Why has "COMPROMISE" become a dirty word to Republican Conservatives?

[C_Clayton_Jones]

"Why has "COMPROMISE" become a dirty word to Republican Conservatives"

Because they're extremists and ideologues who adhere blindly to failed conservative dogma.

Wrong. It's because you and your felllow failed liberal socialist ideologues misuse the word itself.

This makes no sense whatsoever.

 

[healthmyths]

So DAD2Three...

Let me understand then when Barney Frank and Dodd said the following:
Many prominent Democrats,including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash,
"Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)

it really confuses me.

I mean based on ALL your refutation of my firm beliefs about Bush you said he was a hero to the poor, the lower income. So why would Frank,Dodd, et.al. bash Bush?
What was the purpose of their statements? Were the just grossly uninformed about Bush's concerns for the poor? What was their reason for defending the GSEs if
Bush also was doing everything possible to help the poor subprime people buy homes?

YEP, DUBYA HOSED F/F HOWEVER AS REGULATOR

Through the Republican Congress in 2003 and the Bush Administration's work through HUD and the FHA, the Bush Administration forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to, for the first time, make available riskier loan products to minority and low income buyers.

The Federal Housing Administration Mortgage Program.In 2002, the President issued America’s Homeownership Challenge to increase first-time minority homeowners by 5.5 million through 2010. The Federal Housing Administration (FHA) mortgage program is an important tool for reaching that goal. In 2006, 31 percent of those using FHA mortgages were minorities purchasing their first home. The 2008 Budget continues Administration efforts to modernize FHA by improving its ability to reach traditionally underserved homebuyers (aka those who do not normally qualify for loans), such as low- and moderate-income families, individuals with blemished credit, and families who have little savings for a down payment.

(From Bush Administration’s White House Press Release entitled, "Focusing on the Nation’s Priorities – Meeting America’s Housing Needs").

The Bush Administration through HUD, also required Fannie and Fredde to give a higher percentage of their loans to loan-income and minorities that otherwise would not qualify for the loans.




DUBYA:

That's why I've challenged the industry leaders all across the country to get after it for this goal, to stay focused, to make sure that we achieve a more secure America, by achieving the goal of 5.5 million new minority home owners. I call it America's home ownership challenge.

And let me talk about some of the progress which we have made to date, as an example for others to follow. First of all, government sponsored corporations that help create our mortgage system -- I introduced two of the leaders here today -- they call those people Fannie May and Freddie Mac, as well as the federal home loan banks, will increase their commitment to minority markets by more than $440 billion. (Applause.) I want to thank Leland and Franklin for that commitment. It's a commitment that conforms to their charters, as well, and also conforms to their hearts.

(From White House Speech archives – "President calls for Expanding Opportunities to Homeowners" at St. Paul AME Church in Atlanta, Georgia).



Then, the following press release was sent out:

Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO, Franklin D. Raines today joined President Bush and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary Mel Martinez, and other industry leaders and non-profit organizations, for a housing summit to promote the Administration's proposal to expand minority homeownership.
* * *
Fannie Mae's ten-point plan to help advance the Bush Administration's homeownership proposals was included in the Blueprint for the American Dream document released by HUD today.

The Blueprint for the American Dream that we unveiled today is the response to the `homeownership challenge' President Bush issued in June to increase minority homeownership," said HUD Secretary Mel Martinez. "Our partners, representing every segment of the affordable housing industry, are committed to working together to achieve the President's goal of adding 5.5 million new minority homeowners by the end of the decade."

In his February State of the Union address President Bush called for "broader homeownership, especially among minorities."


In June, President Bush challenged both the public and private sector to be a partner in his crusade to create 5.5 million new minority homeowners by the end of the decade.

Fannie Mae responded by committing $700 billion in home financing to 4.6 million minority households through 2009. This increases by 66 percent the specific pledge Fannie Mae made in 2000 to minority families through it's American Dream Commitment plan to provide $420 billion for three million minority families.

(quotes from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in Business Wire "President Bush’s Nationwide Effort to Increase Minority Homeownership" – October 15, 2002).


The Administration and Republican Congress also passed the "American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003 to allow low income and minorities with blemished credit and no ability to come up with a downpayment to have the government cover their downpayment and closing costs. The Act gave 161.5 million dollars in taxpayer money to cover the downpayment and closing costs of minorities and low income individuals that would not be able to afford a downpayment and/or had "blemished credit."



On December 16, 2003, President Bush signed into law the American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003, which will help approximately 40,000 families a year with their down payment and closing costs, and further strengthen America’s housing market. This legislation complements the President’s aggressive housing agenda announced in 2002 to dismantle the barriers to homeownership.

