Zelensky's three big miscalculations

[SavannahMann]

So what about that 50% energy, and 30% grain supply?

As far as Europe goes? Grain is a small matter. Germany is a net exporter on grains.

Wheat Exports by Country 2022

Wheat exports by country in 2022 plus a searchable database of all wheat shipping nations

www.worldstopexports.com

That leaves Oil and Natural Gas. And there, Europe has a lot of options.

Boris Johnson looks to increase North Sea oil and gas production

Prime minister prepares new UK energy strategy, seeking self-sufficiency following Russia’s invasion of Ukraine

amp.ft.com

North Sea Oil and Gas is of course available. They can probably meet half of the shortfall before the summer is over. That leaves half of the shortfall to manage through many other alternative energy sources.

Russia is not nearly as vital as you imagine. They were an easy source. But the source can be shifted. And they don’t need one source to take up the slack. They can get it from many others.

Venezuela may even see an economic boost in the short term.

All the ships carrying Russian oil will simply sail to other ports and get the oil there. Ships carrying LNG away from Russia will instead carry it to Europe.

The ships and crews don’t care where they go so long as they get fed and paid.

Russia on the other hand is going to detest it. As has been shown already.

Every day Russia loses influence. Access to Kaliningrad will be restricted. People there will feel the pinch of the Sanctions. And access to the Baltic Sea will be restricted. With Sweden and Finland looking to join NATO Putin adds to his list of enemies while gaining No allies.

Putin has saved NATO from the dustbin of obsolescence. The grain they did export will rot in warehouses. Or be sold for Cents on the dollar to be transshipped through a third party country for sale.

You know this to be true. You know it is true because you are absolutely adamant that the World needs Russia. Russia is already falling towards Second World Status. Soon they will be desperately clinging to that and looking at third world status.

Putin knows it to be true too. That is why he is trotting out the propagandists to try and weaken the resolve of the West. He can’t believe it is happening. And he is out of options on saving the Russian Economy.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Russia is not nearly as vital as you imagine. They were an easy source. But the source can be shifted. And they don’t need one source to take up the slack. They can get it from many others.

Are you on crack?

This is a global economy. There are knock-on effects outside of the EU, and the US as well.

If Europe and Ukraine are no longer exporting who do you think is going to start starving?

What is that going to do to commodity prices?

Oil. natural gas?

Can you NOT critically think?

Venezuela may even see an economic boost in the short term.

So you think Venezuela, along with Iran (probably). Are going to suddenly save our ass.

After the west has suppressed, overthrown, supported dictators, and thieves to rob them blind, imprison and murder them...for the past 40 years.

I am going to tell you what is going to happen to places like this, and Russia...they are gonna decouple from the dollar, and sell to China.

Once the perto dollar is gone...the scam is up.

As far as Europe goes? Grain is a small matter. Germany is a net exporter on grains.

So Germany is going to make up for the 30%?.....plus Russia's contribution.

Germany?...for Europe...the middle east as well?

Germany? France? Belgium? Who else?

You have no fucking idea what is about to take place do you?

What about fertilizer?

Russia and Ukraine are the worlds leading suppliers of it.

An American who has never had to suffer for the folly of his government.

 

[Toro]

Sadly, the Ukrainian people elected the idiot Zelensky and now they are paying the price.
#1. Zelensky over-estimated the Western nations support
#2. He misread Ukraine's importance to the West
#3. He misread Putin's intent to invade.
The western nations were never serious about protecting Ukraine or letting them join NATO
Ukraine was seen as expendable, and the West was just using Zelensky as a tool to irritate Putin.

Which explains, of course, why a 40 km long convoy sits outside of Kyiv, and Putin has been humiliated by a comedian who has completely pwnd him in the information wars around the world

LOL

 

[Toro]

So far NATO has done nothing to help Ukraine except talk a good game.
And the EU nations are still buying Russian oil.
A few Ukrainian insurgents will never defeat the massive Russian army.
Zelensky is finally facing reality and is in the process of negotiating terms for Ukraine's surrender to Russia.

