1rst Putin Airstrike Kills 36 Syrians, Lots of Children and 0 ISIS

Told you so.
bbc.com/news/world/-middle-east-34399164
Russia will not go after ISIS unless or until they become a direct threat to Assad. They will concentrate on killing the enemies of ISIS because they are also enemies of Assad. Plus innocents. Russia will kill lots of innocents as proven with today's attack.
The Syrian rebels are ISIS.
No they aren't. How can you be that misinformed?
Where is the evidence bro =)
Camp does have a point. There is a difference between the rebels and ISIS. While Russia is working for Iran in Syria we are working for Saudi Arabia. In a practical sense. I doubt there is any written contract, although there might be. We are in Syria to help the Sunni rebels overthrow Assad. We are not there to defeat ISIS.
There are always differences.....but these creeps always end up working together. They all are Muslims, with their tribal alliences, but when it comes down to fighting a common foe....they stick together. Not to mention the fact that trading assets for weapons goes on constantly among these assholes. Most of the weapons ISIS uses are made in America. The rest are stolen....

Meaning just about all of them are stolen.
 
Told you so.
bbc.com/news/world/-middle-east-34399164
Russia will not go after ISIS unless or until they become a direct threat to Assad. They will concentrate on killing the enemies of ISIS because they are also enemies of Assad. Plus innocents. Russia will kill lots of innocents as proven with today's attack.
The Syrian rebels are ISIS.
No they aren't. How can you be that misinformed?
Where is the evidence bro =)
Camp does have a point. There is a difference between the rebels and ISIS. While Russia is working for Iran in Syria we are working for Saudi Arabia. In a practical sense. I doubt there is any written contract, although there might be. We are in Syria to help the Sunni rebels overthrow Assad. We are not there to defeat ISIS.
What you are giving in relation to who and what we are doing is an opinion and open for debate. We, along with others, including the Saudi's, Jordanians and Arab states have provided all kinds of various support for fighting the civil war between Assad and the Syrian population, or rebels. At the same time, Russia has been providing support for Assad, who is still recognized as representing the legitimate ruler of the Syrian government. The fight with ISIS/ISIL/IS is a separate issue.
The forces being attacked by Russia are not the forces that swept through Syria and Iraq in a binge of be-headings, murders, kidnappings of young girls for sex slaves, etc. They are not part of the Islamic State that is made up of many non Syrian's. Some of them are terror groups, but some are not.
If Russia wants to come to the aid of the Syrian government under Assad and wage war on his enemies, they have the legal right to do so. Unless and until the international community disavows the legitimacy of the Assad government, the Russian's are within their rights to go after whoever they want in coordination with Syria. What they don't have a right to do is lie about targeting ISIS to gain global public support for taking on ISIS when they are not doing so. They can not expect support for killing civilians in collateral damage and targeting rebels who are fighting for democracy or freedom from totalitarian rule while they claim they are taking on the ISIS monsters the world hates and detest. Russia is attempting to use the cover of ISIS to wage a war against the civilian side of a civil war that is fighting a long standing corrupt totalitarian dictator who has a long history of supporting global terrorism, producing chemical weapons and committing crimes against humanity. That is who the Russians are protecting. Their actions have nothing to do with defeating ISIS, at least not yet and little indication they will do anything more than talk about it.
 
Told you so.
bbc.com/news/world/-middle-east-34399164
Russia will not go after ISIS unless or until they become a direct threat to Assad. They will concentrate on killing the enemies of ISIS because they are also enemies of Assad. Plus innocents. Russia will kill lots of innocents as proven with today's attack.
The Syrian rebels are ISIS.
No they aren't. How can you be that misinformed?
Where is the evidence bro =)
Camp does have a point. There is a difference between the rebels and ISIS. While Russia is working for Iran in Syria we are working for Saudi Arabia. In a practical sense. I doubt there is any written contract, although there might be. We are in Syria to help the Sunni rebels overthrow Assad. We are not there to defeat ISIS.
There are always differences.....but these creeps always end up working together. They all are Muslims, with their tribal alliences, but when it comes down to fighting a common foe....they stick together. Not to mention the fact that trading assets for weapons goes on constantly among these assholes. Most of the weapons ISIS uses are made in America. The rest are stolen....

