Pop23
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And the evidence that someone who is suicidal would not use another device or method is?
You might want to also check on the use of SSRI antidepressants and violent behavior as well.
For the 20,000 who chose a gun, they almost all had other options (standing on a train track, carbon monoxide in the car, pill overdose etc...) but they chose a gun they had access to; most likely one in the house.
So what?
If they didn't have a gun they would have chose another means
And none of that matters because people have the right to take their own lives if they so choose
Been over this before numerous times.
They had access to drowning themselves in the tub, walking in front of traffic, head in the oven, overdosing on OTC meds, jumping off a building, etc... before the gun purchase.
So what? You don't know when exactly the decision was made to commit suicide
In about 22,000 cases, we do. No gun in the house (as it was before the gun was purchased) and you have fewer deaths.
Tragically they will often find a way but maybe after some contemplation...perhaps they change their minds? Maybe using a method that is less effective or permanent...they survive. Either way; its tragic.
I agree that all suicide is tragic. But you need to post the evidence that, minus a gun, the suicide would not proceed.
Perhaps they change there mind, of course that is always a possibility, but perhaps they get into a car, and head it into on-coming traffic, killing no just themselves, but others as well, or simply use someone else's car, as a pedestrian, like this:
Pedestrian suicide: They step into traffic — and haunt unlucky drivers – Twin Cities
or they jump off a bridge killing the driver below:
https://nypost.com/2017/10/29/driver-killed-after-12-year-old-attempting-suicide-jumps-on-her-car/
Won, I bet the 22 year old had wished the kid had shot himself, cuz she'd be alive today.