(From White House Press Release "American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003 – Expanding Homeownership Opportunities for All).

Bush also pushed and passed a "Zero-down Payment" initiative.

BUSH ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES NEW HUD "ZERO DOWN PAYMENT" MORTGAGE Initiative Aimed at Removing Major Barrier to Homeownership

LAS VEGAS - As part of President Bush's ongoing effort to help American families achieve the dream of homeownership, Federal Housing Commissioner John C. Weicher today announced that HUD is proposing to offer a "zero down payment" mortgage, the most significant initiative by the Federal Housing Administration in over a decade. This action would help remove the greatest barrier facing first-time homebuyers - the lack of funds for a down payment on a mortgage.
Speaking at the National Association of Home Builders' annual convention, Commissioner Weicher indicated that the proposal, part of HUD's Fiscal Year 2005 budget request, would eliminate the statutory requirement of a minimum three percent down payment for FHA-insured single-family mortgages for first-time homebuyers.

"Offering FHA mortgages with no down payment will unlock the door to homeownership for hundreds of thousands of American families, particularly minorities," said HUD's Acting Secretary Alphonso Jackson. "President Bush has pledged to create 5.5 million new minority homeowners this decade, and this historic initiative will help meet this goal."

Preliminary projections indicate that the new FHA mortgage product would generate about 150,000 homebuyers in the first year alone.
"This initiative would not only address a major hurdle to homeownership and allow many renters to afford their own home, it would help these families build wealth and become true stakeholders in their communities," said Commissioner Weicher. "In addition, it would help spur the production of new housing in this country."

The Administration, through HUD, further forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to offer riskier 3, 5, and 7 year arm loan products to low income and minorities.

BUSH ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES NEW ADJUSTABLE-RATE MORTGAGE PRODUCTS TO ENHANCE HOMEBUYING OPPORTUNITIES

40,000 More Families (A YEAR) Expected To Benefit From New Offerings


WASHINGTON – The Department of Housing and Urban Development is proposing to enhance homebuying opportunities by expanding its offerings of adjustable-rate mortgage (ARM) products on FHA-insured mortgages. Potential homebuyers would be able to choose mortgages with periods of three, five, seven or ten years, depending on their needs, during which time the interest rate would be fixed. "By offering additional types of FHA-insured ARMs tailored to the financial conditions and desires of the borrowers, we are creating more homeownership opportunities," said HUD Secretary Mel Martinez today in a speech to America’s Community Bankers. "We estimate that as many as 40,000 families a year will choose these new adjustable-rate mortgages as their way of financing their home purchase."

(HUD Press Release).

Bush and the Republican Congress forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make zero-down loans and adjustable rate 3, 5, and 7 year arms to the riskiest buyers. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were forced to effectively finance 103 percent of the mortgage (including closing costs).


EVEN WITH HOW DUBYA HOSED F/F


Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis
FACTS on Dubya's great recession | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So all you are doing is proving that Bush WANTED to help the poor! Wanted to help people get homes! WOW! BAD BAD BUSH!!!

 

[hadit]

Compromise requires both parties to give up something. The last time a small piece of the government stopped functioning, the House Republicans passed bills funding everything in the government except ONE program. Reid and Obama refused to compromise anything, choosing to shut down rather than hammer out a legislative compromise.

That's sadly hilarious and totally out of context. NaziCons try to legislate by "selectively" shutting down certain government programs important to Democrats and our Democratic president - then try to blame Democrats.

What's the missing context? There was ONE program in dispute, and ONE party willing to negotiate a compromise. There was no need for the other party to temporarily slow down government spending over the issue. Obviously, they had no desire to seek middle ground and accommodate.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

"Why has "COMPROMISE" become a dirty word to Republican Conservatives"

Because they're extremists and ideologues who adhere blindly to failed conservative dogma.

Wrong. It's because you and your fellow failed liberal socialist ideologues misuse the word itself.

This makes no sense whatsoever.

It does. Your ongoing inability to understand such matters speaks far more to your weak intellect and piss poor educational accomplishments.

But I'm here to help. Let's start things off very slowly for your greatest chance of ever catching on:

"Compromise" is a word. Words have meaning. The meaning of the word is also, often, somewhat dependent on the context in which it is used.

You liberals tend to ignorantly (although sometimes with full knowledge and conscious choice) misuse words. You do so for different reasons. Sometimes its because you really don't know that words have precise meanings (as opposed to the gibberish spin you put on them). Other times you simply CHOOSE to ignore the context in which the words may be used.

I realize you are having huge difficulty with this. Get a kindly adult to help you out.

