Will Republicans ever admit the mess they left President Obama?

[Faun]

So what is this historical source bias? Presidential Approval Ratings -- Barack Obama
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Then you have to show me differently from Gallup how Obama stacks up in approval...
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Barack Obama 04/07/2016 04/09/2016

51%
Presidential Popularity Over Time

Again though you are not substantiating ANY of your statistics. Why? Because you are either too lazy or to dumb!

aww, poor, rightard. Can't deal with what I said, so he tries to change the conversation .

 

[eddiew]

Only if you ignore the whole "Constitution" thing...you know...where the President has to get authority from Congress to go to war?

So was Hillary part of Congress? Did she vote to authorize? Your "monkey wrench" just flew out and hit you in the head!

Bush asked Congress for that authority and Congress approved a resolution to allow him to use the military IF he thought Iraq was a threat. Basically, Congress made Bush the decider. So Bush is 100% correct when he said...

"As president, I am responsible for the decision to go into Iraq." - Bush, December, 2005

So if Congress HADN'T voted to grant Bush the authority to go to war...would he have been able to do so? You're right...Congress DID make Bush the decider...and Hillary Clinton was one of those in Congress who voted to do so. If Congress had voted no, Bush wouldn't have had the authority...so that makes Congress just as much of a "decider" as the President!

When a president, not long after an attack like 9.11, implores the Congress to give him the authority, if needed, to use the military to enforce U.N. resolutions against Iraq because they pose a threat and blurs the line between Saddam Hussein (who wouldn't allow inspectors into Iraq) and Al-Qaeda, it's not easy to deny him that. So they gave him the authority to decide.

Even after getting the inspectors back in, he decided to have the U.N. replaced with our military.

Ah, so you're claiming that the Democrats gave Bush authorization because to not do so wouldn't be "easy"?

LOL...the more you on the far left try to make excuses for votes by people like Kerry and Clinton...the more you make the case that they don't have the back bone to ever BE President!

The more you try to deflect the responsibility for a the Iraq mess onto those who voted for it instead of the asshole who proposed it and executed it, the more you look foolish. The President made the decision to attack, and he made the decision to involve Haliburton, which caused no end of trouble.

You lot don't have the stones to accept responsibility for your stupidity.

its standard proceedure{sp} for republicans dragon,,, they even try to blame the greatest recession on dems

 

[easyt65]

As pointed out many, many times....

The 'mess' Obama 'inherited' was the 'mess' his own party left him. Dems took over a near super majority control of Congress - budget, spending, & thus the economy- with 2 years left to go under Bush....coincidently at the exact time even Liberals say the economy started going down.

4 years of near super majority economic control led to record-setting deficit spending ('monthly', 'annual', and 'total'), Obama's fiscal inexperience and stubborness to do it his way while ignoring advice resulted in the 1st Credit Rating down-grade in our nation's history, & he ended up adding more debt than any President from Wahington to Clinton.

The dumbass called Bush 'Un-Patriotic' for adding $4 trillion in 8 years (only $2.5 trillion in 6 years, with the libs controlling spending & adding another $1.5 in only 2 years after that).

Obama, by comparison, added nearly $7 trillion in his 1st 4 years, almost doubling Bush's numbers after 6 years.

And here we are, 71 - 72 pages later, and you liberal finger pointers, like Democrats /Obama, are STILL trying to blame someone else for your party's failures and f*-ups...

The title of this thread SHOULD be:

Will Liverals EVUH Take Personal Accountability For What They Did .. Or Will They Continue To Be Children, Blaming Others?

Or if you want to accuratel reflect the whining going on, just give it the title:

'B...b...b...but Buuuuuuuuusssshhhh!

Liberals, however, on this board trying to project their actions onto Republicans is hilarious to watch....almost as funny as the grape-stomping episode on 'I love Lucy.'

 

[eddiew]

As pointed out many, many times....

The 'mess' Obama 'inherited' was the 'mess' his own party left him. Dems took over a near super majority control of Congress - budget, spending, & thus the economy- with 2 years left to go under Bush....coincidently at the exact time even Liberals say the economy started going down.

4 years of near super majority economic control led to record-setting deficit spending ('monthly', 'annual', and 'total'), Obama's fiscal inexperience and stubborness to do it his way while ignoring advice resulted in the 1st Credit Rating down-grade in our nation's history, & he ended up adding more debt than any President from Wahington to Clinton.

The dumbass called Bush 'Un-Patriotic' for adding $4 trillion in 8 years (only $2.5 trillion in 6 years, with the libs controlling spending & adding another $1.5 in only 2 years after that).

Obama, by comparison, added nearly $7 trillion in his 1st 4 years, almost doubling Bush's numbers after 6 years.

And here we are, 71 - 72 pages later, and you liberal finger pointers, like Democrats /Obama, are STILL trying to blame someone else for your party's failures and f*-ups...

The title of this thread SHOULD be:

Will Liverals EVUH Take Personal Accountability For What They Did .. Or Will They Continue To Be Children, Blaming Others?

Or if you want to accuratel reflect the whining goung on, just give it the title:

'B...b...b...but Buuuuuuuuusssshhhh!

was the moron gwb so inept ,so without weapons to fight off those nasty dems? and his poor congress ,undermaned and unable to help out their besieged president? bs,,,,,sorry, time to take the blame and you run from it like scared rabbits

 

[healthmyths]

As pointed out many, many times....

The 'mess' Obama 'inherited' was the 'mess' his own party left him. Dems took over a near super majority control of Congress - budget, spending, & thus the economy- with 2 years left to go under Bush....coincidently at the exact time even Liberals say the economy started going down.

4 years of near super majority economic control led to record-setting deficit spending ('monthly', 'annual', and 'total'), Obama's fiscal inexperience and stubborness to do it his way while ignoring advice resulted in the 1st Credit Rating down-grade in our nation's history, & he ended up adding more debt than any President from Wahington to Clinton.

