Taz
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Right from the mouth of the world champion cherry picking goal post mover.Just like I said.I believe you are being disingenuous when you say you believe those things really did happen. You don't believe that Jesus performed any miracles, right?So you believe that Jesus existed, but everything attributed to him is bullshit. Do you realize that the people who wrote these stories thought they actually happened? So you'd be misreading their intent?
Those things did actually happen, you just don't understand the way in which those fantastical claims are true. As far as their intent, they were as clear as can be.
"From his mouth there went a sharp sword with which to smite the nations." rev. 19:15
Still works like a charm.
What you call miracles were really just signs that Jesus was the expected messiah.
Revealing the hidden teaching and wisdom of God in the divine commands, what no other man but the messiah could do, was the greatest sign.
Just like in the miracle of the multiplication of the loaves, it was not about Jesus feeding fish sandwiches to 5000 people out of thin air, it was about him teaching such a large crowd of skeptical people well acquainted with liars and false prophets what they hungered for, a clear revelation from God that was pleasing to the eye and good to eat.Instructions from God that satisfied all of their doubts and answered all of their questions.
Every miracle attributed to Jesus is like a giant X on a treasure map marking a place where something of great value was buried and hidden.
" The kingdom of Heaven is like treasure lying buried in a field. The man who found it, buried it again."
What was the water turning into wine?
Jesus was at a wedding where the guests are supposed to be festive, hopeful and happy for the couple which was hard to do during such a harsh time of corruption and brutal foreign oppression. Running out of wine just means that the happy conversations ran dry and there was nothing left to talk about but the bitter waters of daily life.
When His mother suggested that he do something she was prodding him to talk about the ideas he was developing which turned the bitter waters of their harsh lives into a finer wine than the false hope that was being served before, reinvigorating the festivities and faith and joy of everyone there.
It was like taking the messed up things everyone has been dealing with for decades and turning it into good news, Turning the waters of affliction into the finest wine they ever tasted..Basically, he rescued a party from disaster.
A miracle!
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