 

[Dad2three]

So DAD2Three...

Let me understand then when Barney Frank and Dodd said the following:
Many prominent Democrats,including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash,
"Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)

it really confuses me.

I mean based on ALL your refutation of my firm beliefs about Bush you said he was a hero to the poor, the lower income. So why would Frank,Dodd, et.al. bash Bush?
What was the purpose of their statements? Were the just grossly uninformed about Bush's concerns for the poor? What was their reason for defending the GSEs if
Bush also was doing everything possible to help the poor subprime people buy homes?

YEP, DUBYA HOSED F/F HOWEVER AS REGULATOR

Through the Republican Congress in 2003 and the Bush Administration's work through HUD and the FHA, the Bush Administration forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to, for the first time, make available riskier loan products to minority and low income buyers.

The Federal Housing Administration Mortgage Program.In 2002, the President issued America’s Homeownership Challenge to increase first-time minority homeowners by 5.5 million through 2010. The Federal Housing Administration (FHA) mortgage program is an important tool for reaching that goal. In 2006, 31 percent of those using FHA mortgages were minorities purchasing their first home. The 2008 Budget continues Administration efforts to modernize FHA by improving its ability to reach traditionally underserved homebuyers (aka those who do not normally qualify for loans), such as low- and moderate-income families, individuals with blemished credit, and families who have little savings for a down payment.

(From Bush Administration’s White House Press Release entitled, "Focusing on the Nation’s Priorities – Meeting America’s Housing Needs").

The Bush Administration through HUD, also required Fannie and Fredde to give a higher percentage of their loans to loan-income and minorities that otherwise would not qualify for the loans.




DUBYA:

That's why I've challenged the industry leaders all across the country to get after it for this goal, to stay focused, to make sure that we achieve a more secure America, by achieving the goal of 5.5 million new minority home owners. I call it America's home ownership challenge.

And let me talk about some of the progress which we have made to date, as an example for others to follow. First of all, government sponsored corporations that help create our mortgage system -- I introduced two of the leaders here today -- they call those people Fannie May and Freddie Mac, as well as the federal home loan banks, will increase their commitment to minority markets by more than $440 billion. (Applause.) I want to thank Leland and Franklin for that commitment. It's a commitment that conforms to their charters, as well, and also conforms to their hearts.

(From White House Speech archives – "President calls for Expanding Opportunities to Homeowners" at St. Paul AME Church in Atlanta, Georgia).



Then, the following press release was sent out:

Fannie Mae Chairman and CEO, Franklin D. Raines today joined President Bush and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary Mel Martinez, and other industry leaders and non-profit organizations, for a housing summit to promote the Administration's proposal to expand minority homeownership.
* * *
Fannie Mae's ten-point plan to help advance the Bush Administration's homeownership proposals was included in the Blueprint for the American Dream document released by HUD today.

The Blueprint for the American Dream that we unveiled today is the response to the `homeownership challenge' President Bush issued in June to increase minority homeownership," said HUD Secretary Mel Martinez. "Our partners, representing every segment of the affordable housing industry, are committed to working together to achieve the President's goal of adding 5.5 million new minority homeowners by the end of the decade."

In his February State of the Union address President Bush called for "broader homeownership, especially among minorities."


In June, President Bush challenged both the public and private sector to be a partner in his crusade to create 5.5 million new minority homeowners by the end of the decade.

Fannie Mae responded by committing $700 billion in home financing to 4.6 million minority households through 2009. This increases by 66 percent the specific pledge Fannie Mae made in 2000 to minority families through it's American Dream Commitment plan to provide $420 billion for three million minority families.

(quotes from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac in Business Wire "President Bush’s Nationwide Effort to Increase Minority Homeownership" – October 15, 2002).


The Administration and Republican Congress also passed the "American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003 to allow low income and minorities with blemished credit and no ability to come up with a downpayment to have the government cover their downpayment and closing costs. The Act gave 161.5 million dollars in taxpayer money to cover the downpayment and closing costs of minorities and low income individuals that would not be able to afford a downpayment and/or had "blemished credit."



On December 16, 2003, President Bush signed into law the American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003, which will help approximately 40,000 families a year with their down payment and closing costs, and further strengthen America’s housing market. This legislation complements the President’s aggressive housing agenda announced in 2002 to dismantle the barriers to homeownership.

(From White House Press Release "American Dream Downpayment Act of 2003 – Expanding Homeownership Opportunities for All).

Bush also pushed and passed a "Zero-down Payment" initiative.

