ZEROcare: Step one to Single Payer Socialism

What works better, pure single payer, Obamacare or our former healthcare system?

I have no issue with my health care. If a citizen wants health care get a job and bust your a$$ like I did and keep your hands out of my pockets.

-Geaux

Of course you ALREADY are paying for them, just in the most expensive way possible- ER care with no preventive care, bankruptcies and blight, people going on welfare to get Medicaid, etc etc etc etc etc. Terminally STUPID- just your style, dupe...
 
What works better, pure single payer, Obamacare or our former healthcare system?

I have no issue with my health care. If a citizen wants health care get a job and bust your a$$ like I did and keep your hands out of my pockets.

-Geaux

Of course you ALREADY are paying for them, just in the most expensive way possible- ER care with no preventive care, bankruptcies and blight, people going on welfare to get Medicaid, etc etc etc etc etc. Terminally STUPID- just your style, dupe...

...and still ---- ZEROcare does NOTHING to fix ANY of that....

Moron!
 
What works better, pure single payer, Obamacare or our former healthcare system?

I have no issue with my health care. If a citizen wants health care get a job and bust your a$$ like I did and keep your hands out of my pockets.

-Geaux

Of course you ALREADY are paying for them, just in the most expensive way possible- ER care with no preventive care, bankruptcies and blight, people going on welfare to get Medicaid, etc etc etc etc etc. Terminally STUPID- just your style, dupe...

I don't give a shit about anyone other than my family. My health care is reasonable and I have no issue with the cost.

-Geaux
 
You're so utterly oblivious, you don't know this is referring to you:

As opposed to the private sector left without oversight wrecking the world and having to be bailed out for 3-4 trillion lol!! Or the most expensive health system by far ranked # 38 ( with no gov't oversight) wrecking our competitiveness and killing 45k people a year....

Your "common sense" is brainwashed idiocy, chump of the greedy rich, and you've got nothing but loudmouth arrogance, superdupe. I give a feq about your 'opinion" lol....
The difference between us is I formed my own opinion. You were handed yours.

Sheep.
Yeah, five years of arguing with the dupes, proving their talking points to be pure propaganda and fear mongering with articles from around the world, from real journalists and experts....they always prove themselves to be arrogant, and incredibly ignorant- like you, Rush Seanbeck. LOL
 
As opposed to the private sector left without oversight wrecking the world and having to be bailed out for 3-4 trillion lol!! Or the most expensive health system by far ranked # 38 ( with no gov't oversight) wrecking our competitiveness and killing 45k people a year....

Your "common sense" is brainwashed idiocy, chump of the greedy rich, and you've got nothing but loudmouth arrogance, superdupe. I give a feq about your 'opinion" lol....
The difference between us is I formed my own opinion. You were handed yours.

Sheep.
Yeah, five years of arguing with the dupes, proving their talking points to be pure propaganda and fear mongering with articles from around the world, from real journalists and experts....they always prove themselves to be arrogant, and incredibly ignorant- like you, Rush Seanbeck. LOL
All you've proven is that you're a retard. If that was your goal, you did a fantastic job. :clap2:
 
I have no issue with my health care. If a citizen wants health care get a job and bust your a$$ like I did and keep your hands out of my pockets.

-Geaux

Of course you ALREADY are paying for them, just in the most expensive way possible- ER care with no preventive care, bankruptcies and blight, people going on welfare to get Medicaid, etc etc etc etc etc. Terminally STUPID- just your style, dupe...

I don't give a shit about anyone other than my family. My health care is reasonable and I have no issue with the cost.

-Geaux

Well, now it'll be GUARANTEED even if something goes wrong, and the cost curve will bend down, and people you know won't be so gd worried about it, and our ECONOMY will be helped.

Typical Pub dupe, ignorant, wants to be with the whites, and "small gov't, family values, and strong defense"- LOL! As if they want to do more than pander to the greedy (idiot) rich...
 
I have no issue with my health care. If a citizen wants health care get a job and bust your a$$ like I did and keep your hands out of my pockets.

-Geaux

Of course you ALREADY are paying for them, just in the most expensive way possible- ER care with no preventive care, bankruptcies and blight, people going on welfare to get Medicaid, etc etc etc etc etc. Terminally STUPID- just your style, dupe...

...and still ---- ZEROcare does NOTHING to fix ANY of that....

Moron!


There ya go- you admit you know NOTHING about O-care but fear mongering BS. In fact, it ENDS all that stuff, you stupid A-HOLE LOL

Fecking Pub dupes- stick with the idiot talking points and insults like Dave. If you try a fact you reveal your total ignorance.

Love you guys! Stop voting so dumb and we'll be fine lol...
 
...and to say we have one of the poorest heathcare systems among developed nations is a total JOKE!!

