Why should politicians allow ‘birthright citizenship’ and the 14th to remain as is? Do Americans or does America benefit from birthright citizenship?

[kyzr]

Give me your tired, your poor huddled masses yearning to breathe free

That was then, this is now.
Now we want specific workers with specific skills.

 

[kyzr]

They lacked the foresight and you lack the will and that's history folks. You lose.

We'll see if/when we get the Convention of States to fix a few Constitutional oversights.

 

[Curried Goats]

We'll see if/when we get the Convention of States to fix a few Constitutional oversights.

We won't even get that far.

 

[Resnic]

The ONLY way any forienger should be allowed to be a citizen is to go through the citizenship program. No exceptions.

And the citizenship program should cost 10,000 dollars or more. The applicant needs to demonstrate they are fully fluent in the English language (not just speak a little), show they understand American morals and standards and values. And they should have a temporary citizenship for 2 years, meaning as long as they pay taxes and don't comitt a felony at the end of the 2 years they can be a full fledged citizenship.

I do not believe you should be able to marry an American and become a citizen, no anchor babies, no illegals just given citizenship or anything

And we should start with kicking out all the illegals we have now and finishing the wall.

 

[d0gbreath]

We'll see if/when we get the Convention of States to fix a few Constitutional oversights.

That's been tried before. They got their asses kicked royally.

 

[Godboy]

Give me your tired, your poor huddled masses yearning to breathe free

Maybe once upon a time, but not anymore.

 

[Curried Goats]

The 14th Amendment birthright citizenship was designed to protect freed slaves.
It was not designed to give citizenship to the offspring of people who violated our immigration laws.

Can you tell me what immigration laws existed when the 14th was written?

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The 14th won't be amended.

We all win.

 

[surada]

Did our founders intend to screw Americans? Why would they frame an Amendment in such a way? Isn’t the 14th and the birthright citizenship clause the only clause and Amendment that does screw Americans?

You're challenging US sovereignty and jurisdiction.

 

[surada]

When the 14th was written the US was growing and wanted new citizens.
The writers could not envision America's enemies flying in pregnanent women to drop anchor and make a US citizen, and then use that baby's citizenship to gain entry for America's enemies.

Have you ever heard the words " legal theory"?

It might help you understand US sovereignty and jurisdiction..

 

[BrokeLoser]

Can you tell me what immigration laws existed when the 14th was written?

Thanks for the opportunity, I really enjoy enlightening ignorant fools… Let me know if there’s anything else you would like to learn about. You’re welcome in advance.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The 14th Amendment trumps (heh heh) the Founders.

You lost, so slither away.

 

[Curried Goats]

Thanks for the opportunity, I really enjoy enlightening ignorant fools… Let me know if there’s anything else you would like to learn about. You’re welcome in advance.
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Which the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment addresses.

 

[rightwinger]

Maybe once upon a time, but not anymore.

Very true
Conservatives only want wealthy immigrants or potential Trump brides

 

[The Sage of Main Street]

That was then, this is now.
Now we want specific workers with specific skills.

Give the Talented What the Ruling Class's Sons Get for College Life

Make the educational system more motivating and there will be no shortage of skilled native-born Americans. Today's Diploma Dumbos had no more right to even be accepted at college than they had to be on the college football team, which is based on talent and not unnatural brown-nosing sacrifice.

 

[Godboy]

Very true
Conservatives only want wealthy immigrants or potential Trump brides

Youre god damn right we want ONLY wealthy or educated immigrants.

 

[rightwinger]

Youre god damn right we want ONLY wealthy or educated immigrants.

Or Mail Order Brides

 

[Godboy]

Or Mail Order Brides

Im ok with that too because, that means there is a guy who is paying for her. Im not interested in welfare scrubs.

 

[rightwinger]

Im ok with that too because, that means there is a guy who is paying for her. Im not interested in welfare scrubs.

Most immigrants work very hard

 

[Godboy]

Most immigrants work very hard

Illegal immigrants cost us BILLIONS every year. I dont care how hard they work. They can work their asses back to wherever they came from as far as im concerned.