Why doesn’t Black Lives Matter welcome robust debate with people who disagree?

[Asclepias]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Probably because its not up for you to debate. You are white and have never lived a fraction of a second as a Black person.

You aren't going to get anything kid. Not. One. Thing. You. Don't. Earn. for. Yourself. You wear your "blackness" like a disability.

I already have more than you and I will get more no matter how hard you close your eyes and chant to yourself and no matter how many times you click your heels in your silver slippers.

 

[ColtMadeMenEqual]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Probably because its not up for you to debate. You are white and have never lived a fraction of a second as a Black person.

You aren't going to get anything kid. Not. One. Thing. You. Don't. Earn. for. Yourself. You wear your "blackness" like a disability.

I already have more than you and I will get more no matter how hard you close your eyes and chant to yourself and no matter how many times you click your heels in your silver slippers.

You are as wealthy as you are black.

Honky.

 

[Asclepias]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Probably because its not up for you to debate. You are white and have never lived a fraction of a second as a Black person.

You aren't going to get anything kid. Not. One. Thing. You. Don't. Earn. for. Yourself. You wear your "blackness" like a disability.

I already have more than you and I will get more no matter how hard you close your eyes and chant to yourself and no matter how many times you click your heels in your silver slippers.

You are as wealthy as you are black.

Honky.

"You are as wealthy as you are black."

I'm doing good but not that good. I guess when you factor in the worth of my melanin then I must be like worth decillion

 

[iceberg]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

it's hilarious when a black person calls BLM out. how can they say "well what do you know!" and suddenly it's no longer about the color of your skin in as much as what you feel you're owed out of life.

 

[MizMolly]

It's quite simple, if a "White" man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is "Racist". It really is just that simple.

Who told you BLM was about that?

I'm not limiting it to BLM.

What do you mean? You want to put anyone who is black in your debate? Everyone should stereotype for you and like you?

You aren't very good at this. My statement is true, more than not feel just that way.
ESPECIALLY the resident black posters here.

If he isn't very good at this, you're even worse.

"If a 'White' man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is 'Racist'." This is a racist statement. You follow that with "My statement is true, more than not feel just that way". While your statement is NOT true, you are correct that many (not most) people feel that way. This is proof that systemic racism is a serious problem in America.

I know that's not what you thought you were proving, but with your standard conservative pretzel logic, you manage to shoot yourself in the foot. Every. Single. Time.

It is true and you're an idiot.I've never shot myself in ay foot honey. Go peddle your "White Guilt" elsewhere.

I'm not "peddling" anything. I'm just pointing out your "truth" which you acknowledge is widely believed, is not only a fallacy, but a racist fallacy at that. Thank you for acknowledging that racism is wide spread and systemic. It's a beginning. The next step is to acknowledge that it's harming the WHOLE nation, and not just black people.

It's neither widespread nor systemic.

Imagine if someone stupidly said "based on the stats, we can see that blacks are just systemtically criminals" it isn't true.

Just using YOUR numbers, let's say 1000 Americans were killed by police in this country and assume that each of them was due to bad behavior by the police, and we'll even assume 100% of them were black so that we can come up with the most generous numbers to your argument.

Last year there were roughly 2.2M black people arrested in this country.

We'll use that number as the basis for both arguments.

There are roughly 42M blacks in the US,

So 5% of the black population was arrested last year. 5% proves that blacks are not systemically criminal. I'm sure you would agree. It's not like 50% of blacks are breaking the law, it's actually a very lower number. Whites are around 2.5%, Asians, around 1%. Relatively speaking all are very small numbers, and of course we'd like to see lower figures, but the reality is when you have a free society, you're going to have more criminal behavior. Not much you can do about that.

Now, let's look at the 1,000 deaths. Even if every single one of them were black, you would be talking about less than .5% of blacks arrested by cops last year were killed by those cops. if you figure the real numbers, and see that we're talking about 1,000 deaths in 11M arrests. that's less than 1/10th of percent.

So unless you are prepared to argue that 5% of blacks being arrested proves that blacks are systemic criminals there is no logical way you can reach the conclusion that .01% of arrests ending in the suspect being killed by police proves that we have systemic police brutality in this country.

And of course there is the anecdotal evidence that proves the lie. If this country was so racist, and Democrats cared as much about black and brown people as they say they do , they would NOT be encouraging the daily deluge of black and brown people who come to this country looking for safety , even at the risk of their own lives.

This is a made up bullshit argument by Democrats who know that their voters are stupid. Plain and simple.

Your entire line of reasoning based is based on a racist system of violent over policing, so ALL of the numbers used are skewed to the excessive number of police interactions with minorities are heavily skewed against minorities.

White kids have their pot confiscated and are sent on their way. White kids have a future and we don't want their "boys will be boys behaviour" to hamper their job and education prospects for the rest of their lives, just over a little weed. Young blacks and young white use marijuana at about the same rates.

Black kids get arrested for the same thing.

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Black people are 13% of the population but commit 52% of the murders in America.

Table 21

ucr.fbi.gov

Generation poverty, unemployment, underemployment, poor schools, segregation and the fact that young Black men get far harsher prison sentences for the crime committed than any other race in the country takes its toll on a population.

This has all been going on for years and still is

No, it isn’t always fair. But is it as widespread as you make it? Money talks. Black or white, if your family has money, you likely get off easier. Is it apples to apples? If someone is a repeat offender, they will probably get a harsher punishment. If someone is caught with a little weed in his pocket, he will get off easier than someone with a pound.

 

[JustAGuy1]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Probably because its not up for you to debate. You are white and have never lived a fraction of a second as a Black person.

You aren't going to get anything kid. Not. One. Thing. You. Don't. Earn. for. Yourself. You wear your "blackness" like a disability.

I already have more than you and I will get more no matter how hard you close your eyes and chant to yourself and no matter how many times you click your heels in your silver slippers.

LOL, sure thing pop. You're a welfare queen, nothing more.

 

[IM2]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

The answer is simply really, they dwe on't want discussion because BLM exists to turn a molehill into a mountain.

