Why socialism will always end up the same way

While all of us are taken with the happily ever after scenarios that make some fairy tales so popular we know that reality is not that way. No…reality is instead cruel, pragmatic and totally unaffected by preference. This is why socialism never works. The mainstream schools of thought that promote it are always depending upon the shame factor to help people ignore the harsh realities of proven existence. Whether you look to history or you simply look to your own neighborhood success in life depends on more than just a good feeling or the idea that everyone can succeed regardless of their abilities. It just isn’t true. There’s a reason why the top one percent is the top one percent….like it or not the numbers themselves bear witness to life’s realities. Anyone who doubts this has only to look at how effectively socialism creates a top one percent or even a top .1 percent more quickly and more profoundly than capitalism ever did or ever will.

Indeed the yearning for this mindless egalitarianism produces philosophy that borders on the ludicrous and élan moral that borders on extremism and the ultimate forms of societal intolerance. In effect you have humans taking to the street to protest reality…..the word retarded comes to mind but unfortunately it just doesn’t do the job. So each generation must have its Stalin or its Mao before it learns the lesson again and again and again. We cycle through each catastrophic morphing of the deadly philosophy before we bust back down to the inescapable reality that life is not necessarily fair, that not everyone can achieve levels of dominance like the top one percent does and that all of the reasons we offer to explain that sad collection of facts usually fall short of the simple truth that the pattern is inescapable and will never stop repeating.

JO

The problem is very few countries have done Socialism (rather than socialism).

But China, Vietnam, Laos are all pushing ahead and have a sort of Socialism.
But you have demagogues like Bernie Sanders refer to both Western Europe and North Korea as "socialist". Does he understand that the two have stark differences or is he really that ignorant? Either way, you are looking at those in power in the US today who are either liars or, at best, incompetent law makers who don't know what they are doing. Either way, it is frightening because they are on the verge of changing your country as they lie to its citizens while doing it.
Leave the Left to Wallow in Its Own Pond Scum

Eject the Pinko States and form Great America. Deport all Democrats and their voters to the UN states. It's the only way to avoid sliding and slithering into Third World status.
 
Should we proclaim we have representative Capitalism in our representative Republic?
We the people should be changed to we the democrats.

Democrats run everything now and will in the future.

We live for them now.
Not in the Senate.
Democrats ran in Georgia on their run off election to take control of the Senate, and promised them such things as stimulus checks, etc. as well as big changes.

Well they were elected, they control the Senate.

So why are you not embracing their utopia?

 
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While all of us are taken with the happily ever after scenarios that make some fairy tales so popular we know that reality is not that way. No…reality is instead cruel, pragmatic and totally unaffected by preference. This is why socialism never works. The mainstream schools of thought that promote it are always depending upon the shame factor to help people ignore the harsh realities of proven existence. Whether you look to history or you simply look to your own neighborhood success in life depends on more than just a good feeling or the idea that everyone can succeed regardless of their abilities. It just isn’t true. There’s a reason why the top one percent is the top one percent….like it or not the numbers themselves bear witness to life’s realities. Anyone who doubts this has only to look at how effectively socialism creates a top one percent or even a top .1 percent more quickly and more profoundly than capitalism ever did or ever will.

Indeed the yearning for this mindless egalitarianism produces philosophy that borders on the ludicrous and élan moral that borders on extremism and the ultimate forms of societal intolerance. In effect you have humans taking to the street to protest reality…..the word retarded comes to mind but unfortunately it just doesn’t do the job. So each generation must have its Stalin or its Mao before it learns the lesson again and again and again. We cycle through each catastrophic morphing of the deadly philosophy before we bust back down to the inescapable reality that life is not necessarily fair, that not everyone can achieve levels of dominance like the top one percent does and that all of the reasons we offer to explain that sad collection of facts usually fall short of the simple truth that the pattern is inescapable and will never stop repeating.

