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There isn't a holy book on the planet that isn't wholly fiction. That's how they work. Logos and Mythos, and you mistake one for the other. Here's am example (Eve did not yell out, Hey, Adam, where have Cain and Abel gotten to now?).God told us about Him.Atheists and Theists are both dumb as dog shit. There is only one rational position, God is unknown.And there seems to be two arguments for god. One is the generic, "there must be god" argument and then there's the "god visited our ancestors 2000 years ago of course he's real" argument.
You are the one who doesn't have a clue. Just like a little muslim woman in Afganistan doesn't. But like you she thinks she has all the answers. Its all in the koran.
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Only the most completely ignorant fool would say that there is only two arguments for the existence of God.I know it's free will. You babble much and expect to be taken serious, you need to change that
I think you are banging your head against the wall. Atheists these days are just too stupid to follow any complexity in an argument and have no interest to anyway.
You can argue the assembled books are fiction.
But statistical odds and human nature says it is not very likely fiction.
God told us about Him.Atheists and Theists are both dumb as dog shit. There is only one rational position, God is unknown.And there seems to be two arguments for god. One is the generic, "there must be god" argument and then there's the "god visited our ancestors 2000 years ago of course he's real" argument.
You are the one who doesn't have a clue. Just like a little muslim woman in Afganistan doesn't. But like you she thinks she has all the answers. Its all in the koran.
I
Only the most completely ignorant fool would say that there is only two arguments for the existence of God.I know it's free will. You babble much and expect to be taken serious, you need to change that
I think you are banging your head against the wall. Atheists these days are just too stupid to follow any complexity in an argument and have no interest to anyway.
You can argue the assembled books are fiction.
But statistical odds and human nature says it is not very likely fiction.
We know that 'god' as perceived by theists is a creation of man, as is religion and other manifestations of faith.Well that would certainly end 'faith" alright. The other likely outcome, the real God wouldn't give a fuck what happened to you, didn't know you would be here actually."There are plenty of reasons to believe in a Creator"
All of which are subjective, personal, and completely devoid of objective, documented evidence, fact, or merit.
Which is fine, religion is supposed to be personal and subjective; indeed, the last thing theists would want is proof 'god' exists.
God told us about what He expects from US, not about HIM.
God is unknowable.
In fact, God doesn't need us...at all.
We know that 'god' as perceived by theists is a creation of man, as is religion and other manifestations of faith.Well that would certainly end 'faith" alright. The other likely outcome, the real God wouldn't give a fuck what happened to you, didn't know you would be here actually."There are plenty of reasons to believe in a Creator"
All of which are subjective, personal, and completely devoid of objective, documented evidence, fact, or merit.
Which is fine, religion is supposed to be personal and subjective; indeed, the last thing theists would want is proof 'god' exists.
There never was a 'god,' there is no 'god' now – one cannot not believe in something that never existed to begin with.
The mistake theists make is to assume 'god' to be a 'fact,' where those free from faith 'reject' that 'fact.'
This position is false, as theism is the aberration, 'god' its errant contrivance, where those free from faith aren't 'rejecting “god,”' but are instead acknowledging the fact that there is no 'god' which warrants such faith and belief.
Theists also make the mistake of attempting to propagate an appeal to ignorance fallacy – or the 'you can never know for sure' fallacy, that because there is no evidence 'god' doesn't exist, then it's perfectly 'reasonable' to assume it does exist.
Any being that has such a large ego it wants to be worshiped, I'll pass. It can make these for that (which is what many of you are):God told us about what He expects from US, not about HIM.
God is unknowable.
In fact, God doesn't need us...at all.
God is not 100% knowable, but He is also omniscient and is capable of explaining Himself to the degree that we need to understand Him.
And, true, God does not need us, nor does He need anything at all.
But he desires us and wants us to worship Him.
that is all that is necessary as He isnt exactly on a budget of some sort and can do whatever He wants.
