Why don't people want to know the truth about 9/11?

[eots]

This is exactly what I'm saying. Don't you think they'd have been making absolutely sure that this "information" and "documents" were indeed destroyed?

why would you think they didn't ?.....fires and other destruction is hardly an unheard of way of covering a crime

It just absolutely makes no sense for the government to have destroyed building 7. There are plenty of other government targets they could have destroyed.

there is a difference between something making no sense and not knowing the motivation

And if the government is so secretive and savvy, they wouldn't have created so much paperwork or digital information to have to destroy

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of course the CIA and major banking institutor's are going to generate a lot of data and of course there may be elements that may benefit greatly from the theft or destruction of that evidence

THey would have done it under the rug, therefore making it unnecessary to destroy an entire building.

Again you can only speculate....this is why real fact driven investigations are done to find the answers..but none of this changes the facts there has been a massive cover-up into the events of 9/11 and the collapses and all the evidence suggest explosives played a role in the collapse of the towers and wtc 7

 

[BrianH]

why would you think they didn't ?.....fires and other destruction is hardly an unheard of way of covering a crime








there is a difference between something making no sense and not knowing the motivation


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of course the CIA and major banking institutor's are going to generate a lot of data and of course there may be elements that may benefit greatly from the theft or destruction of that evidence




Again you can only speculate....this is why real fact driven investigations are done to find the answers..but none of this changes the facts there has been a massive cover-up into the events of 9/11 and the collapses and all the evidence suggest explosives played a role in the collapse of the towers and wtc 7

With all due respect, you have yet to provide any real convincing evidence.

 

[britgyll]

If you read the wikipedia article about the truth about 9/11 article, it's pretty clear that the theories have been debunked. Even Bill Clinton and Noam Chomsky said the theories are not scientific.

 

[Rat in the Hat]

 

[KissMy]

No Controlled Demolition
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcrF346sS_I"]9/11 Conspiracy Theories[/ame]

 

[SFC Ollie]

Why did I know that eots would deny the engines? I guess a bunch of people in pickup trucks planted those engine parts without anyone seeing them.

And Eots, the engine parts at the pentagon have been positively identified as coming from a Boeing 757-223.

Now since you have never been able to give a good answer to the inward bowing of the WTC towers, let us try another question.

Why is it in all the truther videos that they start the time of collapse of building 7 when the main roof begins to fall instead of 9 seconds earlier when the first penthouse fell into the interior of the building? Must not fit into the free fall BS.

 

[miller]

This is exactly what I'm saying. Don't you think they'd have been making absolutely sure that this "information" and "documents" were indeed destroyed? When we lose an aircraft, we send a unit out to completely destroy it so our technology doesn't get stolen. If the government is willing to risk lives to destroy evidence in other countries, their certainly not going to forego making sure that evidence was destroyed in building 7...if there was said "evidence" that is.

It just absolutely makes no sense for the government to have destroyed building 7. There are plenty of other government targets they could have destroyed.
And if the government is so secretive and savvy, they wouldn't have created so much paperwork or digital information to have to destroy. THey would have done it under the rug, therefore making it unnecessary to destroy an entire building.

Now it has to make sense. Nothing you conservative assholes write ever makes sense. Bush wanted 2 wars and he got 2 wars, both from 9/11. Does that make sense?

There are only the same 7 conservatives who keep writing nothing on here. Where are the other 18,000 members?

 

[DiveCon]

Now it has to make sense. Nothing you conservative assholes write ever makes sense. Bush wanted 2 wars and he got 2 wars, both from 9/11. Does that make sense?

There are only the same 7 conservatives who keep writing nothing on here. Where are the other 18,000 members?

they dont give a shit
thats where they are

for us, you are an easy target for ridicule

 

[LA RAM FAN]

BASED OF NEWTONS 3rd LAW OF EQUAL AND OPPOSITE REACTION:

With Gravity

A small Box (same object) cannot Crush a BIGGER box (same object) in ACCELERATION, let alone at all.

30 floors of WTC (the SAME object) cannot CRUSH 70 floors of WTC (the SAME object). LET ALONE AT ACCELERATION.

it's this basic, and you cannot even understand it.........................

He sure cant.these OCTA'S like Brian and wicked,dont get it that to accept the governments version of events,you got to ignore the laws of physics that scientists have gone by for thousands of years.they obviously slept through juniour high science classes.

I'm not accepting the government's version. I think they knew more than they let on. Do I think they did it? lol. No. This conspiracy has been debunked over and over again by top engineers. (You'll say they are government hired engineers--typical)

as usual,your full of shit because it has NOT been debunked.you are too ignorant to know that these engineers that say so, have government contracts who wont get future work if they go along with their version of events. again you slept through science class because the ONLY thing thats been debunked is the version of the governments.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Yep!