BUSH ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES NEW HUD "ZERO DOWN PAYMENT" MORTGAGE Initiative Aimed at Removing Major Barrier to Homeownership

LAS VEGAS - As part of President Bush's ongoing effort to help American families achieve the dream of homeownership, Federal Housing Commissioner John C. Weicher today announced that HUD is proposing to offer a "zero down payment" mortgage, the most significant initiative by the Federal Housing Administration in over a decade. This action would help remove the greatest barrier facing first-time homebuyers - the lack of funds for a down payment on a mortgage.
Speaking at the National Association of Home Builders' annual convention, Commissioner Weicher indicated that the proposal, part of HUD's Fiscal Year 2005 budget request, would eliminate the statutory requirement of a minimum three percent down payment for FHA-insured single-family mortgages for first-time homebuyers.

"Offering FHA mortgages with no down payment will unlock the door to homeownership for hundreds of thousands of American families, particularly minorities," said HUD's Acting Secretary Alphonso Jackson. "President Bush has pledged to create 5.5 million new minority homeowners this decade, and this historic initiative will help meet this goal."

Preliminary projections indicate that the new FHA mortgage product would generate about 150,000 homebuyers in the first year alone.
"This initiative would not only address a major hurdle to homeownership and allow many renters to afford their own home, it would help these families build wealth and become true stakeholders in their communities," said Commissioner Weicher. "In addition, it would help spur the production of new housing in this country."

The Administration, through HUD, further forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to offer riskier 3, 5, and 7 year arm loan products to low income and minorities.

BUSH ADMINISTRATION ANNOUNCES NEW ADJUSTABLE-RATE MORTGAGE PRODUCTS TO ENHANCE HOMEBUYING OPPORTUNITIES

40,000 More Families (A YEAR) Expected To Benefit From New Offerings


WASHINGTON – The Department of Housing and Urban Development is proposing to enhance homebuying opportunities by expanding its offerings of adjustable-rate mortgage (ARM) products on FHA-insured mortgages. Potential homebuyers would be able to choose mortgages with periods of three, five, seven or ten years, depending on their needs, during which time the interest rate would be fixed. "By offering additional types of FHA-insured ARMs tailored to the financial conditions and desires of the borrowers, we are creating more homeownership opportunities," said HUD Secretary Mel Martinez today in a speech to America’s Community Bankers. "We estimate that as many as 40,000 families a year will choose these new adjustable-rate mortgages as their way of financing their home purchase."

(HUD Press Release).

Bush and the Republican Congress forced Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make zero-down loans and adjustable rate 3, 5, and 7 year arms to the riskiest buyers. Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were forced to effectively finance 103 percent of the mortgage (including closing costs).


EVEN WITH HOW DUBYA HOSED F/F


Private sector loans, not Fannie or Freddie, triggered crisis
FACTS on Dubya's great recession | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum

So all you are doing is proving that Bush WANTED to help the poor! Wanted to help people get homes! WOW! BAD BAD BUSH!!!

WANTED TO "HELP' THE POOR? Oh right THAT'S why he fought ALL 50 states who wanted to reign in predatory lending when Dubya invoked the BIG FEDERAL GOV'T OVER STATES RIGHTS when those states were attempting to regulate the lenders?

I know, those 50 states that sued Dubya in 2003 to overrule his MANDATE didn't think he was looking out for the poor. Though they won the suit in 2009, Dubya's damage to US was done

BANKSTERS FOR BUSH RIGHT BUBBA?

Weird Harding/Coolidge "believed in" the markets self regulating then we had their great depression.

Went 50 years before a major banking breakdown when Ronnie ignored Ed Grays warnings that started in 1984 that would've stopped 90%+ of Ronnie's S&L crisis

Then Dubya ignored the warnings that started with the FBI in 2004 that warned of an EPIDEMIC OF MORTGAGE FRAUD THAT COULD RIVAL THE S&L CRISIS. What did Dubya do? Of course he GUTTED the FBI white collar division by 1,800 agents.

Gotta love those "free markets" adherents right Bubba?

 

[Dad2three]

Compromise requires both parties to give up something. The last time a small piece of the government stopped functioning, the House Republicans passed bills funding everything in the government except ONE program. Reid and Obama refused to compromise anything, choosing to shut down rather than hammer out a legislative compromise.

That's sadly hilarious and totally out of context. NaziCons try to legislate by "selectively" shutting down certain government programs important to Democrats and our Democratic president - then try to blame Democrats.

What's the missing context? There was ONE program in dispute, and ONE party willing to negotiate a compromise. There was no need for the other party to temporarily slow down government spending over the issue. Obviously, they had no desire to seek middle ground and accommodate.

ONE program? Instead of working through Congress as is usual, the GOP wants to circumvent the system to get their way!