Is it a damn shame that even one American is killed due to bad behavior of police? Of course it is, but what kind of outrage is going to develop if BLM , and others, just came out and said "looking at the facts, we have 50 americans killed by bad actors in police departments in this country last year, that's 50 too many?" The answer is "not much" so instead they gin up the numbers, and scream about "systemic racism" and then squelch all reasonable debate, because the reality is BLM , and others, KNOW we have the least racist, most careful police in the world , and facts prove this, so every dissent MUST be shut down before the actual facts can enter the discussion.

You have 1000 Americans killed by police every single year, even as crime numbers are declining. 47 of the people killed by police last year were unarmed. Police officers who are fired for excessive force just get hired somewhere else. The protections for police officers using force are such that racist assholes who just want to bully blacks and shouldn't be working in policing at all, are still on the force. Chauvin had 16 excessive force violations, and had previously killed another person before he murdered George Floyd.

In the first world, the police in other nations don't kill their citizens in anywhere near the numbers that American police do. You have the highest number of people incarcerated in the first world, even as crime goes down. Their police forces are militarized, and they live in the communities where they serve.

French police killed 26 people last year. In the UK, that number was 3 - and two of them were murdering, knife wielding terrorists on London Bridge. In Canada, that number was 8. Norway, and a number of other European nations, had 0. The violence by American police is out of control. Nowhere have we seen this more than in the attacks on peaceful protestors in the marches.

Makes one wonder why you people continue to support Democrats who have ran these cities and police departments for years, in many cases DECADES.

A current Democrat Senator who wanted to be President, and very well could end up being VP was the AG in Minnesota for years, how did she handle cases of police misconduct?

Klobuchar Ramped Up Prosecutions, Except in Cases Against Police (Published 2020)

The candidate has faced tough questions about a disputed murder conviction and her record of seeking stiff sentences while declining to prosecute police shootings.

www.nytimes.com

Why? Most likely because Police unions were stuffing her pockets with cash.

And of course you can just go on down the line , there are MANY Democrats like Amy Klobuchar.

No, you need to look at why Republicans keep losing these elections. Because your party is full of Rand Pauls who can't seem to agree with an anti lynching law.

 

[IM2]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

it's hilarious when a black person calls BLM out. how can they say "well what do you know!" and suddenly it's no longer about the color of your skin in as much as what you feel you're owed out of life.

Blacks aren't calling BLM out. Uncle Toms are.

 

[Dragonlady]

It's quite simple, if a "White" man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is "Racist". It really is just that simple.

Who told you BLM was about that?

I'm not limiting it to BLM.

What do you mean? You want to put anyone who is black in your debate? Everyone should stereotype for you and like you?

You aren't very good at this. My statement is true, more than not feel just that way.
ESPECIALLY the resident black posters here.

If he isn't very good at this, you're even worse.

"If a 'White' man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is 'Racist'." This is a racist statement. You follow that with "My statement is true, more than not feel just that way". While your statement is NOT true, you are correct that many (not most) people feel that way. This is proof that systemic racism is a serious problem in America.

I know that's not what you thought you were proving, but with your standard conservative pretzel logic, you manage to shoot yourself in the foot. Every. Single. Time.

It is true and you're an idiot.I've never shot myself in ay foot honey. Go peddle your "White Guilt" elsewhere.

I'm not "peddling" anything. I'm just pointing out your "truth" which you acknowledge is widely believed, is not only a fallacy, but a racist fallacy at that. Thank you for acknowledging that racism is wide spread and systemic. It's a beginning. The next step is to acknowledge that it's harming the WHOLE nation, and not just black people.

It's neither widespread nor systemic.

Imagine if someone stupidly said "based on the stats, we can see that blacks are just systemtically criminals" it isn't true.

Just using YOUR numbers, let's say 1000 Americans were killed by police in this country and assume that each of them was due to bad behavior by the police, and we'll even assume 100% of them were black so that we can come up with the most generous numbers to your argument.

Last year there were roughly 2.2M black people arrested in this country.

We'll use that number as the basis for both arguments.

There are roughly 42M blacks in the US,

So 5% of the black population was arrested last year. 5% proves that blacks are not systemically criminal. I'm sure you would agree. It's not like 50% of blacks are breaking the law, it's actually a very lower number. Whites are around 2.5%, Asians, around 1%. Relatively speaking all are very small numbers, and of course we'd like to see lower figures, but the reality is when you have a free society, you're going to have more criminal behavior. Not much you can do about that.

Now, let's look at the 1,000 deaths. Even if every single one of them were black, you would be talking about less than .5% of blacks arrested by cops last year were killed by those cops. if you figure the real numbers, and see that we're talking about 1,000 deaths in 11M arrests. that's less than 1/10th of percent.

So unless you are prepared to argue that 5% of blacks being arrested proves that blacks are systemic criminals there is no logical way you can reach the conclusion that .01% of arrests ending in the suspect being killed by police proves that we have systemic police brutality in this country.

And of course there is the anecdotal evidence that proves the lie. If this country was so racist, and Democrats cared as much about black and brown people as they say they do , they would NOT be encouraging the daily deluge of black and brown people who come to this country looking for safety , even at the risk of their own lives.

This is a made up bullshit argument by Democrats who know that their voters are stupid. Plain and simple.

Your entire line of reasoning based is based on a racist system of violent over policing, so ALL of the numbers used are skewed to the excessive number of police interactions with minorities are heavily skewed against minorities.

White kids have their pot confiscated and are sent on their way. White kids have a future and we don't want their "boys will be boys behaviour" to hamper their job and education prospects for the rest of their lives, just over a little weed. Young blacks and young white use marijuana at about the same rates.

Black kids get arrested for the same thing.

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Black people are 13% of the population but commit 52% of the murders in America.

Table 21

ucr.fbi.gov

The two countries in the world who have practiced segregation, apartheid, and the systematic subjugation of the black population have two highest rates of black on black crime and murder. Quelle surprise.

Crime and violence are a by-product of poverty and discrimination, not race. You don't have these sky high rates of black on black crime and violence in countries without systemic segregation and discrimmination. The USA has a higher rate of murder than many black African countries. including Kenya, Angola, Rawanda and Somolia.

Every one of your bullshit racist conservative memes that say that blacks are dumber, lazier, and less responsible than white people can be demonstrated to be white privilege propaganda, that gullible fools like you eat up with a fork and spoon while enjoying your white privilege.

It's quite simple, if a "White" man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is "Racist". It really is just that simple.

Who told you BLM was about that?

