Why Trump Was Charged On Secret Documents And Clinton, Pence Were Not

[Lesh]

Shut up you FUCKING LIAR.

There are strict requirements for machines handling classified information.

But you wouldn't know about that, would you dumbfuck?

Lefties are stupid and ignorant.

This one being an obvious example.

Hey fuck head… it was against the rules… NOT illegal

 

[John Edgar Slow Horses]

The irregularities were not illegal, scuflious. You need rein in your lack of knowledge.

 

[Lesh]

The only papers President Trump had were those that belonged to him. And you are pushing an idiotic lie. That's why the part of the judicial system that is truly o.k., because they knew the extent of the exaggerated Deep State lying taken out on Trump to cheat the American voters out of the truth. The truth was and is that President Trump did not break the laws by keeping his personal effects in boxes protected by the Secret Service. The Demonrat flunkies who went into his home with malice aforethought wrecked his orderly boxed papers, threw them all over the floor and then took photographic "proof" that President Trump was slovenly, when it was actually their predetermined agenda to make President Trump look bad. The Commie press helped by extending the lie to their big-eyed followers who allow themselves to be played by vociferous vipers. I think that those who lied and bore the lie to the front pages should step aside from their lies and either straighten up and fly right or get out of the lying society's business so we can restore integrity into the MSM. The FBI is up for reform when Biden's claws are out of the WH. I have no idea when that will be.

You stupid old fart… none of those papers belong to him.

They belong to the people

Read the Presidential Records Act

 

[CowboyTed]

The only papers President Trump had were those that belonged to him. And you are pushing an idiotic lie. That's why the part of the judicial system that is truly o.k., because they knew the extent of the exaggerated Deep State lying taken out on Trump to cheat the American voters out of the truth. The truth was and is that President Trump did not break the laws by keeping his personal effects in boxes protected by the Secret Service. The Demonrat flunkies who went into his home with malice aforethought wrecked his orderly boxed papers, threw them all over the floor and then took photographic "proof" that President Trump was slovenly, when it was actually their predetermined agenda to make President Trump look bad. The Commie press helped by extending the lie to their big-eyed followers who allow themselves to be played by vociferous vipers. I think that those who lied and bore the lie to the front pages should step aside from their lies and either straighten up and fly right or get out of the lying society's business so we can restore integrity into the MSM. The FBI is up for reform when Biden's claws are out of the WH. I have no idea when that will be.

This post doesn't change the fact that Trump didn't own those papers...

It does show that you are either:

1. Lying to conceal Trump's crimes or undermine USA
2. Totally Misinformed by Media Bubble you live in and the circle of people who engage with

So this is a statement that tells us more about you that anything about Trump...

Which one are you 1 or 2?

 

[westwall]

You stupid old fart… none of those papers belong to him.

They belong to the people

Read the Presidential Records Act

Really? Tell that to obummer, Clinton, and xiden.

DURRRRRR

 

[Lesh]

Really? Tell that to obummer, Clinton, and xiden.

DURRRRRR

To what are you referring ?

 

[westwall]

To what are you referring ?

Try keeping up with the subject.

 

[pknopp]

Try keeping up with the subject.

I have tried somewhat. The last I read no documents were found to still be in the possession of Clinton, Bush or Obama. It was noted that they were pretty haphazard with the documents as they were found where they should not be as they left but no note of them taking them home and leaving them laying around like what happened with both Biden and Trump.

It does show a bigger picture problem with government incompetence in how there seems to be no one accounting for this information in any manner that seems to work.

So again, it is a bipartisan issue brought on by two corrupt parties that so many seem to be unable to break themselves from.

 

[ThisIsMe]

"B-b-b-b-b-b-but Clinton!" "B-b-b-b-b-b-b-but Biden!" We've all heard these refrains from the Tu Quoque Brigade in every defense of Donald Trump's crimes.

So here's the difference with respect to the deliberate obstruction by Trump to keep classified documents.

Why Trump was charged on secret documents and Clinton, Pence were not​

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But the historic investigation into the former president was precipitated months earlier, in January 2022, when the former president gave 15 boxes of papers to the National Archives and Records Administration. The agency had been seeking all presidential records from Trump since he left office.

Inside the boxes, archivists found 197 classified documents, some extremely sensitive, the government alleged in court filings. That discovery set in motion the chain of events that led to the unsealing Friday of a 38-count indictment against Trump and Walt Nauta, a trusted servant.

Notably, however, the indictment does not charge Trump with the illegal retention of any of the 197 documents he returned to the archives.


If Trump had returned ALL the classified documents he took, as Biden, Pence, and Clinton had done, there would be no indictment.

It's as simple as that, folks.

Trump chose to hide several boxes of documents, some of which were classified, and that's why his ass is on fire now.

As for Clinton and her emails, what Trump said in private is VASTLY different than the bullshit he feeds to the rube herd:

But when discussing his own possible mishandling case last year, Trump seized on another facet of the Clinton probe: that attorneys for Clinton had reviewed more than 60,000 emails and turned over about 30,000 to government officials because they were deemed related to her official duties. Clinton’s lawyers deleted the rest, about 30,000 emails, after deeming them personal and unrelated to her work. It has long been standard practice in the federal government for officials to review their own correspondence in response to Freedom of Information Act requests and decide which of their emails are personal and therefore not turned over. In Clinton’s case, her lawyers did that for her.