The dumbass called Bush 'Un-Patriotic' for adding $4 trillion in 8 years (only $2.5 trillion in 6 years, with the libs controlling spending & adding another $1.5 in only 2 years after that).

Obama, by comparison, added nearly $7 trillion in his 1st 4 years, almost doubling Bush's numbers after 6 years.

And here we are, 71 - 72 pages later, and you liberal finger pointers, like Democrats /Obama, are STILL trying to blame someone else for your party's failures and f*-ups...

The title of this thread SHOULD be:

Will Liverals EVUH Take Personal Accountability For What They Did .. Or Will They Continue To Be Children, Blaming Others?

Or if you want to accuratel reflect the whining goung on, just give it the title:

'B...b...b...but Buuuuuuuuusssshhhh!

was the moron gwb so inept ,so without weapons to fight off those nasty dems? and his poor congress ,undermaned and unable to help out their besieged president? bs,,,,,sorry, time to take the blame and you run from it like scared rabbits

Actually President Bush had to manage events that NO OTHER President has ever had happen in ONE administration. Historians will declare Bush a
GREAT president that even though contending with EVENTS that not any one president contended with in two terms, the economy thrived. People kept
going and there wasn't any slow down.
BUT idiots like you seem to forget them!

Do these events MEAN anything to YOU???

Unlike you idiots that can't substantiate your stupid biased ignorant comments,
ALL of the below are LINKS if you aren't too f...king lazy to check out and see the Truth!

Recession
Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?
Because idiots don't seem to comprehend... RECESSIONS are like large ships.. it takes miles to turn one...i.e. so does a "RECESSION"...
it doesn't just start the day NBER states... it is a slow degradation and it started under CLINTON!!!
Source: USATODAY.com - It's official: 2001 recession only lasted eight months

A Major $8 trillion market loss
Are you aware that the dot.com bust occurred and cost $8 trillion in losses?
Again Clinton laid claim BUT someone had to pay and it occurred during Bush's first year!
$8 trillion in market losses MEAN lost tax revenue.
PLUS JOBS!!!!
According to the Los Angeles Times, when the dot-com bubble burst, it wiped out $8 trillion dollars in market value for tech companies.
More than half of the Internet companies created since 1995 were gone by 2004 -
and hundreds of thousands of skilled technology workers were out of jobs.
Source: The dot-com bubble: How to lose $5 trillion

The worst attacks on the USA in History.. 3,000 deaths!!!
Obviously most of you are UNAWARE 9/11 cost 3,000 lives, $2 trillion in lost businesses,market values assets.
Jobs lost in New York owing to the attacks: 146,100 JUST in New York.
Are you aware this happened???
Now before you idiots say "well Bush should have known"! DUMMIES... ever hear of the Gorelick Memo signed under CLINTON??
Gorelick Memo that created the wall between FBI & CIA thus no knowledge of the 9/11 bombers shared with the FBI!!!
Looks especially imprudent 10 years later.
Because the memo created a barrier for U.S. intelligence agencies to share information with the FBI, one of its unintended consequences may have been to prevent the FBI from receiving the necessary intelligence to stop the Sept. 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the worst in American history.
Gorelick Memo Allegedly Impeded Probe of Clinton Fundraising Scandal
1995 memo [Clinton presidency-concerned about Chinese election sales] Gorelick wrote, stated explicitly that they would “go beyond what is legally required, [to] prevent any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance that FISA is being used to avoid procedural safeguards which would apply in a criminal investigation.” GORELICK Memo!
Here read what NOT my words but other sources:
Jamie Gorelick’s wall barred anti-terror investigators from accessing the computer of Zacarias Moussaoui, the 20th hijacker, already in custody on an immigration violation shortly before 9/11.
At the time, an enraged FBI investigator wrote a prophetic memo to headquarters about the wall.
Whatever has happened to this — someday someone will die — and wall or not — the public will not understand why we were not more effective in throwing every resource we had at certain problems…..especially since the biggest threat to us UBL [Usama bin Laden], is getting the most protection.
So, a year before the 9/11 attacks, a special unit in the U.S. military was aware of the presence of an al-Queda cell in Brooklyn, New York, and sought to share its information with the FBI but was stopped cold.Why?Because (as described in the April 16, 2004 Washington Times piece) “on March 4, 1995, [Jamie Gorelick, the then number 2 official in the Clinton Justice Department, sent a 4-page directive] to FBI Director Louis Freeh and Mary Jo White, the New York-based U.S. attorney investigating the 1993 World Trade Center bombing.
In the memo, Ms. Gorelick ordered Mr. Freeh and Ms. White to follow information-sharing procedures that ‘go beyond what is legally required,’ in order to avoid ‘any risk of creating an unwarranted appearance’ that the Justice Department was using Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) warrants, instead of ordinary criminal investigative procedures, in an effort to undermine the civil liberties of terrorism suspects.”
Could 9/11 Have Been Prevented? The Gorelick Memo and What We Knew

Year 2001: September 11 Terrorist Attacks
The 9/11 terrorist attacks were the events that helped shape other financial events of the decade. After that terrible day in September 2001, our economic climate was never to be the same again. It was only the third time in history that the New York Stock Exchange was shut down for a period of time. In this case, it was closed from September 10 - 17. Besides the tragic human loss of that day, the economic loss cannot even be estimated. Some estimate that there was over $60 billion in insurance losses alone. Airlines didn't fly for 3 days!
Approximately 18,000 small businesses were either displaced or destroyed in Lower Manhattan after the Twin Towers fell. There was a buildup in homeland security on all levels. 9/11 caused a catastrophic financial loss for the U.S.
Source: 10 Events That Rocked the Financial World
Anthrax Attacks...
The 2001 anthrax attacks in the United States, also known as Amerithrax from its Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) case name, occurred over the course of several weeks beginning on Tuesday, September 18, 2001, one week after the September 11 attacks. Letters containing anthrax spores were mailed to several news media offices and two DemocraticU.S. Senators, killing five people and infecting 17 others.