I'm not limiting it to BLM.

What do you mean? You want to put anyone who is black in your debate? Everyone should stereotype for you and like you?

You aren't very good at this. My statement is true, more than not feel just that way.
ESPECIALLY the resident black posters here.

If he isn't very good at this, you're even worse.

"If a 'White' man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is 'Racist'." This is a racist statement. You follow that with "My statement is true, more than not feel just that way". While your statement is NOT true, you are correct that many (not most) people feel that way. This is proof that systemic racism is a serious problem in America.

I know that's not what you thought you were proving, but with your standard conservative pretzel logic, you manage to shoot yourself in the foot. Every. Single. Time.

It is true and you're an idiot.I've never shot myself in ay foot honey. Go peddle your "White Guilt" elsewhere.

I'm not "peddling" anything. I'm just pointing out your "truth" which you acknowledge is widely believed, is not only a fallacy, but a racist fallacy at that. Thank you for acknowledging that racism is wide spread and systemic. It's a beginning. The next step is to acknowledge that it's harming the WHOLE nation, and not just black people.

It's neither widespread nor systemic.

Imagine if someone stupidly said "based on the stats, we can see that blacks are just systemtically criminals" it isn't true.

Just using YOUR numbers, let's say 1000 Americans were killed by police in this country and assume that each of them was due to bad behavior by the police, and we'll even assume 100% of them were black so that we can come up with the most generous numbers to your argument.

Last year there were roughly 2.2M black people arrested in this country.

We'll use that number as the basis for both arguments.

There are roughly 42M blacks in the US,

So 5% of the black population was arrested last year. 5% proves that blacks are not systemically criminal. I'm sure you would agree. It's not like 50% of blacks are breaking the law, it's actually a very lower number. Whites are around 2.5%, Asians, around 1%. Relatively speaking all are very small numbers, and of course we'd like to see lower figures, but the reality is when you have a free society, you're going to have more criminal behavior. Not much you can do about that.

Now, let's look at the 1,000 deaths. Even if every single one of them were black, you would be talking about less than .5% of blacks arrested by cops last year were killed by those cops. if you figure the real numbers, and see that we're talking about 1,000 deaths in 11M arrests. that's less than 1/10th of percent.

So unless you are prepared to argue that 5% of blacks being arrested proves that blacks are systemic criminals there is no logical way you can reach the conclusion that .01% of arrests ending in the suspect being killed by police proves that we have systemic police brutality in this country.

And of course there is the anecdotal evidence that proves the lie. If this country was so racist, and Democrats cared as much about black and brown people as they say they do , they would NOT be encouraging the daily deluge of black and brown people who come to this country looking for safety , even at the risk of their own lives.

This is a made up bullshit argument by Democrats who know that their voters are stupid. Plain and simple.

Your entire line of reasoning based is based on a racist system of violent over policing, so ALL of the numbers used are skewed to the excessive number of police interactions with minorities are heavily skewed against minorities.

White kids have their pot confiscated and are sent on their way. White kids have a future and we don't want their "boys will be boys behaviour" to hamper their job and education prospects for the rest of their lives, just over a little weed. Young blacks and young white use marijuana at about the same rates.

Black kids get arrested for the same thing.

View attachment 348009View attachment 348009

Black people are 13% of the population but commit 52% of the murders in America.

Table 21

ucr.fbi.gov

Generation poverty, unemployment, underemployment, poor schools, segregation and the fact that young Black men get far harsher prison sentences for the crime committed than any other race in the country takes its toll on a population.

This has all been going on for years and still is

Some folks make excuses for why something can't be done and others just do it.

Yeah some poor Black kid can just snap his fingers and make the school he has to attend better or can just wish that his father wasn't waiting 3 years in prison for a trial because he was denied bail for petty drug possession where any white dude would have got bail or had the charges dropped.

That is systemic racism.

Who controls schools? Oh that's right the same people who control the justice system. LIBERALS

How dumb do you have to be to not see that?

Not nearly as dumb as you have to be to believe this bullshit. You'd do well to take a course in history and fact checking before posting. People like me have been dismantling those lies since you were wearing diapers.

The police union has NEVER supported the Democratic Party - not since Nixon ran for office. The police union has barely tolerated Democratic Administrations period. They have used Reagan era justice reforms to hammer the black communities and rely on generations of Republican administraitons to provide them with military hardware, and every increasing resources, even as crime rates continue to drop. Republicans have also been good at defending police from accountability, and helped protect the "bad apples".

How Police Unions Became Such Powerful Opponents to Reform Efforts (Published 2020)

Half a decade after a spate of officer-involved deaths inspired widespread protest, many police unions are digging in to defend members.

www.nytimes.com

Who controls the schools? The State governments, most of which have been Republican controlled since Reagan, control the schools. They establish the state cirriculum and testing, as well as controlling which text books are to be used to teach the syllabus.

The right fuels all of these lies about public schools, because they don't want to be taxed to educate the children of minorities. Charter and "Christian" Schools, being private institutions, are free to discrimminate on the basis of race. Republicans are diverting tax dollars by way of "vouchera" to these schools, which masquerade segregation as "freedom of religion" and "choice".

There are numerous middle class and wealthy neighbourhoods within low income urban areas who have actually incorporated as mini-towns within these cities, in order to ensure that their property tax dollars are ONLY spent on their white children, and not on multiracial schools within their cities.

The Justice System is controlled by the Federal government, and is the least liberal department in the Federal government. All of the people who investigated Donald Trump were Republicans: Comey, McCabe, Mueller, Rosenstein. Theyre all Republicans. As are most of the judges appointed in the last 40 years.

Even your insult game is weak. I would engage you in a battle of wits but I consider it unsporting to do battle with someone who is completely unarmed.

 

[Dragonlady]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Start a debate. Do you think it's OK for cops and vigilantes to shoot unarmed black people?

It’s not okay for cops to shoot anyone unarmed, unless they are physically threatening.

How "physically threatening" do you have to be for the police to be allowed to shoot you? Define "physically threatening", because I've noticed that a lot of the black men that police kill are big guys. Big black men talking back to them, asking questions, like "What did I do?" "What's going on?" That's what passes for "resisting arrest".

 

[JustAGuy1]

It's quite simple, if a "White" man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is "Racist". It really is just that simple.

