Why is the far left so upset that a 17 year old Patriot shoot arsonists and looters?

[IM2]

...and I have to wonder...this particular event started with Blake, by all accounts a man who loved his children, shot at close range, right in front of his kids...does any think about them?

Had he not resisted he’d be alive. That is a common theme with most of these recent shootings by police. Why can’t people understand that?

All accounts?

Blake did not resist and whites resist arrest all the time and don't end up dead. If you aren't committing a crime there is no reason to be detained.

 

[Jitss617]

Democrats are commmunist they want anyone that thinks differently in pain

 

[IM2]

This boy has the right to self-defense.

Period.

So do the guys he's shooting.

not when they are attempting to murder him.

You mean after he attempted to murder them? Oh wait. He did. No attempt about it. The two he killed weren't even armed....(and yes I'm using "murder" loosely because nuance means nothing here).

You are factually wrong. The kid was RUNNING away from the first guy he shot. He was then RUNNING AWAY from the next two guys he shot. What part of RUNNING away is not making it through your head?

What part of he shouldn't have shot them or, IN FACT - let's be FACTUAL - what part of he had no business being there? You know how I feel about vigilantism, and private militias accountable to no one, so I won't go there. But at least the ADULTS who were there protecting private property, managed NOT to kill anyone, NOT to "lose it", NOT to get into a situation like that. Only HE DID. And you can't blame the guys chasing him - he KILLED someone already. And he was armed ILLEGALLY. It should never have happened.

Unfortunately, the intangibles you’ve mentioned are conjecture. It’s more emotion that reality.

This boy has the right to self-defense.

Period.

So do the guys he's shooting.

not when they are attempting to murder him.

You mean after he attempted to murder them? Oh wait. He did. No attempt about it. The two he killed weren't even armed....(and yes I'm using "murder" loosely because nuance means nothing here).

You are factually wrong. The kid was RUNNING away from the first guy he shot. He was then RUNNING AWAY from the next two guys he shot. What part of RUNNING away is not making it through your head?

What part of he shouldn't have shot them or, IN FACT - let's be FACTUAL - what part of he had no business being there? You know how I feel about vigilantism, and private militias accountable to no one, so I won't go there. But at least the ADULTS who were there protecting private property, managed NOT to kill anyone, NOT to "lose it", NOT to get into a situation like that. Only HE DID. And you can't blame the guys chasing him - he KILLED someone already. And he was armed ILLEGALLY. It should never have happened.

You’re argument doesn’t hold water simply because it is an opinion. Now, should he have been there? He had every right. It is irrelevant that he was younger, underage, or had a gun illegally. He was attacked by grown adults in a mob as far as I know a this point, without provocation.

I counter with this, the convicted felon with a gun drawn as Kyle was sitting on the ground should not have been there either. Had the savages never advanced at Kyle, nothing would have happened.

A similar case in terms of illegally using or possessing a firearm is happening in Virginia.

An employee used a gun against three people as they broke into his place of employment. He was sleeping there that night and used the gun to defend himself and the property. He cant posses or use a firearm. The firearm was not his, it was his boss who owned it. So, is he justified or does he simply get killed? It’s tough but, I would think the circumstances would allow for defense of ones self. Different but similar to Kenosha.

He was not attacked by anyone. And Coyote was right when she said he should not have been there. He drove up from Illinois to shoot people.

or just tryna be famous. bruh.

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Kyle wasn’t attacked? At all? You mean never happened at all?

Should I call the authorities on people who want to be famous? Easy to assume he wanted to kill people.

There is no evidence he was attacked. And why did he drive up from Illinois?

Excuse me. He was chased by the same guy who on video, witnesses have verified, kept being aggressive toward the people protecting the store. The witness that was closest too the pedophile with a hole in his head, stated he attempted to grab Kyles gun after Kyle stopped running. Stay in reality.

Example...if you decided to chase me down and I run away with my rifle in hand. Clearly, I’m avoiding confrontation. If i decide I can’t run anymore you’d better stop. The savage got what he deserved.

Bullshit. This boy drove up to Kenosha from Illinois. He was underage and out past curfew. He was not avoiding anything. He was looking for trouble. Because if he wanted to avoid something, his punk ass would have stayed home in Illinois.

 

[IM2]

Two nights ago, the Great Patriot, Defender of Kenosha, and Guardian of the Republic, Kyle Rittenhouse, suppressed an unlawful riot in Kenosha where countless businesses have been burnt down, looted and forced out of business.

The police were no where to be found, unable to act and carry out their function of maintaining Law and Order.

So the citizens of the area took up arms, exercising their Second Amendment right to suppress violent riot, arson and looting and to suppress a communist insurrection.

It's almost as if the far left wants to take our Second Amendment rights so they can abolish the police and then rain chaos upon our communities (problem, reaction...solution?), and then institute their new police force under the flag of communism to restore civilization.

So what he did was legal?

When you start to support vigilantism like this, you are no different than the looters and rioters. This all is coming together in a really bad way and dangerous way for our country.

the one difference here is, you didn't start it. but if you allow looters and rioters to tear shit up - you're a fool if you expect people to sit back and let it happen night after night after night.

It's starting to look like you are following me around from thread to thread.

Can't understand how you can on the one hand condemn rioting (which I agree with that condemnation) and yet support this. It's internally inconsistent.

Vigilantism is lawlessness. No different than rioting. A 17 year old in no way should be out there in a hyper volatile protest with a high powered rifle. IF the facts so far are correct - and the situation if evolving - he shot and KILLED two people and badly injured a third. Self defense is one thing, but in the initial killing, that does NOT appear to be the case.

The picture of him coming out is also disturbing. Funny how a protestor, standing across the street holding up speakers gets shot in the face by a rubber bullet, is vilified as a jobless bum (despite no evidence of actual participation in rioting) but this guy, illegally carrying a high powered rifle (he's 17) is a "hero". MURDER IS NOT HEROIC.

Something is messed up is very messed up right now if this is a "hero". Police are heroes. Undisciplined private paramilitaries are not. They are as dangerous as mobs of rioters. And they are ANTI-LAW. Anyone who believes in taking the law into their own hands and meting out justice is NOT LAWFUL.

What do we know about this kid?

Who is Kyle Rittenhouse? Here's what we know about the 17-year-old charged in the Kenosha protest shooting.

