You Wonder Why The World Is Laughing at the United States?

[TheOldSchool]

Liberals are so blinded by their hatred of George Bush, that they can't even see obama burning down the house.

Cons are so blinded by their hatred of Obama they can't even... ah fuck it there's no point with you guys.

But here's a gift:

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[Warrior102]

Who is laughing now Warrior?

I am. At your pussified sissyness.

 

[rightwinger]

Who is laughing now Warrior?

I am. At your pussified sissyness.

Your tough guy Bush screwed the pooch on Iraq and Obama called him on it before he even started

That's why Obama is president

 

[Katzndogz]

It wasn't Bush being mocked by that Dane. He never mentioned Bush. The world has moved on from Bush to the disaster now infecting the white house. Only liberals are clinging to the last time they had someone to hate. The liberal grasp on reality is disappearing.

 

[rightwinger]

It wasn't Bush being mocked by that Dane. He never mentioned Bush. The world has moved on from Bush to the disaster now infecting the white house. Only liberals are clinging to the last time they had someone to hate. The liberal grasp on reality is disappearing.

Actually, the rest of the worlds want nothing to do with today's Republican Party

War mongers, climate deniers, capital punishment...scares the hell out of them

 

[freedombecki]

Laughing like when we invaded Iraq to take away their WMDs?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

Intelligent people who followed the news know that it was Congress who decided to follow the information and money trail where all roads led to Baghdad, like it or not. Unfortunately, when Saddam moved the WOMDs and biological stores around in secret, he used people like Peter Arnett and other fiscally ambitious people in the press to pretend there were none. The Democrats then later seized on this as their means to ousting President Bush whom they detested because he was making friends with many, many people in the world for his destruction of brownfields using incentives to get the work done for free by industry. So successful was he, their businesses flourished, making the militant-like wealth redistributors in academia concerned that they would lose their powers in Congress, so they got on the bandwagon first until they developed a lockstep mania and whipped all their spokespersons into the belief that the Iraq war was a mistake, which it was not. They sent Sandy Berger into the National Archives to remove original materials indicating the goods on Clinton that the State Department had recommended military responses to Saddam Hussein's reign of terror against his neighbors, Kurds, and citizens within Iraqi borders who were mass-exterminated by him at various times, often in secrecy and under the cover of darkness, and some in broad daylight.

Saddam bragged of his plan to eradicate Israel with nukes to his fellow Arab leaders. Many people have never read Secretary of State Madeline Allbright's State Department pages on the War Crimes of Saddam Hussein, not to mention the threats he had made against American travel to his country for any reason. Having lost three grandparents in the Holocaust, Secretary of State was likely placed under a lot of grief by Saddam's genocidal tendencies against his country's own citizens, not to mention all his neighbors. I'm glad I got to read them, but the one newspaper source that kept her official pages removed them a few months prior to President Bush's re-election to a second term.

I'm glad to see the actual feelings of the left 's politicos when New York City had just endured the heart-wrenching destruction of the World Trade Center, and up until the time of taking up a reckoning with Iraq's genocidal administration that had its finger in every terrorist pie and even offered homicide-bomber families fat checks for lost loved ones. It was quite a trade in flesh for killing Israelis and Saddam's enemies, and it is still repulsive to think about.

The left was correct in supporting the Iraqi war. It was wrong to use it as a political maiming device against President Bush, imho.

There's nothing much to laugh at about the United States. We've been good world citizens, and our soldiers who served over there are second to none. Prayers up that our soldiers know how very grateful the nation is to them for their sacrifices and bringing freedom to people who suffered a dreadful terrorist as a leader for 25 years. They are free now. I just hope they can maintain a spirit of freedom with the push to get out too fast.

 

[shart_attack]

Laughing like when we invaded Iraq to take away their WMDs?

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

I don't oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income, to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.... The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors...and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.

I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president.

Barack Obama, Oct 2 2002

Who is laughing now Warrior?

A good speech.

Pretty idealistic, not tempered with much if indeed any D.C. "street smarts," and given its date, very likely co-written by the "Rev." Jeremiah Wright.

A good speech, though.

 

[westwall]

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by:
-- Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by:
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

I don't oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income, to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.... The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors...and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.

I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president.

Barack Obama, Oct 2 2002

Who is laughing now Warrior?

A good speech.

Pretty idealistic, not tempered with much if indeed any D.C. "street smarts," and given its date, very likely co-written by the "Rev." Jeremiah Wright.

A good speech, though.

Yep. With the aid of teleprompters he reads speeches quite well.