$1 trillion in losses due to the WORST Hurricane SEASONS in history.
The worst, Katrina made landfall in Louisiana as a Category 3 in 2005. It took 1,836 lives and caused $81.2 billion in damages. It quickly became the biggest natural disaster in U.S. history, almost destroying New Orleans due to severe flooding.
Rank Disaster Year Deaths Damage* $250 Billion in damages in the 8 disasters of the top 15 disasters in history!
1. Hurricane Katrina (LA/MS/AL/FL) 2005 1833 $133,800,000,000
6. Hurricane Ike (TX/LA/MS) 2008 112 $27,000,000,000
7. Hurricane Wilma (FL) 2005 35 $17,100,000,000
8. Hurricane Rita (TX/LA) 2005 119 $17,100,000,000
9. Hurricane Charley (FL) 2004 35 $16,500,000,000
12. Midwest Floods 2008 24 $15,000,000,000
13. Hurricane Ivan (FL/AL) 2004 57 $13,000,000,000
14. 30-State Drought 2002 0 $11,400,000,000
Costliest U.S. Weather Disasters | Weather Underground

THESE events OCCURRED!
YET in SPITE of:
a) 400,000 jobs lost due to Hurricanes Katrina/Rita ,
b) 2,800,000 jobs lost in alone due to 9/11,
c) 300,000 jobs lost due to dot.com busts... In spite of nearly $8 trillion in lost businesses, market values, destroyed property..
IN SPITE of that:
2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later due to dot.com/9-11 losses against revenue.
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=20

AFTER the tax cuts Federal Tax REVENUES Increased an average of 9.78% per year!!!
http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historical

OH and yea how about THESE EVENTS that no other President ever experienced: 1) Dot.com bust-- 2) 9/11 3) Worst hurricane SEASONS...All of which made these numbers worse BUT still there was growth!!!
http://www.bea.gov/National/index.htm
Average annual growth over 8 years 2.9% IN Spite of all the events AND if the housing bubble caused by the below people hadn't occurred it would have
been: 4.4% compared to what now???
2001 2.3% increase
2002 2.4%
2003 6.8%
2004 6.4%
2005 5.4%
2006 4.6%
2007 3.2%
2008 -7.7%

Failure to heed GWB warnings about the potential housing bust!
GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
http://georgewbush-whitehouse.archives.gov/news/releases/2008/12/20081221-2.html

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/sam-dealey/2008/09/10/barney-franks-fannie-and-freddie-muddle


ONCE again I'm asking you idiot Bush bashers to prove the above statements WRONG! REFUTE the FACTS that
1) a recession started under Clinton.
2) dot.com bust started under Clinton cost $8 trillion market losses, lost jobs!
3) Clinton's Gorelick Memo prevented the CIA from Warning the FBI about 9/11.
4) 9/11 occurred
5) Anthrax attacks happened right after 9/11
6) Worst hurricane SEASONS in history occurred

Please refute these events occurred and in doing so prove these cataclysmic events didn't occur and didn't affect the country. Prove me wrong!

And say that they have because NOT ONE person to this date has even attempted to disprove the above events didn't happen much less have
ANY affect on our country! PROVE ME WRONG!

 

[easyt65]

Nice long, shamefully emotion-evoking diatribe, possibly designed to distract the bottom line....but let's get back to the simple facts.

Librals blame Bush - not the Libs who controlled Congress or Obama, whose 1st financial bill was (almost) a $1 trillion failure - for the 'bad economy.

Either you believe Congress controlls the purse strings, the budget, the spending, and thus the economy or you don't.

It is the House's responsibility to control the budget / spending. Democrats controlled the House the last 2 years of the Bush administration, a time when the economy began to fall and during a time whan they added $1 trillion less in only 2 years than Bush had added in 6 years during 9/11/01, the economic impact of that event, & 2 wars. They controlled the budget / spending for the 1st 2 years under Obama that included the record-setting deficit spending.

If you count / add the $1.5 trillion the Dems in Bush's last 2 years & Dems/Obama's own 4 years, Liberals added around $8 trillion to the debt in only 6 years.

Now compare that to the $2.5 trillion Bysh added to the debt over a 6 year period, as you pointed out, consisted of 9/11/01, the economic aftermath, and 2 wars.

There is NO COMPARISON! If Bush is 'un-patriotic' for 'adding $4 trillion in 4 years', Obalma & his fellow democrats are, by comparison, 'traitors'.

 

[eddiew]

so you're among the 23-27% that thinks he did a good job ? His approval rating is one of the lowest ever and bush backers have alzheimers if they think history of that pos will be forgotten...oh yeah and lets blame clinton for your moron starting the iraqui war and giving out tax breaks to billionaires at the same time

 

[healthmyths]

Nice long, shamefully emotion-evoking diatribe, possibly designed to distract the bottom line....but let's get back to the simple facts.

Librals blame Bush - not the Libs who controlled Congress or Obama, whose 1st financial bill was (almost) a $1 trillion failure - for the 'bad economy.

Either you believe Congress controlls the purse strings, the budget, the spending, and thus the economy or you don't.

It is the House's responsibility to control the budget / spending. Democrats controlled the House the last 2 years of the Bush administration, a time when the economy began to fall and during a time whan they added $1 trillion less in only 2 years than Bush had added in 6 years during 9/11/01, the economic impact of that event, & 2 wars. They controlled the budget / spending for the 1st 2 years under Obama that included the record-setting deficit spending.

If you count / add the $1.5 trillion the Dems in Bush's last 2 years & Dems/Obama's own 4 years, Liberals added around $8 trillion to the debt in only 6 years.

Now compare that to the $2.5 trillion Bysh added to the debt over a 6 year period, as you pointed out, consisted of 9/11/01, the economic aftermath, and 2 wars.