Meaning just about all of them are stolen.
Very much agree. As fights turn to battles turn to wars one much look at the common denomination the war will be fought on. This is a Shia/Sunni war. A paragraph from the NYT about the recent Taliban offensive sums up the entire U.S. effort since the overthrow of Saddam.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/asia/taliban-kunduz-afghanistan.html
But the Taliban broke the stalemate early Monday, when hundreds of their fighters marched into Kunduz, a city of 300,000 people not far from the border with Tajikistan. Most of the city’s defenders quickly retreated or disappeared in a defeat that the Afghan government has since struggled to explain.​
 
The Syrian rebels are ISIS.
No they aren't. How can you be that misinformed?
Where is the evidence bro =)
Camp does have a point. There is a difference between the rebels and ISIS. While Russia is working for Iran in Syria we are working for Saudi Arabia. In a practical sense. I doubt there is any written contract, although there might be. We are in Syria to help the Sunni rebels overthrow Assad. We are not there to defeat ISIS.
There are always differences.....but these creeps always end up working together. They all are Muslims, with their tribal alliences, but when it comes down to fighting a common foe....they stick together. Not to mention the fact that trading assets for weapons goes on constantly among these assholes. Most of the weapons ISIS uses are made in America. The rest are stolen....

Meaning just about all of them are stolen.
Very much agree. As fights turn to battles turn to wars one much look at the common denomination the war will be fought on. This is a Shia/Sunni war. A paragraph from the NYT about the recent Taliban offensive sums up the entire U.S. effort since the overthrow of Saddam.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/asia/taliban-kunduz-afghanistan.html
But the Taliban broke the stalemate early Monday, when hundreds of their fighters marched into Kunduz, a city of 300,000 people not far from the border with Tajikistan. Most of the city’s defenders quickly retreated or disappeared in a defeat that the Afghan government has since struggled to explain.​
Latest news indicate the Afghans have kicked the Taliban's ass and forced them out of Kunduz. The Taliban are however taking control of smaller villages and areas as they are fleeing the Afghan forces. Back and forth, whoever can get the most bullets to the battlefield the quickest wins for a little while. When they run low on bullets, both sides run until they can get some more. Basic stuff.
 
Told you so.
bbc.com/news/world/-middle-east-34399164
Russia will not go after ISIS unless or until they become a direct threat to Assad. They will concentrate on killing the enemies of ISIS because they are also enemies of Assad. Plus innocents. Russia will kill lots of innocents as proven with today's attack.
The Syrian rebels are ISIS.
No they aren't. How can you be that misinformed?
Where is the evidence bro =)
Camp does have a point. There is a difference between the rebels and ISIS. While Russia is working for Iran in Syria we are working for Saudi Arabia. In a practical sense. I doubt there is any written contract, although there might be. We are in Syria to help the Sunni rebels overthrow Assad. We are not there to defeat ISIS.
What you are giving in relation to who and what we are doing is an opinion and open for debate. We, along with others, including the Saudi's, Jordanians and Arab states have provided all kinds of various support for fighting the civil war between Assad and the Syrian population, or rebels. At the same time, Russia has been providing support for Assad, who is still recognized as representing the legitimate ruler of the Syrian government. The fight with ISIS/ISIL/IS is a separate issue.
The forces being attacked by Russia are not the forces that swept through Syria and Iraq in a binge of be-headings, murders, kidnappings of young girls for sex slaves, etc. They are not part of the Islamic State that is made up of many non Syrian's. Some of them are terror groups, but some are not.
If Russia wants to come to the aid of the Syrian government under Assad and wage war on his enemies, they have the legal right to do so. Unless and until the international community disavows the legitimacy of the Assad government, the Russian's are within their rights to go after whoever they want in coordination with Syria. What they don't have a right to do is lie about targeting ISIS to gain global public support for taking on ISIS when they are not doing so. They can not expect support for killing civilians in collateral damage and targeting rebels who are fighting for democracy or freedom from totalitarian rule while they claim they are taking on the ISIS monsters the world hates and detest. Russia is attempting to use the cover of ISIS to wage a war against the civilian side of a civil war that is fighting a long standing corrupt totalitarian dictator who has a long history of supporting global terrorism, producing chemical weapons and committing crimes against humanity. That is who the Russians are protecting. Their actions have nothing to do with defeating ISIS, at least not yet and little indication they will do anything more than talk about it.
America is fighting in a Sunni coalition against the Assad government and using ISIS as a cover. And if one blows away all chaff from you post you admit as much. This is not about ISIS.
 