As a candidate and president, Trump denounced the decision to delete the emails. In July 2016, he notoriously declared at a news conference: “Russia: if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”


When the grand jury subpoena for any classified documents arrived at his door, however, Trump expressed a very different view to his lawyer, according to the indictment, praising Clinton’s lawyer for deleting the 30,000 emails.

The Clinton lawyer, Trump allegedly said on May 23, 2022, “was the one who deleted all of her emails, the 30,000 emails, because they basically dealt with her scheduling and her going to the gym and her having beauty appointments. And he was great. And he, so she didn’t get in any trouble because he said that he was the one who deleted them.”

“Trump related the story more than once that day,” the indictment notes dryly.

Ok, so trump tried to keep some documents that he thought he was legally entitled to.

Explain why Biden is in the free and clear when he removed classified documents from the scif when he was a senator. That’s against the law.

Explain why Biden was able to hold those documents for over 30 years and Nara, nor anyone else said a peep, but like 2 weeks after trump left office, Nara was banging down his door demanding documents?

I’m fine with you going after trump if he broke the law, my issue is that you WONT go after Biden when HE breaks the law.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

Ok, so trump tried to keep some documents that he thought he was legally entitled to.

Explain why Biden is in the free and clear when he removed classified documents from the scif when he was a senator. That’s against the law.

Explain why Biden was able to hold those documents for over 30 years and Nara, nor anyone else said a peep, but like 2 weeks after trump left office, Nara was banging down his door demanding documents?

I’m fine with you going after trump if he broke the law, my issue is that you WONT go after Biden when HE breaks the law.

Biden returned them, when asked.
Trump didn't, he whined, "They are mine".

 

[pknopp]

Biden returned them, when asked.
Trump didn't, he whined, "They are mine".

If I rob a bank, get caught and return the money, I'm still going to be prosecuted.

 

[Lisa558]

If I rob a bank, get caught and return the money, I'm still going to be prosecuted.

But then why aren’t they pursuing criminal actions against Biden? He was caught with classified documents scattered throughout his homes, garage, and office - and leftists keep excusing him because he returned the docs once he was caught.

 

[JoeB131]

Ok, so trump tried to keep some documents that he thought he was legally entitled to.

Explain why Biden is in the free and clear when he removed classified documents from the scif when he was a senator. That’s against the law.

Explain why Biden was able to hold those documents for over 30 years and Nara, nor anyone else said a peep, but like 2 weeks after trump left office, Nara was banging down his door demanding documents?

I’m fine with you going after trump if he broke the law, my issue is that you WONT go after Biden when HE breaks the law.

Biden self-reported the documents and returned them immediately when discovered.

Trump intentionally took documents he wasn't supposed to have and fought like hell to keep them.

Also, Trump is traitorous verminous scum. Sending him to prison over this is like sending Al Capone to jail over income tax evasion. You KNOW he's done much, much worse stuff, but this is the low hanging fruit.

 

[JoeB131]

But then why aren’t they pursuing criminal actions against Biden? He was caught with classified documents scattered throughout his homes, garage, and office - and leftists keep excusing him because he returned the docs once he was caught.

Because he wasn't "caught". He did a review and self-reported.

 

[pknopp]

But then why aren’t they pursuing criminal actions against Biden?

I've said they should. Politics is ruining this country.

It's wrong to not treat all the same in a legal manner. It's also wrong to defend what is clearly wrong.

He was caught with classified documents scattered throughout his homes, garage, and office - and leftists keep excusing him because he returned the docs once he was caught.

And those on the right defend Trump for his many ills. I'll never understand.

 

[pknopp]

Biden self-reported the documents and returned them immediately when discovered.

If Trump hadn't been caught they would still be there for the gardener to read.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

If I rob a bank, get caught and return the money, I'm still going to be prosecuted.

A bank is different.

"You notify the authorities, you make sure that the documents are properly returned to the relevant government entity and taken away from the unauthorised location. That's the way you're supposed to do it," he said.

"What you don't do is what Trump did, which was spend 18 months delaying, obfuscating, obstructing the inquiry."

Under the Espionage Act and other federal security provisions, any unauthorised retention, mishandling or transmission of documents violates the law. But authorities rarely prosecute, save for two reasons: Intent or obstruction.

 

[pknopp]

A bank is different.

"You notify the authorities, you make sure that the documents are properly returned to the relevant government entity and taken away from the unauthorised location. That's the way you're supposed to do it," he said.

"What you don't do is what Trump did, which was spend 18 months delaying, obfuscating, obstructing the inquiry."

Under the Espionage Act and other federal security provisions, any unauthorised retention, mishandling or transmission of documents violates the law. But authorities rarely prosecute, save for two reasons: Intent or obstruction.

They don't prosecute because of politics. Plain and simple.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

They don't prosecute because of politics. Plain and simple.

Yeah, the politics of a traitor refusing to return documents.
So, why wasn't Pence charged?

 

[GMCGeneral]

They don't prosecute because of politics. Plain and simple.

What this boils down to is Democrats want to usher in a permanent far Left one party country. They would do this to any and every Republican/Conservative that dared to rock their little Socialist boat.