Before he took his rifle to confront the unrest in Kenosha, Wis., on Tuesday, allegedly killing two people and injuring another, Kyle Rittenhouse seemingly idolized one thing: the police. Growing […]

www.boston.com

But brief accounts from neighbors and local institutions paint the picture of a high school dropout who viewed law enforcement officers as his personal heroes.​

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So much so that, when massive protests, looting and fires broke out in Kenosha following the police shooting of Jacob Blake on Sunday, he crossed state lines to offer his support to local policemen – at times, speaking as if their duties were his, too.​

Police are heavily trained, and they know the law. These guys don't. They have no business acting like police.

There are WAY TOO MANY armed people at these protests and that includes "the left" - you once said once you bring firearms to a protest it is no longer peaceful. Still believe that?

There are WAY TOO MANY OUTSIDERS at these events - both "protestors" and "counter protestors" - they need to be thrown out of town.

Here is what one person said - is she right?

“Maybe he thought he was doing the right thing, but you don’t kill somebody,” she said. “That’s not your business to kill someone for messing with someone else’s business. That’s for the cops to deal with.”​

Hmmm, one of the thugs he killed was a pedo who served 12 years, and the other raped and tortured his girlfriend. Fine upstanding citizens those two were.

The last guy was armed with a pistol and the leader of a communist group who wants to destroy the USA.

I should care about violent felons why?

Just out of morbid curiosity; one of our more prominent posters here did time in prison. If he were shot dead by some guy who just wanted to kill someone, would you care?

First off the dead felons were trying to attack the kid. At that point I simply don't give a shit what happens to them.

They already have shown they don't care about the Rights of others, and they were trying to kill this kid, so no, good riddance to bad rubbish.

Great way to promote senseless killing on top of senseless rioting.

I'm beyond disgusted by what's happening on all sides.

Everyone seems to listen to the same echo chamber here. The so-called claims of "violent rape and assault" and "pedophilia" were deliberately made up to slander them. How low can you go West short of killing someone? Here's an idea for a start - go to the WI Sex Offender Registry and type in his name. Anything pop up? That is a start at trying untangle this complete mess of layered fakery, bogus claims, and incitements for more violence on both sides.

Second. If you claim these three men (2 dead and 1 injured) were rioters, please show it. Acts of rioting, looting and arson are illegal, we all agree on that. Show us that is what THOSE THREE PEOPLE were doing. Are you claiming EVERYONE at the protest was engaged in arson and looting? Then that must include the kid and the armed private militia people right? Or - wait - are you going to make some distinctions? hmmm....how about Right = lawful, Left = unlawful = legitimate target....cause that's where you guys are going with this. That's a good starting point for killing people on a political basis huh? No need to mess around trying to figure out who is engaged in unlawful activity and who is not. Now, if only there is some way to identify them before we kill them and have to make up crap to justify it AFTER THE FACT.

So what happened here?

Here's one news account with no speculation:

Social media footage surfaced surrounding the late-night fatal shooting during unrest. Witness accounts and video indicate the gunman first shot someone at a car lot just before midnight, but details on what sparked that shooting weren't immediately clear. ​

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The alleged gunman then jogged away, fell in the street, and opened fire again as members of the crowd closed in on him, some appearing to kick and grab at his weapon. According to witness accounts and video footage, police apparently let the gunman walk past them and leave the scene with a rifle over his shoulder and his hands in the air as members of the crowd were yelling for him to be arrested because he had shot people.​

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When asked why the gunman was not arrested in the moment, Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth said he couldn't say for certain, but noted the chaos surrounding officers that night.​

Since it's all caught on video, it's pretty damn hard to JUSTIFY but easier to UNDERSTAND the shootings - the fact he was there and (illegally) armed to begin with and the fact he was allowed to simply walk away and return to another state and the fact that in that video there was NO criminal behavior being conducted by any of the dead or injured victims speak for themselves. The rest is speculation, differing accounts, deliberate disinformation, witness statements and armchair quarterbacks dissecting a brief video.

So here are the questions:

WHY WAS A 17 YEAR OLD THERE????? WITH THAT KIND OF WEAPON???? Regardless of what was going on....no one else got shot. Regardless of how I personally feel about private militias (which, as you know, is pretty negative) - THEY didn't shoot anyone either. The police refused to deputize these citizens...for good reason, but they were and imo it's fine to do so - allowed to guard private property. That is FINE. That is what this kid was supposed to be doing, but he LEFT his spot. If he had stayed there nothing would have happened! He was in over his head and he panicked, understandably, when people in the crowd tried to restrain him and get rid of his weapon. As far as anyone could see - the kid was another mass shooter...like Parkland, or any number of events. How could anyone know otherwise when they witness a man shot in the head and another man trotting away with a rifle? He wasn't law enforcement. No badge. No ID. WE FAILED HIM BY ALLOWING HIM TO BE THERE! He is not a hero. He is not a thug. He's a mixed up kid, who badly wanted to be a policeman, who idolized law enforcement, who carried a MEDIC bag in case any protestors needed help, and damn, I just end up crying for HIM, for this one ruined life, someone who really did not seem to have any malice. The dead are dead, but he will have to live with this. It's so wrong.

WHO SHOULD WE BLAME for the riots? Oh, I know the answer that will come from some - commie lefties. Democrats. Sheesh. Get a new playbook. Responsibility ultimately comes down on the mayor. He, along with the city council are responsible for ensuring the safety of his citizens, and their livelyhoods and their homes. Just like if you are the president - it doesn't really matter what you do or don't do - the buck stops here.

But there is a bit more than that because nothing is really simple unless you are a business that got burned out, or the fiancé, with a 2 yr old daughter, of a man who is now dead and slandered, or a 17 year old kid who will now be facing a life he never envisioned, or the family of a man brutally shot in the back at close range, and you just want justice.

What could have been done differently?

Let's start at the beginning. What sparked the demonstrations that then turned into rioting?

A video. A video showing police come up to a man, leaning into his car, grabbing him by the shirt, pulling him back and pumping multiple rounds into his back at close range. It was brutal and against the backdrop of so many videos showing (justifiable and unjustifiable) police violence - there should be no surprise at public reaction. I don't care who the man was, there is no way to watch that (if you are a normal person) and not be horrified. This is our new reality - videos. Of EVERYTHING. Harder to sweep things under the rug, easier to spin, misconstrue, take out of context. Easier to inflame "the masses". Easier to see wrong doing.