God told us about what He expects from US, not about HIM.
God is unknowable.
In fact, God doesn't need us...at all.
God is not 100% knowable, but He is also omniscient and is capable of explaining Himself to the degree that we need to understand Him.
And, true, God does not need us, nor does He need anything at all.
But he desires us and wants us to worship Him.
that is all that is necessary as He isnt exactly on a budget of some sort and can do whatever He wants.
We know that 'god' as perceived by theists is a creation of man, as is religion and other manifestations of faith.
There is a Creator and you tremble in your sleepless nights at the thought.There never was a 'god,' there is no 'god' now – one cannot not believe in something that never existed to begin with.
The mistake theists make is to assume 'god' to be a 'fact,' where those free from faith 'reject' that 'fact.'
This position is false, as theism is the aberration, 'god' its errant contrivance, where those free from faith aren't 'rejecting “god,”' but are instead acknowledging the fact that there is no 'god' which warrants such faith and belief.
Theists also make the mistake of attempting to propagate an appeal to ignorance fallacy – or the 'you can never know for sure' fallacy, that because there is no evidence 'god' doesn't exist, then it's perfectly 'reasonable' to assume it does exist.
Since it's a Jewish faith, for Jews, that can be an issue...God told us about what He expects from US, not about HIM.
God is unknowable.
In fact, God doesn't need us...at all.
God is not 100% knowable, but He is also omniscient and is capable of explaining Himself to the degree that we need to understand Him.
And, true, God does not need us, nor does He need anything at all.
But he desires us and wants us to worship Him.
that is all that is necessary as He isnt exactly on a budget of some sort and can do whatever He wants.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Soul-Life-Complete-Ha-chayyim/dp/061569991X&tag=ff0d01-20
Based heavily on the Zohar, written in the 1700's, a brilliant, ultra documented explanation to dispel any mistaken notion's of God's relationship to His creation.
I truly feel sorry for any sincerely spiritual Christian who can't speak or read Hebrew.
Any being that has such a large ego it wants to be worshiped, I'll pass. It can make these for that (which is what many of you are):God told us about what He expects from US, not about HIM.
God is unknowable.
In fact, God doesn't need us...at all.
God is not 100% knowable, but He is also omniscient and is capable of explaining Himself to the degree that we need to understand Him.
And, true, God does not need us, nor does He need anything at all.
But he desires us and wants us to worship Him.
that is all that is necessary as He isnt exactly on a budget of some sort and can do whatever He wants.
So your response an appeal to authority of a Hebrew mystic?http://www.amazon.com/The-Soul-Life-Complete-Ha-chayyim/dp/061569991X&tag=ff0d01-20
Based heavily on the Zohar, written in the 1700's, a brilliant, ultra documented explanation to dispel any mistaken notion's of God's relationship to His creation.
I truly feel sorry for any sincerely spiritual Christian who can't speak or read Hebrew.
Since it's a Jewish faith, for Jews, that can be an issue...God told us about what He expects from US, not about HIM.
God is unknowable.
In fact, God doesn't need us...at all.
God is not 100% knowable, but He is also omniscient and is capable of explaining Himself to the degree that we need to understand Him.
And, true, God does not need us, nor does He need anything at all.
But he desires us and wants us to worship Him.
that is all that is necessary as He isnt exactly on a budget of some sort and can do whatever He wants.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Soul-Life-Complete-Ha-chayyim/dp/061569991X&tag=ff0d01-20
Based heavily on the Zohar, written in the 1700's, a brilliant, ultra documented explanation to dispel any mistaken notion's of God's relationship to His creation.
I truly feel sorry for any sincerely spiritual Christian who can't speak or read Hebrew.
It consists of Treating all human beings as one would want to be treated and worshipping God as He deserves most of all.I guess if the worship consists of treating all creatures the way you want God to treat you, well, fine with me.
It doesn't mean man has succeeded.