Who told you BLM was about that?

I'm not limiting it to BLM.

What do you mean? You want to put anyone who is black in your debate? Everyone should stereotype for you and like you?

You aren't very good at this. My statement is true, more than not feel just that way.
ESPECIALLY the resident black posters here.

If he isn't very good at this, you're even worse.

"If a 'White' man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is 'Racist'." This is a racist statement. You follow that with "My statement is true, more than not feel just that way". While your statement is NOT true, you are correct that many (not most) people feel that way. This is proof that systemic racism is a serious problem in America.

I know that's not what you thought you were proving, but with your standard conservative pretzel logic, you manage to shoot yourself in the foot. Every. Single. Time.

It is true and you're an idiot.I've never shot myself in ay foot honey. Go peddle your "White Guilt" elsewhere.

I'm not "peddling" anything. I'm just pointing out your "truth" which you acknowledge is widely believed, is not only a fallacy, but a racist fallacy at that. Thank you for acknowledging that racism is wide spread and systemic. It's a beginning. The next step is to acknowledge that it's harming the WHOLE nation, and not just black people.

It's neither widespread nor systemic.

Imagine if someone stupidly said "based on the stats, we can see that blacks are just systemtically criminals" it isn't true.

Just using YOUR numbers, let's say 1000 Americans were killed by police in this country and assume that each of them was due to bad behavior by the police, and we'll even assume 100% of them were black so that we can come up with the most generous numbers to your argument.

Last year there were roughly 2.2M black people arrested in this country.

We'll use that number as the basis for both arguments.

There are roughly 42M blacks in the US,

So 5% of the black population was arrested last year. 5% proves that blacks are not systemically criminal. I'm sure you would agree. It's not like 50% of blacks are breaking the law, it's actually a very lower number. Whites are around 2.5%, Asians, around 1%. Relatively speaking all are very small numbers, and of course we'd like to see lower figures, but the reality is when you have a free society, you're going to have more criminal behavior. Not much you can do about that.

Now, let's look at the 1,000 deaths. Even if every single one of them were black, you would be talking about less than .5% of blacks arrested by cops last year were killed by those cops. if you figure the real numbers, and see that we're talking about 1,000 deaths in 11M arrests. that's less than 1/10th of percent.

So unless you are prepared to argue that 5% of blacks being arrested proves that blacks are systemic criminals there is no logical way you can reach the conclusion that .01% of arrests ending in the suspect being killed by police proves that we have systemic police brutality in this country.

And of course there is the anecdotal evidence that proves the lie. If this country was so racist, and Democrats cared as much about black and brown people as they say they do , they would NOT be encouraging the daily deluge of black and brown people who come to this country looking for safety , even at the risk of their own lives.

This is a made up bullshit argument by Democrats who know that their voters are stupid. Plain and simple.

Your entire line of reasoning based is based on a racist system of violent over policing, so ALL of the numbers used are skewed to the excessive number of police interactions with minorities are heavily skewed against minorities.

White kids have their pot confiscated and are sent on their way. White kids have a future and we don't want their "boys will be boys behaviour" to hamper their job and education prospects for the rest of their lives, just over a little weed. Young blacks and young white use marijuana at about the same rates.

Black kids get arrested for the same thing.

View attachment 348009View attachment 348009

Black people are 13% of the population but commit 52% of the murders in America.

Table 21

ucr.fbi.gov

The two countries in the world who have practiced segregation, apartheid, and the systematic subjugation of the black population have two highest rates of black on black crime and murder. Quelle surprise.

Crime and violence are a by-product of poverty and discrimination, not race. You don't have these sky high rates of black on black crime and violence in countries without systemic segregation and discrimmination. The USA has a higher rate of murder than many black African countries. including Kenya, Angola, Rawanda and Somolia.

Every one of your bullshit racist conservative memes that say that blacks are dumber, lazier, and less responsible than white people can be demonstrated to be white privilege propaganda, that gullible fools like you eat up with a fork and spoon while enjoying your white privilege.

It's quite simple, if a "White" man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is "Racist". It really is just that simple.

Who told you BLM was about that?

I'm not limiting it to BLM.

What do you mean? You want to put anyone who is black in your debate? Everyone should stereotype for you and like you?

You aren't very good at this. My statement is true, more than not feel just that way.
ESPECIALLY the resident black posters here.

If he isn't very good at this, you're even worse.

"If a 'White' man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is 'Racist'." This is a racist statement. You follow that with "My statement is true, more than not feel just that way". While your statement is NOT true, you are correct that many (not most) people feel that way. This is proof that systemic racism is a serious problem in America.

I know that's not what you thought you were proving, but with your standard conservative pretzel logic, you manage to shoot yourself in the foot. Every. Single. Time.

It is true and you're an idiot.I've never shot myself in ay foot honey. Go peddle your "White Guilt" elsewhere.

I'm not "peddling" anything. I'm just pointing out your "truth" which you acknowledge is widely believed, is not only a fallacy, but a racist fallacy at that. Thank you for acknowledging that racism is wide spread and systemic. It's a beginning. The next step is to acknowledge that it's harming the WHOLE nation, and not just black people.

It's neither widespread nor systemic.

Imagine if someone stupidly said "based on the stats, we can see that blacks are just systemtically criminals" it isn't true.

Just using YOUR numbers, let's say 1000 Americans were killed by police in this country and assume that each of them was due to bad behavior by the police, and we'll even assume 100% of them were black so that we can come up with the most generous numbers to your argument.

Last year there were roughly 2.2M black people arrested in this country.

We'll use that number as the basis for both arguments.

There are roughly 42M blacks in the US,

So 5% of the black population was arrested last year. 5% proves that blacks are not systemically criminal. I'm sure you would agree. It's not like 50% of blacks are breaking the law, it's actually a very lower number. Whites are around 2.5%, Asians, around 1%. Relatively speaking all are very small numbers, and of course we'd like to see lower figures, but the reality is when you have a free society, you're going to have more criminal behavior. Not much you can do about that.

Now, let's look at the 1,000 deaths. Even if every single one of them were black, you would be talking about less than .5% of blacks arrested by cops last year were killed by those cops. if you figure the real numbers, and see that we're talking about 1,000 deaths in 11M arrests. that's less than 1/10th of percent.

