Will Biden be ready to lose Afghanistan?

[surada]

Well let see, US troops have been there since 2001 thanks to GB and the gift that keeps on giving.

Russian was there for 10 years before withdrawing or just gave up. No mas

Yet Trump did all he could to withdraw any remaining troops and managed to downsize it to 2500 troops. He was working to get the rest out but he lost the election. He did not bother to consult with NATO. So according to Trump there was no need for further American troops and let's have NATO handle it alone.

Now Biden has to decide what to do . Continue or remain the same or increase.

The difference is at least Biden will consult with NATO allies before making that decision. 20 years and what is there to show for it. Well maybe they got rid of some undesirables.

Yet that is American history . Stop communist aggression. Then it became stop Islamic extremist aggression and also to stop any Chinese aggression.

with allies like NATO we would be better off allying with the taliban

Obama negotiated an incremental increase from NATO before he left office.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

A good article that clearly illustrates the bad situation America faces.

The election of biden was based on nothing more than a fantasy that he could return things to 'normal' by being 'nice' which the propagandists pounded into the heads of all those who rely on the msm to get the news and political insight.

This fantasy was the driving force behind the phenomenon of older white women abandoning the republican party and voting for a old fragile tottering fool....they though Trump was mean and a bully whilst biden would be much nicer. Where were they when biden was calling female students 'dog faced pony soldiers'?

Will Biden Be Ready to Lose Afghanistan?

We are containing Vladimir Putin's Russia, whose strategic arsenal is comparable to our own in Central and Eastern Europe. We are fighting a war on terror in the Mideast, supporting Sunnis against Shiites, and containing Iran in the Persian Gulf. Something's gotta give.

www.newsmax.com

You do know that China has accomplished a lot in Afghanistan in the past decade with mining operations and their new railroad? Its called soft power...

Afghanistan needs the transit income from a gas pipeline from the Stans to India. Commerce and jobs are the way forward for Afghanis.. In fact, one result of China's soft power has been a surge in new, small businesses in the north.

Newsmax is pretty biased and ignorant.

Idiotic attack on the messenger....you do realize Pat Buchannan wrote that article?

 

[surada]

A good article that clearly illustrates the bad situation America faces.

The election of biden was based on nothing more than a fantasy that he could return things to 'normal' by being 'nice' which the propagandists pounded into the heads of all those who rely on the msm to get the news and political insight.

This fantasy was the driving force behind the phenomenon of older white women abandoning the republican party and voting for a old fragile tottering fool....they though Trump was mean and a bully whilst biden would be much nicer. Where were they when biden was calling female students 'dog faced pony soldiers'?

Will Biden Be Ready to Lose Afghanistan?

We are containing Vladimir Putin's Russia, whose strategic arsenal is comparable to our own in Central and Eastern Europe. We are fighting a war on terror in the Mideast, supporting Sunnis against Shiites, and containing Iran in the Persian Gulf. Something's gotta give.

www.newsmax.com

You do know that China has accomplished a lot in Afghanistan in the past decade with mining operations and their new railroad? Its called soft power...

Afghanistan needs the transit income from a gas pipeline from the Stans to India. Commerce and jobs are the way forward for Afghanis.. In fact, one result of China's soft power has been a surge in new, small businesses in the north.

Newsmax is pretty biased and ignorant.

Idiotic attack on the messenger....you do realize Pat Buchannan wrote that article?

You're impressed with Pat Buchannan? The way to peace in Afghanistan is thru commerce.
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[TheGreenHornet]

A good article that clearly illustrates the bad situation America faces.

The election of biden was based on nothing more than a fantasy that he could return things to 'normal' by being 'nice' which the propagandists pounded into the heads of all those who rely on the msm to get the news and political insight.

This fantasy was the driving force behind the phenomenon of older white women abandoning the republican party and voting for a old fragile tottering fool....they though Trump was mean and a bully whilst biden would be much nicer. Where were they when biden was calling female students 'dog faced pony soldiers'?