 

[IlarMeilyr]

When the libs distort the meaning of the word "compromise" itself, of course the word "compromise" takes on a dirty hue.

The true meaning of "compromise" is all well and good and not the subject of any complaint.

But negotiating with liberal socialist Democrat Parody political hacks in Congress and the White House often involves "compromise" which is NOT true compromise. It is merely a slow-cook version of capitulation. Boehner was very good at 'comrpomising' with the likes of Obumbler and Senate Democrap leadershit.

Right, Carter/Clinton had 20% of GDP in revenues Ronnie gutted it to 17% AS he tripled debt, gut taxes on the rich AND increased it on the average working man. Dubya said Ronnie was weak, HE gutted revenues from 20% to less than 15% of GDP WHILE blowing up spending to 25% of GDP. Yet the GOP says no to increasing revenues? lol

Not that you have no credibility of any kind (perish the notion), but:

First off, you would benefit in that department by citing your sources. Try to find sources that are credible.

Secondly, try to formulate ACTUAL arguments. I am ok with you rattling off statistics. But FROM those statistics you SHOULD be able to then spell out a premise or two -- and then conjoin those premises with some logical claim (which might itself be open to additional discussion and analysis). This way you will have formed a syllogism.

With luck and practice you might, someday, with a lot of help, formulate a coherent argument. I doubt you will ever be persuasive. But, wtf? Give it at least a CHANCE.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

Executive Orders are making compromise a useless unnecessary endeavor. This current President has expressed that often. It's all about the pen now.

Perhaps the GOP should try to GOVERN instead of blowing up Gov't like the TeaTards want?

More of that bullshit?

Come off it.

The GOP as feckless and generally worthless as they have become are the ones who TRIED to govern. And when the petulant piece of shit Presidunce didn't get everything his way, HE and the Democrap Senate threatened to shut down the government (playing their lapdog dishonest mass media, at the time, like a fiddle, to falsely proclaim that it was the GOP who was threatening to shut down the government). It was lie upon lie perpetrated by Obumbler, Reid, the sycophantic dishonest liberal media and lapped up by you brainless maggot party-line regurgitating lib sheep.

Do yourself a favor Bubba, get off hate talk radio, Faux Entertainment and the right wing echo chamber and attempt to save the few brain cells you have left OK?

Hey pal. You might want to give your advice some personal effort of your own. NEWS is not actually something you get from the DAILY Kos nor from the likes of Bill Maher or the new and even less intelligent version of the Daily Show.

Your laughable lolberal echo chamber is not a valid alternative to actual education and thinking. Rub a couple of your vestigial brain cells together for warmth. I am doubtful you could ever strike up an actual thought, though.

 

[Dad2three]

"Why has "COMPROMISE" become a dirty word to Republican Conservatives"

Because they're extremists and ideologues who adhere blindly to failed conservative dogma.

Wrong. It's because you and your fellow failed liberal socialist ideologues misuse the word itself.

This makes no sense whatsoever.

It does. Your ongoing inability to understand such matters speaks far more to your weak intellect and piss poor educational accomplishments.

But I'm here to help. Let's start things off very slowly for your greatest chance of ever catching on:

"Compromise" is a word. Words have meaning. The meaning of the word is also, often, somewhat dependent on the context in which it is used.

You liberals tend to ignorantly (although sometimes with full knowledge and conscious choice) misuse words. You do so for different reasons. Sometimes its because you really don't know that words have precise meanings (as opposed to the gibberish spin you put on them). Other times you simply CHOOSE to ignore the context in which the words may be used.

I realize you are having huge difficulty with this. Get a kindly adult to help you out.

Republicans are cool with compromise — just not with President Obama



Pew, though, has also shown increase in support for compromise. While Americans preferred purity 54-40 percent in its poll in January 2011, compromise took the lead after the 2012 election, 50-44.

Similarly, this new NBC/WSJ poll even shows a plurality of Republicans now favor compromise, 49-45. Whoa, if true.

But before you good-government types get all high on the concept of compromise in the months and years ahead, I present to you: A wet blanket.

The one key word missing from NBC/WSJ's and Pew's previous polls? "Obama." And when you throw him into the mix, all bets are off.



Republicans and Republican-leaning voters prefer their leaders to "stand up" to Obama rather than compromise by a striking 66-32 percent. That's a far cry from NBC/WSJ's 49-45 percent pro-compromise split. And we would wager that it's all about invoking O-word, along with the idea of "standing up" to him.

(For what it's worth, the same question was asked of Democrats and Democratic-leaning voters about their party working with GOP leaders. Democrats preferred working together 52-43 percent. So again, the anti-compromise thing is largely a GOP phenomenon.)