There is NO COMPARISON! If Bush is 'un-patriotic' for 'adding $4 trillion in 4 years', Obalma & his fellow democrats are, by comparison, 'traitors'.

These are the facts...not guesses about Bush's budgets and remember that big 2008 budget expenditure, i.e. TARP has been paid back and MADE a profit!

2002 $157.8 billion deficit.. also 9/11 occurred and tax revenues lowered for years later due to dot.com/9-11 losses against revenue.
2003 $377.6 billion deficit.. BRAND new cabinet Homeland Security, plus loans made to businesses.. again tax revenues down..affect of 9/11
2004 $412.7 billion deficit.. Revenues up by 5.5% spending increased and economy getting back.
2005 $318.3 billion deficit.. revenues up by 14.5% deficit decreasing at rate of 22%
2006 $248.2 billion deficit.. revenues up by 11.7% deficit decrease 22%
2007 $160.7 billion deficit.. revenues up by 6.7% deficit decrease 35%
2008 $458.6 billion deficit.. revenues down and deficit INCREASED TARP loan mostly...
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/taxfacts/displayafact.cfm?Docid=20
Do you see? The deficit was declining and then TARP in 2008... BUT Obama's budget benefited from this:
Income $672.8 Billion that came in UNDER Obama and $616.6B that was paid out under Bush in 2008.
So it is even more disgusting that with NO EVENTS, NO massive expenditures added to budget i.e. a NEW Agency Homeland security... obama still has
spent grossly more then Bush ever did even with the TARP paid back!
Bailout Scorecard | Eye on the Bailout | ProPublica

 

[healthmyths]

so you're among the 23-27% that thinks he did a good job ? His approval rating is one of the lowest ever and bush backers have alzheimers if they think history of that pos will be forgotten...oh yeah and lets blame clinton for your moron starting the iraqui war and giving out tax breaks to billionaires at the same time

Hey I evidently am just smarter then those of you ignorant MSM biased fed idiots who totally ignore THESE FACTS!
1) A recession that started under Clinton as recession just don't start in one DAY as you idiots think!
2) Obviously you and other idiots totally forgot what the country experience in the days of the $8 trillion dot com bust that cost 400,000 plus jobs! Of course you
don't remember being a dishwasher!
3) But when you live in a basement of your parents home you probably never heard of 3,000 people dying or $1 trillion in losses as well as tax paying businesses... i.e. known as 9/11!
4) And of course living in the basement you weren't affected as most Americans during the Worst hurricane SEASONS not just hurricanes in history. 8 disasters
cost $250 billion and 3,000 lives and you obviously weren't affected... but most Americans were!
5) See the ANTHRAX attacks right after 9/11 had millions of people affected i.e. checking every envelope but you being a basement dweller with no friends knew
nothing about it!

But in spite of that GWB led the country to prosperity! The GDP grew average of nearly 3% (wish we had that today!)
OH and yea how about THESE EVENTS that no other President ever experienced: 1) Dot.com bust-- 2) 9/11 3) Worst hurricane SEASONS...All of which made these numbers worse BUT still there was growth!!!
BEA National Economic Accounts
Average annual growth over 8 years 2.9% IN Spite of all the events AND if the housing bubble caused by the below people hadn't occurred it would have
been: 4.4% compared to what now???
2001 2.3% increase
2002 2.4%
2003 6.8%
2004 6.4%
2005 5.4%
2006 4.6%
2007 3.2%
2008 -7.7%

But of course living in the basement at parents' home because YOU can't get a job idiots like you make up those UNINFORMED idiots!

 

[eddiew]

so you're among the 23-27% that thinks he did a good job ? His approval rating is one of the lowest ever and bush backers have alzheimers if they think history of that pos will be forgotten...oh yeah and lets blame clinton for your moron starting the iraqui war and giving out tax breaks to billionaires at the same time

Hey I evidently am just smarter then those of you ignorant MSM biased fed idiots who totally ignore THESE FACTS!
1) A recession that started under Clinton as recession just don't start in one DAY as you idiots think!
2) Obviously you and other idiots totally forgot what the country experience in the days of the $8 trillion dot com bust that cost 400,000 plus jobs! Of course you
don't remember being a dishwasher!
3) But when you live in a basement of your parents home you probably never heard of 3,000 people dying or $1 trillion in losses as well as tax paying businesses... i.e. known as 9/11!
4) And of course living in the basement you weren't affected as most Americans during the Worst hurricane SEASONS not just hurricanes in history. 8 disasters
cost $250 billion and 3,000 lives and you obviously weren't affected... but most Americans were!
5) See the ANTHRAX attacks right after 9/11 had millions of people affected i.e. checking every envelope but you being a basement dweller with no friends knew
nothing about it!

But in spite of that GWB led the country to prosperity! The GDP grew average of nearly 3% (wish we had that today!)
OH and yea how about THESE EVENTS that no other President ever experienced: 1) Dot.com bust-- 2) 9/11 3) Worst hurricane SEASONS...All of which made these numbers worse BUT still there was growth!!!
BEA National Economic Accounts
Average annual growth over 8 years 2.9% IN Spite of all the events AND if the housing bubble caused by the below people hadn't occurred it would have
been: 4.4% compared to what now???
2001 2.3% increase
2002 2.4%
2003 6.8%
2004 6.4%
2005 5.4%
2006 4.6%
2007 3.2%
2008 -7.7%

But of course living in the basement at parents' home because YOU can't get a job idiots like you make up those UNINFORMED idiots!

and yes those 800000 per month the nitwit was losing was dems fault ? clintons?? Obamas? OR the moron and his congress?? Seems funny to me a repub in the WH and things go wrong blame the dems a dem in the WH and things turn bad,,blame the dems Nice little game your pub friends try to pull We won't have any of it

 

[Faun]

As pointed out many, many times....