So unless you are prepared to argue that 5% of blacks being arrested proves that blacks are systemic criminals there is no logical way you can reach the conclusion that .01% of arrests ending in the suspect being killed by police proves that we have systemic police brutality in this country.

And of course there is the anecdotal evidence that proves the lie. If this country was so racist, and Democrats cared as much about black and brown people as they say they do , they would NOT be encouraging the daily deluge of black and brown people who come to this country looking for safety , even at the risk of their own lives.

This is a made up bullshit argument by Democrats who know that their voters are stupid. Plain and simple.

Your entire line of reasoning based is based on a racist system of violent over policing, so ALL of the numbers used are skewed to the excessive number of police interactions with minorities are heavily skewed against minorities.

White kids have their pot confiscated and are sent on their way. White kids have a future and we don't want their "boys will be boys behaviour" to hamper their job and education prospects for the rest of their lives, just over a little weed. Young blacks and young white use marijuana at about the same rates.

Black kids get arrested for the same thing.

View attachment 348009View attachment 348009

Black people are 13% of the population but commit 52% of the murders in America.

Table 21

ucr.fbi.gov

Generation poverty, unemployment, underemployment, poor schools, segregation and the fact that young Black men get far harsher prison sentences for the crime committed than any other race in the country takes its toll on a population.

This has all been going on for years and still is

Some folks make excuses for why something can't be done and others just do it.

Yeah some poor Black kid can just snap his fingers and make the school he has to attend better or can just wish that his father wasn't waiting 3 years in prison for a trial because he was denied bail for petty drug possession where any white dude would have got bail or had the charges dropped.

That is systemic racism.

Who controls schools? Oh that's right the same people who control the justice system. LIBERALS

How dumb do you have to be to not see that?

Not nearly as dumb as you have to be to believe this bullshit. You'd do well to take a course in history and fact checking before posting. People like me have been dismantling those lies since you were wearing diapers.

The police union has NEVER supported the Democratic Party - not since Nixon ran for office. The police union has barely tolerated Democratic Administrations period. They have used Reagan era justice reforms to hammer the black communities and rely on generations of Republican administraitons to provide them with military hardware, and every increasing resources, even as crime rates continue to drop. Republicans have also been good at defending police from accountability, and helped protect the "bad apples".

How Police Unions Became Such Powerful Opponents to Reform Efforts (Published 2020)

Half a decade after a spate of officer-involved deaths inspired widespread protest, many police unions are digging in to defend members.

www.nytimes.com

Who controls the schools? The State governments, most of which have been Republican controlled since Reagan, control the schools. They establish the state cirriculum and testing, as well as controlling which text books are to be used to teach the syllabus.

The right fuels all of these lies about public schools, because they don't want to be taxed to educate the children of minorities. Charter and "Christian" Schools, being private institutions, are free to discrimminate on the basis of race. Republicans are diverting tax dollars by way of "vouchera" to these schools, which masquerade segregation as "freedom of religion" and "choice".

There are numerous middle class and wealthy neighbourhoods within low income urban areas who have actually incorporated as mini-towns within these cities, in order to ensure that their property tax dollars are ONLY spent on their white children, and not on multiracial schools within their cities.

The Justice System is controlled by the Federal government, and is the least liberal department in the Federal government. All of the people who investigated Donald Trump were Republicans: Comey, McCabe, Mueller, Rosenstein. Theyre all Republicans. As are most of the judges appointed in the last 40 years.

Even your insult game is weak. I would engage you in a battle of wits but I consider it unsporting to do battle with someone who is completely unarmed.

Boys what we have here is what you call a black sheep. Tell us honey, where did Common Core come from and hat did they use to get the education system go along with it?

"There are numerous middle class and wealthy neighbourhoods within low income urban areas who have actually incorporated as mini-towns within these cities, in order to ensure that their property tax dollars are ONLY spent on their white children, and not on multiracial schools within their cities."

Prove it.

" Republicans are diverting tax dollars by way of "vouchera" to these schools, which masquerade segregation as "freedom of religion" and "choice". "


" According to a 2017 review of the economics literature on school vouchers, "the evidence to date is not sufficient to warrant recommending that vouchers be adopted on a widespread basis; however, multiple positive findings support continued exploration."[2] A 2006 survey of members of American Economic Association found that over two-thirds of economists support giving parents educational vouchers that can be used at government-operated or privately operated schools, and that support is greater if the vouchers are to be used by parents with low-incomes or parents with children in poorly performing schools.[3] "

You're a liar, they are hardly used at all.

"
Long alliance of Democrats and police union erodes

Long alliance of Democrats and police union erodes

The decades-long alliance between Democratic politicians and police unions has been eroded, as two legislative battles illustrate.

calmatters.org

Once again you are a liar

 

[Blues Man]

It's quite simple, if a "White" man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is "Racist". It really is just that simple.

Who told you BLM was about that?

I'm not limiting it to BLM.

What do you mean? You want to put anyone who is black in your debate? Everyone should stereotype for you and like you?

You aren't very good at this. My statement is true, more than not feel just that way.
ESPECIALLY the resident black posters here.

If he isn't very good at this, you're even worse.

"If a 'White' man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is 'Racist'." This is a racist statement. You follow that with "My statement is true, more than not feel just that way". While your statement is NOT true, you are correct that many (not most) people feel that way. This is proof that systemic racism is a serious problem in America.

I know that's not what you thought you were proving, but with your standard conservative pretzel logic, you manage to shoot yourself in the foot. Every. Single. Time.

It is true and you're an idiot.I've never shot myself in ay foot honey. Go peddle your "White Guilt" elsewhere.

I'm not "peddling" anything. I'm just pointing out your "truth" which you acknowledge is widely believed, is not only a fallacy, but a racist fallacy at that. Thank you for acknowledging that racism is wide spread and systemic. It's a beginning. The next step is to acknowledge that it's harming the WHOLE nation, and not just black people.

It's neither widespread nor systemic.

Imagine if someone stupidly said "based on the stats, we can see that blacks are just systemtically criminals" it isn't true.

Just using YOUR numbers, let's say 1000 Americans were killed by police in this country and assume that each of them was due to bad behavior by the police, and we'll even assume 100% of them were black so that we can come up with the most generous numbers to your argument.

Last year there were roughly 2.2M black people arrested in this country.

