15 Answers to Creationist Nonsense

[Grumblenuts]

You have no conscience and an undeserved ego. Predictable surprises await.

It talks to itself and pats its own back periodically. One gets used to it eventually

 

[Grumblenuts]

Still waiting so I'll ask you once again, [given "Why wouldn't I" ( - be good having been "raised well")..] "Were you raised to be a meanie or something otherwise?"

Because there was a time when people owned slaves and adult men had sex with minors. According to you if you had been raised that way you would have thought that was good.

Tell me otherwise.

You (and I) were not of that time. You're just dodging or simply deluding yourself.
Answer - the - fucking - question !

If you were raised well that means the people raising you discovered good through logic and reason and not what they were taught. Good is independent of man. Prove otherwise.

No, it means they were influenced and informed by both (hopefully). Mental illness being more prevalent than most like to think.

Too late. You lost.

Ah, taking your ball and going home again?
BUBBYE!

 

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Still waiting so I'll ask you once again, [given "Why wouldn't I" ( - be good having been "raised well")..] "Were you raised to be a meanie or something otherwise?"

Because there was a time when people owned slaves and adult men had sex with minors. According to you if you had been raised that way you would have thought that was good.

Tell me otherwise.

You (and I) were not of that time. You're just dodging or simply deluding yourself.
Answer - the - fucking - question !

If you were raised well that means the people raising you discovered good through logic and reason and not what they were taught. Good is independent of man. Prove otherwise.

No, it means they were influenced and informed by both (hopefully). Mental illness being more prevalent than most like to think.

Too late. You lost.

Ah, taking your ball and going home again?
BUBBYE!

Game's over. I won.

 

[abu afak]

Game's over. I won.

You never won anything
You have NO evidence for a god and never even mention your Fake one.
That's how laughable it/he is.

You just Drool up long and short philosophical BS, never Hard EVIDENCE.

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[ding]

Game's over. I won.

You never won anything
You have NO evidence for a god and never even mention your Fake one.
That's how laughable it/he is.

You just Drool up long and short philosophical BS, never Hard EVIDENCE.

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By natural reason man can know God with certainty, on the basis of his works. The physical laws of nature, the biological laws of nature, the moral laws of nature and everything which has unfolded according to those laws since space and time were created from nothing popped into existence ~14 billion years ago say there is evidence of God's existence.

But there is another order of knowledge, which man cannot possibly arrive at by his own powers: the order of divine Revelation. God, who creates and conserves all things by his Word, provides men with constant evidence of himself in created realities. Wishing to open up the way to heavenly salvation - he manifested himself from the very beginning. This revelation was not broken off by the fall. God buoyed hope of salvation by promising redemption. He has never ceased to show his solicitude for the human race. For he wishes to give eternal life to all those who seek salvation by patience in well-doing.

 

[ding]

Game's over. I won.

You never won anything
You have NO evidence for a god and never even mention your Fake one.
That's how laughable it/he is.

You just Drool up long and short philosophical BS, never Hard EVIDENCE.

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Why is it important to you to do good and to be good?

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

And you have not presented any evolutionist who has ever addressed this issue.

What issue? Re-state it. You are all over the place. Be succinct, and precise with your language.

 

[abu afak]

By natural reason man can know God with certainty, on the basis of his works. The physical laws of nature, the biological laws of nature, the moral laws of nature and everything which has unfolded according to those laws since space and time were created from nothing popped into existence ~14 billion years ago say there is evidence of God's existence.

But there is another order of knowledge, which man cannot possibly arrive at by his own powers: the order of divine Revelation. God, who creates and conserves all things by his Word, provides men with constant evidence of himself in created realities. Wishing to open up the way to heavenly salvation - he manifested himself from the very beginning. This revelation was not broken off by the fall. God buoyed hope of salvation by promising redemption. He has never ceased to show his solicitude for the human race. For he wishes to give eternal life to all those who seek salvation by patience in well-doing.

Drooling Brain Damaged Garbage..
The Universe is a MESS. Stars exploding , Galaxies colliding (as we Will with Andromeda.)