The 'mess' Obama 'inherited' was the 'mess' his own party left him. Dems took over a near super majority control of Congress - budget, spending, & thus the economy- with 2 years left to go under Bush....coincidently at the exact time even Liberals say the economy started going down.

4 years of near super majority economic control led to record-setting deficit spending ('monthly', 'annual', and 'total'), Obama's fiscal inexperience and stubborness to do it his way while ignoring advice resulted in the 1st Credit Rating down-grade in our nation's history, & he ended up adding more debt than any President from Wahington to Clinton.

The dumbass called Bush 'Un-Patriotic' for adding $4 trillion in 8 years (only $2.5 trillion in 6 years, with the libs controlling spending & adding another $1.5 in only 2 years after that).

Obama, by comparison, added nearly $7 trillion in his 1st 4 years, almost doubling Bush's numbers after 6 years.

And here we are, 71 - 72 pages later, and you liberal finger pointers, like Democrats /Obama, are STILL trying to blame someone else for your party's failures and f*-ups...

The title of this thread SHOULD be:

Will Liverals EVUH Take Personal Accountability For What They Did .. Or Will They Continue To Be Children, Blaming Others?

Or if you want to accuratel reflect the whining going on, just give it the title:

'B...b...b...but Buuuuuuuuusssshhhh!

Liberals, however, on this board trying to project their actions onto Republicans is hilarious to watch....almost as funny as the grape-stomping episode on 'I love Lucy.'

Only the truly dumbest imbeciles blame the 110th Congress for the economic collapse caused by toxic loans written years earlier.

 

[healthmyths]

As pointed out many, many times....

The 'mess' Obama 'inherited' was the 'mess' his own party left him. Dems took over a near super majority control of Congress - budget, spending, & thus the economy- with 2 years left to go under Bush....coincidently at the exact time even Liberals say the economy started going down.

4 years of near super majority economic control led to record-setting deficit spending ('monthly', 'annual', and 'total'), Obama's fiscal inexperience and stubborness to do it his way while ignoring advice resulted in the 1st Credit Rating down-grade in our nation's history, & he ended up adding more debt than any President from Wahington to Clinton.

The dumbass called Bush 'Un-Patriotic' for adding $4 trillion in 8 years (only $2.5 trillion in 6 years, with the libs controlling spending & adding another $1.5 in only 2 years after that).

Obama, by comparison, added nearly $7 trillion in his 1st 4 years, almost doubling Bush's numbers after 6 years.

And here we are, 71 - 72 pages later, and you liberal finger pointers, like Democrats /Obama, are STILL trying to blame someone else for your party's failures and f*-ups...

The title of this thread SHOULD be:

Will Liverals EVUH Take Personal Accountability For What They Did .. Or Will They Continue To Be Children, Blaming Others?

Or if you want to accuratel reflect the whining going on, just give it the title:

'B...b...b...but Buuuuuuuuusssshhhh!

Liberals, however, on this board trying to project their actions onto Republicans is hilarious to watch....almost as funny as the grape-stomping episode on 'I love Lucy.'

Only the truly dumbest imbeciles blame the 110th Congress for the economic collapse caused by toxic loans written years earlier.

FACTS...

On a parallel track was the Community Reinvestment Act. New CRA regulations in 1995 required banks to demonstrate that they were making mortgage loans to underserved communities, which inevitably included borrowers whose credit standing did not qualify them for a conventional mortgage loan.
A Government-Mandated Housing Bubble

And even though Bush administration made warnings about the potential housing bust!
GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
Setting the Record Straight: The Three Most Egregious Claims In The New York Times Article On The Housing Crisis

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)
1
Barney Frank's Fannie and Freddie Muddle

 

[Faun]

Recession
Are you aware that a recession started under Clinton and became official 3/01 ended 11/01?

You're also too retarded to deal with. You challenge folks to prove you wrong... yet even after you're proved to be wrong, you keep repeating the same lies that were proven wrong. <smh>

Case in point -- It's been proven that the 2001 recession started in March of 2001...

http://www.nber.org/cycles.html

... yet here you are, falsely claiming again that recession began while Clinton was president. Hell, you even linked an article which stated the recession began in March, 2001. You're now arguing with your own sources.

 

[eddiew]

As pointed out many, many times....

The 'mess' Obama 'inherited' was the 'mess' his own party left him. Dems took over a near super majority control of Congress - budget, spending, & thus the economy- with 2 years left to go under Bush....coincidently at the exact time even Liberals say the economy started going down.

4 years of near super majority economic control led to record-setting deficit spending ('monthly', 'annual', and 'total'), Obama's fiscal inexperience and stubborness to do it his way while ignoring advice resulted in the 1st Credit Rating down-grade in our nation's history, & he ended up adding more debt than any President from Wahington to Clinton.

The dumbass called Bush 'Un-Patriotic' for adding $4 trillion in 8 years (only $2.5 trillion in 6 years, with the libs controlling spending & adding another $1.5 in only 2 years after that).

Obama, by comparison, added nearly $7 trillion in his 1st 4 years, almost doubling Bush's numbers after 6 years.

And here we are, 71 - 72 pages later, and you liberal finger pointers, like Democrats /Obama, are STILL trying to blame someone else for your party's failures and f*-ups...

The title of this thread SHOULD be:

Will Liverals EVUH Take Personal Accountability For What They Did .. Or Will They Continue To Be Children, Blaming Others?

Or if you want to accuratel reflect the whining going on, just give it the title:

'B...b...b...but Buuuuuuuuusssshhhh!

Liberals, however, on this board trying to project their actions onto Republicans is hilarious to watch....almost as funny as the grape-stomping episode on 'I love Lucy.'

Only the truly dumbest imbeciles blame the 110th Congress for the economic collapse caused by toxic loans written years earlier.

FACTS...