So, yes, the American people generally like the idea of compromise, and even Republicans could be on board with it. But the moment that compromise becomes "with Barack Obama," any notion of a kumbaya moment goes out the window.

Republicans are cool with compromise — just not with President Obama

 

[the_human_being]

I do hope the Obamas don't trash the White House before they leave. We all know how Blacks destroy homes by breaking all the windows, knocking holes in the sheetrock, etc. The Clintons were the first Black family to occupy the White House. They stole even the silverware.

Good for you Bubba, get that Southern CONservative CONfederate States of AmeriKKKa support for the GOP, why worry about pretending you aren't anything but a KKK loving right wing moron!

I'm not a Democrat. The KKK was a Democrat organization, BUBBA.

KKK WAS CONservatives moron. UNLESS you "think" the SOUTHERN CONservative CONfederate States of AmeriKKKa was some huge liberal bastion?

It was Democrat, Moron. Ever hear of Senator Byrd? He wasn't a Republican.

 

[Dad2three]

When the libs distort the meaning of the word "compromise" itself, of course the word "compromise" takes on a dirty hue.

The true meaning of "compromise" is all well and good and not the subject of any complaint.

But negotiating with liberal socialist Democrat Parody political hacks in Congress and the White House often involves "compromise" which is NOT true compromise. It is merely a slow-cook version of capitulation. Boehner was very good at 'comrpomising' with the likes of Obumbler and Senate Democrap leadershit.

Right, Carter/Clinton had 20% of GDP in revenues Ronnie gutted it to 17% AS he tripled debt, gut taxes on the rich AND increased it on the average working man. Dubya said Ronnie was weak, HE gutted revenues from 20% to less than 15% of GDP WHILE blowing up spending to 25% of GDP. Yet the GOP says no to increasing revenues? lol

Not that you have no credibility of any kind (perish the notion), but:

First off, you would benefit in that department by citing your sources. Try to find sources that are credible.

Secondly, try to formulate ACTUAL arguments. I am ok with you rattling off statistics. But FROM those statistics you SHOULD be able to then spell out a premise or two -- and then conjoin those premises with some logical claim (which might itself be open to additional discussion and analysis). This way you will have formed a syllogism.

With luck and practice you might, someday, with a lot of help, formulate a coherent argument. I doubt you will ever be persuasive. But, wtf? Give it at least a CHANCE.

HOW'S THIS BUBBA

FUKK YOU

ANY post i have you question ANY I will source for the low informed baggers

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[Dad2three]

Executive Orders are making compromise a useless unnecessary endeavor. This current President has expressed that often. It's all about the pen now.

Perhaps the GOP should try to GOVERN instead of blowing up Gov't like the TeaTards want?

More of that bullshit?

Come off it.

The GOP as feckless and generally worthless as they have become are the ones who TRIED to govern. And when the petulant piece of shit Presidunce didn't get everything his way, HE and the Democrap Senate threatened to shut down the government (playing their lapdog dishonest mass media, at the time, like a fiddle, to falsely proclaim that it was the GOP who was threatening to shut down the government). It was lie upon lie perpetrated by Obumbler, Reid, the sycophantic dishonest liberal media and lapped up by you brainless maggot party-line regurgitating lib sheep.

Do yourself a favor Bubba, get off hate talk radio, Faux Entertainment and the right wing echo chamber and attempt to save the few brain cells you have left OK?

Hey pal. You might want to give your advice some personal effort of your own. NEWS is not actually something you get from the DAILY Kos nor from the likes of Bill Maher or the new and even less intelligent version of the Daily Show.

Your laughable lolberal echo chamber is not a valid alternative to actual education and thinking. Rub a couple of your vestigial brain cells together for warmth. I am doubtful you could ever strike up an actual thought, though.

Your ad homs noted and discarded like the scum it came from Bubs

 

[the_human_being]

Executive Orders are making compromise a useless unnecessary endeavor. This current President has expressed that often. It's all about the pen now.

Perhaps the GOP should try to GOVERN instead of blowing up Gov't like the TeaTards want?

More of that bullshit?

Come off it.

The GOP as feckless and generally worthless as they have become are the ones who TRIED to govern. And when the petulant piece of shit Presidunce didn't get everything his way, HE and the Democrap Senate threatened to shut down the government (playing their lapdog dishonest mass media, at the time, like a fiddle, to falsely proclaim that it was the GOP who was threatening to shut down the government). It was lie upon lie perpetrated by Obumbler, Reid, the sycophantic dishonest liberal media and lapped up by you brainless maggot party-line regurgitating lib sheep.