99.9999999999999999999999999% of the universe uninhabitable by man, his ostensible ultimate Kweation.
Many creatures like us full of anatomical Vestiges of our Evolutionary forerunners. (Wisdom Teeth, Appendix, Coccyx, etc)

Your a brainwashed Mental Defective whose been hopelessly indoctrinated.


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By natural reason man can know God with certainty, on the basis of his works. The physical laws of nature, the biological laws of nature, the moral laws of nature and everything which has unfolded according to those laws since space and time were created from nothing popped into existence ~14 billion years ago say there is evidence of God's existence.

But there is another order of knowledge, which man cannot possibly arrive at by his own powers: the order of divine Revelation. God, who creates and conserves all things by his Word, provides men with constant evidence of himself in created realities. Wishing to open up the way to heavenly salvation - he manifested himself from the very beginning. This revelation was not broken off by the fall. God buoyed hope of salvation by promising redemption. He has never ceased to show his solicitude for the human race. For he wishes to give eternal life to all those who seek salvation by patience in well-doing.

Drooling Brain Damaged Garbage..
The Universe is a MESS. Stars exploding , Galaxies colliding (as we Will with Andromeda.)

99.9999999999999999999999999% of the universe uninhabitable by man, his ostensible ultimate Kweation.
Many creatures like us full of anatomical Vestiges of our Evolutionary forerunners. (Wisdom Teeth, Appendix, Coccyx, etc)

Your a brainwashed Mental Defective whose been hopelessly indoctrinated.


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We have good reason to believe that we find ourselves in a universe permeated with life, in which life arises inevitably, given enough time, wherever the conditions exist that make it possible. Yet were any one of a number of the physical properties of our universe otherwise - some of them basic, others seemingly trivial, almost accidental - that life, which seems now to be so prevalent, would become impossible, here or anywhere. It takes no great imagination to conceive of other possible universes, each stable and workable in itself, yet lifeless. How is it that, with so many other apparent options, we are in a universe that possesses just that peculiar nexus of properties that breeds beings that know and create.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

that life, which seems now to be so prevalent, would become impossible, here or anywhere

A tautology. Yes, if the laws were different, our universe would be different. This is not an argument for fine tuning of the universe. We are fined tuned to the universe we happened to evolve in 13 billion years after it came into existence, not the other way around.

 

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that life, which seems now to be so prevalent, would become impossible, here or anywhere

A tautology. Yes, if the laws were different, our universe would be different. This is not an argument for fine tuning of the universe. We are fined tuned to the universe we happened to evolve in 13 billion years after it came into existence, not the other way around.

If the purpose of the universe was to create intelligence then a preference in nature for it had to exist. The Laws of Nature are such that the potential for intelligence to exist existed before space and time were created because the laws of nature existed before space and time.

Due to the symmetry of particles and anti-particles, the universe should have been created with equal amounts of particles and anti-particles through the quantum tunneling event which led to the creation of space and time and left a universe filled only with radiation.

Instead for every 1,000,000,000 anti particles there existed 1,000,000,001 particles. So that when all the mutual annihilation had happened, there remained over that one particle per billion, and that now constitutes all the matter in the universe -- all the galaxies, the stars and planets, and of course all life.

That's some mighty fine tuning.

 

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that life, which seems now to be so prevalent, would become impossible, here or anywhere

A tautology. Yes, if the laws were different, our universe would be different. This is not an argument for fine tuning of the universe. We are fined tuned to the universe we happened to evolve in 13 billion years after it came into existence, not the other way around.

If the purpose of the universe was to create intelligence then a preference in nature for it had to exist. The Laws of Nature are such that the potential for intelligence to exist existed before space and time were created because the laws of nature existed before space and time.

Both protons and neutrons have masses almost two thousand times the mass of an electron so virtually the whole mass of an atom is in its nucleus. Hence the atom is hardly disturbed at all by the motions of its electrons, and an atom can hold its position in a molecule, and molecules their positions in larger structures. Only that circumstance permits molecules to hold their shapes, and solids to exist.

