Why Trump Was Charged On Secret Documents And Clinton, Pence Were Not

[mak2]

Aggressive, arrogant ignorance. That's Trumpism.

Last time I spent much time in the bowels of the R wing noise machine, a week ago or so, on one of the more conservative sites, they believe Biden is not POTUS, there is a stand in, Trump is actually running the country, and Putin and Trump a allied and stomping out child molestation and baby murder and blood drinking worldwide. You might think this is so crazy the mainstream conservatives would laugh it off and go on. They don't they just try not to talk about it in public. see MTG and her TV. The crazy you hear in this forum is crazy, but they go to more controlled environment, get fueled up on really crazy and come back out. But it is more than arrogant ignorance. It is just fantasy land.

 

[Mac1958]

Last time I spent much time in the bowels of the R wing noise machine, a week ago or so, on one of the more conservative sites, they believe Biden is not POTUS, there is a stand in, Trump is actually running the country, and Putin and Trump a allied and stomping out child molestation and baby murder and blood drinking worldwide. You might think this is so crazy the mainstream conservatives would laugh it off and go on. They don't they just try not to talk about it in public. see MTG and her TV. The crazy you hear in this forum is crazy, but they go to more controlled environment, get fueled up on really crazy and come back out. But it is more than arrogant ignorance. It is just fantasy land.

Yeah, I had one of them tell me here that Biden's actually gone and has a body double. Another told me the tape of Trump admitting he can't declassify is just AI.

This is a true group pathology. It's still a little difficult to believe that it has happened here.

The people you see here are the same people comedians interview at Trump rallies for laughs. The problem is, it's not funny.

 

[mak2]

Yeah, I had one of them tell me here that Biden's actually gone and has a body double. Another told me the tape of Trump admitting he can't declassify is just AI.

This is a true group pathology. It's still a little difficult to believe that it has happened here.

The people you see here are the same people comedians interview at Trump rallies for laughs. The problem is, it's not funny.

This would be funny sad if it was just 3% of the population. I would still feel bad for them but they would not threaten my country. We could really re elect this clown.

 

[Mac1958]

This would be funny sad if it was just 3% of the population. I would still feel bad for them but they would not threaten my country. We could really re elect this clown.

Exactly. 3% would be funny just because it's so weird, but harmless.

The damage this is doing isn't going to be repaired quickly, if at all.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Grow up, skippy. TrumpHoax weaponized his person and office to victimize the American voter

You mean, DEMOCRAT voter.

We are coming back!

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Yeah, I had one of them tell me here that Biden's actually gone and has a body double. Another told me the tape of Trump admitting he can't declassify is just AI.

This is a true group pathology. It's still a little difficult to believe that it has happened here.

The people you see here are the same people comedians interview at Trump rallies for laughs. The problem is, it's not funny.

Mac is not a Democrat cultist

 

[Mac1958]

Mac is not a Democrat cultist

Correct! Where does Mac1958 actually stand on the issues?

 

[Dr.Know]

Plus Democrats DESTROYING BLACK FAMILIES FOR VOTES.

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Gaslighting much?

You guys are the gaslighters

 

[Leviticus]

So now explain why Biden was not raided, or charged with the theft of classified documents he stole from the secured SCIF as a Senator?

They did exercise a search warrant on biden's Property. And they did the same thing to mike pence. Trump And his retarded followers are the only ones stupid enough to call Exercising a search warrant a raid.


They didn't bust down trump's door with a fucking battering ram. It was not a fucking raid.

 

[Rigby5]

Exactly. 3% would be funny just because it's so weird, but harmless.

The damage this is doing isn't going to be repaired quickly, if at all.

The only "damage" is the fact a prosecutor is getting away with deliberate interference in an election.
Something with no one has ever before tolerated.

 

[Rigby5]

They did exercise a search warrant on biden's Property. And they did the same thing to mike pence. Trump And his retarded followers are the only ones stupid enough to call Exercising a search warrant a raid.


They didn't bust down trump's door with a fucking battering ram. It was not a fucking raid.