Do yourself a favor Bubba, get off hate talk radio, Faux Entertainment and the right wing echo chamber and attempt to save the few brain cells you have left OK?

Yes, I realize you are a self-proclaimed genius. You German people had your butts handed to you by the United States military. On the other hand, my people were never defeated by the United States military. That's the very reason I cannot claim "victim" status like you.

 

[the_human_being]

When the libs distort the meaning of the word "compromise" itself, of course the word "compromise" takes on a dirty hue.

The true meaning of "compromise" is all well and good and not the subject of any complaint.

But negotiating with liberal socialist Democrat Parody political hacks in Congress and the White House often involves "compromise" which is NOT true compromise. It is merely a slow-cook version of capitulation. Boehner was very good at 'comrpomising' with the likes of Obumbler and Senate Democrap leadershit.

Right, Carter/Clinton had 20% of GDP in revenues Ronnie gutted it to 17% AS he tripled debt, gut taxes on the rich AND increased it on the average working man. Dubya said Ronnie was weak, HE gutted revenues from 20% to less than 15% of GDP WHILE blowing up spending to 25% of GDP. Yet the GOP says no to increasing revenues? lol

Not that you have no credibility of any kind (perish the notion), but:

First off, you would benefit in that department by citing your sources. Try to find sources that are credible.

Secondly, try to formulate ACTUAL arguments. I am ok with you rattling off statistics. But FROM those statistics you SHOULD be able to then spell out a premise or two -- and then conjoin those premises with some logical claim (which might itself be open to additional discussion and analysis). This way you will have formed a syllogism.

With luck and practice you might, someday, with a lot of help, formulate a coherent argument. I doubt you will ever be persuasive. But, wtf? Give it at least a CHANCE.

HOW'S THIS BUBBA

FUKK YOU

ANY post i have you question ANY I will source for the low informed baggers

Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

He's flying off into that familiar Liberal rage of cursing with every breath now. A total throwback to the stone age.

 

[Dad2three]

I do hope the Obamas don't trash the White House before they leave. We all know how Blacks destroy homes by breaking all the windows, knocking holes in the sheetrock, etc. The Clintons were the first Black family to occupy the White House. They stole even the silverware.

Good for you Bubba, get that Southern CONservative CONfederate States of AmeriKKKa support for the GOP, why worry about pretending you aren't anything but a KKK loving right wing moron!

I'm not a Democrat. The KKK was a Democrat organization, BUBBA.

KKK WAS CONservatives moron. UNLESS you "think" the SOUTHERN CONservative CONfederate States of AmeriKKKa was some huge liberal bastion?

It was Democrat, Moron. Ever hear of Senator Byrd? He wasn't a Republican.

Saying LIBERALS ARE RUNNING THOSE SOUTHERN CONSERVATIVE CONFEDERATE STATES BUBBA? Seriously? lol

 

[the_human_being]

Executive Orders are making compromise a useless unnecessary endeavor. This current President has expressed that often. It's all about the pen now.

Perhaps the GOP should try to GOVERN instead of blowing up Gov't like the TeaTards want?

More of that bullshit?

Come off it.

The GOP as feckless and generally worthless as they have become are the ones who TRIED to govern. And when the petulant piece of shit Presidunce didn't get everything his way, HE and the Democrap Senate threatened to shut down the government (playing their lapdog dishonest mass media, at the time, like a fiddle, to falsely proclaim that it was the GOP who was threatening to shut down the government). It was lie upon lie perpetrated by Obumbler, Reid, the sycophantic dishonest liberal media and lapped up by you brainless maggot party-line regurgitating lib sheep.

Do yourself a favor Bubba, get off hate talk radio, Faux Entertainment and the right wing echo chamber and attempt to save the few brain cells you have left OK?

Hey pal. You might want to give your advice some personal effort of your own. NEWS is not actually something you get from the DAILY Kos nor from the likes of Bill Maher or the new and even less intelligent version of the Daily Show.

Your laughable lolberal echo chamber is not a valid alternative to actual education and thinking. Rub a couple of your vestigial brain cells together for warmth. I am doubtful you could ever strike up an actual thought, though.

Your ad homs noted and discarded like the scum it came from Bubs

I didn't discard it.

 

[Dad2three]

Executive Orders are making compromise a useless unnecessary endeavor. This current President has expressed that often. It's all about the pen now.

Perhaps the GOP should try to GOVERN instead of blowing up Gov't like the TeaTards want?

More of that bullshit?

Come off it.