So your response an appeal to authority of a Hebrew mystic?http://www.amazon.com/The-Soul-Life-Complete-Ha-chayyim/dp/061569991X&tag=ff0d01-20
Based heavily on the Zohar, written in the 1700's, a brilliant, ultra documented explanation to dispel any mistaken notion's of God's relationship to His creation.
I truly feel sorry for any sincerely spiritual Christian who can't speak or read Hebrew.
Roflmao, no thank you, I dont recognise either the mans authority nor the rationality of Truths uncovered in mysticism, though it can be of use to the person who experienced it, it is not persuasive to those who do not.
It consists of Treating all human beings as one would want to be treated and worshipping God as He deserves most of all.I guess if the worship consists of treating all creatures the way you want God to treat you, well, fine with me.
It doesn't mean man has succeeded.
Either one is spiritual or not.
This book is a concrete explanation of God's breathing the breathe of life into Adam and the mechanics of how man influences the spiritual entities by his actions.
The question is...why DID God breathe the of life specifically into Adam?
From a religious authority that I do recognize. And also internally, I believe it because it has the ring of truth to my mind.I'm just wondering how YOU know this?
Good for you.That's your problem! Doesn't matter what I or you LIKE. Reality is all I'm interested in.To serve our fellow mankind and let them know that all of their sins in life can be forgiven by simply believing in Jesus. Plenty of reasons to when you look at the evidence honestly.What is our purpose?A tardigrade can survive the vaccuum of space and there more of them than us. Maybe they are gods chosen one.
Humans are such funny animals. So smart and yet so dumb. So superstitious. Wishful thinking. It's a way of coping with death.
I think a real God will reward my intelligence, if there was one.
Tardigrades cannot survive in the vacuum of space. Sorry, they just can't.
Humans are funny animals, some of them believe in magic universes and life that pop out of nothingness for no reason or purpose. It's a small number but we love them anyway.
Why do you think we need to cope with death? Why does no other life form seem to be afflicted with the handicap of having to create a security blanket to cope with death? Does the belief in something we made up from imagination make death better to cope with? Why doesn't this work to solve all our other problems? Why can't we just imagine ourselves well when we're sick? Or imagine ourselves in Tahiti to cope with our feeling sick? I wonder if I could imagine you into another universe?
Face it, if there is no God there is no such thing as evil. We are just biological byproducts of some universal mass explosion.
You pick which scenario you like better.
I choose We are just biological byproducts of some universal mass explosion.
Care to share with us delusional folks where it says chaos naturally evolves into order?
Either one is spiritual or not.
This book is a concrete explanation of God's breathing the breathe of life into Adam and the mechanics of how man influences the spiritual entities by his actions.
The question is...why DID God breathe the of life specifically into Adam?
He gave Adam his soul when He did so. The early concept of soul was closely tied to posessing ones breath.
Are you talking about believing in generic god or are you talking about believing the Moses, Jesus, Mohammad, etc? Because when it comes to the idea that god visited, I'm an atheists. But when it comes to the existence of a creator, I'm an agnostic atheist. It doesn't seem like there is a god/creator. From an intelligent mind, it seems like humans made that up to deal with death and the unknown. Superstitious. So I lean towards not believing but you are right, the only logical position is agnostic.Atheists and Theists are both dumb as dog shit. There is only one rational position, God is unknown.And there seems to be two arguments for god. One is the generic, "there must be god" argument and then there's the "god visited our ancestors 2000 years ago of course he's real" argument.
You are the one who doesn't have a clue. Just like a little muslim woman in Afganistan doesn't. But like you she thinks she has all the answers. Its all in the koran.
I
Only the most completely ignorant fool would say that there is only two arguments for the existence of God.I know it's free will. You babble much and expect to be taken serious, you need to change that
I think you are banging your head against the wall. Atheists these days are just too stupid to follow any complexity in an argument and have no interest to anyway.