We'll use that number as the basis for both arguments.

There are roughly 42M blacks in the US,

So 5% of the black population was arrested last year. 5% proves that blacks are not systemically criminal. I'm sure you would agree. It's not like 50% of blacks are breaking the law, it's actually a very lower number. Whites are around 2.5%, Asians, around 1%. Relatively speaking all are very small numbers, and of course we'd like to see lower figures, but the reality is when you have a free society, you're going to have more criminal behavior. Not much you can do about that.

Now, let's look at the 1,000 deaths. Even if every single one of them were black, you would be talking about less than .5% of blacks arrested by cops last year were killed by those cops. if you figure the real numbers, and see that we're talking about 1,000 deaths in 11M arrests. that's less than 1/10th of percent.

So unless you are prepared to argue that 5% of blacks being arrested proves that blacks are systemic criminals there is no logical way you can reach the conclusion that .01% of arrests ending in the suspect being killed by police proves that we have systemic police brutality in this country.

And of course there is the anecdotal evidence that proves the lie. If this country was so racist, and Democrats cared as much about black and brown people as they say they do , they would NOT be encouraging the daily deluge of black and brown people who come to this country looking for safety , even at the risk of their own lives.

This is a made up bullshit argument by Democrats who know that their voters are stupid. Plain and simple.

Your entire line of reasoning based is based on a racist system of violent over policing, so ALL of the numbers used are skewed to the excessive number of police interactions with minorities are heavily skewed against minorities.

White kids have their pot confiscated and are sent on their way. White kids have a future and we don't want their "boys will be boys behaviour" to hamper their job and education prospects for the rest of their lives, just over a little weed. Young blacks and young white use marijuana at about the same rates.

Black kids get arrested for the same thing.

View attachment 348009View attachment 348009

Black people are 13% of the population but commit 52% of the murders in America.

Table 21

ucr.fbi.gov

Generation poverty, unemployment, underemployment, poor schools, segregation and the fact that young Black men get far harsher prison sentences for the crime committed than any other race in the country takes its toll on a population.

This has all been going on for years and still is

Some folks make excuses for why something can't be done and others just do it.

Yeah some poor Black kid can just snap his fingers and make the school he has to attend better or can just wish that his father wasn't waiting 3 years in prison for a trial because he was denied bail for petty drug possession where any white dude would have got bail or had the charges dropped.

That is systemic racism.

Who controls schools? Oh that's right the same people who control the justice system. LIBERALS

How dumb do you have to be to not see that?

OK so you think conservatives would have done a better job?

How dumb do you have to be to think that?

I have no idea if conservatives would have done a better job or not. And I didn't say what you just dishonestly claimed I did.

What I DO know is that you morons keep supporting people who are the problem while screaming about people who haven't had anything to do with running those cities in decades.

I asked you a question shitforbrains

In case you didn't know a question is neither a statement nor a claim and you have no fucking clue who I support and who i don't but if you want to make an ass of yourself by assuming go ahead

 

[Blues Man]

Another point leftists should consider is that they have gone full little boy who cried wolf too many times.

You can't have the same exact reaction when a Michael Brown beats the shit out of a cop, tries several times to get ahold of his gun and then charges him like an enraged bull before getting shot as you do for a george floyd who clearly WAS a victim of police abuse time after fucking time and then wonder why people are just sick of hearing from you and start not giving a fuck who did what to whom. They are just sick of the reactions.

You guys do it with EVERYTHING . Maybe once in awhile if one of you idiots would opine "hey why is everyone on the left tearing Trump up over this? It's not a big deal" then the rest of us wouldn't feel compelled to ignore your asses when you actually do have a legit complaint.

And we won't even mention the fact that each and every one of you retards have been ignoring police state abuse for years because TRUMP!!!!! Oops, I guess I brought it up after all.

I personalty could never stomach the level of dishonesty it takes to be a leftist these days.

It's only crying wolf when there is no video evidence.

How does the Michael Brown event have anything to do with the George Floyd event? You seem to acknowledge there is a difference

Most people know there is a difference which is why the killing of George Floyd garnered the support it has where there was really only a local response to Brown's killing because people could see the difference in the two cases

LOL okay I guess I dreamed all the "protesting" around the country due to Brown. The same idiots in Congress who are now kneeling while wearing Kunta Kinte clothes weren't out chanting "hands up don't shoot" I imagined all that.

How dumb.

It was nowhere near what the Floyd protests have been.

How dumb to think they are the same

What's dumb is not being to just say "yeah fair point, once in awhile liberals should just say "hey that was justified"

Moron.

I don't speak for liberals.

What point the 2 events had very different outcomes.

One had a much greater response that actually spread across borders to other countries. The other was mostly local

 

[Blues Man]

It's quite simple, if a "White" man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is "Racist". It really is just that simple.

Who told you BLM was about that?

I'm not limiting it to BLM.

What do you mean? You want to put anyone who is black in your debate? Everyone should stereotype for you and like you?

You aren't very good at this. My statement is true, more than not feel just that way.
ESPECIALLY the resident black posters here.

If he isn't very good at this, you're even worse.

"If a 'White' man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is 'Racist'." This is a racist statement. You follow that with "My statement is true, more than not feel just that way". While your statement is NOT true, you are correct that many (not most) people feel that way. This is proof that systemic racism is a serious problem in America.

I know that's not what you thought you were proving, but with your standard conservative pretzel logic, you manage to shoot yourself in the foot. Every. Single. Time.

It is true and you're an idiot.I've never shot myself in ay foot honey. Go peddle your "White Guilt" elsewhere.

I'm not "peddling" anything. I'm just pointing out your "truth" which you acknowledge is widely believed, is not only a fallacy, but a racist fallacy at that. Thank you for acknowledging that racism is wide spread and systemic. It's a beginning. The next step is to acknowledge that it's harming the WHOLE nation, and not just black people.

It's neither widespread nor systemic.

Imagine if someone stupidly said "based on the stats, we can see that blacks are just systemtically criminals" it isn't true.

Just using YOUR numbers, let's say 1000 Americans were killed by police in this country and assume that each of them was due to bad behavior by the police, and we'll even assume 100% of them were black so that we can come up with the most generous numbers to your argument.

Last year there were roughly 2.2M black people arrested in this country.

We'll use that number as the basis for both arguments.