What preceded that? Attempts at police reform by the Wisconsin governor, stalled by the legislature. Maybe, just maybe, if people see that something is happening and something is being done, and there is transparency the potential for violence is less. The governor is attempting, AGAIN, to pass it

Yet, the mayor himself appears to be tone deaf to his constituency. If he doesn't listen to the other half, and he fails to provide law and order, he's going to deservedly lose re-election. One example - curfews. A good way to tamp down the potential for violence which always seems to escalate at night. There are demonstrations ongoing described as "mostly peaceful". There is supposed to be a curfew. It's NOT BEING ENFORCED. What the hell?

What is your solution? Blame "commies"? Get real. We have a perfect storm with bitter political divisions at EVERY LEVEL, widespread public anger and unrest, a lot of restrictions and confusion with a pandemic, widespread distrust of our leadership, huge unemployment, Congress incapable of doing their job, a hugely divisive and incompetent president, and the worst recession in ages and more internet disinformation than ever before. Take your pick - it all feeds into the unrest.

But I will say this, I was wrong on one thing, I am now agreeing with you that we need law and order more than ever - we need to stop the violence and that means addressing ALL the participants, not politicizing who to go after. But that can't be with private militias, because they become PART of the problem, fed by the same disinformation as the rest of us. Private entities can guard private property but they have no business roaming the streets or public areas and if they kill someone, they face the law on that. The police and our national guard are the ones who need to be doing this. It's their job, it's what they are trained for. Crowd control. Arresting looters and arsonists. Enforcing curfews.

This kid is not a hero. He's a victim. And we are all to blame.

Two nights ago, the Great Patriot, Defender of Kenosha, and Guardian of the Republic, Kyle Rittenhouse, suppressed an unlawful riot in Kenosha where countless businesses have been burnt down, looted and forced out of business.

The police were no where to be found, unable to act and carry out their function of maintaining Law and Order.

So the citizens of the area took up arms, exercising their Second Amendment right to suppress violent riot, arson and looting and to suppress a communist insurrection.

It's almost as if the far left wants to take our Second Amendment rights so they can abolish the police and then rain chaos upon our communities (problem, reaction...solution?), and then institute their new police force under the flag of communism to restore civilization.

So what he did was legal?

When you start to support vigilantism like this, you are no different than the looters and rioters. This all is coming together in a really bad way and dangerous way for our country.

the one difference here is, you didn't start it. but if you allow looters and rioters to tear shit up - you're a fool if you expect people to sit back and let it happen night after night after night.

It's starting to look like you are following me around from thread to thread.

Can't understand how you can on the one hand condemn rioting (which I agree with that condemnation) and yet support this. It's internally inconsistent.

Vigilantism is lawlessness. No different than rioting. A 17 year old in no way should be out there in a hyper volatile protest with a high powered rifle. IF the facts so far are correct - and the situation if evolving - he shot and KILLED two people and badly injured a third. Self defense is one thing, but in the initial killing, that does NOT appear to be the case.

The picture of him coming out is also disturbing. Funny how a protestor, standing across the street holding up speakers gets shot in the face by a rubber bullet, is vilified as a jobless bum (despite no evidence of actual participation in rioting) but this guy, illegally carrying a high powered rifle (he's 17) is a "hero". MURDER IS NOT HEROIC.

Something is messed up is very messed up right now if this is a "hero". Police are heroes. Undisciplined private paramilitaries are not. They are as dangerous as mobs of rioters. And they are ANTI-LAW. Anyone who believes in taking the law into their own hands and meting out justice is NOT LAWFUL.

What do we know about this kid?

Who is Kyle Rittenhouse? Here's what we know about the 17-year-old charged in the Kenosha protest shooting.

Before he took his rifle to confront the unrest in Kenosha, Wis., on Tuesday, allegedly killing two people and injuring another, Kyle Rittenhouse seemingly idolized one thing: the police. Growing […]

www.boston.com

But brief accounts from neighbors and local institutions paint the picture of a high school dropout who viewed law enforcement officers as his personal heroes.​

​

So much so that, when massive protests, looting and fires broke out in Kenosha following the police shooting of Jacob Blake on Sunday, he crossed state lines to offer his support to local policemen – at times, speaking as if their duties were his, too.​

Police are heavily trained, and they know the law. These guys don't. They have no business acting like police.

There are WAY TOO MANY armed people at these protests and that includes "the left" - you once said once you bring firearms to a protest it is no longer peaceful. Still believe that?

There are WAY TOO MANY OUTSIDERS at these events - both "protestors" and "counter protestors" - they need to be thrown out of town.

Here is what one person said - is she right?

“Maybe he thought he was doing the right thing, but you don’t kill somebody,” she said. “That’s not your business to kill someone for messing with someone else’s business. That’s for the cops to deal with.”​

Hmmm, one of the thugs he killed was a pedo who served 12 years, and the other raped and tortured his girlfriend. Fine upstanding citizens those two were.

The last guy was armed with a pistol and the leader of a communist group who wants to destroy the USA.

I should care about violent felons why?

Just out of morbid curiosity; one of our more prominent posters here did time in prison. If he were shot dead by some guy who just wanted to kill someone, would you care?

First off the dead felons were trying to attack the kid. At that point I simply don't give a shit what happens to them.

They already have shown they don't care about the Rights of others, and they were trying to kill this kid, so no, good riddance to bad rubbish.

Great way to promote senseless killing on top of senseless rioting.

I'm beyond disgusted by what's happening on all sides.

Everyone seems to listen to the same echo chamber here. The so-called claims of "violent rape and assault" and "pedophilia" were deliberately made up to slander them. How low can you go West short of killing someone? Here's an idea for a start - go to the WI Sex Offender Registry and type in his name. Anything pop up? That is a start at trying untangle this complete mess of layered fakery, bogus claims, and incitements for more violence on both sides.

Second. If you claim these three men (2 dead and 1 injured) were rioters, please show it. Acts of rioting, looting and arson are illegal, we all agree on that. Show us that is what THOSE THREE PEOPLE were doing. Are you claiming EVERYONE at the protest was engaged in arson and looting? Then that must include the kid and the armed private militia people right? Or - wait - are you going to make some distinctions? hmmm....how about Right = lawful, Left = unlawful = legitimate....cause that's where you guys are going with this. That's a good starting point for killing people huh? No need to mess around trying to figure out who is engaged in unlawful activity and who is not. Now, if only there is some way to identify them before we kill them and have to make up crap to justify it.

So what happened here?

