make a rational case. They need conservatives to join them. And yet they, like some of the assholes on this board, do nothing but antagonize them.

And the rich just eat it up......

######################################

This thread originally got moved to Europe because I led in with an article about the European middle class.

But the comparison is bright as the day is long.

I bash the left.

I bash the right.

Regardless, this is a huge issue in my mind.

Now, if the left starts squawking about how the rich screw them over...I'd ask how they get away with it. They only get away with it because the government protects them.

The right yells...hands off. But this article flies in the face of that.

You're half right.

Democrats have no problem with becoming rich. Just not by stomping all over others.

Republicans see becoming rich, no matter how you do it, as a good thing.

It's not the fact of wealth, it's the way you got it.

Don't even bother coming here.

You are worthless.

If you defend the democrats, you are a moron.

The GOP sucks.

Democrats suck.

They do nothing for the poor but give them health care, SS, UE, tax cuts, training, good infrastructure, cheaper loans, growth without bubbles and crashes...Ay caramba, dupe.

ROTFLMAO......

You really are a left wing brown shirt.

And we really should call you "brown eyes" too (because you are so full of shyt).