On a parallel track was the Community Reinvestment Act. New CRA regulations in 1995 required banks to demonstrate that they were making mortgage loans to underserved communities, which inevitably included borrowers whose credit standing did not qualify them for a conventional mortgage loan.
A Government-Mandated Housing Bubble

And even though Bush administration made warnings about the potential housing bust!
GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
Setting the Record Straight: The Three Most Egregious Claims In The New York Times Article On The Housing Crisis

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)
1
Barney Frank's Fannie and Freddie Muddle

Let me get this straight A person goes to the bank looking for a rather small loan to buy a house He's earning 25k at his job and he wants to borrow 250k The bank HAD to give it to him?

 

[Faun]

As pointed out many, many times....

The 'mess' Obama 'inherited' was the 'mess' his own party left him. Dems took over a near super majority control of Congress - budget, spending, & thus the economy- with 2 years left to go under Bush....coincidently at the exact time even Liberals say the economy started going down.

4 years of near super majority economic control led to record-setting deficit spending ('monthly', 'annual', and 'total'), Obama's fiscal inexperience and stubborness to do it his way while ignoring advice resulted in the 1st Credit Rating down-grade in our nation's history, & he ended up adding more debt than any President from Wahington to Clinton.

The dumbass called Bush 'Un-Patriotic' for adding $4 trillion in 8 years (only $2.5 trillion in 6 years, with the libs controlling spending & adding another $1.5 in only 2 years after that).

Obama, by comparison, added nearly $7 trillion in his 1st 4 years, almost doubling Bush's numbers after 6 years.

And here we are, 71 - 72 pages later, and you liberal finger pointers, like Democrats /Obama, are STILL trying to blame someone else for your party's failures and f*-ups...

The title of this thread SHOULD be:

Will Liverals EVUH Take Personal Accountability For What They Did .. Or Will They Continue To Be Children, Blaming Others?

Or if you want to accuratel reflect the whining going on, just give it the title:

'B...b...b...but Buuuuuuuuusssshhhh!

Liberals, however, on this board trying to project their actions onto Republicans is hilarious to watch....almost as funny as the grape-stomping episode on 'I love Lucy.'

Only the truly dumbest imbeciles blame the 110th Congress for the economic collapse caused by toxic loans written years earlier.

FACTS...

On a parallel track was the Community Reinvestment Act. New CRA regulations in 1995 required banks to demonstrate that they were making mortgage loans to underserved communities, which inevitably included borrowers whose credit standing did not qualify them for a conventional mortgage loan.
A Government-Mandated Housing Bubble

And even though Bush administration made warnings about the potential housing bust!
GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
Setting the Record Straight: The Three Most Egregious Claims In The New York Times Article On The Housing Crisis

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)
1
Barney Frank's Fannie and Freddie Muddle

The CRA did not cause the meltdown.

Barney Frank did not cause the meltdown.

The meltdown was caused by dropping interest rates to 1%, putting people into homes with little to zero down payment, and a greedy Wallstreet able to write loans that didn't matter if they could be paid back. What was needed to prevent the meltdown was oversight but Republican leadership in the Senate blocked all GSE reform bills.

 

[healthmyths]

As pointed out many, many times....

The 'mess' Obama 'inherited' was the 'mess' his own party left him. Dems took over a near super majority control of Congress - budget, spending, & thus the economy- with 2 years left to go under Bush....coincidently at the exact time even Liberals say the economy started going down.

4 years of near super majority economic control led to record-setting deficit spending ('monthly', 'annual', and 'total'), Obama's fiscal inexperience and stubborness to do it his way while ignoring advice resulted in the 1st Credit Rating down-grade in our nation's history, & he ended up adding more debt than any President from Wahington to Clinton.

The dumbass called Bush 'Un-Patriotic' for adding $4 trillion in 8 years (only $2.5 trillion in 6 years, with the libs controlling spending & adding another $1.5 in only 2 years after that).

Obama, by comparison, added nearly $7 trillion in his 1st 4 years, almost doubling Bush's numbers after 6 years.

And here we are, 71 - 72 pages later, and you liberal finger pointers, like Democrats /Obama, are STILL trying to blame someone else for your party's failures and f*-ups...

The title of this thread SHOULD be:

Will Liverals EVUH Take Personal Accountability For What They Did .. Or Will They Continue To Be Children, Blaming Others?

Or if you want to accuratel reflect the whining going on, just give it the title:

'B...b...b...but Buuuuuuuuusssshhhh!

Liberals, however, on this board trying to project their actions onto Republicans is hilarious to watch....almost as funny as the grape-stomping episode on 'I love Lucy.'

Only the truly dumbest imbeciles blame the 110th Congress for the economic collapse caused by toxic loans written years earlier.

FACTS...

On a parallel track was the Community Reinvestment Act. New CRA regulations in 1995 required banks to demonstrate that they were making mortgage loans to underserved communities, which inevitably included borrowers whose credit standing did not qualify them for a conventional mortgage loan.
A Government-Mandated Housing Bubble

And even though Bush administration made warnings about the potential housing bust!
GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
Setting the Record Straight: The Three Most Egregious Claims In The New York Times Article On The Housing Crisis

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)
1
Barney Frank's Fannie and Freddie Muddle

The CRA did not cause the meltdown.

Barney Frank did not cause the meltdown.

The meltdown was caused by dropping interest rates to 1%, putting people into homes with little to zero down payment, and a greedy Wallstreet able to write loans that didn't matter if they could be paid back. What was needed to prevent the meltdown was oversight but Republican leadership in the Senate blocked all GSE reform bills.

NOT ONE FACT!
provide sources for your statements otherwise you are full of crap!

 

[healthmyths]

As pointed out many, many times....

The 'mess' Obama 'inherited' was the 'mess' his own party left him. Dems took over a near super majority control of Congress - budget, spending, & thus the economy- with 2 years left to go under Bush....coincidently at the exact time even Liberals say the economy started going down.

