Why not just provide insurance for the truly 4 million that need coverage???

[Soggy in NOLA]

Hey... why waste an opportunity to fuck up the entire system to help 15% of the population that only half of which actually want health insurance?

This is just another push by the statists to take total control of your life.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Your figures are false, healthmyths.

We all know that.

Ask the GOP why they did not fix it earlier is the right question, son.

Because statists such as your self Jakey Fakey would have accepted nothing short of any measure that didn't put us on a crash course with total State takeover.

That's who you Statist fucks are...

 

[healthmyths]

you might want to get yourself checked out somewhere dude.

you are WAY too strung out about these numbers.

this is your same thread that you've been posting over and over and over and over.

you don't think that's at all SICK? smh.

Again... THE ISSUE is you are NOT obviously concerned that this was BIG GIGANTIC LIE that was used to pass by just 7 votes
ACA which will NOW cost as many as 93 million people there existing health insurance!!!

Obviously you can't even subtract 18 million that didn't want insurance YET they are being forced to buy!
10 million that Obama admits aren't eligible i.e. illegal YET they were counted as part of the 46 million used to pass ACA!
Finally 14 million that didn't know all they had to do is register with Medicaid and idiots like you can't even subtract those numbers?
There never were 46 million uninsured!
4 million and yet you won't even admit that! WHY is that so hard to do??
I'll tell you! Because to admit THIS simple fact means your entire belief structure i.e. faith in the Messiah crumbles!!!
Obviously you ONLY voted for Obama because as a racist at heart the ONLY way to prove you weren't was to vote for him because he was black! Not because he was competent black because obviously if he and you can't even subtract 42 million from 46 million
duh!!!

 

[healthmyths]

Your figures are false, healthmyths.

We all know that.

Ask the GOP why they did not fix it earlier is the right question, son.

AGAIN..FACTS dummy!!!

BUT the problem is those anecdotes i.e. those that know their friends are "uninsured" etc. don't know the following:
A) is it possible the uninsured friend is NOT a legal citizens? The Census says there are 10 million counted as "uninsured' are NOT citizens.
10 million SOURCE: Income, Poverty and Health Insurance Coverage in the United States: 2009 - Income & Wealth - Newsroom - U.S. Census Bureau

YOU dispute the CENSUS????

B) Is it possible that the uninsured friend doesn't know they qualify for Medicaid... which is that 14 million people are eligible ... just haven't registered!
14 million SOURCE: http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf
Remember the Census asked these 14 million if they had insurance and they said no!
These 14 million though live at a poverty level that qualified them for Medicaid all they had to do is REGISTER!!!!


C) Is it possible the uninsured friend is under 34, makes over $50K and doesn't want to pay for employers' insurance 18 million people counted as uninsured
DON"T WANT IT!!!
18 million Source: CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009

Do you understand that it was totally BOGUS to count 18 million people that don't WANT health insurance even though they could afford it!
Are you that much of a socialist that EVERY ONE should HAVE ONE TV. ONE CELL PHONE. ONE CAR. ONE health insurance policy???
IS THAT what you quote liberal/progressive people really want???
Simple for question you... WHO determines you should have 1 tv,1 cell etc.... because YOU won't!

 

[deltex1]

How simple!
Obama admits that of the "46 million uninsured" that
10 million are NOT citizens... So that reduces it to 36 million!
Then Obama either ignores or more likely doesn't know that 14 million who said they were uninsured to the CENSUS all need to do is register with Medicaid!
That leaves 22 million of his 46 million phony number!
Finally WHY is it NECESSARY to force 18 million under age 34 making over $50k that pay out of their own pocket their health expenses?
That leaves 4 million....
So tax the lawyers that caused the doctors to attest they do "$850 billion a year in duplicate tests,etc" i.e. "defensive medicine" because they fear lawsuits!
That 10% tax of the $270 billion lawyers make would pay a $5,000 annual premium for each of the 4 million that truly need and want!

That simple... SO why not???

Because 4 million is not enough votes...they want all of them.

 

[healthmyths]

Hey JakeStarkey...
Where is your sources REFUTING the FACTS that:
Obama said there were 46 million you agree with that?
Obama ALSO said that illegal aliens would not be covered right?

Obama sought to clear up confusion and address many misleading statements about his proposals in a 2009 speech
before a rare and notable joint session of Congress.
Obama's words:
"Now, there are also those who claim that our reform efforts would insure illegal immigrants. This, too, is false," Obama said. "The reforms I am proposing would not apply to those who are here illegally."
Illegal Immigrants and Obamacare
Obama's words right ?
So when the CENSUS says 10 million of the the 46 million are not citizens...
subtract 10 million from 46 million leaves 36 million... NOT 46 million!