It's like the phony talking points are more important to you idiots than the healthcare issue!
World Health Organization ranks the US as 37th.
Commonwealth Fund Commission on a High Performance Health System ranks US 7th out of 7.
Reuters reports U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study

MMS: Error
Mirror, Mirror on the Wall: How the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System Compares Internationally, 2010 Update - The Commonwealth Fund
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study | Reuters

Why does most of the world come here for cancer treatment, etc? We seem to fucking rule in innovation and research.
The US has great care if you're rich. In single payer countries you get great care for less.
 
Nope, you and your family get free medicaid (less than 140% of poverty line). TODAY- you're screwed. And it's cheaper for the country than ER care, bankruptcy, welfare and god knows what if somebody gets sick or has an accident..
 
World Health Organization ranks the US as 37th.
Commonwealth Fund Commission on a High Performance Health System ranks US 7th out of 7.
Reuters reports U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study

MMS: Error
Mirror, Mirror on the Wall: How the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System Compares Internationally, 2010 Update - The Commonwealth Fund
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study | Reuters

Why does most of the world come here for cancer treatment, etc? We seem to fucking rule in innovation and research.
The US has great care if you're rich. In single payer countries you get great care for less.
...if you don't die before they get around to treating you. If they decide to treat you at all.
 
World Health Organization ranks the US as 37th.
Commonwealth Fund Commission on a High Performance Health System ranks US 7th out of 7.
Reuters reports U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study

MMS: Error
Mirror, Mirror on the Wall: How the Performance of the U.S. Health Care System Compares Internationally, 2010 Update - The Commonwealth Fund
U.S. scores dead last again in healthcare study | Reuters

Why does most of the world come here for cancer treatment, etc? We seem to fucking rule in innovation and research.
The US has great care if you're rich. In single payer countries you get great care for less.

No. You get slow mediocre care --- and only if the gov't approves it. You just don't know any better because you have never had free market care to compare it to...
 
Nope, you and your family get free medicaid (less than 140% of poverty line). TODAY- you're screwed. And it's cheaper for the country than ER care, bankruptcy, welfare and god knows what if somebody gets sick or has an accident..

If this turns out to be true 3 years from now. I'll admit that I was full of shit and be very happy. ;)
 
Why does most of the world come here for cancer treatment, etc? We seem to fucking rule in innovation and research.
The US has great care if you're rich. In single payer countries you get great care for less.

No. You get slow mediocre care --- and only if the gov't approves it. You just don't know any better because you have never had free market care to compare it to...
Here you have the insurance company deciding if you get care or not, and it costs much more than single payer. BTW, you don't wait long for critical treatment in those countries. It's a favorite talking point for those who prefer the healthcare we currently have.
 
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One way to get the doctors to work within a single payer system is to lower taxes for doctors. Maybe down to 10%? is my suggestion. Or maybe we could Give them special benefits just for doctors, etc. This way we have a system that's far less costly for the little guy, but the doctor benefits and wants to practice. Makes it worth their time.

What do you think?
 
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The US has great care if you're rich. In single payer countries you get great care for less.

No. You get slow mediocre care --- and only if the gov't approves it. You just don't know any better because you have never had free market care to compare it to...
Here you have the insurance company deciding if you get care or not, and it costs much more than single payer. BTW, you don't wait long for critical treatment in those countries. It's a favorite talking point for those who prefer the healthcare we currently have.

That isn't true either. Insurance companies don't decide --- you decide what coverage you want and then PURCHASE it from the insurance company...

As for critical treatment --- true --- but who decides what "critical treatment" is? The patient? (that's how it works with our health care) --- The gov't decides what qualifies for "critical treatment" in commie-care systems!
 
Nope, you and your family get free medicaid (less than 140% of poverty line). TODAY- you're screwed. And it's cheaper for the country than ER care, bankruptcy, welfare and god knows what if somebody gets sick or has an accident..

If this turns out to be true 3 years from now. I'll admit that I was full of shit and be very happy. ;)

It's true starting next year...if you make OVER 140% of the poverty line you're helped to buy insurance, and no one pays more than 8% of their pay for coverage. The law. Congrats, you now know more than 99% of Pub dupes..
 
Nope, you and your family get free medicaid (less than 140% of poverty line). TODAY- you're screwed. And it's cheaper for the country than ER care, bankruptcy, welfare and god knows what if somebody gets sick or has an accident..

If this turns out to be true 3 years from now. I'll admit that I was full of shit and be very happy. ;)

It's true starting next year...if you make OVER 140% of the poverty line you're helped to buy insurance, and no one pays more than 8% of their pay for coverage. The law. Congrats, you now know more than 99% of Pub dupes..

Right - unless you want GOOD insurance coverage --- then you can throw that 8% right out the window...
 

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