The GOP as feckless and generally worthless as they have become are the ones who TRIED to govern. And when the petulant piece of shit Presidunce didn't get everything his way, HE and the Democrap Senate threatened to shut down the government (playing their lapdog dishonest mass media, at the time, like a fiddle, to falsely proclaim that it was the GOP who was threatening to shut down the government). It was lie upon lie perpetrated by Obumbler, Reid, the sycophantic dishonest liberal media and lapped up by you brainless maggot party-line regurgitating lib sheep.

Do yourself a favor Bubba, get off hate talk radio, Faux Entertainment and the right wing echo chamber and attempt to save the few brain cells you have left OK?

Yes, I realize you are a self-proclaimed genius. You German people had your butts handed to you by the United States military. On the other hand, my people were never defeated by the United States military. That's the very reason I cannot claim "victim" status like you.

LMAOROG. My family has been in the US over 200+ years dumbshit!

 

[the_human_being]

I do hope the Obamas don't trash the White House before they leave. We all know how Blacks destroy homes by breaking all the windows, knocking holes in the sheetrock, etc. The Clintons were the first Black family to occupy the White House. They stole even the silverware.

Good for you Bubba, get that Southern CONservative CONfederate States of AmeriKKKa support for the GOP, why worry about pretending you aren't anything but a KKK loving right wing moron!

I'm not a Democrat. The KKK was a Democrat organization, BUBBA.

KKK WAS CONservatives moron. UNLESS you "think" the SOUTHERN CONservative CONfederate States of AmeriKKKa was some huge liberal bastion?

It was Democrat, Moron. Ever hear of Senator Byrd? He wasn't a Republican.

Saying LIBERALS ARE RUNNING THOSE SOUTHERN CONSERVATIVE CONFEDERATE STATES BUBBA? Seriously? lol

Fool, I said the KKK was a Democrat organization. You really are some kind of stupid.

 

[Dad2three]

When the libs distort the meaning of the word "compromise" itself, of course the word "compromise" takes on a dirty hue.

The true meaning of "compromise" is all well and good and not the subject of any complaint.

But negotiating with liberal socialist Democrat Parody political hacks in Congress and the White House often involves "compromise" which is NOT true compromise. It is merely a slow-cook version of capitulation. Boehner was very good at 'comrpomising' with the likes of Obumbler and Senate Democrap leadershit.

Right, Carter/Clinton had 20% of GDP in revenues Ronnie gutted it to 17% AS he tripled debt, gut taxes on the rich AND increased it on the average working man. Dubya said Ronnie was weak, HE gutted revenues from 20% to less than 15% of GDP WHILE blowing up spending to 25% of GDP. Yet the GOP says no to increasing revenues? lol

Not that you have no credibility of any kind (perish the notion), but:

First off, you would benefit in that department by citing your sources. Try to find sources that are credible.

Secondly, try to formulate ACTUAL arguments. I am ok with you rattling off statistics. But FROM those statistics you SHOULD be able to then spell out a premise or two -- and then conjoin those premises with some logical claim (which might itself be open to additional discussion and analysis). This way you will have formed a syllogism.

With luck and practice you might, someday, with a lot of help, formulate a coherent argument. I doubt you will ever be persuasive. But, wtf? Give it at least a CHANCE.

HOW'S THIS BUBBA

FUKK YOU

ANY post i have you question ANY I will source for the low informed baggers

Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

Historical Federal Receipt and Outlay Summary

He's flying off into that familiar Liberal rage of cursing with every breath now. A total throwback to the stone age.

You mean I'm going down to the TeaTards level because of the scum they are? Yep

 

[the_human_being]

Executive Orders are making compromise a useless unnecessary endeavor. This current President has expressed that often. It's all about the pen now.

Perhaps the GOP should try to GOVERN instead of blowing up Gov't like the TeaTards want?

More of that bullshit?

Come off it.

The GOP as feckless and generally worthless as they have become are the ones who TRIED to govern. And when the petulant piece of shit Presidunce didn't get everything his way, HE and the Democrap Senate threatened to shut down the government (playing their lapdog dishonest mass media, at the time, like a fiddle, to falsely proclaim that it was the GOP who was threatening to shut down the government). It was lie upon lie perpetrated by Obumbler, Reid, the sycophantic dishonest liberal media and lapped up by you brainless maggot party-line regurgitating lib sheep.

Do yourself a favor Bubba, get off hate talk radio, Faux Entertainment and the right wing echo chamber and attempt to save the few brain cells you have left OK?

Yes, I realize you are a self-proclaimed genius. You German people had your butts handed to you by the United States military. On the other hand, my people were never defeated by the United States military. That's the very reason I cannot claim "victim" status like you.

LMAOROG. My family has been in the US over 200+ years dumbshit!

You're new here. Mine has been here a whole lots longer than that.