Then CBS News has confirmed that in Washington, of the more than 35,000 people newly enrolled, 87 percent signed up for Medicaid. In Kentucky, out of 26,000 new enrollments, 82 percent are in Medicaid. And in New York, of 37,000 enrollments, Medicaid accounts for 64 percent. And there are similar stories across the country in nearly half of the states that run their own exchanges.
Medicaid experts say they're not sure why they're seeing the lopsided enrollment numbers, but point out it's easier to enroll in Medicaid than private insurance.
Medicaid enrollment spike a threat to Obamacare structure? - CBS News

SO why did it take ACA to add the above WHEN according to the Census 14 million that were at the poverty level already were eligible???

14 million from 36 million leaves 22 million!!!

Finally why are 18 million people who Don't want, don't need and are paying their OWN annual health expense have to be forced to buy something???

Subtract 18 million that don't want from 22 million leaves 4 million!

JUST 4 million! So where in the hell are the 46 million????

 

[chikenwing]

Your figures are false, healthmyths.

We all know that.

Ask the GOP why they did not fix it earlier is the right question, son.

What are the figures?

 

[rdean]

Republicans want to cut veterans benefits, school lunches for children, support for the elderly. Who believes they want to help four million "anyone"?

Where do you come up with this shit? It's like the same lies being told in a circle jerk to the same idiots over, and over, and over.

I don't believe a word you just said.

It is all lies just like Obama and every other hardcore Liberal. You have no credibility. If you make such broad accusations post links and provide evidence. Otherwise, it is just bullshit, and a waste of everyone's time.

Senate GOP Obstructionists Throw Veterans Under The Bus-Vote Down Bill To Help Vets In Need Of Jobs - Forbes

Senator Tom Coburn holding up Veterans benefits bill

Republicans push bill to cut food stamps /school lunches - Austin Economy

House G.O.P. Plans a Budget That Cuts Medicare

Despite What Boehner Says, Republicans Have Voted To Cut Medicare, Repeatedly

There is absolutely no excuse for such outright ignorance and stupidity. Especially since you can use Google to find out the truth. Shame, shame, shame on you.

I constantly post links to everything I say. People like you are outright tards who could easily find out the truth.

 

[rdean]

Percentage of Americans Lacking Health Coverage

In 2012, the bureau said, 15.4 percent of people were uninsured, down from 15.7 percent in 2011. The number of uninsured people, 48 million, was not statistically different from the estimate of 48.6 million in 2011.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Your figures are false, healthmyths.

We all know that.

Ask the GOP why they did not fix it earlier is the right question, son.

Because statists such as your self Jakey Fakey would have accepted nothing short of any measure that didn't put us on a crash course with total State takeover.

That's who you Statist fucks are...

Well, that's your opinion, a stupid one, of course.

Why did not the GOP fix it when they could, Soggy? They are the fucks.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Your figures are false, healthmyths.

We all know that.

Ask the GOP why they did not fix it earlier is the right question, son.

What are the figures?

Don't you know?

 

[Geaux4it]

How simple!
Obama admits that of the "46 million uninsured" that
10 million are NOT citizens... So that reduces it to 36 million!
Then Obama either ignores or more likely doesn't know that 14 million who said they were uninsured to the CENSUS all need to do is register with Medicaid!
That leaves 22 million of his 46 million phony number!
Finally WHY is it NECESSARY to force 18 million under age 34 making over $50k that pay out of their own pocket their health expenses?
That leaves 4 million....
So tax the lawyers that caused the doctors to attest they do "$850 billion a year in duplicate tests,etc" i.e. "defensive medicine" because they fear lawsuits!
That 10% tax of the $270 billion lawyers make would pay a $5,000 annual premium for each of the 4 million that truly need and want!

That simple... SO why not???

Good question

-Geaux

 

[JakeStarkey]

Hey JakeStarkey...Where is your sources REFUTING the FACTS"

No, you don't get "Just once more" when you have been objectively refuted dozens of times, you fuck.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

It has nothing to do with healthcare and everything to do with control.

 

[bigrebnc1775]

That's the man that took my money that I haven't earned yet.

 

[hjmick]

Why not just provide insurance for the truly 4 million that need coverage???

Because if they did that, we wouldn't all be equal...

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

Why not just provide insurance for the truly 4 million that need coverage???

Because republicans would be opposed to it.

 

[Geaux4it]

Why not just provide insurance for the truly 4 million that need coverage???