JO
Born to Rule, Born to Ruin

Your shallow reality fails to distinguish between earned wealth and inherited wealth. Inherited wealth, property, position, and influence contradict and weaken Capitalism. To go even further, socialism originated in the Birth-Class Supremacy clique and was developed at the university, which is an obsolete aristocratic institution specifically designed for students with an independent income.

After the French Revolution, many of the surviving European aristocrats felt their class was doomed unless they took over the democratic movements and plotted to turn them into elitist oligarchies. Marx's own wife was a countess; that's all you need to know about Marxism. Engels, of course, was an HeirHead. QED.
nope....I am fully aware of the Born-rich-brat class.....however don't let it be lost on you that some of them fall to poverty when their oversight is gone and that some of them learn the secrets of how to stay rich.... It's all part of the same system... So much in equals so much out. It boils down to individual determination.... " The swift do not always win the race nor do the Strongest always win the contest "
The Road to Perdition Is Patrician


While all of us are taken with the happily ever after scenarios that make some fairy tales so popular we know that reality is not that way. No…reality is instead cruel, pragmatic and totally unaffected by preference. This is why socialism never works. The mainstream schools of thought that promote it are always depending upon the shame factor to help people ignore the harsh realities of proven existence. Whether you look to history or you simply look to your own neighborhood success in life depends on more than just a good feeling or the idea that everyone can succeed regardless of their abilities. It just isn’t true. There’s a reason why the top one percent is the top one percent….like it or not the numbers themselves bear witness to life’s realities. Anyone who doubts this has only to look at how effectively socialism creates a top one percent or even a top .1 percent more quickly and more profoundly than capitalism ever did or ever will.

Indeed the yearning for this mindless egalitarianism produces philosophy that borders on the ludicrous and élan moral that borders on extremism and the ultimate forms of societal intolerance. In effect you have humans taking to the street to protest reality…..the word retarded comes to mind but unfortunately it just doesn’t do the job. So each generation must have its Stalin or its Mao before it learns the lesson again and again and again. We cycle through each catastrophic morphing of the deadly philosophy before we bust back down to the inescapable reality that life is not necessarily fair, that not everyone can achieve levels of dominance like the top one percent does and that all of the reasons we offer to explain that sad collection of facts usually fall short of the simple truth that the pattern is inescapable and will never stop repeating.

JO
Born to Rule, Born to Ruin

Your shallow reality fails to distinguish between earned wealth and inherited wealth. Inherited wealth, property, position, and influence contradict and weaken Capitalism. To go even further, socialism originated in the Birth-Class Supremacy clique and was developed at the university, which is an obsolete aristocratic institution specifically designed for students with an independent income.

After the French Revolution, many of the surviving European aristocrats felt their class was doomed unless they took over the democratic movements and plotted to turn them into elitist oligarchies. Marx's own wife was a countess; that's all you need to know about Marxism. Engels, of course, was an HeirHead. QED.
nope....I am fully aware of the Born-rich-brat class..... It's all part of the same system... So much in equals so much out. It boils down to individual determination.... " The swift do not always win the race nor do the Strongest always win the contest "
The Road to Perdition Is Patrician

Their Daddies set them up halfway to the finish line. Break their legs and let them crawl the rest of the way. Then we can call them "whiners." We can say to them, "Life isn't supposed to be fair!" Put-downs depend on who's on top; they aren't rational judgments.

It is no better than bribing the umpire so your son, the pitcher, can win the game. In that case, what kind of peasant mentality would come up with this submissive excuse for cowardice, "The best team doesn't always win. Meh"?
 
Government is social-ism (socialism). True free market Capitalism only exists in the third world since the fall of Mogadishu. And, Capitalism in the US "died in 1929" and was bailed out by FDR's brand of socialism.
Govt intervention causede the GD. Govt intervention is why it lasted so long. That isnt capitalism, burnout.
Artificial booms, Hoovers dumb ass intervened and pro longed the self fix to the market, FDR making hoovers mistakes worse etc
I dont think I have ever seen you say something, that made sense, as well as being correct.
 