Will Biden Be Ready to Lose Afghanistan?

We are containing Vladimir Putin's Russia, whose strategic arsenal is comparable to our own in Central and Eastern Europe. We are fighting a war on terror in the Mideast, supporting Sunnis against Shiites, and containing Iran in the Persian Gulf. Something's gotta give.

www.newsmax.com

You do know that China has accomplished a lot in Afghanistan in the past decade with mining operations and their new railroad? Its called soft power...

Afghanistan needs the transit income from a gas pipeline from the Stans to India. Commerce and jobs are the way forward for Afghanis.. In fact, one result of China's soft power has been a surge in new, small businesses in the north.

Newsmax is pretty biased and ignorant.

Idiotic attack on the messenger....you do realize Pat Buchannan wrote that article?

You're impressed with Pat Buchannan? The way to peace in Afghanistan is thru commerce.
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Naive much? Of course commerce is good....unfortunately the Taliban are not interested in your 'commerce'......they get all the money they need from growing poppies.

 

[surada]

A good article that clearly illustrates the bad situation America faces.

The election of biden was based on nothing more than a fantasy that he could return things to 'normal' by being 'nice' which the propagandists pounded into the heads of all those who rely on the msm to get the news and political insight.

This fantasy was the driving force behind the phenomenon of older white women abandoning the republican party and voting for a old fragile tottering fool....they though Trump was mean and a bully whilst biden would be much nicer. Where were they when biden was calling female students 'dog faced pony soldiers'?

Will Biden Be Ready to Lose Afghanistan?

We are containing Vladimir Putin's Russia, whose strategic arsenal is comparable to our own in Central and Eastern Europe. We are fighting a war on terror in the Mideast, supporting Sunnis against Shiites, and containing Iran in the Persian Gulf. Something's gotta give.

www.newsmax.com

You do know that China has accomplished a lot in Afghanistan in the past decade with mining operations and their new railroad? Its called soft power...

Afghanistan needs the transit income from a gas pipeline from the Stans to India. Commerce and jobs are the way forward for Afghanis.. In fact, one result of China's soft power has been a surge in new, small businesses in the north.

Newsmax is pretty biased and ignorant.

Idiotic attack on the messenger....you do realize Pat Buchannan wrote that article?

You're impressed with Pat Buchannan? The way to peace in Afghanistan is thru commerce.
-

Naive much? Of course commerce is good....unfortunately the Taliban are not interested in your 'commerce'......they get all the money they need from growing poppies.

You idiot. The Taliban banned growing poppies.



Starting in the late summer of 2000, the Taliban imposed a ban on poppy- growing -- an activity they decided was "un-Islamic" after Washington offered money for an anti-drug program.
Opium poppies ease life's struggle / Cash crop feeds ...

www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Opium-poppies-ease-life-s-struggle-Cash-crop-28…

 

[surada]

Taliban's Ban On Poppy A Success, U.S. Aides Say - The New ...

https://www.nytimes.com/2001/05/20/world/taliban-s

...
May 20, 2001 · TimesMachine is an exclusive benefit for home delivery and digital subscribers. The first American narcotics experts to go to Afghanistan under Taliban rule have concluded that the movement's ban...

 

[surada]

Taliban to lift ban on farmers growing opium if US attacks ...

Taliban to lift ban on farmers growing opium if US attacks

Edict reverses policy that wiped out crop.

www.theguardian.com

Sep 24, 2001 · The Taliban virtually eradicated Afghanistan's opium crop last season after an edict by Mullah Mohammad Omar, the Taliban leader. In July last year he said that growing opium was "un-Islamic" and...

 

[surada]

• Taliban virtually wipes out Afghanistan's opium crop ...
  www.hiddenmysteries.org/news/asia/afghanistan/091701a.html
  The Taliban enforced the ban by threatening to arrest village elders and mullahs who allowed poppies to be grown. Taliban soldiers patrolled in trucks armed with rocket-propelled grenade launchers. About 1,000 people in Nangarhar who tried to defy the ban were arrested and jailed until they agreed to destroy their crops.
• Taliban destroy poppy fields in surprise clampdown on ...
  