The Syrian rebels are ISIS.
No they aren't. How can you be that misinformed?
Where is the evidence bro =)
Camp does have a point. There is a difference between the rebels and ISIS. While Russia is working for Iran in Syria we are working for Saudi Arabia. In a practical sense. I doubt there is any written contract, although there might be. We are in Syria to help the Sunni rebels overthrow Assad. We are not there to defeat ISIS.
There are always differences.....but these creeps always end up working together. They all are Muslims, with their tribal alliences, but when it comes down to fighting a common foe....they stick together. Not to mention the fact that trading assets for weapons goes on constantly among these assholes. Most of the weapons ISIS uses are made in America. The rest are stolen....

Meaning just about all of them are stolen.
Very much agree. As fights turn to battles turn to wars one much look at the common denomination the war will be fought on. This is a Shia/Sunni war. A paragraph from the NYT about the recent Taliban offensive sums up the entire U.S. effort since the overthrow of Saddam.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/asia/taliban-kunduz-afghanistan.html
But the Taliban broke the stalemate early Monday, when hundreds of their fighters marched into Kunduz, a city of 300,000 people not far from the border with Tajikistan. Most of the city’s defenders quickly retreated or disappeared in a defeat that the Afghan government has since struggled to explain.​
Much of what I learned from working with Arabs is they have a lousy organizational structure. Most of the time they're poorly trained. ISIS seems to be different. Years of training under Republican Guard officers made them pretty efficient....which is rare. They usually talk a big game , but drop their weapons and run in the face of a formidable opponent.....which is what Saddam' s vaunted Republican Guard did both times we faced them.

I wonder about these reports. Putin said they were claiming civilian casualties before his aircraft took off for their missions. Also, they claim they hit dozens of Syrian Rebel positions.....but can only account for 4 or 5 trained rebels ready to fight after spending $160 million training them.

WTF???
 
No they aren't. How can you be that misinformed?
Where is the evidence bro =)
Camp does have a point. There is a difference between the rebels and ISIS. While Russia is working for Iran in Syria we are working for Saudi Arabia. In a practical sense. I doubt there is any written contract, although there might be. We are in Syria to help the Sunni rebels overthrow Assad. We are not there to defeat ISIS.
There are always differences.....but these creeps always end up working together. They all are Muslims, with their tribal alliences, but when it comes down to fighting a common foe....they stick together. Not to mention the fact that trading assets for weapons goes on constantly among these assholes. Most of the weapons ISIS uses are made in America. The rest are stolen....

Meaning just about all of them are stolen.
Very much agree. As fights turn to battles turn to wars one much look at the common denomination the war will be fought on. This is a Shia/Sunni war. A paragraph from the NYT about the recent Taliban offensive sums up the entire U.S. effort since the overthrow of Saddam.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/asia/taliban-kunduz-afghanistan.html
But the Taliban broke the stalemate early Monday, when hundreds of their fighters marched into Kunduz, a city of 300,000 people not far from the border with Tajikistan. Most of the city’s defenders quickly retreated or disappeared in a defeat that the Afghan government has since struggled to explain.​
Latest news indicate the Afghans have kicked the Taliban's ass and forced them out of Kunduz. The Taliban are however taking control of smaller villages and areas as they are fleeing the Afghan forces. Back and forth, whoever can get the most bullets to the battlefield the quickest wins for a little while. When they run low on bullets, both sides run until they can get some more. Basic stuff.
Someone claimed you are not American. You definitely are. Your arrogance gives you away.
Three-day occupation of Kunduz shows our strength says Taliban leader | Toronto Star
KABUL — The new leader of the Afghan Taliban said on Friday that the capture of the northern city of Kunduz was a “symbolic victory” that showed the strength of the insurgency — even though the Taliban pulled out of the city after three days.