There are roughly 42M blacks in the US,

So 5% of the black population was arrested last year. 5% proves that blacks are not systemically criminal. I'm sure you would agree. It's not like 50% of blacks are breaking the law, it's actually a very lower number. Whites are around 2.5%, Asians, around 1%. Relatively speaking all are very small numbers, and of course we'd like to see lower figures, but the reality is when you have a free society, you're going to have more criminal behavior. Not much you can do about that.

Now, let's look at the 1,000 deaths. Even if every single one of them were black, you would be talking about less than .5% of blacks arrested by cops last year were killed by those cops. if you figure the real numbers, and see that we're talking about 1,000 deaths in 11M arrests. that's less than 1/10th of percent.

So unless you are prepared to argue that 5% of blacks being arrested proves that blacks are systemic criminals there is no logical way you can reach the conclusion that .01% of arrests ending in the suspect being killed by police proves that we have systemic police brutality in this country.

And of course there is the anecdotal evidence that proves the lie. If this country was so racist, and Democrats cared as much about black and brown people as they say they do , they would NOT be encouraging the daily deluge of black and brown people who come to this country looking for safety , even at the risk of their own lives.

This is a made up bullshit argument by Democrats who know that their voters are stupid. Plain and simple.

Your entire line of reasoning based is based on a racist system of violent over policing, so ALL of the numbers used are skewed to the excessive number of police interactions with minorities are heavily skewed against minorities.

White kids have their pot confiscated and are sent on their way. White kids have a future and we don't want their "boys will be boys behaviour" to hamper their job and education prospects for the rest of their lives, just over a little weed. Young blacks and young white use marijuana at about the same rates.

Black kids get arrested for the same thing.

View attachment 348009View attachment 348009

Black people are 13% of the population but commit 52% of the murders in America.

Table 21

ucr.fbi.gov

Generation poverty, unemployment, underemployment, poor schools, segregation and the fact that young Black men get far harsher prison sentences for the crime committed than any other race in the country takes its toll on a population.

This has all been going on for years and still is

No, it isn’t always fair. But is it as widespread as you make it? Money talks. Black or white, if your family has money, you likely get off easier. Is it apples to apples? If someone is a repeat offender, they will probably get a harsher punishment. If someone is caught with a little weed in his pocket, he will get off easier than someone with a pound.

It really is pretty widespread and it has gone on for generations.

 

[Flopper]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

What is there agenda?

This is from their website which does not sound unreasonable unless you're a confirmed white supremacist.
We’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic, and political power to thrive.

 

[MizMolly]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

Start a debate. Do you think it's OK for cops and vigilantes to shoot unarmed black people?

It’s not okay for cops to shoot anyone unarmed, unless they are physically threatening.

How "physically threatening" do you have to be for the police to be allowed to shoot you? Define "physically threatening", because I've noticed that a lot of the black men that police kill are big guys. Big black men talking back to them, asking questions, like "What did I do?" "What's going on?" That's what passes for "resisting arrest".

I am talking about a big guy, any race, coming toward a cop in a threatening manner. Anyone in that position would try to defend themselves.

 

[MizMolly]

It's quite simple, if a "White" man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is "Racist". It really is just that simple.

Who told you BLM was about that?

I'm not limiting it to BLM.

What do you mean? You want to put anyone who is black in your debate? Everyone should stereotype for you and like you?

You aren't very good at this. My statement is true, more than not feel just that way.
ESPECIALLY the resident black posters here.

If he isn't very good at this, you're even worse.

"If a 'White' man disagrees with ANYTHING a person of color wants or thinks he is 'Racist'." This is a racist statement. You follow that with "My statement is true, more than not feel just that way". While your statement is NOT true, you are correct that many (not most) people feel that way. This is proof that systemic racism is a serious problem in America.

I know that's not what you thought you were proving, but with your standard conservative pretzel logic, you manage to shoot yourself in the foot. Every. Single. Time.

It is true and you're an idiot.I've never shot myself in ay foot honey. Go peddle your "White Guilt" elsewhere.

I'm not "peddling" anything. I'm just pointing out your "truth" which you acknowledge is widely believed, is not only a fallacy, but a racist fallacy at that. Thank you for acknowledging that racism is wide spread and systemic. It's a beginning. The next step is to acknowledge that it's harming the WHOLE nation, and not just black people.

It's neither widespread nor systemic.

Imagine if someone stupidly said "based on the stats, we can see that blacks are just systemtically criminals" it isn't true.

Just using YOUR numbers, let's say 1000 Americans were killed by police in this country and assume that each of them was due to bad behavior by the police, and we'll even assume 100% of them were black so that we can come up with the most generous numbers to your argument.

Last year there were roughly 2.2M black people arrested in this country.

We'll use that number as the basis for both arguments.

There are roughly 42M blacks in the US,

So 5% of the black population was arrested last year. 5% proves that blacks are not systemically criminal. I'm sure you would agree. It's not like 50% of blacks are breaking the law, it's actually a very lower number. Whites are around 2.5%, Asians, around 1%. Relatively speaking all are very small numbers, and of course we'd like to see lower figures, but the reality is when you have a free society, you're going to have more criminal behavior. Not much you can do about that.

Now, let's look at the 1,000 deaths. Even if every single one of them were black, you would be talking about less than .5% of blacks arrested by cops last year were killed by those cops. if you figure the real numbers, and see that we're talking about 1,000 deaths in 11M arrests. that's less than 1/10th of percent.

So unless you are prepared to argue that 5% of blacks being arrested proves that blacks are systemic criminals there is no logical way you can reach the conclusion that .01% of arrests ending in the suspect being killed by police proves that we have systemic police brutality in this country.

And of course there is the anecdotal evidence that proves the lie. If this country was so racist, and Democrats cared as much about black and brown people as they say they do , they would NOT be encouraging the daily deluge of black and brown people who come to this country looking for safety , even at the risk of their own lives.

This is a made up bullshit argument by Democrats who know that their voters are stupid. Plain and simple.

Your entire line of reasoning based is based on a racist system of violent over policing, so ALL of the numbers used are skewed to the excessive number of police interactions with minorities are heavily skewed against minorities.

White kids have their pot confiscated and are sent on their way. White kids have a future and we don't want their "boys will be boys behaviour" to hamper their job and education prospects for the rest of their lives, just over a little weed. Young blacks and young white use marijuana at about the same rates.