If on the contrary the protons and neutrons were closer in mass to the electrons, whether light or heavy, then the motions of the electrons would be reflected in reciprocal motions by the others. All structures composed of such atoms would be fluid; in such a universe nothing would stay put. There could not be the fitting together of molecular shapes that permits not only crystals to form, but living organisms.

That's some mighty fine tuning.

 

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that life, which seems now to be so prevalent, would become impossible, here or anywhere

A tautology. Yes, if the laws were different, our universe would be different. This is not an argument for fine tuning of the universe. We are fined tuned to the universe we happened to evolve in 13 billion years after it came into existence, not the other way around.

If the purpose of the universe was to create intelligence then a preference in nature for it had to exist. The Laws of Nature are such that the potential for intelligence to exist existed before space and time were created because the laws of nature existed before space and time.

How does it come about that elementary particles so altogether different otherwise as the proton and electron possess the same numerical charge?

How is it that the proton is exactly as plus-charged as the electron is minus-charged?

Any difference at all in electric charge would be enough to make all the matter in the universe charged; plus or minus. Since like charges repel one another, all the matter in the universe would repel all the other matter and overwhelm the forces of gravitation that bring matter together. There would be no stars, no galaxies -- and of course no life.

That's some mighty fine tuning.

 

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To summarize, if the proton and neutron did not have enormously greater mass than the electron, all matter would be fluid; and if the proton and electron did not possess exactly the same electric charge, no matter would aggregate. These are primary conditions for the existence of life in the universe.

That's some mighty fine tuning.

 

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Of the 92 natural elements, ninety-nine percent of the living matter we know is composed of just four: hydrogen (H), oxygen (O), nitrogen (N), and carbon (C). These are the lightest elements that achieve stable electronic configurations (i.e., those mimicking the inert gases) by gaining respectively one, two, three, and four electrons. Gaining electrons, in the sense of sharing them with other atoms, is the mechanism of forming chemical bonds, hence molecules. The lightest elements make not only the tightest bonds, hence the most stable molecules, but introduce a unique property crucial for life: of all the natural elements, only oxygen, nitrogen and carbon regularly form double and triple bonds with one another, so saturating all their tendencies to combine further.

These four elements, Hydrogen, carbon, oxygen and nitrogen, also provide an example of the astonishing togetherness of our universe. They make up the “organic” molecules that constitute living organisms on a planet, and the nuclei of these same elements interact to generate the light of its star. Then the organisms on the planet come to depend wholly on that starlight, as they must if life is to persist. So it is that all life on the Earth runs on sunlight.

The structure of matter is hardwired to produce life. That's some mighty fine tuning.

 

[Grumblenuts]

That's a lot of very crude circular reasoning amounting to bupkis.

 

[ding]

That's a lot of very crude circular reasoning amounting to bupkis.

How so?

 

[ding]

That's a lot of very crude circular reasoning amounting to bupkis.

Speaking of circular reasoning I am reminded of yours.

Do you believe it is wrong to buy and sell people? And is that just a personal opinion or is there a logical reason for that belief?

 

[ding]

That's a lot of very crude circular reasoning amounting to bupkis.

And you can reply directly to my posts. You don't have to be afraid of me. I don't bite.

 

[Grumblenuts]

That's a lot of very crude circular reasoning amounting to bupkis.

How so?

For example:

But there is another order of knowledge, which man cannot possibly arrive at by his own powers: the order of divine Revelation. God, who creates and conserves all things by his Word, provides men with constant evidence of himself in created realities. Wishing to open up the way to heavenly salvation - he manifested himself from the very beginning. This revelation was not broken off by the fall. God buoyed hope of salvation by promising redemption. He has never ceased to show his solicitude for the human race. For he wishes to give eternal life to all those who seek salvation by patience in well-doing.

If your god really wanted "man" to appreciate his alleged presence, plans, and good will toward us.. he sure chose incredibly roundabout and risky ways of doing it. Nothing apparent stopping him from dropping by to give us weekly updates on his doings, how he feels regarding this COVID-19 pandemic, and so forth. But, y'know, everyone's entitled to their delusions. You wanna spend the balance of your short existence here making up excuses and hoping not to just be worm food when you die, be my guest. I think I've got better things to do.