Still, the three-day occupation of Kunduz was “a historic event,” which was “celebrated by the ordinary people of the city,” claimed Mullah Akhtar Mansoor.

Mansoor, who spoke to The Associated Press by telephone from an unknown location, was appointed the Taliban leader in August, after revelations that the group’s founder, Mullah Muhammad Omar, had died more than two years ago.
...
The fall and three-day occupation of Kunduz — an important city of 300,000 residents that lies on a strategic road to the border with Tajikistan — was a huge boost for Mansoor whose leadership of the Taliban had been questioned from the start.

At the same time, it was a humbling defeat for Afghan President Ashraf Ghani and raised questions over whether the U.S.-trained military was capable of defending the country now that most coalition forces have withdrawn.


At the same time, it was a humbling defeat for Afghan President Ashraf Ghani and raised questions over whether the U.S.-trained military was capable of defending the country now that most coalition forces have withdrawn.
...​

('Opinions' are everything in this world.)
 
The Syrian rebels are ISIS.
No they aren't. How can you be that misinformed?
Where is the evidence bro =)
Camp does have a point. There is a difference between the rebels and ISIS. While Russia is working for Iran in Syria we are working for Saudi Arabia. In a practical sense. I doubt there is any written contract, although there might be. We are in Syria to help the Sunni rebels overthrow Assad. We are not there to defeat ISIS.
What you are giving in relation to who and what we are doing is an opinion and open for debate. We, along with others, including the Saudi's, Jordanians and Arab states have provided all kinds of various support for fighting the civil war between Assad and the Syrian population, or rebels. At the same time, Russia has been providing support for Assad, who is still recognized as representing the legitimate ruler of the Syrian government. The fight with ISIS/ISIL/IS is a separate issue.
The forces being attacked by Russia are not the forces that swept through Syria and Iraq in a binge of be-headings, murders, kidnappings of young girls for sex slaves, etc. They are not part of the Islamic State that is made up of many non Syrian's. Some of them are terror groups, but some are not.
If Russia wants to come to the aid of the Syrian government under Assad and wage war on his enemies, they have the legal right to do so. Unless and until the international community disavows the legitimacy of the Assad government, the Russian's are within their rights to go after whoever they want in coordination with Syria. What they don't have a right to do is lie about targeting ISIS to gain global public support for taking on ISIS when they are not doing so. They can not expect support for killing civilians in collateral damage and targeting rebels who are fighting for democracy or freedom from totalitarian rule while they claim they are taking on the ISIS monsters the world hates and detest. Russia is attempting to use the cover of ISIS to wage a war against the civilian side of a civil war that is fighting a long standing corrupt totalitarian dictator who has a long history of supporting global terrorism, producing chemical weapons and committing crimes against humanity. That is who the Russians are protecting. Their actions have nothing to do with defeating ISIS, at least not yet and little indication they will do anything more than talk about it.
America is fighting in a Sunni coalition against the Assad government and using ISIS as a cover. And if one blows away all chaff from you post you admit as much. This is not about ISIS.
America and the coalition are not bombing Assad or the Syrian military. The US led coalition is only bombing ISIS and protecting Iraqi interest. ISIS invaded Iraq. They use Syria as a sanctuary, and claim large portions of it as part of their territory. If ISIS left Iraq territory there would be no reason for the US and the coalition to use air strikes in Syria and the strikes would stop. The Kurds in Iraq are part of Iraq and under attack.Their territory is occupied by ISIS. There is not one example of a US or coalition strike against Assad or his government forces. Supplying equipment is not the same as "fighting" when assets from both sides are in active combat. That is called supporting from the sidelines, not fighting. Words make a difference.
 