Socialism rises from the failures of the market to serve some crucial need in society. There are some things you can't squeeze a profit from.
Socialism rises from the failures of responsibility, laziness and greed.
Socialism is what causes the market to fail.
If you can disprove that, I would love to see it.
 
Socialism rises from the failures of the market to serve some crucial need in society. There are some things you can't squeeze a profit from.
Oh I absolutely agree and once again I would never see capitalism as a perfect system only the most successful one. A wise man from Nazareth once said " You will always have the poor with you "......
Why is there any Government on Earth if (free market) Capitalism is so successful?
"free market capitalism" is a redundancy.
 
Socialism rises from the failures of the market to serve some crucial need in society. There are some things you can't squeeze a profit from.
Oh I absolutely agree and once again I would never see capitalism as a perfect system only the most successful one. A wise man from Nazareth once said " You will always have the poor with you "......
Too many people think capitalism is the same thing as free enterprise. American capitalism is thing of big banks, billionaires and pet politicians while small businesses get to pretend they are part of the club. They are not.
We are far from a capitalist country. Havent been for generations. "american capitalism" doesnt exist.
IDK if any of you know what capitalism actually is.
 
Socialism rises from the failures of the market to serve some crucial need in society. There are some things you can't squeeze a profit from.
Socialism rises from the failures of responsibility, laziness and greed.
Socialism is what causes the market to fail.
If you can disprove that, I would love to see it.
For me to disprove something you first have present a fleshed-out theory of how you think socialism actually causes market crashes instead of the people who actually control the economy and most of our nation's wealth.
 
Government is social-ism (socialism). True free market Capitalism only exists in the third world since the fall of Mogadishu. And, Capitalism in the US "died in 1929" and was bailed out by FDR's brand of socialism.
Govt intervention causede the GD. Govt intervention is why it lasted so long. That isnt capitalism, burnout.
Artificial booms, Hoovers dumb ass intervened and pro longed the self fix to the market, FDR making hoovers mistakes worse etc
I dont think I have ever seen you say something, that made sense, as well as being correct.
It was Hoover's brand of socialism that turned our relatively third world economy into a first world economy.
 
Should we proclaim we have representative Capitalism in our representative Republic?
We the people should be changed to we the democrats.

Democrats run everything now and will in the future.

We live for them now.
Not in the Senate.
Democrats ran in Georgia on their run off election to take control of the Senate, and promised them such things as stimulus checks, etc. as well as big changes.

Well they were elected, they control the Senate.

So why are you not embracing their utopia?


Bla Bla Bla the democrats would be voted in , if the republican's didn't suppress the votes in swing states.

Case in point, Desantis only won by 33,000 votes.
 
Government is social-ism (socialism). True free market Capitalism only exists in the third world since the fall of Mogadishu. And, Capitalism in the US "died in 1929" and was bailed out by FDR's brand of socialism.
Govt intervention causede the GD. Govt intervention is why it lasted so long. That isnt capitalism, burnout.
Artificial booms, Hoovers dumb ass intervened and pro longed the self fix to the market, FDR making hoovers mistakes worse etc
I dont think I have ever seen you say something, that made sense, as well as being correct.
It was Hoover's brand of socialism that turned our relatively third world economy into a first world economy.
Yes, he helped us out by prolonging the depression. Great post :lol:
 
Government is social-ism (socialism). True free market Capitalism only exists in the third world since the fall of Mogadishu. And, Capitalism in the US "died in 1929" and was bailed out by FDR's brand of socialism.
Govt intervention causede the GD. Govt intervention is why it lasted so long. That isnt capitalism, burnout.
Artificial booms, Hoovers dumb ass intervened and pro longed the self fix to the market, FDR making hoovers mistakes worse etc
I dont think I have ever seen you say something, that made sense, as well as being correct.
It was Hoover's brand of socialism that turned our relatively third world economy into a first world economy.
Yes, he helped us out by prolonging the depression. Great post :lol:
It was the outright socialism of a wartime economy that overcame the depression and achieved full employment not free market Capitalism.
 