4 years of near super majority economic control led to record-setting deficit spending ('monthly', 'annual', and 'total'), Obama's fiscal inexperience and stubborness to do it his way while ignoring advice resulted in the 1st Credit Rating down-grade in our nation's history, & he ended up adding more debt than any President from Wahington to Clinton.

The dumbass called Bush 'Un-Patriotic' for adding $4 trillion in 8 years (only $2.5 trillion in 6 years, with the libs controlling spending & adding another $1.5 in only 2 years after that).

Obama, by comparison, added nearly $7 trillion in his 1st 4 years, almost doubling Bush's numbers after 6 years.

And here we are, 71 - 72 pages later, and you liberal finger pointers, like Democrats /Obama, are STILL trying to blame someone else for your party's failures and f*-ups...

The title of this thread SHOULD be:

Will Liverals EVUH Take Personal Accountability For What They Did .. Or Will They Continue To Be Children, Blaming Others?

Or if you want to accuratel reflect the whining going on, just give it the title:

'B...b...b...but Buuuuuuuuusssshhhh!

Liberals, however, on this board trying to project their actions onto Republicans is hilarious to watch....almost as funny as the grape-stomping episode on 'I love Lucy.'

Only the truly dumbest imbeciles blame the 110th Congress for the economic collapse caused by toxic loans written years earlier.

FACTS...

On a parallel track was the Community Reinvestment Act. New CRA regulations in 1995 required banks to demonstrate that they were making mortgage loans to underserved communities, which inevitably included borrowers whose credit standing did not qualify them for a conventional mortgage loan.
A Government-Mandated Housing Bubble

And even though Bush administration made warnings about the potential housing bust!
GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
Setting the Record Straight: The Three Most Egregious Claims In The New York Times Article On The Housing Crisis

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)
1
Barney Frank's Fannie and Freddie Muddle

Let me get this straight A person goes to the bank looking for a rather small loan to buy a house He's earning 25k at his job and he wants to borrow 250k The bank HAD to give it to him?

Depended on WHERE he lived and what race he was!

in the Buycks-Roberson v. Citibank Fed. Sav. Bank, 1994 suit against redlining. Most significant of all, ACORN was the driving force behind a 1995 regulatory revision pushed through by the Clinton Administration that greatly expanded the CRA (Community Reinvestment Act) and laid the groundwork for the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac borne financial crisis we now confront. Barack Obama was the attorney representing ACORN in this effort. With this new authority, ACORN used its subsidiary, ACORN Housing, to promote subprime loans more aggressively.
-------------------------
In 1999, under pressure from the Clinton administration, Fannie Mae, the nation's largest home mortgage underwriter, relaxed credit requirements on the loans it would purchase from other banks and lenders, hoping that easing these restrictions would result in increased loan availability for minority and low-income buyers.
------------------------------------
Rham Emmanuel, NOW OBAMA CHIEF OF STAFF and Jamie Gorelick were employees and directors of Fannie and freddie took between the two took out over $20 million. Gorelick was appointed Vice Chairman of Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae) from 1997 to 2003. She served alongside former Clinton Administration official Franklin Raines During that period, Fannie Mae developed a $10 billion accounting scandal. Gorelick took home $26.46 million in the period from 1998 to 2002 (she left in that year, so she wasn’t there for the entire period under investigation). Of that figure, nearly $15 million came from EPS bonuses.

Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Invest in Democrats
Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Invest in Democrats

 

[Faun]

As pointed out many, many times....

The 'mess' Obama 'inherited' was the 'mess' his own party left him. Dems took over a near super majority control of Congress - budget, spending, & thus the economy- with 2 years left to go under Bush....coincidently at the exact time even Liberals say the economy started going down.

4 years of near super majority economic control led to record-setting deficit spending ('monthly', 'annual', and 'total'), Obama's fiscal inexperience and stubborness to do it his way while ignoring advice resulted in the 1st Credit Rating down-grade in our nation's history, & he ended up adding more debt than any President from Wahington to Clinton.

The dumbass called Bush 'Un-Patriotic' for adding $4 trillion in 8 years (only $2.5 trillion in 6 years, with the libs controlling spending & adding another $1.5 in only 2 years after that).

Obama, by comparison, added nearly $7 trillion in his 1st 4 years, almost doubling Bush's numbers after 6 years.

And here we are, 71 - 72 pages later, and you liberal finger pointers, like Democrats /Obama, are STILL trying to blame someone else for your party's failures and f*-ups...

The title of this thread SHOULD be:

Will Liverals EVUH Take Personal Accountability For What They Did .. Or Will They Continue To Be Children, Blaming Others?

Or if you want to accuratel reflect the whining going on, just give it the title:

'B...b...b...but Buuuuuuuuusssshhhh!

Liberals, however, on this board trying to project their actions onto Republicans is hilarious to watch....almost as funny as the grape-stomping episode on 'I love Lucy.'

Only the truly dumbest imbeciles blame the 110th Congress for the economic collapse caused by toxic loans written years earlier.

FACTS...

On a parallel track was the Community Reinvestment Act. New CRA regulations in 1995 required banks to demonstrate that they were making mortgage loans to underserved communities, which inevitably included borrowers whose credit standing did not qualify them for a conventional mortgage loan.
A Government-Mandated Housing Bubble

And even though Bush administration made warnings about the potential housing bust!
GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
Setting the Record Straight: The Three Most Egregious Claims In The New York Times Article On The Housing Crisis

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)
1
Barney Frank's Fannie and Freddie Muddle

The CRA did not cause the meltdown.

Barney Frank did not cause the meltdown.

The meltdown was caused by dropping interest rates to 1%, putting people into homes with little to zero down payment, and a greedy Wallstreet able to write loans that didn't matter if they could be paid back. What was needed to prevent the meltdown was oversight but Republican leadership in the Senate blocked all GSE reform bills.

NOT ONE FACT!
provide sources for your statements otherwise you are full of crap!