Black kids get arrested for the same thing.

View attachment 348009View attachment 348009

Black people are 13% of the population but commit 52% of the murders in America.

Table 21

ucr.fbi.gov

Generation poverty, unemployment, underemployment, poor schools, segregation and the fact that young Black men get far harsher prison sentences for the crime committed than any other race in the country takes its toll on a population.

This has all been going on for years and still is

No, it isn’t always fair. But is it as widespread as you make it? Money talks. Black or white, if your family has money, you likely get off easier. Is it apples to apples? If someone is a repeat offender, they will probably get a harsher punishment. If someone is caught with a little weed in his pocket, he will get off easier than someone with a pound.

It really is pretty widespread and it has gone on for generations.

Thats an assumption.

 

[MizMolly]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

The answer is simply really, they dwe on't want discussion because BLM exists to turn a molehill into a mountain.

Is it a damn shame that even one American is killed due to bad behavior of police? Of course it is, but what kind of outrage is going to develop if BLM , and others, just came out and said "looking at the facts, we have 50 americans killed by bad actors in police departments in this country last year, that's 50 too many?" The answer is "not much" so instead they gin up the numbers, and scream about "systemic racism" and then squelch all reasonable debate, because the reality is BLM , and others, KNOW we have the least racist, most careful police in the world , and facts prove this, so every dissent MUST be shut down before the actual facts can enter the discussion.

You have 1000 Americans killed by police every single year, even as crime numbers are declining. 47 of the people killed by police last year were unarmed. Police officers who are fired for excessive force just get hired somewhere else. The protections for police officers using force are such that racist assholes who just want to bully blacks and shouldn't be working in policing at all, are still on the force. Chauvin had 16 excessive force violations, and had previously killed another person before he murdered George Floyd.

In the first world, the police in other nations don't kill their citizens in anywhere near the numbers that American police do. You have the highest number of people incarcerated in the first world, even as crime goes down. Their police forces are militarized, and they live in the communities where they serve.

French police killed 26 people last year. In the UK, that number was 3 - and two of them were murdering, knife wielding terrorists on London Bridge. In Canada, that number was 8. Norway, and a number of other European nations, had 0. The violence by American police is out of control. Nowhere have we seen this more than in the attacks on peaceful protestors in the marches.

Makes one wonder why you people continue to support Democrats who have ran these cities and police departments for years, in many cases DECADES.

A current Democrat Senator who wanted to be President, and very well could end up being VP was the AG in Minnesota for years, how did she handle cases of police misconduct?

Klobuchar Ramped Up Prosecutions, Except in Cases Against Police (Published 2020)

The candidate has faced tough questions about a disputed murder conviction and her record of seeking stiff sentences while declining to prosecute police shootings.

www.nytimes.com

Why? Most likely because Police unions were stuffing her pockets with cash.

And of course you can just go on down the line , there are MANY Democrats like Amy Klobuchar.

No, you need to look at why Republicans keep losing these elections. Because your party is full of Rand Pauls who can't seem to agree with an anti lynching law.

Isnt murder against the law?

 

[anynameyouwish]

Why are people fired and silenced for not agreeing with the Black Lives Matter agenda?

Doesn’t it seem counter to the free speech culture we should have here?

Why does someone with a different political view have to be an ENEMY?

It’s because BLM really can’t defend their agenda, so they silence all dissenters. They will not enter into an actual discussion of reality and facts.

It’s so transparent.

The answer is simply really, they dwe on't want discussion because BLM exists to turn a molehill into a mountain.

Is it a damn shame that even one American is killed due to bad behavior of police? Of course it is, but what kind of outrage is going to develop if BLM , and others, just came out and said "looking at the facts, we have 50 americans killed by bad actors in police departments in this country last year, that's 50 too many?" The answer is "not much" so instead they gin up the numbers, and scream about "systemic racism" and then squelch all reasonable debate, because the reality is BLM , and others, KNOW we have the least racist, most careful police in the world , and facts prove this, so every dissent MUST be shut down before the actual facts can enter the discussion.

You have 1000 Americans killed by police every single year, even as crime numbers are declining. 47 of the people killed by police last year were unarmed. Police officers who are fired for excessive force just get hired somewhere else. The protections for police officers using force are such that racist assholes who just want to bully blacks and shouldn't be working in policing at all, are still on the force. Chauvin had 16 excessive force violations, and had previously killed another person before he murdered George Floyd.

In the first world, the police in other nations don't kill their citizens in anywhere near the numbers that American police do. You have the highest number of people incarcerated in the first world, even as crime goes down. Their police forces are militarized, and they live in the communities where they serve.

French police killed 26 people last year. In the UK, that number was 3 - and two of them were murdering, knife wielding terrorists on London Bridge. In Canada, that number was 8. Norway, and a number of other European nations, had 0. The violence by American police is out of control. Nowhere have we seen this more than in the attacks on peaceful protestors in the marches.

Makes one wonder why you people continue to support Democrats who have ran these cities and police departments for years, in many cases DECADES.

A current Democrat Senator who wanted to be President, and very well could end up being VP was the AG in Minnesota for years, how did she handle cases of police misconduct?

Klobuchar Ramped Up Prosecutions, Except in Cases Against Police (Published 2020)

The candidate has faced tough questions about a disputed murder conviction and her record of seeking stiff sentences while declining to prosecute police shootings.

www.nytimes.com

Why? Most likely because Police unions were stuffing her pockets with cash.

And of course you can just go on down the line , there are MANY Democrats like Amy Klobuchar.

No, you need to look at why Republicans keep losing these elections. Because your party is full of Rand Pauls who can't seem to agree with an anti lynching law.

he wants to tweak the law; to read......"you can't lynch conservative white christians but everyone else is fair game"

I imagine millions of trump supporting pieces of human garbage have stock piles of rope (for lynching purposes) next to their guns and ammo

they are, after all, not JUST human garbage....they are also blood thirsty murderers

 

[Kondor3]

Why doesn’t Black Lives Matter welcome robust debate with people who disagree?

"Only weaklings suffer no criticism." - Franz von Papen, Marburg University, Germany, June 17, 1934

Applies equally to both BLM and the Orange Baboon-God.