NATO has been sending in weapons.

NATO is awesome.

NATO stands for freedom, liberty and Western values. Putin and his supporters do not. They hate the West and America.

Putin is a loser. He's going to be dead soon.

Who will the autocrat lovers worship next?

 

[Toro]

Yes...and no one seems to recognize that Russia is doing everything it can to incrementally apply pressure.

However, Zelensky is a global homo slave of the globalist west.

He will shoot his own people attempting to flee through 'humanitarian corridors', bomb his hospitals, and permit his weapon systems and troops to be embedded among civilians.

Ramzan is waiting for word from Putin...then they will release the Chechens...as well as the full force of the Russian army.

The Russians do not want to destroy the country but Ukraine is running out of time.

All lies. That's the MO of Russian propagandists.

The world LOVES Zelenskyy.

They hate Putin and his corrupt, incompetent, murderous regime.

 

[Dadoalex]

Putin is the one who painted himself into a corner

He misread the strength of Ukrainian resistance
He overrated the strength of his military
He misread the support that Zelensky would receive
He thought his oil would make him immune from Western Sanctions

Don't forget....

Putin misread the Russian people. Soon he will have the revolt he really fears.

 

[Dadoalex]

So far NATO has done nothing to help Ukraine except talk a good game.
And the EU nations are still buying Russian oil.
A few Ukrainian insurgents will never defeat the massive Russian army.
Zelensky is finally facing reality and is in the process of negotiating terms for Ukraine's surrender to Russia.

Last I heard the Z man was offering to allow the Russian army to lay down their arms and walk back to Russia like Napoleon's army did when he was stupid enough to get into a war he could never win.

 

[toobfreak]

Zelensky's three big miscalculations​

1. JOE BIDEN
2. KAMELA HARRIS
3. ANTHONY BLINKEN

 

[Dadoalex]

Yes...and no one seems to recognize that Russia is doing everything it can to incrementally apply pressure.

However, Zelensky is a global homo slave of the globalist west.

He will shoot his own people attempting to flee through 'humanitarian corridors', bomb his hospitals, and permit his weapon systems and troops to be embedded among civilians.

Ramzan is waiting for word from Putin...then they will release the Chechens...as well as the full force of the Russian army.

The Russians do not want to destroy the country but Ukraine is running out of time.

Sooooo
You're saying that Putin's strategy is to lose as many battles, soldiers, and weapons as possible with most of those weapons ending up in Ukrainian hands...
So he can do better later?

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[Dadoalex]

The Russians will quickly get their economy back on track.
China is gobbling up the Russian oil and minerals the U.S. is foolishly boycotting. Turkey is doing the same as China, so is Brazil.

Has the Moscow exchange opened yet?
Ruble move above zero?
Brilliant economic evaluation there TRAITOR.

 

[SavannahMann]

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Are you on crack?

This is a global economy. There are knock-on effects outside of the EU, and the US as well.

If Europe and Ukraine are no longer exporting who do you think is going to start starving?

What is that going to do to commodity prices?

Oil. natural gas?

Can you NOT critically think?


So you think Venezuela, along with Iran (probably). Are going to suddenly save our ass.

After the west has suppressed, overthrown, supported dictators, and thieves to rob them blind, imprison and murder them...for the past 40 years.

I am going to tell you what is going to happen to places like this, and Russia...they are gonna decouple from the dollar, and sell to China.

Once the perto dollar is gone...the scam is up.




So Germany is going to make up for the 30%?.....plus Russia's contribution.

Germany?...for Europe...the middle east as well?

Germany? France? Belgium? Who else?

You have no fucking idea what is about to take place do you?

What about fertilizer?

Russia and Ukraine are the worlds leading suppliers of it.

An American who has never had to suffer for the folly of his government.