Government is social-ism (socialism). True free market Capitalism only exists in the third world since the fall of Mogadishu. And, Capitalism in the US "died in 1929" and was bailed out by FDR's brand of socialism.
Govt intervention causede the GD. Govt intervention is why it lasted so long. That isnt capitalism, burnout.
Artificial booms, Hoovers dumb ass intervened and pro longed the self fix to the market, FDR making hoovers mistakes worse etc
I dont think I have ever seen you say something, that made sense, as well as being correct.
It was Hoover's brand of socialism that turned our relatively third world economy into a first world economy.
Yes, he helped us out by prolonging the depression. Great post :lol:
It was the outright socialism of a wartime economy that overcame the depression and achieved full employment not free market Capitalism.
prolong
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Government is social-ism (socialism). True free market Capitalism only exists in the third world since the fall of Mogadishu. And, Capitalism in the US "died in 1929" and was bailed out by FDR's brand of socialism.
Govt intervention causede the GD. Govt intervention is why it lasted so long. That isnt capitalism, burnout.
Artificial booms, Hoovers dumb ass intervened and pro longed the self fix to the market, FDR making hoovers mistakes worse etc
I dont think I have ever seen you say something, that made sense, as well as being correct.
It was Hoover's brand of socialism that turned our relatively third world economy into a first world economy.
Yes, he helped us out by prolonging the depression. Great post :lol:
It was the outright socialism of a wartime economy that overcame the depression and achieved full employment not free market Capitalism.
prolong
[prəˈlôNG]

VERB
  1. extend the duration of.
It was not free market Capitalism that won WWII or achieved full employment.
 
Government is social-ism (socialism). True free market Capitalism only exists in the third world since the fall of Mogadishu. And, Capitalism in the US "died in 1929" and was bailed out by FDR's brand of socialism.
Govt intervention causede the GD. Govt intervention is why it lasted so long. That isnt capitalism, burnout.
Artificial booms, Hoovers dumb ass intervened and pro longed the self fix to the market, FDR making hoovers mistakes worse etc
I dont think I have ever seen you say something, that made sense, as well as being correct.
It was Hoover's brand of socialism that turned our relatively third world economy into a first world economy.
Yes, he helped us out by prolonging the depression. Great post :lol:
It was the outright socialism of a wartime economy that overcame the depression and achieved full employment not free market Capitalism.
prolong
[prəˈlôNG]

VERB
  1. extend the duration of.
It was not free market Capitalism that won WWII or achieved full employment.
"Free market capitalism" is a redundancy. Please use proper terminology. In this context, it matters a lot ;)
 
Government is social-ism (socialism). True free market Capitalism only exists in the third world since the fall of Mogadishu. And, Capitalism in the US "died in 1929" and was bailed out by FDR's brand of socialism.
Govt intervention causede the GD. Govt intervention is why it lasted so long. That isnt capitalism, burnout.
Artificial booms, Hoovers dumb ass intervened and pro longed the self fix to the market, FDR making hoovers mistakes worse etc
I dont think I have ever seen you say something, that made sense, as well as being correct.
It was Hoover's brand of socialism that turned our relatively third world economy into a first world economy.
Yes, he helped us out by prolonging the depression. Great post :lol:
It was the outright socialism of a wartime economy that overcame the depression and achieved full employment not free market Capitalism.
prolong
[prəˈlôNG]

VERB
  1. extend the duration of.
It was not free market Capitalism that won WWII or achieved full employment.
"Free market capitalism" is a redundancy. Please use proper terminology. In this context, it matters a lot ;)
lol. It didn't win WWII or achieve full employment.
 
instead of the people who actually control the economy
The government? IE NOT Capitalism? :)
Do you understand now?
Not really. Just saying "The government" is not what you could call a theory. Besides, in a plutocracy like we have it's rather difficult to define where big business ends and the government begins.
If the govt controls the economy, it isnt capitalism. Which was my point.
I would lean towards corporatocracy, more than a plutocracy. But its definitely debatable :)
 

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