  World news | World | The Guardian

  www.theguardian.com
  ...
  May 20, 2012 · T aliban fighters have destroyed fields of opium poppies in eastern Afghanistan this spring, the first time since 2001 the hardline Islamist group is known to have clamped down on the cultivation...

 

[TheGreenHornet]

A good article that clearly illustrates the bad situation America faces.

The election of biden was based on nothing more than a fantasy that he could return things to 'normal' by being 'nice' which the propagandists pounded into the heads of all those who rely on the msm to get the news and political insight.

This fantasy was the driving force behind the phenomenon of older white women abandoning the republican party and voting for a old fragile tottering fool....they though Trump was mean and a bully whilst biden would be much nicer. Where were they when biden was calling female students 'dog faced pony soldiers'?

Will Biden Be Ready to Lose Afghanistan?

We are containing Vladimir Putin's Russia, whose strategic arsenal is comparable to our own in Central and Eastern Europe. We are fighting a war on terror in the Mideast, supporting Sunnis against Shiites, and containing Iran in the Persian Gulf. Something's gotta give.

www.newsmax.com

You do know that China has accomplished a lot in Afghanistan in the past decade with mining operations and their new railroad? Its called soft power...

Afghanistan needs the transit income from a gas pipeline from the Stans to India. Commerce and jobs are the way forward for Afghanis.. In fact, one result of China's soft power has been a surge in new, small businesses in the north.

Newsmax is pretty biased and ignorant.

Idiotic attack on the messenger....you do realize Pat Buchannan wrote that article?

You're impressed with Pat Buchannan? The way to peace in Afghanistan is thru commerce.
-

Naive much? Of course commerce is good....unfortunately the Taliban are not interested in your 'commerce'......they get all the money they need from growing poppies.

You idiot. The Taliban banned growing poppies.



Starting in the late summer of 2000, the Taliban imposed a ban on poppy- growing -- an activity they decided was "un-Islamic" after Washington offered money for an anti-drug program.
Opium poppies ease life's struggle / Cash crop feeds ...
View attachment 459582
www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Opium-poppies-ease-life-s-struggle-Cash-crop-28…

bwaaaaaaaa that is just propaganda......talk to someone that has been over dere.

Taliban set to double opium profits this year?

Mysterious agricultural advance may see twice as much of the drug ooze out of poppy plants, in spite of $7B spent by U.S. fighting it

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Flash]

The worthless affirmative action Negro lost Iraq to the the ISIS so it is likely that President Dufus will lose Afghanistan to the Taliban.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

The worthless affirmative action Negro lost Iraq to the the ISIS so it is likely that President Dufus will lose Afghanistan to the Taliban.

Biden being about 10 times dumber than obama and that is saying a lot will screw up much worse than obama

 

[task0778]

I thought we shoulda let Afghanistan 10 years ago, maybe 20. It won't matter when we eventually leave, next week, next year, 10 years, 50 years, whatever. That place will revert to what is was before we got there, and we are wasting time, money, and blood every minute that we stay.

 

[Synthaholic]

NATO is the United States with some token add on forces from other countries.

Over 437,000 Turkish troops are "token".

You're not smart.

 

[Synthaholic]

This BDS thread can’t re-write history.

 

[Synthaholic]

November, 2020

Trump pulling troops out of Iraq and Afghanistan.

This has been in the works for several weeks. https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2020/10/08/taliban-cheer-trump-tweet-promising-early-us-troop-withdrawal-from-afghanistan/

www.usmessageboard.com

 

[surada]

The worthless affirmative action Negro lost Iraq to the the ISIS so it is likely that President Dufus will lose Afghanistan to the Taliban.

Where do you think ISIS came from and what caused the resurgence? Do you even know?