Or, at least fly a scale model 757 full speed, fully loaded with fuel and lil' pasengers, light it on fire until BIG BOXES structure is fully weakened, and then drop LIL' BOX on BIG BOX.

C'mon eots, you have to know that video and demonstration if fuckin' laughable, and proves absolutely nothing.

Anybody who thinks otherwise is a gullible fool.

do you really think if you a cup of kerosene on a concrete and steel box that it would weaken considerable ?...I dont

Yes, after a fully loaded, fully fueled 757 rams into it full speed, and the fires continue to burn red hot for an hour and a half.

Again, that video and demonstration are friggin' ridiculous.

And the fact that someone who claims to know about physics posted it, makes it beyond laughable, to friggin' hysterical.

you have still yet to debunk that video of mine and oh,that professor at that university will lose his job if he doesnt go along with the governments version the same way Steven Jones and others have.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Why do people want to fool themselves about anything?

They already know the truth, Abdulha. People just aren't interested in your pathetic lies.

 

[DiveCon]

do you really think if you a cup of kerosene on a concrete and steel box that it would weaken considerable ?...I dont

Yes, after a fully loaded, fully fueled 757 rams into it full speed, and the fires continue to burn red hot for an hour and a half.

Again, that video and demonstration are friggin' ridiculous.

And the fact that someone who claims to know about physics posted it, makes it beyond laughable, to friggin' hysterical.

you have still yet to debunk that video of mine and oh,that professor at that university will lose his job if he doesnt go along with the governments version the same way Steven Jones and others have.

the reason they lose their jobs is NO ONE want an insane troofer fucktard teaching their children

 

[LA RAM FAN]

really? ALL?

yes all...no less than two former presidents and several former u.s air-crash investigators have signed the petitions....so how many former presidents of the u.s air crash investigation board are alive today in America ?..how many directors of advanced space program directors do you think there are in thr U.S ??...and why are these facts never mentioned in any debwunker video or news cast ???

I'm not familiar with these positions or the petition they signed so I can't respond to this.

yeah just like your not familiar with junior high school science.

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Col. George Nelson, MBA, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Former U.S. Air Force aircraft accident investigator and airplane parts authority. Graduate, U.S. Air Force War College. 34-year Air Force career.

Licensed commercial pilot. Licensed airframe and powerplant mechanic.
Essay: "In all my years of direct and indirect participation, I never witnessed nor even heard of an aircraft loss, where the wreckage was accessible, that prevented investigators from finding enough hard evidence to positively identify the make, model, and specific registration number of the aircraft -- and in most cases the precise cause of the accident. ...

The government alleges that four wide-body airliners crashed on the morning of September 11 2001, resulting in the deaths of more than 3,000 human beings, yet not one piece of hard aircraft evidence has been produced in an attempt to positively identify any of the four aircraft. On the contrary, it seems only that all potential evidence was deliberately kept hidden from public view.

With all the evidence readily available at the Pentagon crash site, any unbiased rational investigator could only conclude that a Boeing 757 did not fly into the Pentagon as alleged

Member: Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice Association Statement: "Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice is a non-partisan organization consisting of independent researchers and activists engaged in uncovering the true nature of the September 11, 2001 attacks."


Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very forthcoming with answers."


Member: Scientific Panel Investigating Nine-Eleven Association Statement: "We have found solid scientific grounds on which to question the interpretation put upon the events of September 11, 2001 by the Office of the President of the United States of America and subsequently propagated by the major media of western nations."
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Capt. Daniel Davis, U.S. Army – Former U.S. Army Air Defense Officer and NORAD Tac Director. Decorated with the Bronze Star and the Soldiers Medal for bravery under fire and the Purple Heart for injuries sustained in Viet Nam. Also served in the Army Air Defense Command as Nike Missile Battery Control Officer for the Chicago-Milwaukee Defense Area. Founder and former CEO of Turbine Technology Services Corp., a turbine (jet engine) services and maintenance company (15 years). Former Senior Manager at General Electric Turbine (jet) Engine Division (15 years). Private pilot.
Statement to this website 3/23/07: "As a former General Electric Turbine engineering specialist and manager and then CEO of a turbine engineering company, I can guarantee that none of the high tech, high temperature alloy engines on any of the four planes that crashed on 9/11 would be completely destroyed, burned, shattered or melted in any crash or fire. Wrecked, yes, but not destroyed. Where are all of those engines, particularly at the Pentagon? If jet powered aircraft crashed on 9/11, those engines, plus wings and tail assembly, would be there.

Additionally, in my experience as an officer in NORAD as a Tactical Director for the Chicago-Milwaukee Air Defense and as a current private pilot, there is no way that an aircraft on instrument flight plans (all commercial flights are IFR) would not be intercepted when they deviate from their flight plan, turn off their transponders, or stop communication with Air Traffic Control. No way! With very bad luck, perhaps one could slip by, but no there's no way all four of them could!