 

[jillian]

Obama is an embarrassment and a disgrace.

no. bush was. *shrug*

 

[Katzndogz]

It wasn't Bush being mocked by that Dane. He never mentioned Bush. The world has moved on from Bush to the disaster now infecting the white house. Only liberals are clinging to the last time they had someone to hate. The liberal grasp on reality is disappearing.

Actually, the rest of the worlds want nothing to do with today's Republican Party

War mongers, climate deniers, capital punishment...scares the hell out of them

The rest of the world wants nothing to do with the United States. We are unreliable and untrustworthy. Even investment is moving to China and Russia. Europe has refused to sanction Russia. Poland openly states that the US is no longer a leader. And now European liberals are losing in their own countries.

 

[JFK_USA]

No. If people laughed at Americans, it's this holier than thou stature that some Americans project. Where some Americans (not all) claim America is the greatest country in America when there is not a positive category that Americans are number 1 in. Not even the richest middle class anymore. That belongs to socialist Canada.

Being patriotic doesn't mean claiming superiority over other nations just because you say so. I love my country and think it's a great place to live but that doesn't mean the country doesn't have flaws or doesn't need to change. Things can always be better than they are. The status quo isn't always the greatest thing. America was once the greatest nation in measurable quantifiers. We invested in our workforce, we paid people a good wage. We respected our fellow citizens and differing viewpoints. We welcomed immigrants and didn't cast them as the enemy. We stood for things like civil rights and that all mankind are created equal regardless of their differences.

We have lost our way and instead of fighting for every American's rights, we decide to hurt and degrade other Americans. That's not right.

 

[westwall]

Obama is an embarrassment and a disgrace.

no. bush was. *shrug*

Yes, he was too. No doubt about that.

 

[Mr. H.]

Obama is an embarrassment and a disgrace.

no. bush was. *shrug*

Yes, he was too. No doubt about that.

Here ya go- one for each of yaz...

 

[rightwinger]

I don't oppose all wars. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other armchair, weekend warriors in this administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income, to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

Now let me be clear: I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power.... The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors...and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a U.S. occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences.

I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars. So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president.

Barack Obama, Oct 2 2002

Who is laughing now Warrior?

A good speech.

Pretty idealistic, not tempered with much if indeed any D.C. "street smarts," and given its date, very likely co-written by the "Rev." Jeremiah Wright.

A good speech, though.

Yep. With the aid of teleprompters he reads speeches quite well.

Based on his blunder of an invasion, maybe Bush should have used Obamas teleprompter

 

[Warrior102]

Based on his blunder of an invasion, maybe Bush should have used Obamas teleprompter

Not quite sure what your warfighting skills are...
Why don't you enlighten the board and share your experiences.
What year did you enlist?

 

[FJO]

Obama is an embarrassment and a disgrace.

What do you really expect when you elect someone who says he visited all 57 states except Alaska?

What do you expect when you elect a boy to do a man's job?

TWICE!!??

 

[rightwinger]

Based on his blunder of an invasion, maybe Bush should have used Obamas teleprompter

Not quite sure what your warfighting skills are...
Why don't you enlighten the board and share your experiences.
What year did you enlist?

I am bright enough to realize that Saddam Hussein was no threat and that an invasion and occupation would be a nightmare

So tell us mighty Warrior, what in your impressive military resume makes you more qualified than anyone else on this board to discuss the geopolitical and military realities of 2003 Iraq?

 

[Warrior102]

I am bright enough to realize that Saddam Hussein was no threat and that an invasion and occupation would be a nightmare

So tell us mighty Warrior, what in your impressive military resume makes you more qualified than anyone else on this board to discuss the geopolitical and military realities of 2003 Iraq?

You have avoided the question... again.
When did you enlist in the military?

 

[rightwinger]

I am bright enough to realize that Saddam Hussein was no threat and that an invasion and occupation would be a nightmare

So tell us mighty Warrior, what in your impressive military resume makes you more qualified than anyone else on this board to discuss the geopolitical and military realities of 2003 Iraq?

You have avoided the question... again.
When did you enlist in the military?

You have yet to established your own credentials. In your "When did you serve?" rants, what possible advantage does your own military service give you that gives your opinion any more credence than any other poster on this board?

Let us in on the unique perspective that serving inthe Navy gave you on the 2003 Iraq political environment

 

[jillian]

I am bright enough to realize that Saddam Hussein was no threat and that an invasion and occupation would be a nightmare

So tell us mighty Warrior, what in your impressive military resume makes you more qualified than anyone else on this board to discuss the geopolitical and military realities of 2003 Iraq?

You have avoided the question... again.
When did you enlist in the military?

who cares? other than spittle running down their chins loons....