Here's one news account with no speculation:

Social media footage surfaced surrounding the late-night fatal shooting during unrest. Witness accounts and video indicate the gunman first shot someone at a car lot just before midnight, but details on what sparked that shooting weren't immediately clear. ​

​

The alleged gunman then jogged away, fell in the street, and opened fire again as members of the crowd closed in on him, some appearing to kick and grab at his weapon. According to witness accounts and video footage, police apparently let the gunman walk past them and leave the scene with a rifle over his shoulder and his hands in the air as members of the crowd were yelling for him to be arrested because he had shot people.​

​

When asked why the gunman was not arrested in the moment, Kenosha County Sheriff David Beth said he couldn't say for certain, but noted the chaos surrounding officers that night.​

Since it's all caught on video, it's pretty damn hard to JUSTIFY but easier to UNDERSTAND the shootings - the fact he was there and (illegally) armed to begin with and the fact he was allowed to simply walk away and return to another state and the fact that in that video there was NO criminal behavior being conducted by any of the dead or injured victims speak for themselves. The rest is speculation, differing accounts, deliberate disinformation, witness statements and armchair quarterbacks directing a brief video.

So here are the questions:

WHY WAS A 17 YEAR OLD THERE????? WITH THAT KIND OF WEAPON???? Regardless of what was going on....no one else got shot. Regardless of how I personally feel about private militias (which, as you know, is pretty negative) - THEY didn't shoot anyone either. The police refused to deputize these citizens...for good reason, but they were and imo it's fine to do so - allowed to guard private property. That is FINE. That is what this kid was supposed to be doing, but he LEFT his spot. If he had stayed there nothing would have happened! He was in over his head and he panicked, understandably, when people in the crowd tried to restrain him and get rid of his weapon. As far as anyone could see - the kid was another mass shooter...like Parkland, or any number of events. How could anyone know otherwise when they witness a man shot in the head and another man trotting away with a rifle? He wasn't law enforcement. No badge. No ID. WE FAILED HIM BY ALLOWING HIM TO BE THERE! He is not a hero. He is not a thug. He's a mixed up kid, who badly wanted to be a policeman, who idolized law enforcement, who carried a MEDIC bag in case any protestors needed help, and damn, I just end up crying for HIM, for this one ruined life, someone who really did not seem to have any malice. The dead are dead, but he will have to live with this. It's so wrong.

WHO SHOULD WE BLAME for the riots? Oh, I know the answer that will come from some - commie lefties. Democrats. Sheesh. Get a new playbook. Responsibility ultimately comes down on the mayor. He, along with the city council are responsible for ensuring the safety of his citizens, and their livelyhoods and their homes. Just like if you are the president - it doesn't really matter what you do or don't do - the buck stops here.

But there is a bit more than that because nothing is really simple unless you are a business that got burned out, or the fiancé, with a 2 yr old daughter, of a man who is now dead and slandered, or a 17 year old kid who will now be facing a life he never envisioned, or the family of a man brutally shot in the back at close range, and you just want justice.

What could have been done differently?

Let's start at the beginning. What sparked the demonstrations that then turned into rioting?

A video. A video showing police come up to a man, leaning into his car, grabbing him by the shirt, pulling him back and pumping multiple rounds into his back at close range. It was brutal and against the backdrop of so many videos showing (justifiable and unjustifiable) police violence - there should be no surprise at public reaction. I don't care who the man was, there is no way to watch that (if you are a normal person) and not be horrified. This is our new reality - videos. Of EVERYTHING. Harder to sweep things under the rug, easier to spin, misconstrue, take out of context. Easier to inflame "the masses". Easier to see wrong doing.

What preceded that? Attempts at police reform by the Wisconsin governor, stalled by the legislature. Maybe, just maybe, if people see that something is happening and something is being done, and there is transparency the potential for violence is less. The governor is attempting, AGAIN, to pass it

Yet, the mayor himself appears to be tone deaf to his constituency. If he doesn't listen to the other half, and he fails to provide law and order, he's going to deservedly lose re-election. One example - curfews. A good way to tamp down the potential for violence which always seems to escalate at night. There are demonstrations ongoing described as "mostly peaceful". There is supposed to be a curfew. It's NOT BEING ENFORCED. What the hell?

What is your solution? Blame "commies"? Get real. We have a perfect storm with bitter political divisions at EVERY LEVEL, widespread public anger and unrest, a lot of restrictions and confusion with a pandemic, widespread distrust of our leadership, huge unemployment, Congress incapable of doing their job, a hugely divisive and incompetent president, and the worst recession in ages and more internet disinformation than ever before. Take your pick - it all feeds into the unrest.

But I will say this, I was wrong on one thing, I am now agreeing with you that we need law and order more than ever - we need to stop the violence and that means addressing ALL the participants, not politicizing who to go after. But that can't be with private militias, because they become PART of the problem, fed by the same disinformation as the rest of us. Private entities can guard private property but they have no business roaming the streets or public areas and if they kill someone, they face the law on that. The police and our national guard are the ones who need to be doing this. It's their job, it's what they are trained for. Crowd control. Arresting looters and arsonists. Enforcing curfews.

This kid is not a hero. He's a victim. And we are all to blame.

Amazing how each end has 20/20 vision on the misdeeds of the other end, and are completely blind to their own.

The adults in the room had better take control pretty fucking soon. Wherever they are.

It’s far too late to beg for peace now.
You “adults in the room” should have spoke up long ago against the Lefts shameless attemps to “fundamentally change” our once great nation.
Conservatives have finally put down their Bibles, they’ve become retaliatory and fully engaged, that has you adults in room/passive Leftists pissing your little pink panties.
Deal with it...ITS ON!

It's what you and your ilk have always wanted. Another civil war.

No, most just want to be left alone and retain some liberty. The constant bullshit and TAKING liberty is what is causing peaceful people like me to feel bloodthirsty and murderous. The past year has sent me into hate-filled rage like I never thought possible.

Why?

Because agitators who are UNDENIABLY Marxist have been shitty all over our nation and making life nearly intolerable, AND THE FAKE ALLEGED PAEUDO WANNABE "LIBERALS" ARE STANDING BY AND APPLAUDING IT!!!!

Guess what? I look at my almost two year old son and my anger goes away. It’s ok my friend. I will finally exercise my god given right to carry a firearm after not doing so for 3 years. I’m ready now. My son and family come first and I’ll end a savages life should they bri g harm to them or me.

Then shoot yourself first fucker. Because whites like you are the savages.

You’re such a racist. I never mentioned ethnicity or race, etc.