Finally, going over the hill and highway and crashing into the Pentagon right at the wall/ground interface is nearly impossible for even a small slow single engine airplane and no way for a 757. Maybe the best pilot in the world could accomplish that but not these unskilled "terrorists".

Attempts to obscure facts by calling them a "Conspiracy Theory" does not change the truth. It seems, "Something is rotten in the State

Lt. Col. David Gapp, U.S. Air Force (ret) – Retired Pilot and Qualified Aircraft Accident Investigator. Served as President, Aircraft Accident Board. Military aircraft flown: McDonnell Douglas F-4 Phantom, Cessna T-37 Dragonfly "Tweet", Northrup T-38 Talon. 3,000+ total hours flown. 31 years of U.S. Air Force service. One year as commercial pilot for Continental Airlines. Commercial aircraft flown: ATR-42.
Member: Pilots for 9/11 Truth Association Statement: "Pilots for 9/11 Truth is an organization of aviation professionals and pilots throughout the globe that have gathered together for one purpose. We are committed to seeking the truth surrounding the events of the 11th of September 2001. Our main focus concentrates on the four flights, maneuvers performed and the reported pilots. We do not offer theory or point blame. However, we are focused on determining the truth of that fateful day since the United States Government doesn't seem to be very forthcoming with answers




Lt. Cdr. Bernard J. Smith, U.S. Nay (ret) – Retired carrier Naval Aviator and former aircraft accident investigator.
Statement in support of Architects and Engineers petition:

"From my several years experience as an aircraft accident investigator for the U.S.Navy, I am appalled at the basic principles of investigation being ignored; ie, premature destruction of evidence, reliable eye witness accounts ignored, etc. To allow the official version to be the final word in this planned event, as is evident from the AE9/11 investigation, would be a major disservice to the victims and the nation." AE911Truth.org

Ah yes Colonel Nelson. He also believes that Oklahoma city bombing had pre planted explosives. "Oklahoma City Murrah building, where 168 men, women and babies were killed. A Pentagon study eventually concluded that five support columns were destroyed by pre-planted explosives, and coincidentally, no BATF employees had showed up
for work that morning. "

I thank the Good Col for his service but......... I would like to see this pentagon study.....

The evidence suggest he is correct ,but regardless notice how li lOllie ignores the rest and tries to fling shit at the one he feels he can on some other issue and then tries to invoke some emotional response by suggesting that questioning the event is some how being uncaring about babies that died...

thats the gomer for you and how he operates.

 

[eots]

Yes, after a fully loaded, fully fueled 757 rams into it full speed, and the fires continue to burn red hot for an hour and a half.

Again, that video and demonstration are friggin' ridiculous.

And the fact that someone who claims to know about physics posted it, makes it beyond laughable, to friggin' hysterical.

you have still yet to debunk that video of mine and oh,that professor at that university will lose his job if he doesnt go along with the governments version the same way Steven Jones and others have.

the reason they lose their jobs is NO ONE want an insane troofer fucktard teaching their children

or or building their buildings ? or getting government contracts ? it makes free speech or signing a petitions risky business doesn't it

 

[LA RAM FAN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t1WurLaoImE

I don't care how many credentials someone is professed to have, when they stand there and tell lies then they are talking politics & not facts.

None of the 4 buildings that collapsed on 9/11 fell at or near free-fall speeds!!!

In the collapse videos lighter debris is clearly falling twice as fast as the massively heavy buildings.

funny thats all the NIST and the media did is tell lies just like you are now.again this is for you dummy style.go to the top of a 110 story building,drop an object from that roof,it will fall at around 11 to 12 seconds,those towers collapsed in 11 seconds which=freefall speed.it really gets old calling you out on your outright lies you tell.

 

[DiveCon]

you have still yet to debunk that video of mine and oh,that professor at that university will lose his job if he doesnt go along with the governments version the same way Steven Jones and others have.

the reason they lose their jobs is NO ONE want an insane troofer fucktard teaching their children

or or building their buildings ? or getting government contracts ? it makes free speech or signing a petitions risky business doesn't it

i wouldnt hire any of those designers to build a dog house
if they actually believe the bullshit you ascribe to them

 

[LA RAM FAN]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_DuSeuxjiJQ

this is another video the OCTA'S can only sling shit in defeat on that explosives brought down bld 7 is Barry Jennings testimony.He is the smoking gun of bld 7 thats why the government got rid of him.

 

[eots]

divecunt hates us for our freedoms...

 

[LA RAM FAN]

Why do people want to fool themselves about anything?

They already know the truth, Abdulha. People just aren't interested in your pathetic lies.

hate to break your heart but the media and the government are the ones making up pathetic lies.