No they aren't. How can you be that misinformed?
Where is the evidence bro =)
Camp does have a point. There is a difference between the rebels and ISIS. While Russia is working for Iran in Syria we are working for Saudi Arabia. In a practical sense. I doubt there is any written contract, although there might be. We are in Syria to help the Sunni rebels overthrow Assad. We are not there to defeat ISIS.
There are always differences.....but these creeps always end up working together. They all are Muslims, with their tribal alliences, but when it comes down to fighting a common foe....they stick together. Not to mention the fact that trading assets for weapons goes on constantly among these assholes. Most of the weapons ISIS uses are made in America. The rest are stolen....

Meaning just about all of them are stolen.
Very much agree. As fights turn to battles turn to wars one much look at the common denomination the war will be fought on. This is a Shia/Sunni war. A paragraph from the NYT about the recent Taliban offensive sums up the entire U.S. effort since the overthrow of Saddam.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/03/world/asia/taliban-kunduz-afghanistan.html
But the Taliban broke the stalemate early Monday, when hundreds of their fighters marched into Kunduz, a city of 300,000 people not far from the border with Tajikistan. Most of the city’s defenders quickly retreated or disappeared in a defeat that the Afghan government has since struggled to explain.​
Much of what I learned from working with Arabs is they have a lousy organizational structure. Most of the time they're poorly trained. ISIS seems to be different. Years of training under Republican Guard officers made them pretty efficient....which is rare. They usually talk a big game , but drop their weapons and run in the face of a formidable opponent.....which is what Saddam' s vaunted Republican Guard did both times we faced them.

I wonder about these reports. Putin said they were claiming civilian casualties before his aircraft took off for their missions. Also, they claim they hit dozens of Syrian Rebel positions.....but can only account for 4 or 5 trained rebels ready to fight after spending $160 million training them.

WTF???
I am afraid that truth of Arab fighters is quickly becoming a thing of the past. The way things are going pretty soon the majority of the Arab fighters in the Middle East will be highly skilled killers. Militias sure aren't what they used to be.
 
No they aren't. How can you be that misinformed?
Where is the evidence bro =)
Camp does have a point. There is a difference between the rebels and ISIS. While Russia is working for Iran in Syria we are working for Saudi Arabia. In a practical sense. I doubt there is any written contract, although there might be. We are in Syria to help the Sunni rebels overthrow Assad. We are not there to defeat ISIS.
What you are giving in relation to who and what we are doing is an opinion and open for debate. We, along with others, including the Saudi's, Jordanians and Arab states have provided all kinds of various support for fighting the civil war between Assad and the Syrian population, or rebels. At the same time, Russia has been providing support for Assad, who is still recognized as representing the legitimate ruler of the Syrian government. The fight with ISIS/ISIL/IS is a separate issue.
The forces being attacked by Russia are not the forces that swept through Syria and Iraq in a binge of be-headings, murders, kidnappings of young girls for sex slaves, etc. They are not part of the Islamic State that is made up of many non Syrian's. Some of them are terror groups, but some are not.
If Russia wants to come to the aid of the Syrian government under Assad and wage war on his enemies, they have the legal right to do so. Unless and until the international community disavows the legitimacy of the Assad government, the Russian's are within their rights to go after whoever they want in coordination with Syria. What they don't have a right to do is lie about targeting ISIS to gain global public support for taking on ISIS when they are not doing so. They can not expect support for killing civilians in collateral damage and targeting rebels who are fighting for democracy or freedom from totalitarian rule while they claim they are taking on the ISIS monsters the world hates and detest. Russia is attempting to use the cover of ISIS to wage a war against the civilian side of a civil war that is fighting a long standing corrupt totalitarian dictator who has a long history of supporting global terrorism, producing chemical weapons and committing crimes against humanity. That is who the Russians are protecting. Their actions have nothing to do with defeating ISIS, at least not yet and little indication they will do anything more than talk about it.
America is fighting in a Sunni coalition against the Assad government and using ISIS as a cover. And if one blows away all chaff from you post you admit as much. This is not about ISIS.
America and the coalition are not bombing Assad or the Syrian military. The US led coalition is only bombing ISIS and protecting Iraqi interest. ISIS invaded Iraq. They use Syria as a sanctuary, and claim large portions of it as part of their territory. If ISIS left Iraq territory there would be no reason for the US and the coalition to use air strikes in Syria and the strikes would stop. The Kurds in Iraq are part of Iraq and under attack.Their territory is occupied by ISIS. There is not one example of a US or coalition strike against Assad or his government forces. Supplying equipment is not the same as "fighting" when assets from both sides are in active combat. That is called supporting from the sidelines, not fighting. Words make a difference.
Wow. You actually brought up the Kurds. Do you really want to go there?
 