A savage is a savage.

You don’t even know me. Do you hate white people everywhere you go?

Look, I've lived 59 years black. I've seen racism in every form, so don't try pulling that bullshit after you call a white kid who murdered 2 people a patriot. Those people are angry because the cops shot a man 7 times in the back while grabbing his shirt. You have tried justifying this with a lie of how the shooter was attacked and you tried justifying the police shooting with the lie of resisting arrest. If the kid had been black you would not be calling him a patriot. And my opposition to your comment was neither racist or hateful. But you have ignored the cause of the problem and now sit ready to shoot people claiming that you will be defending your family. What are you defending them from? People marching down the street. And instead of questioning the police you make excuses justifying their wrong actions. Those like you are making the problem worse.

 

[IM2]

...and I have to wonder...this particular event started with Blake, by all accounts a man who loved his children, shot at close range, right in front of his kids...does any think about them?

To keep yourself from appearing foolish, I’d advise you to familiarize yourself with the causation principle.

You might be wise to do that yourself.

 

[westwall]

This boy has the right to self-defense.

Period.

So do the guys he's shooting.

not when they are attempting to murder him.

You mean after he attempted to murder them? Oh wait. He did. No attempt about it. The two he killed weren't even armed....(and yes I'm using "murder" loosely because nuance means nothing here).

You are factually wrong. The kid was RUNNING away from the first guy he shot. He was then RUNNING AWAY from the next two guys he shot. What part of RUNNING away is not making it through your head?

What part of he shouldn't have shot them or, IN FACT - let's be FACTUAL - what part of he had no business being there? You know how I feel about vigilantism, and private militias accountable to no one, so I won't go there. But at least the ADULTS who were there protecting private property, managed NOT to kill anyone, NOT to "lose it", NOT to get into a situation like that. Only HE DID. And you can't blame the guys chasing him - he KILLED someone already. And he was armed ILLEGALLY. It should never have happened.

Unfortunately, the intangibles you’ve mentioned are conjecture. It’s more emotion that reality.

This boy has the right to self-defense.

Period.

So do the guys he's shooting.

not when they are attempting to murder him.

You mean after he attempted to murder them? Oh wait. He did. No attempt about it. The two he killed weren't even armed....(and yes I'm using "murder" loosely because nuance means nothing here).

You are factually wrong. The kid was RUNNING away from the first guy he shot. He was then RUNNING AWAY from the next two guys he shot. What part of RUNNING away is not making it through your head?

What part of he shouldn't have shot them or, IN FACT - let's be FACTUAL - what part of he had no business being there? You know how I feel about vigilantism, and private militias accountable to no one, so I won't go there. But at least the ADULTS who were there protecting private property, managed NOT to kill anyone, NOT to "lose it", NOT to get into a situation like that. Only HE DID. And you can't blame the guys chasing him - he KILLED someone already. And he was armed ILLEGALLY. It should never have happened.

You’re argument doesn’t hold water simply because it is an opinion. Now, should he have been there? He had every right. It is irrelevant that he was younger, underage, or had a gun illegally. He was attacked by grown adults in a mob as far as I know a this point, without provocation.

I counter with this, the convicted felon with a gun drawn as Kyle was sitting on the ground should not have been there either. Had the savages never advanced at Kyle, nothing would have happened.

A similar case in terms of illegally using or possessing a firearm is happening in Virginia.

An employee used a gun against three people as they broke into his place of employment. He was sleeping there that night and used the gun to defend himself and the property. He cant posses or use a firearm. The firearm was not his, it was his boss who owned it. So, is he justified or does he simply get killed? It’s tough but, I would think the circumstances would allow for defense of ones self. Different but similar to Kenosha.

He was not attacked by anyone. And Coyote was right when she said he should not have been there. He drove up from Illinois to shoot people.

or just tryna be famous. bruh.

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Kyle wasn’t attacked? At all? You mean never happened at all?

Should I call the authorities on people who want to be famous? Easy to assume he wanted to kill people.

There is no evidence he was attacked. And why did he drive up from Illinois?

Excuse me. He was chased by the same guy who on video, witnesses have verified, kept being aggressive toward the people protecting the store. The witness that was closest too the pedophile with a hole in his head, stated he attempted to grab Kyles gun after Kyle stopped running. Stay in reality.

Example...if you decided to chase me down and I run away with my rifle in hand. Clearly, I’m avoiding confrontation. If i decide I can’t run anymore you’d better stop. The savage got what he deserved.

Bullshit. This boy drove up to Kenosha from Illinois. He was underage and out past curfew. He was not avoiding anything. He was looking for trouble. Because if he wanted to avoid something, his punk ass would have stayed home in Illinois.

He works in Kenosha. He traveled around 20 miles. Much less than the BLM assholes being trucked in from all over the country.

 

[IM2]

Of course he does. We know what this kid was, don't lie about him.

 

[impuretrash]

Of course he does. We know what this kid was, don't lie about him.

There's no need to lie when the entire incident is captured on video proving a clear case of self defense and incredible restraint on the part of a mere 17 year old boy.

 

[Slade3200]

The Great Patriot, Defender of Kenosha and Guardian of Republic, Kyle Rittenhouse, will be acquitted by a Jury of his Peers, the townsfolk of Kenosha who have suffered immense harm by the hands of Rioters, Rapists, Arsonists, Looters and Thugs.

Two nights ago, the Great Patriot, Defender of Kenosha, and Guardian of the Republic, Kyle Rittenhouse, suppressed an unlawful riot in Kenosha where countless businesses have been burnt down, looted and forced out of business.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The police were no where to be found, unable to act and carry out their function of maintaining Law and Order.

So the citizens of the area took up arms, exercising their Second Amendment right to suppress violent riot, arson and looting and to suppress a communist insurrection.

It's almost as if the far left wants to take our Second Amendment rights so they can abolish the police and then rain chaos upon our communities (problem, reaction...solution?), and then institute their new police force under the flag of communism to restore civilization.

We’re the people that he killed looting and rioting? I haven’t heard. What exactly were they doing?

 

[candycorn]

The 2nd Amendment mentions riots, arson and looting and communism?

Yeah, it does......

TYRANTS

Actually it doesn't.

 

[IM2]

Of course he does. We know what this kid was, don't lie about him.

There's no need to lie when the entire incident is captured on video proving a clear case of self defense and incredible restraint on the part of a mere 17 year old boy.

Then stop lying.