Finland is on your list. And yet they want to join NATO. A month ago they were strongly in favor of remaining independent. So you think that Finland doesn’t know where they get their gas from?

Will Finland and Sweden join NATO now?

Russia's invasion of Ukraine has shifted the political dynamics in the two militarily non-aligned Nordic states. Here's how a fast-track NATO process could look.

www.atlanticcouncil.org

Now these nations know where they get their Natural Gas. And they still want to join NATO.

You keep saying China. But why won’t China just go north and take Siberia? Then they wouldn’t need to worry about a new Petro Dollar. They’ll just have the Petro right?

Another thing. You keep screaming at America to go along. But America really isn’t leading on this. It’s America holding Europe back. Biden took a lot longer to shut down Russian oil than the rest of Europe.

Poland wanted to send Fighters to Ukraine. In exchange for some F-16’s. Biden said no that will take longer to negotiate.

Russia is the one panicking. Russia knows they are about to become a pawn, a Vassal of China. From a powerful economy. 12th in the world to what? A Chinese Satellite?

It is why you Trolls and Shills are here online screaming so loudly that we will feel unimaginable pain if we don’t go along with Putin.

 

[rightwinger]

Don't forget....

Putin misread the Russian people. Soon he will have the revolt he really fears.

Agree

I think Putin thinks he can bully the entire population

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Finland is on your list. And yet they want to join NATO. A month ago they were strongly in favor of remaining independent. So you think that Finland doesn’t know where they get their gas from?

You keep selecting these disparate nations and avoiding Occam's Razor.

That doesn't answer the bigger question...what will be the long-term ramification for NATO/EU/US...the greater world of taking huge amounts of food, and energy off of the market.

The only answer is the simplest, clearest one

YES Finland knows...but they also know that they are an EU state and if they go against the EU they will be a pariah as well.

So also YES they will needlessly suffer with the rest...for what?

WW3? Frozen/starving citizens.

You keep saying China. But why won’t China just go north and take Siberia?

Because, unlike us...they realize that business ultimately wins over warlording.

You see, they are where America was in the 19th century...business.

However, unlike the US...they have been a continuous culture for millennia...and know the road that all of this BS leads to.

That is why they signed $117B deal with Russia in February...because...unlike the West...they can see that only death and starvation await us.

Russia is the one panicking. Russia knows they are about to become a pawn, a Vassal of China.

sometimes working for a man and getting a warm bed and some food is better than letting another man take everything you have.

And THAT is where NATO and the west were headed.

Only an idiot wouldn't notice that.

It is why you Trolls and Shills are here online screaming so loudly that we will feel unimaginable pain if we don’t go along with Putin.

Ok...I'm a troll...well we will readdress in six months...see where those gas prices and food prices are then...if too much of our day is not taken by waiting in lines.

 

[SavannahMann]

You keep selecting these disparate nations and avoiding Occam's Razor.

That doesn't answer the bigger question...what will be the long-term ramification for NATO/EU/US...the greater world of taking huge amounts of food, and energy off of the market.

The only answer is the simplest, clearest one

YES Finland knows...but they also know that they are an EU state and if they go against the EU they will be a pariah as well.

So also YES they will needlessly suffer with the rest...for what?

WW3? Frozen/starving citizens.


Because, unlike us...they realize that business ultimately wins over warlording.

You see, they are where America was in the 19th century...business.

However, unlike the US...they have been a continuous culture for millennia...and know the road that all of this BS leads to.

That is why they signed $117B deal with Russia in February...because...unlike the West...they can see that only death and starvation await us.


sometimes working for a man and getting a warm bed and some food is better than letting another man take everything you have.

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And THAT is where NATO and the west were headed.

Only an idiot wouldn't notice that.


Ok...I'm a troll...well we will readdress in six months...see where those gas prices and food prices are then...if too much of our day is not taken by waiting in lines.

Well let’s see what Russian Intelligence says.



Ukrainian Invasion is a Total Failure. With Sanctions Russia has no way out.

