DOTR
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- Oct 24, 2016
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Humans have NEVER been civilized. As a species, of course, we have had civility, but as a whole, we are not civilized.
I've seen bad guys do good and the "good guys" do the worst. Nobody is going to convince me that the world isn't a whole lot of grey.
Sorry but not true. Some humans have a history of building beautiful civilizations within which individuals can flourish and advance. Thats civilization. Civilization isnt a synonym for "good". Civilization is good but to say a particular group of humans is civilized is not to say they dont do wrong and to point out they do wrong at time sis not to say they arent civilized.
You are an educated man...remember your Hobbes.