 

[IM2]

You racists don't seem to understand what you are supporting.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Maybe it's time for us as a country to have a serious conversation about guns and gun rights. Something to think about.

All this unrest over police shootings and brutality, which usually involves a shooting.

Why do many of these police shootings occur? Because the police, in many cases, are genuinely afraid that the victim might have been armed so they shoot first.

Why are there so damn many guns at these demonstrations? How exactly can you have a peaceful demonstration WITH the presence of so many armed people?

Hell - I used to think demonstrations were a bunch of people with signs and chants marching up and down in front of some targeted area. I never saw armed people. I never saw guns. If Kyle hadn't been armed this wouldn't have happened. If the injured guy hadn't had a gun he too might not have been shot.

Guns don't belong in demonstrations period. Unless it's the police. We have a sick gun culture here. Not a practical one. A sick one, that worships one right to the point of drooling insanity. Anywhere else in the world a gun is a tool, a tool to be respected and carefully used when necessary. Not an identity. Not an extension of power. Not a cultural identification. Not something you sling over your shoulder as you walk into the 7-11.

Other comparable western countries deal with police violence, but not anywhere near level of deaths and I'm willing to bet they don't have as many police killed in the line of duty as we do either.

It's crazy.

if more people stopped lying about whats actually happening then we can make progress,,until then the 2nd amendment stands and all criminals and america haters need to know we will fight for our country so our children dont have to,,,


STOP DESTROYING THINGS!!!!

Let's see...the videos don't show the dead guys destroying anything. Strike one for your honesty.

The guy with the skateboard was trying to wrestle gun from Rittenhouse - and was shot in the stomach.

The unknown, unless you've got a video, is the circumstances of the first shooting. The dead guy can't give his account. But there were witnesses. Unknown too is why Kyle was OFF the private property he was supposed to be guarding. Got a video for that?

What's offing outrageous is if this was reversed you would be calling two of those guys HEROS for attempting to stop an ACTIVE SHOOTER who had already SHOT AND KILLED A MAN. You can't even keep your standards consistent can you?

In my opinion - the second and third shootings COULD go as self defense, he was scared, he tripped, he fell, Hubor was trying to wrest his gun from him and the other guy was pointing a gun at him. But both men, from accounts so far, were trying to stop what they saw as an active shooter. They certainly didn't deserve to die but...hey - they are leftists therefore in your mind they deserved it.

Rittenhouse had no way of knowing he wouldn't be killed.

Hubor and Grosskreutz had no way of knowing Rittenhouse wasn't going to shoot a bunch more people if he got away.

Rittenhouse was ILLEGALLY armed.

Now, you guys are all about citizen arrest stuff, trying to stop shooters, not waiting for the police. So what's up with that? It only applies to your side?

Ultimately - two people are dead who shouldn't be, who committed no crime that has been presented.
Two families are destroyed, two children are left without a father and step father.
A 17 yr old's life is forever ruined. He was illegally armed, shouldn't have been there, so it's unlikely he will get off with self defense nor should he. He isn't charged with murder (nor should he have been) but he is charged with homicide.
The police are going to come off looking really bad in this.

And you think Rittenhouse is a hero.

Ultimately two violent criminals are dead while a 3rd is gravely wounded.....it is a good day in america and Rittenhouse is a hero. Oh fyi, atleast one was a wife beater so the families are safer and now have a chance.....

BTW, did any of these criminals have an actual JOB?

 

[Turtlesoup]

...and I have to wonder...this particular event started with Blake, by all accounts a man who loved his children, shot at close range, right in front of his kids...does any think about them?

Had he not resisted he’d be alive. That is a common theme with most of these recent shootings by police. Why can’t people understand that?

All accounts?

Blake did not resist and whites resist arrest all the time and don't end up dead. If you aren't committing a crime there is no reason to be detained.

That is so so true...my white brother in law high on meth resisted arrest from a cop after stealing a car---he grabbed the cops flashlight nearly beat the cop to death with it and he didn't die-----the cops shot him 5 times including once in between the legs but he didn't die. Damn police bullets are racist.

 

[IM2]

 

[IM2]

Maybe it's time for us as a country to have a serious conversation about guns and gun rights. Something to think about.

All this unrest over police shootings and brutality, which usually involves a shooting.

Why do many of these police shootings occur? Because the police, in many cases, are genuinely afraid that the victim might have been armed so they shoot first.

Why are there so damn many guns at these demonstrations? How exactly can you have a peaceful demonstration WITH the presence of so many armed people?

Hell - I used to think demonstrations were a bunch of people with signs and chants marching up and down in front of some targeted area. I never saw armed people. I never saw guns. If Kyle hadn't been armed this wouldn't have happened. If the injured guy hadn't had a gun he too might not have been shot.

Guns don't belong in demonstrations period. Unless it's the police. We have a sick gun culture here. Not a practical one. A sick one, that worships one right to the point of drooling insanity. Anywhere else in the world a gun is a tool, a tool to be respected and carefully used when necessary. Not an identity. Not an extension of power. Not a cultural identification. Not something you sling over your shoulder as you walk into the 7-11.

Other comparable western countries deal with police violence, but not anywhere near level of deaths and I'm willing to bet they don't have as many police killed in the line of duty as we do either.

It's crazy.

if more people stopped lying about whats actually happening then we can make progress,,until then the 2nd amendment stands and all criminals and america haters need to know we will fight for our country so our children dont have to,,,


STOP DESTROYING THINGS!!!!

Let's see...the videos don't show the dead guys destroying anything. Strike one for your honesty.

The guy with the skateboard was trying to wrestle gun from Rittenhouse - and was shot in the stomach.

The unknown, unless you've got a video, is the circumstances of the first shooting. The dead guy can't give his account. But there were witnesses. Unknown too is why Kyle was OFF the private property he was supposed to be guarding. Got a video for that?

What's offing outrageous is if this was reversed you would be calling two of those guys HEROS for attempting to stop an ACTIVE SHOOTER who had already SHOT AND KILLED A MAN. You can't even keep your standards consistent can you?

In my opinion - the second and third shootings COULD go as self defense, he was scared, he tripped, he fell, Hubor was trying to wrest his gun from him and the other guy was pointing a gun at him. But both men, from accounts so far, were trying to stop what they saw as an active shooter. They certainly didn't deserve to die but...hey - they are leftists therefore in your mind they deserved it.

Rittenhouse had no way of knowing he wouldn't be killed.