No they aren't. How can you be that misinformed?
Where is the evidence bro =)
Camp does have a point. There is a difference between the rebels and ISIS. While Russia is working for Iran in Syria we are working for Saudi Arabia. In a practical sense. I doubt there is any written contract, although there might be. We are in Syria to help the Sunni rebels overthrow Assad. We are not there to defeat ISIS.
What you are giving in relation to who and what we are doing is an opinion and open for debate. We, along with others, including the Saudi's, Jordanians and Arab states have provided all kinds of various support for fighting the civil war between Assad and the Syrian population, or rebels. At the same time, Russia has been providing support for Assad, who is still recognized as representing the legitimate ruler of the Syrian government. The fight with ISIS/ISIL/IS is a separate issue.
The forces being attacked by Russia are not the forces that swept through Syria and Iraq in a binge of be-headings, murders, kidnappings of young girls for sex slaves, etc. They are not part of the Islamic State that is made up of many non Syrian's. Some of them are terror groups, but some are not.
If Russia wants to come to the aid of the Syrian government under Assad and wage war on his enemies, they have the legal right to do so. Unless and until the international community disavows the legitimacy of the Assad government, the Russian's are within their rights to go after whoever they want in coordination with Syria. What they don't have a right to do is lie about targeting ISIS to gain global public support for taking on ISIS when they are not doing so. They can not expect support for killing civilians in collateral damage and targeting rebels who are fighting for democracy or freedom from totalitarian rule while they claim they are taking on the ISIS monsters the world hates and detest. Russia is attempting to use the cover of ISIS to wage a war against the civilian side of a civil war that is fighting a long standing corrupt totalitarian dictator who has a long history of supporting global terrorism, producing chemical weapons and committing crimes against humanity. That is who the Russians are protecting. Their actions have nothing to do with defeating ISIS, at least not yet and little indication they will do anything more than talk about it.
America is fighting in a Sunni coalition against the Assad government and using ISIS as a cover. And if one blows away all chaff from you post you admit as much. This is not about ISIS.
America and the coalition are not bombing Assad or the Syrian military. The US led coalition is only bombing ISIS and protecting Iraqi interest. ISIS invaded Iraq. They use Syria as a sanctuary, and claim large portions of it as part of their territory. If ISIS left Iraq territory there would be no reason for the US and the coalition to use air strikes in Syria and the strikes would stop. The Kurds in Iraq are part of Iraq and under attack.Their territory is occupied by ISIS. There is not one example of a US or coalition strike against Assad or his government forces. Supplying equipment is not the same as "fighting" when assets from both sides are in active combat. That is called supporting from the sidelines, not fighting. Words make a difference.
Listening to you speak reminds me of watching John Kerry yesterday. I wonder if Obama tells him everything. Susan Rice sure was clueless as to what as going on when that shit with Benghazi went down.
 
