Why Trump Was Charged On Secret Documents And Clinton, Pence Were Not

[g5000]

Trump has not denied the boxes had the documents in them. Are you saying the classified documents were not in the boxes?

These morons have refused to read the indictment. It is no wonder they continuously make stupid statements.

 

[mak2]

These morons have refused to read the indictment. It is no wonder they continuously make stupid statements.

I try to help people not say stupid stuff on the internet. But they insist.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Read the indictment, losers.

 

[Couchpotato]

Read the OP....

You are trying to say these people did the same when they didn't...

It is not a crime on you if federal employee packs secret documents in you personal things... It is a crime if you find out and don't tell the athorties immediately..

In Clinton’s case it is a crime to utilize a private e-mail server for government business in order to avoid FOIA and as a result put classified information at risk. Comey said she broke the law.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

In Clinton’s case it is a crime to utilize a private e-mail server for government business in order to avoid FOIA and as a result put classified information at risk. Comey said she broke the law.

Then you better remind DOJ.

None of this has a thing to do with the enormity of what is coming down the road at Trump.

 

[Lesh]

So now explain why Biden was not raided, or charged with the theft of classified documents he stole from the secured SCIF as a Senator?

Because he did not try to hide or keep said docs

 

[Lesh]

In Clinton’s case it is a crime to utilize a private e-mail server for government business in order to avoid FOIA and as a result put classified information at risk. Comey said she broke the law.

Nope. Lie

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Trump and the DOJ have nothing to do with Clinton.

 

[Couchpotato]

Nope. Lie

Do I really need to post the video of Comey saying she broke the law but that a prosecutor would t indict her?

 

[dudmuck]

In Clinton’s case it is a crime to utilize a private e-mail server for government business in order to avoid FOIA and as a result put classified information at risk. Comey said she broke the law.

Comey: No evidence that Clinton acted with 'necessary criminal intent'

"I don't want to comment on people's public statements," Comey said in response to a question from Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Mich.).

www.politico.com

 

[2aguy]

"B-b-b-b-b-b-but Clinton!" "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Biden!" We've all heard these refrains from the Tu Quoque Brigade in every defense of Donald Trump's crimes.

So here's the difference with respect to the deliberate obstruction by Trump to keep classified documents.

Why Trump was charged on secret documents and Clinton, Pence were not​

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But the historic investigation into the former president was precipitated months earlier, in January 2022, when the former president gave 15 boxes of papers to the National Archives and Records Administration. The agency had been seeking all presidential records from Trump since he left office.

Inside the boxes, archivists found 197 classified documents, some extremely sensitive, the government alleged in court filings. That discovery set in motion the chain of events that led to the unsealing Friday of a 38-count indictment against Trump and Walt Nauta, a trusted servant.

Notably, however, the indictment does not charge Trump with the illegal retention of any of the 197 documents he returned to the archives.


If Trump had returned ALL the classified documents he took, as Biden, Pence, and Clinton had done, there would be no indictment.

It's as simple as that, folks.

Trump chose to hide several boxes of documents, some of which were classified, and that's why his ass is on fire now.

As for Clinton and her emails, what Trump said in private is VASTLY different than the bullshit he feeds to the rube herd:

But when discussing his own possible mishandling case last year, Trump seized on another facet of the Clinton probe: that attorneys for Clinton had reviewed more than 60,000 emails and turned over about 30,000 to government officials because they were deemed related to her official duties. Clinton’s lawyers deleted the rest, about 30,000 emails, after deeming them personal and unrelated to her work. It has long been standard practice in the federal government for officials to review their own correspondence in response to Freedom of Information Act requests and decide which of their emails are personal and therefore not turned over. In Clinton’s case, her lawyers did that for her.

As a candidate and president, Trump denounced the decision to delete the emails. In July 2016, he notoriously declared at a news conference: “Russia: if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”


When the grand jury subpoena for any classified documents arrived at his door, however, Trump expressed a very different view to his lawyer, according to the indictment, praising Clinton’s lawyer for deleting the 30,000 emails.

The Clinton lawyer, Trump allegedly said on May 23, 2022, “was the one who deleted all of her emails, the 30,000 emails, because they basically dealt with her scheduling and her going to the gym and her having beauty appointments. And he was great. And he, so she didn’t get in any trouble because he said that he was the one who deleted them.”

“Trump related the story more than once that day,” the indictment notes dryly.

Clinton didn't return the emails from her illegal server......she destroyed them.....along with all of the electronic devices she used........and she wasn't charged with any of it....

So before I get worked up over Trump, I will wait for her to be indicted, arrested, convicted and sentenced for her actual crimes....

She and her lawyers had no Right to destroy the emails that were under subpoena........she and her lawyers don't get to decide which ones are personal .............just ask any other criminal caught destroying evidence....when they try to tell the Feds....yeah, none of the stuff I destroyed was what you dudes wanted, so I can't be arrested for destroying evidence...

See how that flies...

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Clinton didn't return the emails from her illegal server......she destroyed them.....along with all of the electronic devices she used........and she wasn't charged with any of it....

So before I get worked up over Trump, I will wait for her to be indicted, arrested, convicted and sentenced for her actual crimes....

She and her lawyers had no Right to destroy the emails that were under subpoena........she and her lawyers don't get to decide which ones are personal .............just ask any other criminal caught destroying evidence....when they try to tell the Feds....yeah, none of the stuff I destroyed was what you dudes wanted, so I can't be arrested for destroying evidence...

See how that flies...

And what does that have to do with Trump's indictment? I don't think he destroyed evidence, he just lied and obstructed and so forth. To federal officers no less.

 

[Lesh]

Do I really need to post the video of Comey saying she broke the law but that a prosecutor would t indict her?

Probably since that didn't happen

 

[Couchpotato]

Comey: No evidence that Clinton acted with 'necessary criminal intent'

"I don't want to comment on people's public statements," Comey said in response to a question from Rep. Tim Walberg (R-Mich.).

www.politico.com

Clinton having broke the law doesn’t mean Trump did or didnt or excuse anything Trump did or didn’t do. Denying it happened when did doesn’t lend you any credibility.

 

[Couchpotato]

Probably since that didn't happen

Except that it did.

 

[2aguy]

Except that it did.

They actually think everyone is as stupid as a biden voter.....

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

 

[HeyNorm]

Because he did not try to hide or keep said docs

Except he did FOR OVER 15 YEARS after STEALING THEM!

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Except he did FOR OVER 15 YEARS after STEALING THEM!

Not deliberately, lilNorm, and there is your key. Trump deliberately lied and denied and hid the documents and wrongfully claimed (still claims) they are his. We can all send him paper docs to keep him busy in prison.

 

[JoeB131]

So if Trump’s bathroom ain’t much better than Biden’s garage, why the midnight raid on Trump, leading to an indictment, and a 2-week advance notice to Biden, so he could clear out the most incriminating docs?

Because Biden didn't fight the Archives on the documents. The minute he realized he had documents he shouldn't have, he turned them in. (Even though he is currently president and really didn't have to.)

Trump, on the other hand, took the documents, lied about turning them in.