Neither the judge nor the FBI had the authority to look at the classified docs that Trump was authorized to look at.

And the cases are entirely different.
Trump was president so then got these docs legally.

In contrast, Biden and Pence were only congressmen at the time they got these classified docs, so then their possession was completely illegal unless a president or ex-president allowed it.

 

[Lesh]

Neither the judge nor the FBI had the authority to look at the classified docs that Trump was authorized to look at.

And the cases are entirely different.
Trump was president so then got these docs legally.

In contrast, Biden and Pence were only congressmen at the time they got these classified docs, so then their possession was completely illegal unless a president or ex-president allowed it.

Fukkin Kremlin troll and everyone knows it

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

Rigby5 has no understanding of the situations at all. Trump had no protection at all to have any documents when he left the WH. When discovered and called for, he denied he had them then refused. Smith charged him, and Trump will be convicted. I don't think he will go to prison, but that is up to the Judge

 

[Lesh]

Rigby5 has no understanding of the situations at all. Trump had no protection at all to have any documents when he left the WH. When discovered and called for, he denied he had them then refused. Smith charged him, and Trump will be convicted. I don't think he will go to prison, but that is up to the Judge

Rigby is a Kremlin stooge

 

[surada]

"B-b-b-b-b-b-but Clinton!" "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Biden!" We've all heard these refrains from the Tu Quoque Brigade in every defense of Donald Trump's crimes.

So here's the difference with respect to the deliberate obstruction by Trump to keep classified documents.

Why Trump was charged on secret documents and Clinton, Pence were not​

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But the historic investigation into the former president was precipitated months earlier, in January 2022, when the former president gave 15 boxes of papers to the National Archives and Records Administration. The agency had been seeking all presidential records from Trump since he left office.

Inside the boxes, archivists found 197 classified documents, some extremely sensitive, the government alleged in court filings. That discovery set in motion the chain of events that led to the unsealing Friday of a 38-count indictment against Trump and Walt Nauta, a trusted servant.

Notably, however, the indictment does not charge Trump with the illegal retention of any of the 197 documents he returned to the archives.


If Trump had returned ALL the classified documents he took, as Biden, Pence, and Clinton had done, there would be no indictment.

It's as simple as that, folks.

Trump chose to hide several boxes of documents, some of which were classified, and that's why his ass is on fire now.

As for Clinton and her emails, what Trump said in private is VASTLY different than the bullshit he feeds to the rube herd:

But when discussing his own possible mishandling case last year, Trump seized on another facet of the Clinton probe: that attorneys for Clinton had reviewed more than 60,000 emails and turned over about 30,000 to government officials because they were deemed related to her official duties. Clinton’s lawyers deleted the rest, about 30,000 emails, after deeming them personal and unrelated to her work. It has long been standard practice in the federal government for officials to review their own correspondence in response to Freedom of Information Act requests and decide which of their emails are personal and therefore not turned over. In Clinton’s case, her lawyers did that for her.

As a candidate and president, Trump denounced the decision to delete the emails. In July 2016, he notoriously declared at a news conference: “Russia: if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”


When the grand jury subpoena for any classified documents arrived at his door, however, Trump expressed a very different view to his lawyer, according to the indictment, praising Clinton’s lawyer for deleting the 30,000 emails.

The Clinton lawyer, Trump allegedly said on May 23, 2022, “was the one who deleted all of her emails, the 30,000 emails, because they basically dealt with her scheduling and her going to the gym and her having beauty appointments. And he was great. And he, so she didn’t get in any trouble because he said that he was the one who deleted them.”

“Trump related the story more than once that day,” the indictment notes dryly.

Trump passed a law making mishandling confidential documents a felony.

 

[scruffy]

Trump passed a law making mishandling confidential documents a felony.

First you have to prove there were any classified documents.

You havent done that yet.

 

[surada]

First you have to prove there were any classified documents.

You havent done that yet.

Lolo you’re delusional.

 

[scruffy]

Lolo you’re delusional.

Show me the proof.

 

[surada]

Show me the proof.

You must have been living under a rock for the past two years. You're a waste of time.