Soggy in NOLA
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Are you saying Al Gore DIDN'T invent the internet? Next thing you'll be telling me is that Michael JAckson is dead.
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The actual rare, hardly ever seen, independent thinker.So, the $64,000 question we ALL want answered is: What ARE you?
See, you're getting all upset now. I love it when a plan comes together!
Please go back and read your OP, and try to see the irony in it. Then read all your posts here, which have been nothing more than far-left regurgitated, spoon fed talking points from places like the DU, sweetened with inaccurate, ad-hom demonization religiously following Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals, then you have answered your own question.
Tack on your ageism bigotry, and the fact that you use vehicular manslaughter analogies against old people, and the leftist partisan hack label fits you to a T.
Now you have admitted you're partisan. Progress!See, you're getting all upset now. I love it when a plan comes together!
Please go back and read your OP, and try to see the irony in it. Then read all your posts here, which have been nothing more than far-left regurgitated, spoon fed talking points from places like the DU, sweetened with inaccurate, ad-hom demonization religiously following Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals, then you have answered your own question.
Tack on your ageism bigotry, and the fact that you use vehicular manslaughter analogies against old people, and the leftist partisan hack label fits you to a T.
Umm,
Here's your issue. You can't decipher my disagreement with the right's tactics in expressing their views and dismissing the left's with my ACTUAL VIEWS ON ISSUES. Once you can tell the difference, let me know and maybe I'll share some of those views which are, essentially, what determine whether I'm a partisan (boogy boogy) or not.
You seem to think that these are two opposing football teams, and if you know one side's "people" you play for the other.
No, I just hate dirtbags and I happen to listen to talk radio on my rides home hence my feelings for them, as people, NOT their views.
I guess you won't learn the different unless it was tattooed on your forehead, but I digress. My views on issues determine my partisanship, not my distaste for the political discourse going on between the big ole children. Pretty simple stuff.
There's a thread devoted to it, where you can debate it there.
You hacks are killing me with your strawmen!
Then take the straw off your signature.
No Country
Why are you in favor of limiting my speech?
Now you have admitted you're partisan. Progress!
Now just embrace it and stop lying about it.
And work on the ageism bigotry thing. That's about the most ugly hate there is.
If there's points of it you think you can debate, have at it! I linked you to the thread!cowboy propaganda.
KISS look at Massachusetts.
The model for what is proposed. How far in the red is that state??? Hello?
That is an unrealistic comparison willow tree.
First study after study has been done showing that universal health care if implemented throughout the country will actually drive health care costs down.
Secondly if individual states try to go it alone they are at distinct disadvantages . The first thing the insurance companies do is raise rates and say tough luck if you don't like it we will just pull out of your state.
For instance Kentucky tried several years ago to put caps on medical and auto insurance rates. Insurance companies just pulled out of the state. Took their ball and went home and said we won't play unless you let us charge what we want.
States like Massachusetts that try to go it alone are seeing the insurance companies raise rates sky high because they are being told they cannot exclude people for pre existing conditions. With insurance rates that high, hospitals and doctors naturally want their share of the pie so rates go up across the board including for the state run programs.
Common sense says prices cannot be controlled unless all states are in and coverage is universal across the nation.
Naturally the insurance companies don't like that because that means they will have to compete for a share of the pie. It means they won't make multi billions a year , they may just make a few billion.
Inaccurate again, and more ageism bigotry on display!death-marked old man.
Inaccurate again, and more ageism bigotry on display!death-marked old man.
You really should seek counseling on why you hate old people so much, and want them all to die.Inaccurate again, and more ageism bigotry on display!death-marked old man.
Oh noes!! Booo!
It's the other way around, dummy. Have you not been listening to Obama, Frank, Pelosi, et al?Er, the "demand" part already exists. The "supply" part comes with the number of uninsured who will henceforth become insured by some sort of insurance pool, newly added to the existing industry. As far as I know, the CBO has addressed the potential deficit increases, and not supply and demand within the industry. I believe Peach was talking about driving down individual costs.