Where is the evidence bro =)
Camp does have a point. There is a difference between the rebels and ISIS. While Russia is working for Iran in Syria we are working for Saudi Arabia. In a practical sense. I doubt there is any written contract, although there might be. We are in Syria to help the Sunni rebels overthrow Assad. We are not there to defeat ISIS.
What you are giving in relation to who and what we are doing is an opinion and open for debate. We, along with others, including the Saudi's, Jordanians and Arab states have provided all kinds of various support for fighting the civil war between Assad and the Syrian population, or rebels. At the same time, Russia has been providing support for Assad, who is still recognized as representing the legitimate ruler of the Syrian government. The fight with ISIS/ISIL/IS is a separate issue.
The forces being attacked by Russia are not the forces that swept through Syria and Iraq in a binge of be-headings, murders, kidnappings of young girls for sex slaves, etc. They are not part of the Islamic State that is made up of many non Syrian's. Some of them are terror groups, but some are not.
If Russia wants to come to the aid of the Syrian government under Assad and wage war on his enemies, they have the legal right to do so. Unless and until the international community disavows the legitimacy of the Assad government, the Russian's are within their rights to go after whoever they want in coordination with Syria. What they don't have a right to do is lie about targeting ISIS to gain global public support for taking on ISIS when they are not doing so. They can not expect support for killing civilians in collateral damage and targeting rebels who are fighting for democracy or freedom from totalitarian rule while they claim they are taking on the ISIS monsters the world hates and detest. Russia is attempting to use the cover of ISIS to wage a war against the civilian side of a civil war that is fighting a long standing corrupt totalitarian dictator who has a long history of supporting global terrorism, producing chemical weapons and committing crimes against humanity. That is who the Russians are protecting. Their actions have nothing to do with defeating ISIS, at least not yet and little indication they will do anything more than talk about it.
America is fighting in a Sunni coalition against the Assad government and using ISIS as a cover. And if one blows away all chaff from you post you admit as much. This is not about ISIS.
America and the coalition are not bombing Assad or the Syrian military. The US led coalition is only bombing ISIS and protecting Iraqi interest. ISIS invaded Iraq. They use Syria as a sanctuary, and claim large portions of it as part of their territory. If ISIS left Iraq territory there would be no reason for the US and the coalition to use air strikes in Syria and the strikes would stop. The Kurds in Iraq are part of Iraq and under attack.Their territory is occupied by ISIS. There is not one example of a US or coalition strike against Assad or his government forces. Supplying equipment is not the same as "fighting" when assets from both sides are in active combat. That is called supporting from the sidelines, not fighting. Words make a difference.
Listening to you speak reminds me of watching John Kerry yesterday. I wonder if Obama tells him everything. Susan Rice sure was clueless as to what as going on when that shit with Benghazi went down.
I have not heard Kerry talk lately. I have been listening to Putin.
 

ISIS is a manifestation of Islam. Putin's assertion that ISIS is a band of mercenaries is self-serving, but no more than ours is.


Putin doesn't distinguish. He knows there are no 'moderates' in Syria. CIA connected anti-Assad rebels turn most of their weapons over to Al-Qaeda which end up in the hands of Isis.
Hope I clarified things..........
 

ISIS is a manifestation of Islam. Putin's assertion that ISIS is a band of mercenaries is self-serving, but no more than ours is.


Putin doesn't distinguish. He knows there are no 'moderates' in Syria. CIA connected anti-Assad rebels turn most of their weapons over to Al-Qaeda which end up in the hands of Isis.
Hope I clarified things..........

If you knew what you were talking about and could show some evidence that you are not just spouting off talking point propaganda, ya, that might clarify things. As it stands, not so much.
 

ISIS is a manifestation of Islam. Putin's assertion that ISIS is a band of mercenaries is self-serving, but no more than ours is.


Putin doesn't distinguish. He knows there are no 'moderates' in Syria. CIA connected anti-Assad rebels turn most of their weapons over to Al-Qaeda which end up in the hands of Isis.
Hope I clarified things..........

If you knew what you were talking about and could show some evidence that you are not just spouting off talking point propaganda, ya, that might clarify things. As it stands, not so much.


Why should I clarify to someone who still believes Russia is Soviet and the KGB is still called the KGB and is alive and well. I don't like to waste my time on idjits still fighting 'Cold War 1.0'. Check with John Mcshitstain, or any other neocon caught in a time-warp ( if you have any furthur questions......they'll tell you what you want to hear).
 
Is anyone listening to obama muse about Syria? He hasn't got a clue. Not an iota of thought. He has no idea he's lost and the situation has moved miles beyond him.
 
Is anyone listening to obama muse about Syria? He hasn't got a clue. Not an iota of thought. He has no idea he's lost and the situation has moved miles beyond him.

Only because Russia is now driving the car in the ME, and Putin is squeezing the balls of any passengers who've not bailed out yet.
 

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