Because if they did that, we wouldn't all be equal...

So, we are all equal now?

-Geaux

 

[healthmyths]

Hey JakeStarkey...Where is your sources REFUTING the FACTS"

No, you don't get "Just once more" when you have been objectively refuted dozens of times, you fuck.

Well just because you are so intelligent, compassionate, objective why not show me where the sources I provided were wrong?
The Census and Obama both agree there are 10 million illegals that were counted as "uninsured". That leaves 36 million.

The current enrollment of part of the 14 million that were eligible but didn't know because they are at poverty levels proves there only issue was "knowledge" !
Then CBS News has confirmed that in Washington, of the more than 35,000 people newly enrolled, 87 percent signed up for Medicaid. In Kentucky, out of 26,000 new enrollments, 82 percent are in Medicaid. And in New York, of 37,000 enrollments, Medicaid accounts for 64 percent. And there are similar stories across the country in nearly half of the states that run their own exchanges.
Medicaid experts say they're not sure why they're seeing the lopsided enrollment numbers, but point out it's easier to enroll in Medicaid than private insurance.
Medicaid enrollment spike a threat to Obamacare structure? - CBS News

The source a study of Census data showed 14 million people answered the Census but didn't know they qualified for Medicaid!
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

So that leaves 22 million of the original 46 million again Obama agrees 10 million are not legal.. 14 million didn't know they can be covered by Medicaid.
So now.. that leaves 18 million that are KNOWN to make over $50k are under 34 and spend an average of less then the cost of employers' plans... so why
were they counted as "uninsured" except to puff , blow up exaggerate the number?

18 million from 22 million leaves 4 million!
Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 -- over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009


WHERE are your counter arguments? I've more then sourced mine... show me yours!!!

 

[healthmyths]

Republicans want to cut veterans benefits, school lunches for children, support for the elderly. Who believes they want to help four million "anyone"?

Where do you come up with this shit? It's like the same lies being told in a circle jerk to the same idiots over, and over, and over.

I don't believe a word you just said.

It is all lies just like Obama and every other hardcore Liberal. You have no credibility. If you make such broad accusations post links and provide evidence. Otherwise, it is just bullshit, and a waste of everyone's time.

Senate GOP Obstructionists Throw Veterans Under The Bus-Vote Down Bill To Help Vets In Need Of Jobs - Forbes

Senator Tom Coburn holding up Veterans benefits bill

Republicans push bill to cut food stamps /school lunches - Austin Economy

House G.O.P. Plans a Budget That Cuts Medicare

Despite What Boehner Says, Republicans Have Voted To Cut Medicare, Repeatedly

There is absolutely no excuse for such outright ignorance and stupidity. Especially since you can use Google to find out the truth. Shame, shame, shame on you.

I constantly post links to everything I say. People like you are outright tards who could easily find out the truth.

Congratulations on your scholarship! I commend you for sourcing!

Now why not be an adult and show the sources that prove these numbers are WRONG?
You are so intelligent, compassionate, objective why not show me where the sources I provided were wrong?

The Census and Obama both agree there are 10 million illegals that were counted as "uninsured". That leaves 36 million.

The current enrollment of part of the 14 million that were eligible but didn't know because they are at poverty levels proves there only issue was "knowledge" !
Then CBS News has confirmed that in Washington, of the more than 35,000 people newly enrolled, 87 percent signed up for Medicaid. In Kentucky, out of 26,000 new enrollments, 82 percent are in Medicaid. And in New York, of 37,000 enrollments, Medicaid accounts for 64 percent. And there are similar stories across the country in nearly half of the states that run their own exchanges.
Medicaid experts say they're not sure why they're seeing the lopsided enrollment numbers, but point out it's easier to enroll in Medicaid than private insurance.
Medicaid enrollment spike a threat to Obamacare structure? - CBS News

The source a study of Census data showed 14 million people answered the Census but didn't know they qualified for Medicaid!
http://coverageforall.org/pdf/BC-BS_Uninsured-America.pdf

So that leaves 22 million of the original 46 million again Obama agrees 10 million are not legal.. 14 million didn't know they can be covered by Medicaid.

So now.. that leaves 18 million that are KNOWN to make over $50k are under 34 and spend an average of less then the cost of employers' plans... so why
were they counted as "uninsured" except to puff , blow up exaggerate the number?

18 million from 22 million leaves 4 million!
Nearly 18 million of the uninsured lived in households with annual incomes above $50,000 -- over half of them (9.7 million) in households with incomes that exceed $75,000 annually.
CRISIS OF THE UNINSURED: 2009


Source me where I am wrong!