Hubor and Grosskreutz had no way of knowing Rittenhouse wasn't going to shoot a bunch more people if he got away.

Rittenhouse was ILLEGALLY armed.

Now, you guys are all about citizen arrest stuff, trying to stop shooters, not waiting for the police. So what's up with that? It only applies to your side?

Ultimately - two people are dead who shouldn't be, who committed no crime that has been presented.
Two families are destroyed, two children are left without a father and step father.
A 17 yr old's life is forever ruined. He was illegally armed, shouldn't have been there, so it's unlikely he will get off with self defense nor should he. He isn't charged with murder (nor should he have been) but he is charged with homicide.
The police are going to come off looking really bad in this.

And you think Rittenhouse is a hero.

Ultimately two violent criminals are dead while a 3rd is gravely wounded.....it is a good day in america and Rittenhouse is a hero. Oh fyi, atleast one was a wife beater so the families are safer and now have a chance.....

BTW, did any of these criminals have an actual JOB?

It's amazing the shit you racists make up.

 

[Coyote]

Maybe it's time for us as a country to have a serious conversation about guns and gun rights. Something to think about.

All this unrest over police shootings and brutality, which usually involves a shooting.

Why do many of these police shootings occur? Because the police, in many cases, are genuinely afraid that the victim might have been armed so they shoot first.

Why are there so damn many guns at these demonstrations? How exactly can you have a peaceful demonstration WITH the presence of so many armed people?

Hell - I used to think demonstrations were a bunch of people with signs and chants marching up and down in front of some targeted area. I never saw armed people. I never saw guns. If Kyle hadn't been armed this wouldn't have happened. If the injured guy hadn't had a gun he too might not have been shot.

Guns don't belong in demonstrations period. Unless it's the police. We have a sick gun culture here. Not a practical one. A sick one, that worships one right to the point of drooling insanity. Anywhere else in the world a gun is a tool, a tool to be respected and carefully used when necessary. Not an identity. Not an extension of power. Not a cultural identification. Not something you sling over your shoulder as you walk into the 7-11.

Other comparable western countries deal with police violence, but not anywhere near level of deaths and I'm willing to bet they don't have as many police killed in the line of duty as we do either.

It's crazy.

if more people stopped lying about whats actually happening then we can make progress,,until then the 2nd amendment stands and all criminals and america haters need to know we will fight for our country so our children dont have to,,,


STOP DESTROYING THINGS!!!!

Let's see...the videos don't show the dead guys destroying anything. Strike one for your honesty.

The guy with the skateboard was trying to wrestle gun from Rittenhouse - and was shot in the stomach.

The unknown, unless you've got a video, is the circumstances of the first shooting. The dead guy can't give his account. But there were witnesses. Unknown too is why Kyle was OFF the private property he was supposed to be guarding. Got a video for that?

What's offing outrageous is if this was reversed you would be calling two of those guys HEROS for attempting to stop an ACTIVE SHOOTER who had already SHOT AND KILLED A MAN. You can't even keep your standards consistent can you?

In my opinion - the second and third shootings COULD go as self defense, he was scared, he tripped, he fell, Hubor was trying to wrest his gun from him and the other guy was pointing a gun at him. But both men, from accounts so far, were trying to stop what they saw as an active shooter. They certainly didn't deserve to die but...hey - they are leftists therefore in your mind they deserved it.

Rittenhouse had no way of knowing he wouldn't be killed.

Hubor and Grosskreutz had no way of knowing Rittenhouse wasn't going to shoot a bunch more people if he got away.

Rittenhouse was ILLEGALLY armed.

Now, you guys are all about citizen arrest stuff, trying to stop shooters, not waiting for the police. So what's up with that? It only applies to your side?

Ultimately - two people are dead who shouldn't be, who committed no crime that has been presented.
Two families are destroyed, two children are left without a father and step father.
A 17 yr old's life is forever ruined. He was illegally armed, shouldn't have been there, so it's unlikely he will get off with self defense nor should he. He isn't charged with murder (nor should he have been) but he is charged with homicide.
The police are going to come off looking really bad in this.

And you think Rittenhouse is a hero.

Ultimately two violent criminals are dead while a 3rd is gravely wounded.....it is a good day in america and Rittenhouse is a hero. Oh fyi, atleast one was a wife beater so the families are safer and now have a chance.....

BTW, did any of these criminals have an actual JOB?

You guys are unreal. Why the hell does that matter especially given the unemployment rates?

I'm trying to understand your calculous here...and it's not making any sense.

Of course that might be because you are inventing crap about the victims to justify killing them.

You guys take the cake here.

 

[Coyote]

Maybe it's time for us as a country to have a serious conversation about guns and gun rights. Something to think about.

All this unrest over police shootings and brutality, which usually involves a shooting.

Why do many of these police shootings occur? Because the police, in many cases, are genuinely afraid that the victim might have been armed so they shoot first.

Why are there so damn many guns at these demonstrations? How exactly can you have a peaceful demonstration WITH the presence of so many armed people?

Hell - I used to think demonstrations were a bunch of people with signs and chants marching up and down in front of some targeted area. I never saw armed people. I never saw guns. If Kyle hadn't been armed this wouldn't have happened. If the injured guy hadn't had a gun he too might not have been shot.

Guns don't belong in demonstrations period. Unless it's the police. We have a sick gun culture here. Not a practical one. A sick one, that worships one right to the point of drooling insanity. Anywhere else in the world a gun is a tool, a tool to be respected and carefully used when necessary. Not an identity. Not an extension of power. Not a cultural identification. Not something you sling over your shoulder as you walk into the 7-11.

Other comparable western countries deal with police violence, but not anywhere near level of deaths and I'm willing to bet they don't have as many police killed in the line of duty as we do either.

It's crazy.

if more people stopped lying about whats actually happening then we can make progress,,until then the 2nd amendment stands and all criminals and america haters need to know we will fight for our country so our children dont have to,,,


STOP DESTROYING THINGS!!!!

Let's see...the videos don't show the dead guys destroying anything. Strike one for your honesty.

The guy with the skateboard was trying to wrestle gun from Rittenhouse - and was shot in the stomach.

The unknown, unless you've got a video, is the circumstances of the first shooting. The dead guy can't give his account. But there were witnesses. Unknown too is why Kyle was OFF the private property he was supposed to be guarding. Got a video for that?

What's offing outrageous is if this was reversed you would be calling two of those guys HEROS for attempting to stop an ACTIVE SHOOTER who had already SHOT AND KILLED A MAN. You can't even keep your standards consistent can you?