Perhaps they should have you explain it to them.

 

[Gabe Lackmann]

Well let’s see what Russian Intelligence says.



Ukrainian Invasion is a Total Failure. With Sanctions Russia has no way out.

Perhaps they should have you explain it to them.

Two weeks and it's a total failure.

How 'shock and awe' of you.

War is not a videogame.

 

[zaangalewa]

Sadly, the Ukrainian people elected the idiot Zelensky and now they are paying the price.
#1. Zelensky over-estimated the Western nations support
#2. He misread Ukraine's importance to the West
#3. He misread Putin's intent to invade.
The western nations were never serious about protecting Ukraine or letting them join NATO
Ukraine was seen as expendable, and the West was just using Zelensky as a tool to irritate Putin.

Interesting that a Nazi ¿and Islamist? like you defends the tyrant Putin and fights the free world who loves the brave, humorful and anything else than desperated hero Zelensky. Astonishing how brave and successful the Ukranians fight for their free country. The only reason why no nation from the West is able to help better is it that a nuclear war which most probably will end all human life on planet Earth - including your own life and the life of everyone who you know and love - is nothing what someone with a clear mind is able to risk; except he is "a Putin" and may force us one day really to have to do so with the only hope to trust in god. But still this is not the only hope and even if the Ukranians will lose this war against Russia - what's more and more anything else than inevitable despite the unbelievable military power of the Russians - this war will never end. One day they will be free again. Tyrants will never win forever. My hope is that everyeone who will have to pay the hightest price for the best of all mankind will be taken from god in his loveful arms.

 

[zaangalewa]

... Poland wanted to send Fighters to Ukraine. In exchange for some F-16’s. Biden said no that will take longer to negotiate. ...

The Ukrainians have to use every chance as little as it might be - but the truth in this case is maybe much more simple and very desillusioning about the criminal government of Poland - which anyway not rules Poland in harmony with the real rules of law and order. This 28 MIG-29 fighters are outdated. The more modern Russian MIGs will easily shoot them down and the Ukrainians will lose in this case many good men and a lot of hope. Very short: Better not to be a hero if to be only a dead hero who sacrificed his life but wan less than nothing!!! The idea of the Polish government had perhaps only been to get F-16 fighters from the USA for their flying scrap metal - while they had the same time the idea to let this fighters start from Germany (from the US-American air base Ramstein) so that the Russians will not take revenge on Poland for this senseless operation.

 

[Baron]

Sadly, the Ukrainian people elected the idiot Zelensky and now they are paying the price.
#1. Zelensky over-estimated the Western nations support
#2. He misread Ukraine's importance to the West
#3. He misread Putin's intent to invade.
The western nations were never serious about protecting Ukraine or letting them join NATO
Ukraine was seen as expendable, and the West was just using Zelensky as a tool to irritate Putin.

But his biggest problem is he's a Jew
Since 1917 Russians, Ukrainians and Belorussian mistrust any Jew

 

[Baron]

Interesting that a Nazi ¿and Islamist? like you defends the tyrant Putin and fights the free world who loves the brave,

You German bitch go to your country of idiots and brainwash your morons.
We love Putin

 

[Colin norris]

Sadly, the Ukrainian people elected the idiot Zelensky and now they are paying the price.

If anyone is an idiot its you for thinking he is an idiot.

#1. Zelensky over-estimated the Western nations support

No he didn't. He knew exactly the support he would get and its happening

#2. He misread Ukraine's importance to the West

Really? They just fought off Russians to form a democracy buy he misread it??? Are you mad?

#3. He misread Putin's intent to invade.

Really? 150000 troops and gear on the border and he thought they were delivering Christmas presents?

The western nations were never serious about protecting Ukraine or letting them join NATO
Ukraine was seen as expendable, and the West was just using Zelensky as a tool to irritate Putin.

Russia and all its little shit arse allies kept vetoing their application. You know nothing. Go to Russia you communist prick.