 

[surada]

A good article that clearly illustrates the bad situation America faces.

The election of biden was based on nothing more than a fantasy that he could return things to 'normal' by being 'nice' which the propagandists pounded into the heads of all those who rely on the msm to get the news and political insight.

This fantasy was the driving force behind the phenomenon of older white women abandoning the republican party and voting for a old fragile tottering fool....they though Trump was mean and a bully whilst biden would be much nicer. Where were they when biden was calling female students 'dog faced pony soldiers'?

Will Biden Be Ready to Lose Afghanistan?

We are containing Vladimir Putin's Russia, whose strategic arsenal is comparable to our own in Central and Eastern Europe. We are fighting a war on terror in the Mideast, supporting Sunnis against Shiites, and containing Iran in the Persian Gulf. Something's gotta give.

www.newsmax.com

You do know that China has accomplished a lot in Afghanistan in the past decade with mining operations and their new railroad? Its called soft power...

Afghanistan needs the transit income from a gas pipeline from the Stans to India. Commerce and jobs are the way forward for Afghanis.. In fact, one result of China's soft power has been a surge in new, small businesses in the north.

Newsmax is pretty biased and ignorant.

Idiotic attack on the messenger....you do realize Pat Buchannan wrote that article?

You're impressed with Pat Buchannan? The way to peace in Afghanistan is thru commerce.
-

Naive much? Of course commerce is good....unfortunately the Taliban are not interested in your 'commerce'......they get all the money they need from growing poppies.

You idiot. The Taliban banned growing poppies.



Starting in the late summer of 2000, the Taliban imposed a ban on poppy- growing -- an activity they decided was "un-Islamic" after Washington offered money for an anti-drug program.
Opium poppies ease life's struggle / Cash crop feeds ...
View attachment 459582
www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Opium-poppies-ease-life-s-struggle-Cash-crop-28…

bwaaaaaaaa that is just propaganda......talk to someone that has been over dere.

Taliban set to double opium profits this year?

Mysterious agricultural advance may see twice as much of the drug ooze out of poppy plants, in spite of $7B spent by U.S. fighting it

www.cbsnews.com

Look at the 5 years preceding 2015.

 

[TheGreenHornet]

Afghanistan is the world's largest producer of opium.
With an estimated annual export value of $1.5-$3bn, the opium poppy is big business, supplying the overwhelming majority of illicit heroin worldwide.
Although there is some cultivation in government regions, most of the poppy growing takes place in areas controlled by the Taliban and is believed to be an important source of income.
The Taliban earns money from taxes imposed at several stages of the process.
A 10% cultivation tax is collected from opium farmers.

Taxes are also collected from the laboratories converting opium into heroin, as well as the traders who smuggle the illicit drugs.
Estimates of the Taliban's annual share of the illicit drug economy range from $100m-$400m.

 

[JoeB131]

Afghanistan is the world's largest producer of opium.
With an estimated annual export value of $1.5-$3bn, the opium poppy is big business, supplying the overwhelming majority of illicit heroin worldwide.
Although there is some cultivation in government regions, most of the poppy growing takes place in areas controlled by the Taliban and is believed to be an important source of income.
The Taliban earns money from taxes imposed at several stages of the process.
A 10% cultivation tax is collected from opium farmers.

Taxes are also collected from the laboratories converting opium into heroin, as well as the traders who smuggle the illicit drugs.
Estimates of the Taliban's annual share of the illicit drug economy range from $100m-$400m.

That's the case NOW, after Bush screwed up everything. Before that, the Taliban stomped out Opium cultivation.

Now, they figure, meh, fuck it if the great satan shoots this shit up their arms.

 

[Kilroy2]

The difference is at least Biden will consult with NATO allies before making that decision.

You’re an idiot. NATO is the United States with some token add on forces from other countries. They wouldn’t be able to find their ass from a hole in the ground without the US.

NATO is the United states you say yet they are called NATO not the US.
I can see your problem , you like to see what you want. Reality is a funny thing