The greatly increased DEMAND comes when you enroll 47 million more people, and have not the nurses, doctors, facilities or supplies to handle the increased demand. And this bill? Addresses none of that at all.
Sorry kids, none of tis crap adds up. Clearly the majority of Americans don't want what is being foisted.. so.. what's the REAL agenda?
and you said you wanted an honest discusson nobody here ever said we should stand idly by and watch them die.. how about making them pay for their care instead of sending the money home to bolster the Mexican economy>> You want Mexico to thrive while the US of KKKA goes bankrupt? How is that moral doyathink????Krauthammer predicted this on Sunday.
no why don't you tell us why we American citizens are obligated to work and pay for the health care of 1/2 of Mexico! How moral is that?
Would that be Charles Krauthammer that immoral man who spouts off on Fox news regularly? Surely you wouldn't believe a word that man says? Immorality and total lack of empathy for any humanity reeks from the man. He is so immoral it shows on his physical demeanor and literally makes him one of the ugliest men I have ever seen. oh goody goody the demoncats have added a new word to their repitoire of insults, mob, extremists, racists,bigots and now immoral,, and I'll bet your azz is an atheist tool
As to your question willow tree why do tax payers end up footing the bill for the emergency medical treatment of illegals. I told you that in my last post . Very clearly I believe. Did you not read it willowtree?
We pay for emergency medical care for illegals because logically we can't ignore them possibly getting some illness that could spread and kill millions of us.i wasn't talking about emergency care, do you not read?? my question is why should hard working tax paying american citizens pay for full health care of 12 of mexico doyathink?
And we pay because the government refuses to shut the boarder with Mexico because business wants the illegals here to drive down wages.
Pretty simple really. except every time someone tries to check legal status the democrats block it,, can you explain why the voted down the Heller amendment???
And morality dictates that if we allow these people to be here we don't stand idly by and let them die in emergencies.
You really should seek counseling on why you hate old people so much, and want them all to die.
And should also work on your ASSumptions. You have no idea how old anyone here is, and the only reason it might matter to you is, your bigotry.
Correct? Yes.
See, you're getting all upset now. I love it when a plan comes together!Here's how stupid you are. While you are here nursing this thread, crybabying all over it, I am also slapping around other partisan hacks in another thread who are trying to blame Obama for the uptick in violence in Iraq! Only your claim to be non-partisan could be more idiotic than that!
Word and deed. So many hacks, so little time!
Here's how stupid you are, since it hasn't been made obvious for you. I'll stop batting at you now like a cat does to a furball.
QUESTION:
Which of my political views make me one side, over the other, in-terms of being a partisan.
I mean, if you're going to label me something, fuck it, let's discuss based on its actual merits.
What views make me which-sided? G'luck. I already know your response.
Please go back and read your OP, and try to see the irony in it. Then read all your posts here, which have been nothing more than far-left regurgitated, spoon fed talking points from places like the DU, sweetened with inaccurate, ad-hom demonization religiously following Saul Alinsky's rules for radicals, then you have answered your own question.
Tack on your ageism bigotry, and the fact that you use vehicular manslaughter analogies against old people, and the leftist partisan hack label fits you to a T.
Are you saying Al Gore DIDN'T invent the internet? Next thing you'll be telling me is that Michael JAckson is dead.
KISS look at Massachusetts.
The model for what is proposed. How far in the red is that state??? Hello?
None of the states which have implemented their own health care initiatives ever promised it wouldn't cost anything at the startup, nor that it would ever be a profitable exercise. THINK, for a change, would ya?
The actual rare, hardly ever seen, independent thinker.So, the $64,000 question we ALL want answered is: What ARE you?
Who indeed, not that long ago used to wear the mask and the tights -- stopping purse snatchers, helping old ladies across the street, base jumping off buildings and towers at midnight, and running from the law who were trying to catch me for two years.