LOL

You're a flaming idiot.

Hell, you post links that prove you wrong, yet you keep spreading the same lies over and over. What value is there in that? At any rate, I've posted links corroborating what I said many times. I need not post links every single time one of you yahoo's tries to blame either the 110th Congress, a single member from the minority party, or a 30+ year old law that comprised just a small minority of all the toxic loans which catered the housing markets.

 

[easyt65]

The truth is such a hard pill to swallow for Liberals...

 

[healthmyths]

As pointed out many, many times....

The 'mess' Obama 'inherited' was the 'mess' his own party left him. Dems took over a near super majority control of Congress - budget, spending, & thus the economy- with 2 years left to go under Bush....coincidently at the exact time even Liberals say the economy started going down.

4 years of near super majority economic control led to record-setting deficit spending ('monthly', 'annual', and 'total'), Obama's fiscal inexperience and stubborness to do it his way while ignoring advice resulted in the 1st Credit Rating down-grade in our nation's history, & he ended up adding more debt than any President from Wahington to Clinton.

The dumbass called Bush 'Un-Patriotic' for adding $4 trillion in 8 years (only $2.5 trillion in 6 years, with the libs controlling spending & adding another $1.5 in only 2 years after that).

Obama, by comparison, added nearly $7 trillion in his 1st 4 years, almost doubling Bush's numbers after 6 years.

And here we are, 71 - 72 pages later, and you liberal finger pointers, like Democrats /Obama, are STILL trying to blame someone else for your party's failures and f*-ups...

The title of this thread SHOULD be:

Will Liverals EVUH Take Personal Accountability For What They Did .. Or Will They Continue To Be Children, Blaming Others?

Or if you want to accuratel reflect the whining going on, just give it the title:

'B...b...b...but Buuuuuuuuusssshhhh!

Liberals, however, on this board trying to project their actions onto Republicans is hilarious to watch....almost as funny as the grape-stomping episode on 'I love Lucy.'

Only the truly dumbest imbeciles blame the 110th Congress for the economic collapse caused by toxic loans written years earlier.

FACTS...

On a parallel track was the Community Reinvestment Act. New CRA regulations in 1995 required banks to demonstrate that they were making mortgage loans to underserved communities, which inevitably included borrowers whose credit standing did not qualify them for a conventional mortgage loan.
A Government-Mandated Housing Bubble

And even though Bush administration made warnings about the potential housing bust!
GWB's administration was LAUGHED AT BY Democrats Frank and Dodd after 17 times trying to get Fannie/Freddie fixed!
"Over the past six years, the President and his Administration have not only warned of the systemic consequences of failure to reform GSEs but also put forward thoughtful plans to reduce the risk that either Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac would encounter such difficulties.
President Bush publicly called for GSE reform at least 17 times in 2008 alone before Congress acted.

Unfortunately, these warnings went unheeded, as the President's repeated attempts to reform the supervision of these entities were thwarted by the legislative maneuvering of those who emphatically denied there were problems.
Setting the Record Straight: The Three Most Egregious Claims In The New York Times Article On The Housing Crisis

Many prominent Democrats, including House Finance Chairman Barney Frank, opposed any legislation correcting the risks posed by GSEs.
* House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-MA) criticized
the President's warning saying:
"these two entities - Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac - are not facing any kind of financial crisis .
The more people exaggerate these problems,
the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing."...
(Stephen Labaton, "New Agency Proposed To Oversee Freddie Mac And Fannie Mae," New York Times, 9/11/03)

* Senate Committee on Banking, Housing and Urban Affairs Chairman Christopher Dodd also ignored the President's warnings and
called on him to "immediately reconsider his ill-advised" position. Eric Dash, "Fannie Mae's Offer To Help Ease Credit Squeeze
Is Rejected, As Critics Complain Of Opportunism," New York Times, 8/11/07)
1
Barney Frank's Fannie and Freddie Muddle

The CRA did not cause the meltdown.

Barney Frank did not cause the meltdown.

The meltdown was caused by dropping interest rates to 1%, putting people into homes with little to zero down payment, and a greedy Wallstreet able to write loans that didn't matter if they could be paid back. What was needed to prevent the meltdown was oversight but Republican leadership in the Senate blocked all GSE reform bills.

NOT ONE FACT!
provide sources for your statements otherwise you are full of crap!

LOL

You're a flaming idiot.

Hell, you post links that prove you wrong, yet you keep spreading the same lies over and over. What value is there in that? At any rate, I've posted links corroborating what I said many times. I need not post links every single time one of you yahoo's tries to blame either the 110th Congress, a single member from the minority party, or a 30+ year old law that comprised just a small minority of all the toxic loans which catered the housing markets.

So why would I post links that prove me wrong? What a dumb statement!
I've not seen one of your links. Almost all your comments are personal subjective with NO proof...just your opinion!
This crap I've heard from you idiots..."comprised a small minority of all the toxic loans" stupid argument once too often.
IDIOT!
Let's assume 5% of the loans were "toxic"! Do you understand the implications of "toxic"? It meant that when a subprime loan defaulted, it now put pressure
on less "toxic" loans. Lenders as I am sure you have no understanding of, do not have a pile of money sitting around that when a loan is made, that pile of
cash is sent to the owner. IDIOT! less then 10% of banks keep green cash on hand. So the real number was something like:
and here is a FACT for you with a LINK!

World Derivatives Market Estimated As Big As $1.2 Quadrillion Notional, as Banks Fight Efforts to Rein It In
Posted on March 26, 2013 by Yves Smith
Derivatives, specifically credit default swaps, were the reason what would otherwise been a contained subprime crisis into a global financial meltdown. If you have not done so already, we strongly encourage you to call your Senator and Representative and tell them you are strongly opposed to this stealth effort by banks to keep taxpayers on the hook for the derivatives casino and allow it to continue to operate with minimal supervision.
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