In my opinion - the second and third shootings COULD go as self defense, he was scared, he tripped, he fell, Hubor was trying to wrest his gun from him and the other guy was pointing a gun at him. But both men, from accounts so far, were trying to stop what they saw as an active shooter. They certainly didn't deserve to die but...hey - they are leftists therefore in your mind they deserved it.

Rittenhouse had no way of knowing he wouldn't be killed.

Hubor and Grosskreutz had no way of knowing Rittenhouse wasn't going to shoot a bunch more people if he got away.

Rittenhouse was ILLEGALLY armed.

Now, you guys are all about citizen arrest stuff, trying to stop shooters, not waiting for the police. So what's up with that? It only applies to your side?

Ultimately - two people are dead who shouldn't be, who committed no crime that has been presented.
Two families are destroyed, two children are left without a father and step father.
A 17 yr old's life is forever ruined. He was illegally armed, shouldn't have been there, so it's unlikely he will get off with self defense nor should he. He isn't charged with murder (nor should he have been) but he is charged with homicide.
The police are going to come off looking really bad in this.

And you think Rittenhouse is a hero.

Ultimately two violent criminals are dead while a 3rd is gravely wounded.....it is a good day in america and Rittenhouse is a hero. Oh fyi, atleast one was a wife beater so the families are safer and now have a chance.....

BTW, did any of these criminals have an actual JOB?

It's amazing the shit you racists make up.

Pretty unreal.

 

[Coyote]

The Great Patriot, Defender of Kenosha and Guardian of Republic, Kyle Rittenhouse, will be acquitted by a Jury of his Peers, the townsfolk of Kenosha who have suffered immense harm by the hands of Rioters, Rapists, Arsonists, Looters and Thugs.

Two nights ago, the Great Patriot, Defender of Kenosha, and Guardian of the Republic, Kyle Rittenhouse, suppressed an unlawful riot in Kenosha where countless businesses have been burnt down, looted and forced out of business.

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

The police were no where to be found, unable to act and carry out their function of maintaining Law and Order.

So the citizens of the area took up arms, exercising their Second Amendment right to suppress violent riot, arson and looting and to suppress a communist insurrection.

It's almost as if the far left wants to take our Second Amendment rights so they can abolish the police and then rain chaos upon our communities (problem, reaction...solution?), and then institute their new police force under the flag of communism to restore civilization.

We’re the people that he killed looting and rioting? I haven’t heard. What exactly were they doing?

I'm beginning to think we're in an internet creative writing class. They keep repeating the same stuff without substantiating it. I'm going to say A for effort but F for content.

 

[Turtlesoup]

Maybe it's time for us as a country to have a serious conversation about guns and gun rights. Something to think about.

All this unrest over police shootings and brutality, which usually involves a shooting.

Why do many of these police shootings occur? Because the police, in many cases, are genuinely afraid that the victim might have been armed so they shoot first.

Why are there so damn many guns at these demonstrations? How exactly can you have a peaceful demonstration WITH the presence of so many armed people?

Hell - I used to think demonstrations were a bunch of people with signs and chants marching up and down in front of some targeted area. I never saw armed people. I never saw guns. If Kyle hadn't been armed this wouldn't have happened. If the injured guy hadn't had a gun he too might not have been shot.

Guns don't belong in demonstrations period. Unless it's the police. We have a sick gun culture here. Not a practical one. A sick one, that worships one right to the point of drooling insanity. Anywhere else in the world a gun is a tool, a tool to be respected and carefully used when necessary. Not an identity. Not an extension of power. Not a cultural identification. Not something you sling over your shoulder as you walk into the 7-11.

Other comparable western countries deal with police violence, but not anywhere near level of deaths and I'm willing to bet they don't have as many police killed in the line of duty as we do either.

It's crazy.

if more people stopped lying about whats actually happening then we can make progress,,until then the 2nd amendment stands and all criminals and america haters need to know we will fight for our country so our children dont have to,,,


STOP DESTROYING THINGS!!!!

Let's see...the videos don't show the dead guys destroying anything. Strike one for your honesty.

The guy with the skateboard was trying to wrestle gun from Rittenhouse - and was shot in the stomach.

The unknown, unless you've got a video, is the circumstances of the first shooting. The dead guy can't give his account. But there were witnesses. Unknown too is why Kyle was OFF the private property he was supposed to be guarding. Got a video for that?

What's offing outrageous is if this was reversed you would be calling two of those guys HEROS for attempting to stop an ACTIVE SHOOTER who had already SHOT AND KILLED A MAN. You can't even keep your standards consistent can you?

In my opinion - the second and third shootings COULD go as self defense, he was scared, he tripped, he fell, Hubor was trying to wrest his gun from him and the other guy was pointing a gun at him. But both men, from accounts so far, were trying to stop what they saw as an active shooter. They certainly didn't deserve to die but...hey - they are leftists therefore in your mind they deserved it.

Rittenhouse had no way of knowing he wouldn't be killed.

Hubor and Grosskreutz had no way of knowing Rittenhouse wasn't going to shoot a bunch more people if he got away.

Rittenhouse was ILLEGALLY armed.

Now, you guys are all about citizen arrest stuff, trying to stop shooters, not waiting for the police. So what's up with that? It only applies to your side?

Ultimately - two people are dead who shouldn't be, who committed no crime that has been presented.
Two families are destroyed, two children are left without a father and step father.
A 17 yr old's life is forever ruined. He was illegally armed, shouldn't have been there, so it's unlikely he will get off with self defense nor should he. He isn't charged with murder (nor should he have been) but he is charged with homicide.
The police are going to come off looking really bad in this.

And you think Rittenhouse is a hero.

Ultimately two violent criminals are dead while a 3rd is gravely wounded.....it is a good day in america and Rittenhouse is a hero. Oh fyi, atleast one was a wife beater so the families are safer and now have a chance.....

BTW, did any of these criminals have an actual JOB?

You guys are unreal. Why the hell does that matter especially given the unemployment rates?

I'm trying to understand your calculous here...and it's not making any sense.

Of course that might be because you are inventing crap about the victims to justify killing them.

You guys take the cake here.

Oh it matters alright--3 able body men---all dems----all convicted criminals---all violently attack a child----and all without jobs. This is the dem party for you...these are the heros of the dem party. Their deaths or handicapping a good thing for society--they won't be able to harm others, steal as much, or beat their families or rape underage boys/girls.